i didnt know hell was stable...
| QUOTE (adil786 @ Jun 25 2004, 11:26 AM) |
i didnt know hell was stable... |
as far as i know hell hasn't frozen over yet so it must be adequately stable....
| QUOTE (Angerwound @ Jun 25 2004, 04:46 PM) |
as far as i know hell hasn't frozen over yet so it must be adequately stable.... |
wooooooooohooooooooooo
I meant if somehow you mess up the fonts or break your dashboard in UDE or some friekish situation, you can be in alot of trouble, unless you have a backup like a gamesave exploit.
That or if you lose the clock and its screwed well, hotswap time.
only a n00b wouldnt....
i for got to copy the bios folder to E when i installed UDE oh yeah
had to get my MA from my buddy and cross my fingers i had a savegame in there
| QUOTE (RiceCake @ Jun 25 2004, 04:11 PM) |
| That or if you lose the clock and its screwed well, hotswap time. |
wait, i didn't know the ude suffers from the clock problem. it doesn't right? please someone tell me it doesn't!
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Jun 25 2004, 06:42 PM) |
| wait, i didn't know the ude suffers from the clock problem. it doesn't right? please someone tell me it doesn't! |
(I knew RiceCake's post would cause alarm.)
No, a correctly installed UDE doesn't suffer from the clock loop!.
RiceCake is referring to an exceptional set of circumstances that would need to occur. And even if they did occur, you could still get out of the situation with a hot swap.
It doesn't.
Only clock problem would be if you used one of the first generations of rmenhal's font and somehow messed up your setup (dashboard, PBL). If the clock was not set you could not even boot a retail game to use a game save hack.
The latest update fonts do however set the time (Bigfonts style) if the clock is unset on boot.
Anyway, I consider the dualboot another usefull backdoor - like a game save hack. Let your tray-open xbe by an ftp enabled dashboard that's not used in the regular (tray-closed) setup. That way if you screw up PBL or your default dash, you just boot with the tray open. Ftp in and fix it! Only way this could go wrong is if the update.xbe or the bert-ate-ernie font gets corrupted.
Yeah it suffers no clock issues.
What I meant was if your UDE installation got corrupt (So that it couldn't boot right, went to say, error 21) and the clock went dead as it was like this, the Xbox would always force itself to boot the dashboard, oops! Now you can't boot anything but the corrupt dashboard, and would mean its hotswap time.
I am using bigfonts from february this year and still using same exploit. faced clock loop only two or three times. I would like to test the UDE but I am too lazy and bigfonts is workings as good as modchip for me.
| QUOTE (PedrosPad @ Jun 25 2004, 06:45 PM) |
| RiceCake is referring to an exceptional set of circumstances that would need to occur. And even if they did occur, you could still get out of the situation with a hot swap. |
Hehe yeah I did that a few days ago and everything is working again

