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Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: Flame2k on May 25, 2004, 05:25:00 AM
modchip is always the best option because you dont have 2 worry about anything like setting up pbl, signing, clockloops corrupted st.db and all that lol.

i dont think pbl works on 5530 but you dont need it to run evox and homebrew apps as long as u have dash 4920.
But you do need it for backup games  dry.gif
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: krayzie on May 25, 2004, 05:34:00 AM
You don't need it for backup games also.
Anyway the eeprom patching yoshihiro mentioned doesn't work for any xbox so not even pal ones. the code he mentioned did only ocur in pal xboxes though. I don't know if there is progress on this subject or that there ever will be. Maybe since the exploit  scene is hot the last few weeks/days, with all these new wonderfull exploits, someone smart will rise up and look further into the 5530 kernel problem.
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: ajjc on May 26, 2004, 12:38:00 AM
QUOTE (krayzie @ May 25 2004, 02:34 PM)
You don't need it for backup games also.

How would you do that? How can you get to the DVD?
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: gargy on May 26, 2004, 01:08:00 AM
QUOTE (ajjc @ May 26 2004, 09:38 AM)
How would you do that? How can you get to the DVD?

 You can not access an original DVD, but you can access a backed-up DVD.

So
1) you put the backup in the dvd tray
2) then via ftp you transfer all the files to your pc.
3) After that you sign everything with audio (or habibi or font) key.
4) And finally you burn a new dvd with the signed xbe's

The above does not work with originals (unless you can run PBL)
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: PedrosPad on May 26, 2004, 02:11:00 AM
QUOTE (gargy @ May 26 2004, 10:08 AM)
You can not access an original DVD

Surly if it's an original game DVD you simply boot it  blink.gif

Edit: That didn't help anyone did it.  wink.gif
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: gargy on May 26, 2004, 04:02:00 AM
QUOTE (ajjc @ May 26 2004, 11:25 AM)
I have another question what if use dvd2xbox would I be able to access an original?

There is no way to access an original without using PBL.

You can use dvd2xbox on backups and the sign the xbe's as I mentioned before.
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: PedrosPad on May 26, 2004, 04:26:00 AM
QUOTE (gargy @ May 26 2004, 01:02 PM)
There is no way to access an original without using PBL.

You can use dvd2xbox on backups and the sign the xbe's as I mentioned before.

huh? huh.gif

I don't have this Kernel so I guess I'm missing something.  unsure.gif

5530 can run all of the exploits - since it allows Dashboard downgrading, right?  It's simply that the debug functions in the BIOS that PBL uses to load a BFM BIOS have been removed.  So PBL don't work.

Surly you can use either UDE, font, audio, exploits, on a downgraded 4290 Dashboard  to arrive at signed Evox with no Reset-on-Eject.  Pop in your original DVD, use the Evox menu to launch a signed dvd2xbox from the HDD, and use it to copy the original DVD to the XBOX HDD (which is what dvd2xbox does isn't it?).
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: CooperS on May 26, 2004, 04:51:00 AM
QUOTE (gargy @ May 26 2004, 01:40 PM)
Yes you are missing something  

When you try to access an original DVD with the original BIOS loaded the only thing you can see is a 10Mb .vob file with a video saying that you are an idiot and you put the DVD into your DVD player and not in your xbox tongue.gif

That's the major problem of all K:5530 users. We can not run PBL, so we stick to the original MS Bios and we can not have access to the track(?) that holds the data.
sad.gif

I didn't know that. Just tried it. That vid looks cool.  cool.gif
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: PedrosPad on May 26, 2004, 04:56:00 AM
QUOTE (gargy @ May 26 2004, 01:40 PM)
When you try to access an original DVD with the original BIOS loaded the only thing you can see is a 10Mb .vob file with a video saying that you are an idiot and you put the DVD into your DVD player and not in your xbox tongue.gif

That's the major problem of all K:5530 users. We can not run PBL, so we stick to the original MS Bios and we can not have access to the track(?) that holds the data.
sad.gif

Many thanks for the info.  Didn't realize that.  Me thinks it'd probably be easier to get an exploit to directly patch that media check (in RAM), than get PBL working on 5530 to load in a whole new BIOS.
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: gargy on May 26, 2004, 08:09:00 PM
QUOTE (PedrosPad @ May 26 2004, 01:56 PM)
...it'd probably be easier to get an exploit to directly patch that media check (in RAM)...

