| QUOTE (cowgabuger @ Apr 11 2004, 05:02 AM) |
| try to use the reloaded font, it give you less reboots and will loop out faster than other fonts when you are in a clock loop.. |
Untrue, the hacked MechInstaller fonts will get out equally as well, if not better. The majority of Xboxes do not suffer a permanent clock look with the MechInstaller fonts
Yeah just becaus your own xbox gets out of the loop with the reloaded fonts doesn't mean any xbox will get out with them. The mech fonts however have the best chance of getting out on all kinda xbox versions. Also the reloaded fonts suck cuz they set the time wrongly on every boot.
Isn't there a new hack out that runs the PBL when you click the Xbox Live tab from the dashboard? It would totally eliminate clock-loops. If it is available, could someone give me a link to a tutorial on installing them?
I just found a new method to get out.
I had just unplugged my xbox and moved it to the living room and it started looping. It looped three times, then I unplugged all controllers and VUALAHH! I say this:
Plug in ethernet cord
Put in Audio CD (eject Cd tray then insert audio cd and close to lag)
Unplug all controllers
And you should get out of the Mech-loop quite easy. Although I havent tested those on any other fonts...
| QUOTE (billenglish @ Apr 11 2004, 03:54 PM) |
| Isn't there a new hack out that runs the PBL when you click the Xbox Live tab from the dashboard? It would totally eliminate clock-loops. If it is available, could someone give me a link to a tutorial on installing them? |
Had to go back 11 pages, but I finally found it. Use this along with Feenix-Evox. It's real simple to install.
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=120269 Also, they can and will get caught in a clock loop. I don't know how or why, but they do. I got stuck in one last weekend.
Temp pin for a while. Good work.
i have a xbox that has been in clock loop for about a week and a half. for some reason it wont come out i tried everything. it just keeps restarting. i was working until my mom unpluged it and then in never came out. does anyone kno what other methods i can get to the ms dashboard to set the time?
When you post here, I am happy to help 
There is one option I listed that is guranteed to work. That would be Step 7. Hotswap, disable the fonts, set time (hook up the box back up and then go in and set the time). Hotswap and again, enable the fonts and your good to go.
I use bert and ernie reloaded, i used a tutorial i found on this site that has you edit a copy of the msdash and rename it and put it in your evox menu so you have a way of being able to manage your saved games.
Whenever i leave the box unplugged and it goes into a clock loop all i do is while its booting, i hold the down button on the D pad, and repeatedly click the A button, it comes right out of the loop on the first try everytime. Its installed in a 1.0 xbox with a seagate 10 gig hard drive. I dont remember what PBL im using, its the one that allows you to boot different bios's might be 1.4.1 but not sure.
P.S. Once its out of the loop and my dash loads, i just go to the modified msdash and reset the clock.
Hope this helps
Oh and dont ask me how i figured this out if it works for you lol.
This post has been edited by Lugnut: Apr 29 2004, 06:56 AM
does anyone kno when exactly i have to perform the hotswap? i tired it a number amount of times and it was still locked. is it when the MS sign pops up?
What's the difference between all th different font files? I'm using the big fonts right now and wondering if I should switch to mechassault ones, because it sounds like if i get into clock loop mech assault is more likely to get out of it. Any suggestions? Thanks.
can someone give me the exact symptoms of the clock loop - couldn't find a definitive description anywhere.
here are my symptoms -
wierd frag ie: sometimes loads evox fine. sometimes flashes red green with no video/audio output but doesn't turn on/off, sometimes solid red no a/v. sometime will allow eject sometimes wont
even though its chipped i'm suspicious of clock loop because its only ever been into ms dash when playing dvds.
sorry if its the wrong thread but cant find help for this prob anywhere else. never seen clock loop before so i'm thinking it might be the prob
To get out of the loop, you may also leave the xbox unplugged for 2 hours and then the font exploit should load correctly (this has worked on a friend of mine)
| QUOTE (UraniumXT @ May 3 2004, 02:50 PM) |
To get out of the loop, you may also leave the xbox unplugged for 2 hours and then the font exploit should load correctly (this has worked on a friend of mine)
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Thats not going to work. The only way the font exploit will load is if the time is set. And leaving it unplugged isn't going to help. I think your friend just got lucky.
the best fix for the clock loop is the mechassault fonts. It worked perfect for me and for 3 other xboxes. They never had any clock loop again.
The very best solution is to use the double-dash exploit!
OK I give up,
I had a nice working stable font hacked xbox working just great - it was fab I could leave it off for any amount of time and it just worked.