It took me some days to get everything right but it was worth it

ps : Don't make fun of my ''stable as hell'' line, I've been ther (hell) and it's fucking stable! I'm almost 100% sure the hell is something like The Matrix but running Linux instead of Windows ME (Matrix Edition) like in the ''real matrix'. You'll hear more about it when I'm finished with my research.
It certainley is a nice place to go I've visited the first 6 levels and decided to stay in Sixth Level of Hell( - The City of Dis). Wanna know which level is the best for you? Take the test for yourself
here!.
Belive me if something is stable it's hell himself/herself.
I apparently belong in the eighth level of hell?
Wait...is being a pimp a bad thing?
Lol.
to avoid said catastrophic failure, could an xbe on the dvd drive be added to the boot sequence before the hdd one, so that you can make a disc to help you get out of this? (ala catfish?)
It already supports booting two XBE's, so you can have a 'recovery' dashboard.
I'd say the only catastrophic, unavoidable failure would be something booting incorrectly or a bad application deleting files off C...
saludos.......
| QUOTE (Chicken Scratch Boy @ Jun 26 2004, 08:52 AM) |
| to avoid said catastrophic failure, could an xbe on the dvd drive be added to the boot sequence before the hdd one, so that you can make a disc to help you get out of this? (ala catfish?) |
Wouldn't the main problem of UDE corruption occur with people trying to update their dash via a game? In which case it would be xboxdash.xbe which would be stuffed and the only thing which would boot would be a gamesave.
However if it is just some dumbass stuffing up their default modified dashboard, yeah there is the duel-boot recovery option.
If only someone could add the feature to a bios which disabled accidental dashboard updates...
I see a potential problem with UDE, at least using ldots package.
If someone trash E:, there would be no way to rescue it except hotswap. The reason is that the dualboot is designed to look for E:. And since E: is trashed, even game save is lost and since one cannot launch ms dash, there is no way to transfer the game save.
thats with any drive..if the user mess up important files deleting or corupting it..then it wont work..thats why the said back up ya xbox on ya PC..i have backup on my xbox..on my pc..and a backup of my exploited hdd
Indeed, I don't see a possibly better exploit then UDE. No realistic risk of clockloop, no real way to mess it up thoroughly, I just don't see any real room for improvement. Perhaps an exploit that bypasses the need for signed files at all, but that just isn't happening.

I had a power problem a few days ago, so had to turn off my MechFonts..
Meaning back to the Audio Exploit for a few days.
You know what, it wasnt too bad
I kinda missed it from the old days. It still a great Hack and very simple for noobs (like my DAD!) just a pain to boot... but after weeks of practice you can do it pretty quick..
| QUOTE (mkjones @ Jul 12 2004, 11:23 AM) |
Ya know what 
I had a power problem a few days ago, so had to turn off my MechFonts..
Meaning back to the Audio Exploit for a few days.
You know what, it wasnt too bad I kinda missed it from the old days. It still a great Hack and very simple for noobs (like my DAD!) just a pain to boot... but after weeks of practice you can do it pretty quick.. |
hey mkjones, why arent you using UDE?
i still remeber the good ol days with audio exploit LOL!!
| QUOTE (adil786 @ Jul 12 2004, 11:35 AM) |
hey mkjones, why arent you using UDE?
i still remeber the good ol days with audio exploit LOL!! |
I havnt got around to it yet
Im still on my Font/Audio package (mech fonts) that boots from the "Pheonix" tab, it all works great so I have no real drive to change as yet.
I have plans, when I have time, to change my set up.. but for now this will do
| QUOTE (mkjones @ Jul 12 2004, 12:36 PM) |
I havnt got around to it yet
Im still on my Font/Audio package (mech fonts) that boots from the "Pheonix" tab, it all works great so I have no real drive to change as yet.
I have plans, when I have time, to change my set up.. but for now this will do |
come on mkjones, you used to be into softmodding alot, you helped loads of folk!
try idots ude mem card package, it will take max about 10 mins, including time to transfer gamesave and you'll be laughing in no time!
my current set up is =
tray open = mxm dash for fallback in case i screw up/mess about with pbl/dashboards
tray close = pbl lite (reallllllly fast!) > tHc Lite (great dash, ireccomend it over evox/mxm as it loads up quick and is really nice as it is based on a dash which was made byt the biggest coorporation in the world!
regards,
Looks like UDE is kicking the anus out of every other exploit. Ahh, the way it should be.
| QUOTE (YoshiKool @ Jul 18 2004, 06:35 PM) |
someone needs to add UDE2 to the exploit list |
Thanks, but why? It's offers nothing over the UDE already listed - its simply been
ported to the newer hardware.
I can guarantee that more people use the exploit than vote on this thread so you really wouldn't be able to find out how many users there are using UDE2 yet. I can bet there are quite a few.
| QUOTE (adil786 @ Jul 12 2004, 12:09 PM) |
come on mkjones, you used to be into softmodding alot, you helped loads of folk!
try idots ude mem card package, it will take max about 10 mins, including time to transfer gamesave and you'll be laughing in no time!
my current set up is =
tray open = mxm dash for fallback in case i screw up/mess about with pbl/dashboards
tray close = pbl lite (reallllllly fast!) > tHc Lite (great dash, ireccomend it over evox/mxm as it loads up quick and is really nice as it is based on a dash which was made byt the biggest coorporation in the world!
regards, |
Its so true! Complacency has gotten the better of me