 It sounds like a good idea but I don't have the programming skills to do it. Though if someone wants to give it a try I am willing to test it.  smile.gif
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: ajjc on May 26, 2004, 10:59:00 PM
QUOTE (gargy @ May 27 2004, 05:16 AM)
That's weird huh.gif

Have you tried to put the backup in a dvd player or a pc dvd? Is there any vob file?

If you try to boot the xbox with the backup in the drive do you get an error 21?

Maybe your xbox dvd-rom just can't read the media of the backup! Some xbox dvd roms prefer certain media (CD-RW for example).

It is weird.

I tried to read the DVD on my laptop but it looks empty. I know for a fact there's a game on the dvd. I borrowed the game from a friend with a modded xbox (with a  chip).

I'm gonna try it with another dvd and see what happens...
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: krayzie on May 27, 2004, 04:58:00 AM
The little video is only present on retail discs and not on burned media
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: Ned_Flanders on May 28, 2004, 05:17:00 PM
unsure.gif   smile.gif
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: PedrosPad on May 28, 2004, 10:33:00 PM
QUOTE (jfpo @ May 29 2004, 01:04 AM)
exist some app for sign the xbe files, directly from the XBOX?

xbedump was originally a Linux program.  Linux runs on the XBOX.
http://cvs.sourcefor...-linux/xbedump/
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: chimpanzee on May 29, 2004, 01:06:00 AM
QUOTE (PedrosPad @ May 29 2004, 07:33 AM)
xbedump was originally a Linux program.  Linux runs on the XBOX.
http://cvs.sourcefor...-linux/xbedump/

but that only has -habibi for signing.

Anyone knows where I can find newer source that can also do audio or font signing ?
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: Flame2k on May 30, 2004, 01:59:00 AM
muhaha.gif

if i knew how to program id do it lol... *runs to library....*
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: jfpo on May 31, 2004, 03:08:00 PM
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Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: kennelbound on June 14, 2004, 10:31:00 AM
QUOTE (gargy @ May 26 2004, 10:08 AM)
You can not access an original DVD, but you can access a backed-up DVD.

I have been able to access an original using the doubledash, but it should work with any of the audio hacks as far as I understand them.

Startup - you should get the normal dashboard. Then insert the disk.

Wait for a couple of seconds (like 3 or 4) and before the game is launched, start the hack (with dd which is what I use you select the Xbox Live! tab)

It will freak out for a second.  The screen went black, then flashed the original dash for a second then I got avalaunch (the dash I use.)

Disk is recognized as a game, not a DVD.  Just finished copying Halo as a test.

As far as signing xbe's on the xbox, I am working on it.  I have already gotten xbedump to run on the xbox, but it hangs (using a custom compiled version for DOS and bochs.)  I am currently looking into using the xbox-linux live CD to do it, but its not completely finished yet.  I will let the scene know if I have any success. ohmy.gif
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: kennelbound on June 27, 2004, 06:10:00 PM
Update:

Still having some trouble with signing on the xbox, but haven't had a whole lot of time to do much.  I may just end up porting the dang xbedump to the xbox, but that would be a last option.

Now i'm trying to find a way for the xbox to recognize larger harddrives without PBL.
Title: Pbl And Kernel 5530 Question
Post by: krayzie on June 27, 2004, 07:36:00 PM
QUOTE (kennelbound @ Jun 28 2004, 03:10 AM)
Update:

Still having some trouble with signing on the xbox, but haven't had a whole lot of time to do much.  I may just end up porting the dang xbedump to the xbox, but that would be a last option.

Now i'm trying to find a way for the xbox to recognize larger harddrives without PBL.

Your answer about signing and larger harddisk lies in the nkpatcher.