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Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: giantboog on January 02, 2004, 09:19:00 AM
I will come right out and say it... I dont understand.

I have PBL Pheonix Bois Loader... I guess whats what that stands for.

I am using Mordens 007 audio exploit v3 softmod with the MXM dashboard.

I want to play Crimson skies DVD or Hard drive doesnt matter.

what app do I need to "-font" sign the xbe of Crimson skies so that I can burn it onto a DVD and have it play.  Will this only work with xboxes that have modchips or will it work with soft mods too.

Can someone breifly outline the steps and apps used or point me to a tut? Thanks

1.)
2.)
3.)

=]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

that didnt work


UPDATE: with a non patched default.xbe dvd

I loaded the audio hack. I saw the Pheonix screen. Pressed A when prompted. Loaded the Evox.bin not the 4799 bin or what ever the number is... (there are only two to choose from). It then proceeds to boot into MXM. I put the dvdr of crimson skies in and it will load the first training level. After playing that level you dock in your zepplin and get to go on the next mission. That mission never loads... it just sits there.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: adam1972 on January 09, 2004, 09:23:00 AM
This is what worked for me... I'm also using the PBL and evox BTW.
1. I created 2 folders in my C drive.
a. One "PBL" folder with the PBL "default.xbe" inside that particular folder.
b. Another folder named "EVOX" with my -fonts signed "default.xbe" inside this one (this is not the PBL default.xbe but the one that comes with Free-Xevox).

2. I added these 2 Items and Actions to my "evox.ini"
CODE
   
Item "Deactivate PBL",@215    
Item "Activate PBL",@216    

[Action_15]    
Info "Turning OFF PBL"  
Warning "Turning OFF PBL.. That okay?"  
Progress "Turning it OFF now........"  
copy "c:/EVOX/default.xbe" "c:/default.xbe"    

[Action_16]    
Info "Turning ON PBL"  
Warning "Turning ON PBL.. That okay?"  
Progress "Turning it ON now........"  
copy "c:/PBL/default.xbe" "c:/default.xbe"



NOW i can turn PBL on or off whenever I need to. I tried the renaming but that ended up corrupting my file on 3 seperate occasions  blink.gif  .. Now I can play CS without a problem  beerchug.gif
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: xboxwannabe on January 09, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
ummmm... this looks familar laugh.gif
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: TheSource on January 20, 2004, 11:35:00 PM
QUOTE (Jagosix @ Nov 27 2003, 05:20 AM)
QUOTE (xboxwannabe @ Nov 26 2003, 10:11 PM)
ok only 2 games that dont work with exploits i hear you say .but last week it was only 1 !are exploiters gonna be left in the dark with new games while mod chippers scoff at our cheapness .A glimmer of hope would be to know why these games dont work with PBL

Is it a memory conflict ? if so coincidence or delibrate ?

Are The games Patching the bios before executing using exploit tricks against us ??

who knows

answers on a postcard please

blink.gif

Hello smile.gif , I'll have 2 dissagree with u on at least 1 of the mentioned tittles. I've gotten XIII to work by using PBL 1.3.5 with the new fixed 4979_bfm for font exploits.  Give it a try it worked on mine. BTW it's just a matter of time b4 the font exploit gets better or on the same level as a hard mod smile.gif.


u can learn something from everybody smile.gif.

Where did you guys find your RC4 keys for the BFM bios to use with PBL? in the usual place it says to use the DEBUG RC4... but of course neglects to procide it smile.gif
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: EdGe7 on January 22, 2004, 10:22:00 PM
Not sure whats happening here, maybe my brain is fried... I had this working in the past, but now I can't... I use to have to sign all my games using xbedump -font because I have the 5051 bios... and when this exploit came out, the loaders where not compatible with this bios... since PBL came out, I have not had the need to sign them for obvious reasons... but now that I want to run Crimson Skies, I have setup my xbox back to boot to Evox and use PBL as an APP... and I have signed Crimson Ties with xbedump -font, but when I go to launch the game, I still get the system 21 error...

Has it been so long that I am missing a step? Anyone have any ideas what is happening here... I am using bert and ernie reloaded. Like I said, this was working before, but not anymore.