In a fit of madness one night I thought I would try to put on a bigger HD and changed the bios on the disk to make sure it would work before I went to buy the new HD. The machine just came up blank but I could still get into it via the mechasault save game. I went to bed and pulled the plug on the xbox. I now have an xbox that starts up and pops the little green circle as if to set the clock then bangs up the phenoix then goes dead. I cant get a dvd to boot the damn thing and so far none of the tricks are working (my other xbox used to come out when I pluged in an active network lead)
I'm sure I could get it back with a hot swap.
Does anyone have any thoughts
TC
Has anyone else had trouble getting the hotswap to work to fix a clock loop?
I cant seem to get the damn thing unlocked. Ive tried unplugging the DVD drive, it goes to the "XBOX requires service" screen, then I do the swap (unplug the ide to the xbox hd, then plug in my pc's ide cable). Ive also tried just witing until the MS logo show up under the xbox logo too. Neither seem to work (and ive tried the xbox hd maker , as well as hd_driver for windows xp).
If anyone hjas some suggestions let me know, non e of the other solutions seem to work either. Would I be able to make my box usable again if I put in a physical mod chip as a last resort?
there must be a small moment the drive is unlocked. I've been told that you can hear little clicking sounds when it unlocks and locks back again so listen carefully a couple of times and try to figure out the moments of unlocking. It may also help if you take out the ide cable first then put it pack in but just a bit so that it barely makes contact an then turn on the xbox. that way you can pull out the cable much quicker so the drive has much less time to lock again. you could offcourse always put in a preflashed modchip to fix it.
one way i limited the looping is by making up a network loopback cable,same as a crosswired cable but cross wired to itself.if when left without power it starts looping i just power off and power on and it boots up fine.if anyone is interested in makeing the cable i`ll supply a diagram.all ya need is a patch lead and some tape.
hope this helps someone
regards
Newflesh
| QUOTE (Newflesh @ May 14 2004, 04:22 PM) |
one way i limited the looping is by making up a network loopback cable,same as a crosswired cable but cross wired to itself.if when left without power it starts looping i just power off and power on and it boots up fine.if anyone is interested in makeing the cable i`ll supply a diagram.all ya need is a patch lead and some tape.
hope this helps someone regards Newflesh |
seems to be the same as plugging the Xbox to a hub/router, or link Xbox with a cross cable with another PC.
| QUOTE (chimpanzee @ May 14 2004, 04:53 PM) |
| seems to be the same as plugging the Xbox to a hub/router, or link Xbox with a cross cable with another PC. |
not everyone has a router,wants to connect or has access in a particular room to a pc,this is just another idea for doing it without having a cable running from the livingroom to the computer /bedroom.
my box is stuck in the loop... I hope some of the solutions I found here will help... in the meantime, I'm switching my family xbox over to the UDE, since I'm afraid this'll happen again...
The UDE is really the most amazing xploit I've seen, and solves the loop problem...heh, bet we'll soon see loop posts dissappearing.
| QUOTE (SpIdErXeN @ Jun 2 2004, 01:40 AM) |
| The UDE is really the most amazing xploit I've seen, and solves the loop problem...heh, bet we'll soon see loop posts dissappearing. |
I don't know about that. Many newbs come in here and post about using such and such's mod. And those tutoriasl are very old and use old fonts that are prone to clock loops. If only people learned to read the pinned tutorials.
Yeah, ned got it, wayyyy too many people still use fon exploits and say "oh it doesn't matter i won't get in a loop".. and a few of them are using fon'ts like Free-X that cannot get out of loops at all...
The worst part of it all is that they actually think they know their shit and advise lots of n00bish people to use certain old stuff/tutorials.
Honestly, noone should EVER use a dash font exploit, i don't see a reason for it...
| QUOTE (tarabas75 @ Jun 2 2004, 02:29 PM) |
Hey I solved my problem just inserting an AUDIO CD. It works for XBOX v.1.3!!! Thank u!!! |
Hey why don't you just use the UDE and you will never have to worry about a clock loop again. End of story.
| QUOTE (BlazingAA @ Jun 10 2004, 10:02 PM) |
| Because you can't use live, end of story. Doubledash however works fine with live and cannot get into a loop. |
Yeah untill live updates your dash to 5960 and kills your nice double dash. By the way UDE combined with easter egg works fine on live and with the newest dash.
Does it display an error number in the corner? If so what is the number.