Its all in the plan! I am just waiting for a real solution for newer kernals
| QUOTE (mkjones @ Jul 20 2004, 10:58 AM) |
Its so true! Complacency has gotten the better of me 
Its all in the plan! I am just waiting for a real solution for newer kernals |
dont ya have an old xbox?
you been softmoddding for ages?
| QUOTE (adil786 @ Jul 20 2004, 11:52 AM) |
dont ya have an old xbox?
you been softmoddding for ages? |
Of course I do
But theres no point in me working on any new packages/mods if new users have to be missed out

poor sods...
By the looks of things it wont be long before UDE can be run on all kernals

hopefully..
| QUOTE (mkjones @ Jul 20 2004, 07:45 PM) |
Of course I do
But theres no point in me working on any new packages/mods if new users have to be missed out poor sods...
By the looks of things it wont be long before UDE can be run on all kernals hopefully.. |
oh, i see now,
i hope aswell a pal exploitable update is found!
| QUOTE (adil786 @ Jul 20 2004, 11:20 PM) |
oh, i see now,
i hope aswell a pal exploitable update is found! |
Me too! Being in the UK and all that makes it a bugger for me to work on an all kernal package

Remember the good old days

before kernal updates
| QUOTE (adil786 @ Jul 12 2004, 12:09 PM) |
come on mkjones, you used to be into softmodding alot, you helped loads of folk!
try idots ude mem card package, it will take max about 10 mins, including time to transfer gamesave and you'll be laughing in no time!
my current set up is =
tray open = mxm dash for fallback in case i screw up/mess about with pbl/dashboards
tray close = pbl lite (reallllllly fast!) > tHc Lite (great dash, ireccomend it over evox/mxm as it loads up quick and is really nice as it is based on a dash which was made byt the biggest coorporation in the world!
regards, |
How do you have it boot to a different app (other than PBL) with the tray open? Your using UDE right? Could you please point me to a tutorial/instructions?
| QUOTE (DaBeast77 @ Jul 21 2004, 07:21 AM) |
| How do you have it boot to a different app (other than PBL) with the tray open? Your using UDE right? Could you please point me to a tutorial/instructions? |
its dualbooting m8, all over the UDE thread.
i used lools 1.6.1, try it m8, has everything you need already built in to a nice installer!
| QUOTE (adil786 @ Jul 21 2004, 11:11 AM) |
| i used lools 1.6.1, try it m8, has everything you need already built in to a nice installer! |
lools 1.6.1?? i didn't know lools was putting out a package.

haha just kidding man. we all know that Ldots is a stud.
| QUOTE (jonathan2007 @ Jul 22 2004, 03:38 AM) |
lools 1.6.1?? i didn't know lools was putting out a package. haha just kidding man. we all know that Ldots is a stud. |
didnt you know m8?
theres 2 versions,
one is ltools = easy, for n00bs
one is lools = more to configure, for pro's.

Ya, I was first using different audio exploits, but now using UDE. Thanks goes out to everyone involved in software exploits!
| QUOTE (belgarath @ Jul 31 2004, 05:17 AM) |
my fav is 007aufsavewithEvoxInstaller.zip but im bias i made it ;-] i think it was the second package made after the raincoat version. but full props go to the maker of that package i got the idear from it. i just wanted an easier way to flash the 1.0 to 1.2 without winbond. and habibi probabley spelt it wrong but i lub you. |
lol,
yeah tsops are still good.