EdGe7
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: KENTOY on January 23, 2004, 08:03:00 PM
guys, i know this is somewhat off-topic but do you have to really turn-off your modchip in order to run PBL 1.3.5i with a newer x2 bios?

i have a x-ecuter 1 chip but have'nt installed an on/off switch since i don't have broadband in order to use live.

so PBL 1.3.5i work with my x-ecuter chip always switched on?

thanks
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Valhalla1 on January 23, 2004, 08:35:00 PM
QUOTE (ddaddy @ Dec 8 2003, 12:52 PM)
QUOTE
If you have a game in your drive when you start your xbox, it will start BEFORE PBL loads (Provided it is a signed default xbe-whether it is MS signed, or signed for your hack)


If you boot with a game in your drive, it has to be an original  uhh.gif

The font exploit doesnt load if a game is in the drive, unless you flash the tsop.

just wanted to say regarding this :

I have softmodded 4 xboxes..    1.0,  1.2-or3,  and 2 1.4/5's

all of them with bigfonts, pbl 1.3 (1.3.5i on the 1.4/5's).   all of them require I boot into evox with no disc inserted, then I insert the game and it will load.  

except, for the 1.2or3,  which will boot every game I've tried dvd-r  and cd-rw  with the game sitting in the drive when you power it on, just like a retail game.  

I have no idea why..  and i cant recall if PBL loads or not when it boots
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on January 24, 2004, 06:39:00 AM
QUOTE (KENTOY @ Jan 23 2004, 10:03 PM)
guys, i know this is somewhat off-topic but do you have to really turn-off your modchip in order to run PBL 1.3.5i with a newer x2 bios?

i have a x-ecuter 1 chip but have'nt installed an on/off switch since i don't have broadband in order to use live.

so PBL 1.3.5i work with my x-ecuter chip always switched on?

thanks

you should be able to just rename pbl's xbe to whatever is set to boot first on your bios, but if that is evoxdash.xbe you whould need to edit most bioses, and due to lack of xbtool updates for the more recent bios, thank your lucky stars that avalaunch.xbe boots first now in the 4980 and 81 bioses smile.gif
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Daphisto on February 06, 2004, 10:12:00 AM
Was the issue of Crimson Skies not being able to run in conjunction with PBL ever solved?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Nailed on February 06, 2004, 04:45:00 PM
QUOTE (itchi @ Jan 28 2004, 04:52 AM)
What would be interesting is if a dashboard could kill -9/end task a process.  Then, it might be possible to kill the PBL process which seems to be interfering in the Crimson Skies load process.

Unfortunately, the XBox doesn't have processes per se.   For technical information, browse here.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Daphisto on February 07, 2004, 05:06:00 AM
QUOTE (adam1972 @ Jan 9 2004, 07:23 PM)
This is what worked for me... I'm also using the PBL and evox BTW.
1. I created 2 folders in my C drive.
a. One "PBL" folder with the PBL "default.xbe" inside that particular folder.
b. Another folder named "EVOX" with my -fonts signed "default.xbe" inside this one (this is not the PBL default.xbe but the one that comes with Free-Xevox).

2. I added these 2 Items and Actions to my "evox.ini"
CODE
   
Item "Deactivate PBL",@215    
Item "Activate PBL",@216    

[Action_15]    
Info "Turning OFF PBL"  
Warning "Turning OFF PBL.. That okay?"  
Progress "Turning it OFF now........"  
copy "c:/EVOX/default.xbe" "c:/default.xbe"    

[Action_16]    
Info "Turning ON PBL"  
Warning "Turning ON PBL.. That okay?"  
Progress "Turning it ON now........"  
copy "c:/PBL/default.xbe" "c:/default.xbe"



NOW i can turn PBL on or off whenever I need to. I tried the renaming but that ended up corrupting my file on 3 seperate occasions  blink.gif  .. Now I can play CS without a problem  beerchug.gif

Did you have to patch the Crimson Skies default.xbe for this to work?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: oblox on February 07, 2004, 08:08:00 AM
Tested on Tony Haw Underground

Still doesn't work looks like this game checks the hard bios to the softbios (the one resident in ram) - deduced since it works on hardware modded x-boxes
Well it runs just not if you save and reload your save (crashes)

However tested on other games and works!!!!

This means that the audio patch everone is using does more than most realise
It not only replaces the key in Ram with the audio key it also eliminates the media checks from the x-box too!!!!