Nope, there's no perfect way to escape a loop.
| QUOTE (Makhno @ Aug 14 2004, 08:57 PM) |
I saw the Bert is cheating on Ernie were only for a 4034 bios...
is this the case with Bert and Ernie Reloaded? |
none of the font exploits were for [A] SPECIFIC kernel.
| QUOTE |
====================== Compatibility Issues ======================
Only works with a 4034 retail bios. |
| QUOTE (eh. @ Aug 14 2004, 11:15 PM) |
Re: "none of the font exploits were for [A] SPECIFIC kernel.", the BiCoE nfo says: |
o_0
Hi all. I have done several mods, but am unfamiliar with softmodding. I have a client that is stuck in a clock loop. Can I just put in a modchip, and reformat the HD to stock? Or even put in a new HD?
well SICKdimension, you have many options, you can fix/update the current softmod, by that I mean installUDE/UDE2, you could just turn his xbox back to stock, ro you could put a modchip in, format and lock a HD for him and install UDE?UDE2(use Ldots hdmaker)
Edit: I am going to guess the client had an older soft mod like bigfons or B and E reloaded...
Well, I want to stay away from softmodding. I would TSOP it. So can I just chip it and boot from a cd, then reformat the hd? That should take care of everything, right?
so best of luck.
I have ran into the clock loop. My xbox keeps restarting. Will adding a mod chip fix this problem? What solderless chip do you recommend? Thanks!!!
any chip will do.
| QUOTE (discostu123 @ Sep 19 2004, 01:56 PM) |
| I have ran into the clock loop. My xbox keeps restarting. Will adding a mod chip fix this problem? What solderless chip do you recommend? Thanks!!! |
u dont always need a modchip though.
| QUOTE (DruPalmer @ Sep 16 2004, 10:13 PM) |
Just found a new way to get out of loop. Just before the system is going to reboot, push the eject button..and there you go, instant start-up. Have to have good timing... so best of luck. |
Can someone confirm this?
| QUOTE (DruPalmer @ Sep 16 2004, 10:13 PM) |
Just found a new way to get out of loop. Just before the system is going to reboot, push the eject button..and there you go, instant start-up. Have to have good timing... so best of luck. |
I tried all other things and they didn't work (except for hotswap) but this eject thing worked!
thanks.
the clock loop shouldn't even exist anymore. everyone should have moved over to UDE by now.
If you haven't then do it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok so I am stuck in a clock loop. I have modded my XBOX with a chip. The chip shows on the boot, but I am still in the clock loop. What do I do next?
I used the splinter cell exploit, then ftp'd the unmodded c in slayers 2.5 then added the PBL 1.3.5i and added the X2 bios and the Evox M7 bios, then i applied the font hack with bert is cheating on ernie and im in a clock loop, can anyone help?
did you try just leaving to boot .
i was away for 4h and xbox set there waything to do things.
i dont think its gonna work cause i used the wrong font hack,
can i send someone my hdd to have it fixed?
Any help?
Ok so i made a little mistake, i wasnt done modding my xbox, (the hack dosnt work yet) and the clock needs tobe reset, its by no means a loop, its just that it gives me error 21. it was allright as long as i put a disk in the drive and booted, but now that it HAS to boot up with the origional dash, it cant load, get what im sayin? is there any way to get out of it?
thanks for any help...
has anyone gotten a 007 hack xbox version 1 or a 1.1 to get out??
I just did the eject method, it worked for me, but he was right--you have to time it. For me I had to press the button about half a second before Micro$oft logo came up because it took a sec for the tray to get ready to eject or something... just screw with it for a while, i had to do it about 7 times
ok lets make it simple for people who cant get to ms dash YET
you can fix that.
search for the backup of fonts(THE REAL FONTS [original ones])
create a folder on c:
name the folder f0nts 0(NUMBER)
download this free tool
hexeditor
http://www.hhdsoftwa...d/hexedfull.exe
get from c: this file
msxboxdash.xbe
put it on your pc
open the hex editor
load the msxboxdash.xbe
go to edit in the hex program
in the BYTE case put this line
66 00 6f 00 6e 00 74 00 73
gonna find this fonts change the o(letter) to 0(number)
f0nts <== like this
search again in the BYTE case
66 00 6f 00 6e 00 74 00 73
till you find and edit all the fonts you found to f0nts
save the file and pass it to the xbox and replace it with the new one.
and walla no more problems.
XD
i recommend doing this THE 1st time u load the exploit, so you dont gonna get more problems NEVER.
Modchips are Nice and would Love To Have One but don't have the Cash for that and for all you ppl like me softmod is not a Bad thing.
Alot of Modchip Users will Piss on Softmod Users just becouse they think if you softmod your Xbox thats more or less Killing it.
thats Far from the Truth,
Owell if you ever get in to a clock loop don't go all Nuts on your Xbox just Read up on it and try every thing.