This means you don't have to run any additional bios to run evox or games as long as you sign them with what ever key is in the patch (in this case the audio key since this is the one the audio patch creator programmed in to replace the M$ original)

Just a shame none knows a jot about the audio patch code, if you could alter it to make it 'keyless' or even to use the original M$ key (not that anyone knows it) you wouldn't have to sign anything!!! (except for emulators and apps created by other people - this is if you carn't make it keyless)

PS all audio signed games will still run under a modded x-box (i.e. 4977 bios etc)
it takes a few secs so why not just sign them for now

Welcome to a untested but seemingly universal way round M$ changing the hardware - the original bios is always used so no more hardware control problems

Oh and this is why the code was obfuscated by the original creator as it's more powerful than we ever knew!

Thanks to the finders and testers of this patch!!!!! (sorry bad with remembering names lol)
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: oblox on February 07, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
QUOTE (Discwizard @ Dec 8 2003, 01:59 AM)
All I did to get it to work is sign the default.xbe with xbedump using the '-font' command. Then I burnt it on DVD-R. I insert the game into my xbox, then power it off. Then I start the xbox back up. The xbox reboots twice (and NEVER more than that) then the game starts. I have not had a problem with the game since. I am now on the third level of the game, and it has played beautifully. I am not sure how this would work for audio hack users though....sorry.

If this is true haven't you then discovered a way to fix the infinate loops problem???

Just take a copy of the M$ dashboard you have on there rename it default.xbe sign it with -font and stick it on an x-box disc.

Krayzie is right I forgot the Xbox asks for the time before it loads anything else sad.gif

EDIT!!!!
Hang on... doesn't the x-box just load xboxdash.xbe when the clock needs to be set? in which case can you not just sign it with -font and have it load?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: krayzie on February 07, 2004, 01:34:00 PM
QUOTE
If this is true haven't you then discovered a way to fix the infinate loops problem???

I don't think this has anything to do with the clock loop. Its just about making a game run with just the fonts without phoenix kickin in a new bios.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: oblox on February 07, 2004, 03:01:00 PM
One more thing if you wish to use this and run pbl from evox the I found it wouldn't work if you have IGR turned on in evox.

However some games themselves reset back to evox when you eject the disc anyway.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Quixote on February 07, 2004, 03:48:00 PM
QUOTE
Tested on Tony Haw Underground

Still doesn't work looks like this game checks the hard bios to the softbios (the one resident in ram) - deduced since it works on hardware modded x-boxes
Well it runs just not if you save and reload your save (crashes)


THUG does not check hard bios vs. soft bios, I have run it successfully on a PBL box... It does, however, take a look at your st.db file (with the intention of allowing you to use ripped soundtracks in the game)

A few weeks ago, I was demonstrating the audio hack to a friend using my modded box, and I neglected to remove the hack afterward. At the time Tony Hawk was all I played regularly and it stopped functioning, so I became convinced that my mod had trashed my box, seeing as it wouldn't boot with the mod off and the original disc instead of an HD backup. After a few hours I sorted out the real source of the problem and deleted my st.db file, now it works fine.

If you are attempting to run THUG and you have at one point had an audio hack on your box, try deleting /e/tdata/fffe0000/music/st.db and running THUG again.

This may or may not be the problem in some other games, provided that they are soundtrack aware... during this time I also noted that Tony Hawk 4 would not play, but I didn't deal with any other of my games until I deleted my st.db.

EDIT: Just to clarify, this was the discless st.db file, so I am unclear as to whether this was a result of a cracked ST.DB in general, or because this one contained an invalid soundtrack.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: oblox on February 07, 2004, 06:29:00 PM
I want your babies!!!

joke

It works well poo on me... lol
I'd never of thought of that since the game loads okay at the start... sneaky buggers lol

Many many many many many many thanks
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: evilwise on February 18, 2004, 04:30:00 PM
I'm trying to create a menu option in evox to swap in/out PBL. I'm using Mordenkainen's audio exploit so PBL is e:/PBL/P.xbe and I've creaded two subdirectories, e:/PBL/PBL (for the PBL version of P.xbe) and e:/PBL/EVOX (For the evox version of P.xbe)

I've added this information to the evox.ini that stays in the e:/PBL directory:

Item "Rectivate PBL",@216

[Action_16]

Info "Turning ON PBL"  
Warning "Turning ON PBL.. That okay?"  
Progress "Turning it ON now........"  
copy "e:/PBL/PBL/P.xbe" "e:/PBL/P.xbe"

As well as a similar but reversed version in the evox.ini that stays in the default dashboard directory (e:/mxm/)

The option appears in the menu just fine and when I select it it does the confirmation, displays the progress, and says OK at the end BUT the files don't get moved. Can someone clue me in as to what's wrong with my syntax?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: xboxwannabe on November 26, 2003, 01:47:00 PM
ok only 2 games that dont work with exploits i hear you say .but last week it was only 1 !are exploiters gonna be left in the dark with new games while mod chippers scoff at our cheapness .A glimmer of hope would be to know why these games dont work with PBL

Is it a memory conflict ? if so coincidence or delibrate ?

Are The games Patching the bios before executing using exploit tricks against us ??

who knows

answers on a postcard please

:blink:  
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Haruno on November 26, 2003, 01:57:00 PM
as long as you have PBL installed you have the exact same powers as hardmodded xboxes do...at least you SHOULD...u don't have to sign anything with xbedump anymore...PBL is just like a mod chip that loads a bios...

the only thing we don't have is the other abilities a mod chip is the ability to just swap hard drives on the fly...and some other obvious features...

when it comes to running games...it's all the same
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: xboxwannabe on November 26, 2003, 02:01:00 PM
i would be glad if that were the case but its not !

Any 1 feel free to correct me who have either of these games working by posting there soft mod configuration


Please......glimmer of hope  :uhh:  
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Haruno on November 26, 2003, 03:31:00 PM
are you sure modchipped can play? if moddchipped can't play that means u just need to find a crack for it, i reccomend getting an ED2k program like emule or edonkey and going on the forums for sharereactor http://forum.sharereactor.com
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Jagosix on November 26, 2003, 07:20:00 PM
QUOTE (xboxwannabe @ Nov 26 2003, 10:11 PM)
ok only 2 games that dont work with exploits i hear you say .but last week it was only 1 !are exploiters gonna be left in the dark with new games while mod chippers scoff at our cheapness .A glimmer of hope would be to know why these games dont work with PBL

Is it a memory conflict ? if so coincidence or delibrate ?

Are The games Patching the bios before executing using exploit tricks against us ??

who knows

answers on a postcard please

blink.gif

Hello smile.gif , I'll have 2 dissagree with u on at least 1 of the mentioned tittles. I've gotten XIII to work by using PBL 1.3.5 with the new fixed 4979_bfm for font exploits.  Give it a try it worked on mine. BTW it's just a matter of time b4 the font exploit gets better or on the same level as a hard mod smile.gif.


u can learn something from everybody smile.gif.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on November 26, 2003, 08:02:00 PM
huzzah!
i was looking forward to this game... now i will rent it!
anyway....
yes it is just a matter of time, but we only have until we/everyone else becomes uninterested in the xbox... the end is near
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: digitalman42 on November 27, 2003, 12:25:00 AM
has anyone tryed crimson skies with the new 4979_bfm exploit?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: qurious63ss on November 26, 2003, 11:56:00 PM
Exploits? I have no issues running crimson skies from my hdd. If that's what you guy mean by exploits.

Evox 3921
X2 4977
X2 Pro 2.2
Seagate 120G hdd
dvd2xbox 4.5
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: digitalman42 on November 27, 2003, 12:49:00 AM
no I meant with a softmod, also I have a version 1.0 xbox, should I upgrade to 4979 ???
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Piracy the Clown on November 27, 2003, 12:21:00 AM
No,dude..well i guess you could,Id just use 4977. huh.gif
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: digitalman42 on November 27, 2003, 01:16:00 AM
yeah but isn't the 4979 better? or no?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on November 27, 2003, 08:38:00 AM
just look at the change logs for the x2 bioses, i looks like all they did is add 1.4/5 support and mayne recoded some features
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: digitalman42 on November 27, 2003, 09:22:00 AM
actually I think it says some games dont crash now that did before.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Atreyu on November 27, 2003, 11:03:00 PM
Haruno: i suggest you do some more research and testing before you make a claim like that. it is 'well known' that some games will not run with PBL exploit. Hopefully these things will be fixed in the near future.. but i haven't seen a lot of development from PBL lately.. does anyone know if they are still doing stuff? or are we having to see if there just a lucky bios that might come out to fix it?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: ar_156 on November 28, 2003, 04:58:00 AM
I tested Crimson Skies with 4817 Bios (EvoxD6), it only works the first level; with 4977 Bios it doesn't boot neither with 4979.06.