Pss..... Remeber If you just keep yous Xbox pluged up you will never get in to a Clock Loop. (you can unplug it) if you need to unplug it make sure you plug it back in befor 45mins some Xbox's can last longer but if you don't want to find out how long yours last for make sure you plug it back in befor 45mins
| QUOTE (Kolk1604 @ Apr 11 2004, 03:30 AM) |
Fix: 7. If all else fails, then gain access to your Xbox HD, disable the fonts, set the time and then turn them back on again. |
Is there any tutorials or anything out there that shows the easiest or best way to Hot Swap and fix the clock?
| QUOTE (zzk2001 @ Dec 7 2004, 12:29 AM) |
Useing ernie_and_bert_reloaded , Signed_Phoenix_Bios_Loader_V1.3, EvolutionX Build 3935
Have a Xbox V 1.0 Stock HD
Had a Clock Loop but just hooked up the Network cord to router then let it keep reloading till it gave up and booted in to EVOX took about 2-3 hours
DoNot give up after only 1hour let it keep restarting at most for 5hours if not fixed after that try All Athere stuff.
Ps... after fixed just keep your Xbox pluged up not really that hard
Modchips are Nice and would Love To Have One but don't have the Cash for that and for all you ppl like me softmod is not a Bad thing.
Alot of Modchip Users will Piss on Softmod Users just becouse they think if you softmod your Xbox thats more or less Killing it. thats Far from the Truth, Owell if you ever get in to a clock loop don't go all Nuts on your Xbox just Read up on it and try every thing.
Pss..... Remeber If you just keep yous Xbox pluged up you will never get in to a Clock Loop. (you can unplug it) if you need to unplug it make sure you plug it back in befor 45mins some Xbox's can last longer but if you don't want to find out how long yours last for make sure you plug it back in befor 45mins |
If you install UXE, you'll never get a clock loop either.
Why is this still a problem? There's no reason to still be using these outdated hacks.
I have a question .... probably gonna get told to shut up cause there's no way it could be done!!
Would it be possible to implement a simple circuit with a cmos battery (or relevant battery) that would continually power the xbox much the same way that the cmos battery in a PC works???
Sure, but this question could be better answered in the hardware section of the forum..
QUOTE(gasclown @ May 2 2004, 01:56 PM)
can someone give me the exact symptoms of the clock loop - couldn't find a definitive description anywhere.
The clock loop has to do with software exploits. If you installed a chip you can never have a clock loop (at least usually never). Your loop might be another loop but it's not a clock loop.
there's a blast from the past....
Alright, since this is the official clock loop thread, I figured I'd post my problem here even though it's been a while since the last reply.
Anyway, I've got this 1.4 xbox with no mods/exploits at all. Well, I believe the guy tried to install a font exploit but has since removed it. I hotswapped the sucker and took a look and I can find no excess files on the drive. I tried the advice about clock loops like putting in an audio CD, connecting it to a network, etc. and it hasn't ended. Every now and again (seems random) it will take an extra long time to boot and then shoot to error 13.
How in the hell can I fix this one? Would hotswapping and isntalling a font exploit like bert & ernie reloaded help? And on that note, would I want to put free-x/evox on there as well, or just the fonts? I'd really like to see this thing end. It boots DVDs fine but not audio CDs, haven't tried it with a game.
thanks for lookin!
edit: I just had a thought...would hot swapping it and filling the c:\ drive with an MS dash I know to work get me out of it? IE I would just copy the files from my own box, hotswap the broken one to the computer and replace the old MS files with mine. Would that help or just screw it up even more?
Reverting to MS Dash off your Xbox will get you out of it.
If you're going to install an exploit, go for nDure or UXE, they don't get clock loops (that's why this thread died off).
I'll just do that then.
Look at the timestamp on the post before yours. This thread has been dead for over a year.
The advent of softmod UDE (followed UXE) consigned clock loops to history.
Now I gotta go back and read a bit of this post. Has a certain nostalgic purpose.
Why did nobody just use the audio hack? Lol!
But yeah, Im'a add something to the frontend of this post so hopefully people using Google can realize this is seriously ancient...
QUOTE(DruPalmer @ Sep 16 2004, 08:46 PM)

Just found a new way to get out of loop. Just before the system is going to reboot, push the eject button..and there you go, instant start-up. Have to have good timing... so best of luck.
do you have to do this every time you get a "clock loop" or is it only one time only, please answer! i've just got a xbox that has this clock loop and this solution is the most easiest out of them all lol