Interesting is Medal of Honor Rising Sun only worked with 4977, and Matrix only with 4817, but now both work with 4979.06 Bios.

Keep going on Bioses testing...
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: xboxwannabe on November 29, 2003, 09:40:00 AM
omg !! morons this entire post was about games not running of exploits not mod chips.. please im sick of those with mod chips saying " i can run it " this is the dashboard exploit forum not modchip

i tried 4979bfm still hangs just after the opening intro ... the guy who said it worked on this bios could you tell me which font/ver xbox you have ???


any 1 else manage to get xiii or crimson skies working with PBL /fonts ???

Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on November 29, 2003, 09:46:00 AM
yes, i am playing xii right now with reloaded fonts(or bigfonts, not sure),ava, pbl1.3.5 and 4979bfm
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: ddaddy on November 29, 2003, 05:56:00 PM
QUOTE (digitalman42 @ Nov 27 2003, 09:40 AM)
yeah but isn't the 4979 better? or no?

I couldnt load the training missions in counter strike until i started using 4979, so i guess youd say its better.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Mad_Gouki on November 29, 2003, 06:11:00 PM
im playing xiii as we speak, it needs a fixed xbe... stop talking out your ass dude.
if you want to put down the exploit, keep it out of here.  the exploit is pertty much as good as the chip, but people like you want to keep saying its shit...

and yes, i am using phoenix bios loader (if you cant figure out which one im using, look towards my sig... if you till dont get it, click), and yes, pbl gives you every feature of a modchip... so like i said, stop talking out your ass.  i usually try to be nice, but the ignorance of some people just infuriates me (not just you xboxwanabe... others too)
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: dragor on November 30, 2003, 01:25:00 AM
i couldn't get crimson skies to work either.
but then again i couldn't get ETM to work either.

burnt them on to DVD and both are working.
i know this doesn't help those without dvd writers.

i wonder if anyone has tried this with the M7 bios??
I know i havent and i've been using the 4977 that i used initially when audio exploiting my xbox.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: death trap on November 30, 2003, 02:31:00 AM
Use the new dvd2xbox to patch the xbe's.  Both games run fine after that.
setup:
audio pbl 1.3 x2 4977.  
Me thinks a new media check is on the lose!
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: bbjk on November 30, 2003, 11:41:00 AM
it's probably depend on your retail bios and most likely dashboard version and kernel too...

like my true crime froze everytime in the intro screen while other can get it boot with the same expliot that i'm using...
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: bbjk on November 30, 2003, 01:11:00 PM
hmm... so the expliot method do have some restrictions... biggrin.gifs...
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: death trap on December 01, 2003, 12:48:00 AM
QUOTE (xboxwannabe @ Nov 30 2003, 09:10 PM)
just tried with crimson skies with DVD2XBOX still the same hangs on loading next level ,you sure you got crimson skies working ??

yep it works fine i used the original pal version to dump it onto my xbox, it plays every time.  ive not tryed it from a dvd-r yet

xiii works fine from hdd + dvd-r.

xbox 1.1
smasung dvd
maxtor 40g
pbl 1.3 audio hack
x2 4977 bfm


pbl 1.3.5 is more trouble than its worth, only use it if you have one of the bugs that it fixes.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: digitalman42 on December 01, 2003, 10:24:00 AM
Hmm so in order to play this game with my softmodded xbox I have to use the audio hack, meaning I have to bootup and hit all kinds of stupid stuff on my gamepad?? is there a way to do a multi boot? I dont wanna have to hit ten things to bootup every time.  im confused, is there a non hassle way to do this?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: jokerbird on December 01, 2003, 11:25:00 AM
jeez - sign this, sign that.  what a waste.  Read Read Read.  I have run into only one game that would not work with the softmod exploits some crappy Matrix game - it used file naming conventions that were too long for the xbox file system - patched it, and it worked. However this did not fix the games suckiness, it still sucks.

As long as your Phoenix Bios loader is signed and proper rc4 key, you DO NOT NEED TO SIGN XBE'S.  This is the easiest way - use a signed copy of PBL. then no more habibi or the like

Some games do lock up and do not load.  You will be amazed at what turning off in game reset does for you. Also be smart and use a BFM BIOS that has the media check flag built into it.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: digitalman42 on December 01, 2003, 09:42:00 PM
joker crimson skies doesn't work with PBL period.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: pcween on December 07, 2003, 06:43:00 AM
since the last reply is rather old, is there any new development regarding crimson skies on softmodded xboxes??
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: warbeast on December 07, 2003, 10:28:00 AM
i got it working on my v1.5 pal with pbl1.3.5i and the m7.bfm but since then i've flashed the tsops with 4979 biggrin.gif
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Discwizard on December 07, 2003, 03:59:00 PM
All I did to get it to work is sign the default.xbe with xbedump using the '-font' command. Then I burnt it on DVD-R. I insert the game into my xbox, then power it off. Then I start the xbox back up. The xbox reboots twice (and NEVER more than that) then the game starts. I have not had a problem with the game since. I am now on the third level of the game, and it has played beautifully. I am not sure how this would work for audio hack users though....sorry.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: ddaddy on December 07, 2003, 04:01:00 PM
audio hack users would simply sign it with -audio, but i think you miss the point. The problems arise when using Phoenix Bios Loader which you mustnt be usin as your signing games.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: warbeast on December 07, 2003, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE (ddaddy @ Dec 8 2003, 01:01 AM)
audio hack users would simply sign it with -audio, but i think you miss the point. The problems arise when using Phoenix Bios Loader which you mustnt be usin as your signing games.

yes if you want to do it with the font hack your need to move pbl to your apps folder still signed then replace it with a signed evox dash

then when you boot the font hack it will take you to evox and not pbl. your be able to boot any xbe that is signed from evox and if you want to boot anything thats not signed you can still load pbl from the apps folder in evox.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Discwizard on December 07, 2003, 06:11:00 PM
I DO have PBL installed, but I signed this particular game with the font hack because it was not working with PBL. If you have a game in your drive when you start your xbox, it will start BEFORE PBL loads (Provided it is a signed default xbe-whether it is MS signed, or signed for your hack) So, for this one game, YES, I signed the default.xbe, if that is what it takes to play it with my softmod. All the other games that I have backed up have worked perfectly with PBL, and are unsigned. I just wanted to play my backup, and help the other guys here play their backups any way I could.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: ddaddy on December 08, 2003, 02:52:00 AM
QUOTE
If you have a game in your drive when you start your xbox, it will start BEFORE PBL loads (Provided it is a signed default xbe-whether it is MS signed, or signed for your hack)


If you boot with a game in your drive, it has to be an original  uhh.gif

The font exploit doesnt load if a game is in the drive, unless you flash the tsop.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Discwizard on December 08, 2003, 01:47:00 PM
Well. DDaddy, try it with the font hack, and sign the default.xbe of the game with the font option in xbedump. You will see that it does, indeed work. smile.gif
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Discwizard on December 08, 2003, 03:04:00 PM
Oh, yeah, one thing that I forgot to mention.....I noticed that the xbox will reboot once or twice with the font-hack signed game in it, then boot. Well, once in a while, the xbox will not reboot more than once, then attempt to load the game. Whenever this happens, the game does NOT boot, but stays at a black screen. What do you suppose would cause this?? It rarely happens, but I thought I should mention it, since I thought it was weird.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: Discwizard on December 08, 2003, 04:08:00 PM
Yes, Warbeast, I decided to try to load PBL as an app, with just evox loading through the font hack at startup. I figured that since I had already font-signed the default.xbe, I might as well give it a shot, and yes, it worked perfect. Thanks btw, there is now at least one sure-fire way to play your backup of Crimson Skies......really good news.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: pholly on December 08, 2003, 08:01:00 PM
When crimson skies was released i had the same problem and thought to try signing the default.xbe but never did, now i wish i had biggrin.gif thanx a lot to whoever actually tried it, it makes me think my original thinking was correct the game wiped the ram where the bios is loaded by pbl which is why i thought this would work. Good job to all involved beerchug.gif
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: PedrosPad on December 09, 2003, 12:05:00 AM
QUOTE (ddaddy @ Dec 8 2003, 12:52 PM)
QUOTE
If you have a game in your drive when you start your xbox, it will start BEFORE PBL loads (Provided it is a signed default xbe-whether it is MS signed, or signed for your hack)


If you boot with a game in your drive, it has to be an original  uhh.gif

The font exploit doesnt load if a game is in the drive, unless you flash the tsop.
Yeah I saw this and was a bit confused....

Not likely but, I wonder if the Dashboard fonts are loaded on the way to the Error 21 SOD (Screen-Of-Death)?  Or, alternatively, after a few retries of the DVD-ROM, the BIOS falls back to booting the Dashboard.  Loading the fonts would patch the BIOS signature and try to launch default.xbe from the current-working-directory, in this case the DVD-ROM.

QUOTE (Discwizard @ Dec 8 2003, 01:59 AM)
All I did to get it to work is sign the default.xbe with xbedump using the '-font' command. Then I burnt it on DVD-R. I insert the game into my xbox, then power it off. Then I start the xbox back up. The xbox reboots twice (and NEVER more than that) then the game starts. I have not had a problem with the game since. I am now on the third level of the game, and it has played beautifully. I am not sure how this would work for audio hack users though....sorry.
Discwizard's experiences kind'a support the theory.  The reboots sound suspiciously like the font-clock loop type symptoms (the fonts struggling to get going).

(Just trying to match the reported symptoms.)
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: []V[]nm6687 on December 09, 2003, 11:38:00 AM
pedros, i think the xbox is booting the -font signed game because when you insert the game, it takes you to the dash to tell you that its not a valid disc or whatever, and this then loads the fonts.  and also, whenever i turn on my box after leaving a game in there and letting the "invalid disc" window come up on the msdash, after i try to launch the audio hack, the xbox resets.  so here is my conclusion:

- when an invalid disc is inserted in the drive prior to bootup, the audio hack will not work the first time (maybe the font too, i dont know)
- this non-ms-signed disc will cause the "invalid disc" window to come up, thus loading the fonts and rebooting it, then when the "invalid disc" window comes up again, the font hack is launched

people say that their box reboots a couple times when a game is in there so this might be why

then again, i could be (and probably totally am) extremely wrong.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: jerryjang on December 09, 2003, 06:04:00 PM
I have Xbox v1.2 with BigFont25 font exploit, PBL 1.3 + X2_4977_BFM_1M
with EvolutionX 3752

My Xbox can't boot from CD/DVD media if I powered up with Disc in tray.
But when I tried to run Crimson Skies and use Evox_D6_EF_BFM_256k instead.
My Xbox can direct boot from Disc, so the Crimson Skies run perfect(Level 1). I tried several CD/DVD Discs and they direct boot and run perfect.

I think : the boot sequences of Xbox
1. When power on with an origin game disc, MS BIOS->check Disc Tray-> Verify
Signed code->run game.
2. When power on with an backup game disc, MS BIOS->check Disc Tray-> Verify
Signed code->hang up and can't run default.xbe.
3. When power on without disc, MS BIOS->check Disc Tray-> Run xboxdash.xbe
->font exploit->load PBL->load BFM BIOS->load EvolutionX

But when I change to Evox_D6_EF_BFM_256k the boot sequences change to:
Power on with an backup disc, MS BIOS->check Disc Tray-> Run xboxdash.xbe
->font exploit->load PBL->load BFM BIOS->Auto run backup game disc
(in Evox.ini I set all autorun off)

Can anyone explain this?
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: ddaddy on December 09, 2003, 07:06:00 PM
Did you play past level 1? I think thats where people have the problems.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: dragor on December 11, 2003, 07:14:00 AM
if anyone had a look around they would notice a patched xbe is available that works with PBL. for XIII anyways.

and in case your wondering i'm using the audio exploit not the font exploit.

i would take it that it is due to a new media check being introiduced which in turn is bad news for the soft modded exploiters.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: digitalman42 on December 11, 2003, 09:16:00 PM
I have Fonts B&E Reloaded, and Phoenix Bios, so if I copy my original Crimson Skies DVD and sign it with Xbedump, it will work off the backup?? cause my original doesn't even boot.
Title: Crimson Skies And Now Xiii
Post by: bigleen on December 14, 2003, 03:18:00 AM
Im trying to get XIII to work on my font exploit..evox 3935 with pbl 1.3.5i and the evoxM7 bios but i cant get the bios to load..it come up with loads of text and hangs on calculation calculating 2bl entry point...do i have to set the rc4 keys and eeprom?? ive heard old about this but i have no idea where to get them from..I tried the D6 bios and Xiii booted but it hangs just after the opening sequence to the first stage and the multiplayer game