Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on September 28, 2003, 05:23:00 PM
and how the hell are you supposed to prevent it?
i just dun wanna get caught in one, they sound like a pain in the ass...
Post by: afon on September 28, 2003, 05:30:00 PM
What happends is; when your xbox gets un-plugged for a certain amount of time, the clock inside the xbox looses time. Then, when you reboot...a message pops up and asks you to set the time. Well, here lies the problem: The message displayed uses the fonts YOUR EXPLOITING. The reason it doesnt want to correctly overflow and load the dash is unknown, but we know it doesnt like to overflow when the clock is dead. The bigfonts have had success cutting down the number people affected by this, but to some its still an unconvienince, and for some it can be deadly. SO DONT USE THE FONT EXPLOIT, USE THE AUDIO EXPLOIT. If you need these files, i might be able to help you..PM me.
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on September 28, 2003, 07:16:00 PM
how do i migrate from the clock exploit to audio?
Post by: Lukey on September 29, 2003, 12:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (sabwafare @ Sep 29 2003, 05:47 AM) |
| Hmmm, Didn't realize there was a clock exploit.... Anyways, if you want to be sure you won't get the clock loop, just update your ms dash with unreal tournament. I am not sure what version of the dash unreal updates to but I do know that this version is loop free. Stick with the font hack, audio hacks are kinda lame IMO. |
dont think thats correct.. there IS NO fix for the clock loop for everyone at this time
Post by: stanneh on September 29, 2003, 01:49:00 AM
Post by: sabwafare on September 29, 2003, 06:56:00 AM
. All I am saying is I use that version of the dash and I have never looped. I have shipped xboxes modded in this way and they didn't loop. I have left my box unplugged overnight and it didn't loop. Go back to the modchip forums if you are going to call us noobs ok dick?
Post by: Mordenkainen on September 29, 2003, 07:09:00 AM
I would say that you have been lucky, you probably have the loop but the fonts recover it for you.
It is not always the case though. My final decision to switch to the audio exploit (and make my package) involves a sad story about bringing my X over a friends house and sitting there embarassed, as my "Awsome new hacked machine, that can do everything under the sun, and once I show you this you will rush out and get one!" not only didn't do anything under the sun, but wouldn't even boot.
Needless to say, my friend did NOT rush out and get one! What they did do is sit there laughing at the fact that MS is even capable of crashing on a console system! (nevermind that I had a big hand in that!
)Once I got it back home I let it loop for 2 days before finally admitting defeat and restoring the thing back to virgin.
At this point, if you are worried that the X may be denied power for more than a couple of hours, just use the audio exploit. Sure it doesn't boot up hacked, but it's not that hard to invoke, and doesn't have any chance of the loop.
On the other hand, if you know you will NEVER unplug your X, then go for the font exploit!
Morden.
Post by: stanneh on September 29, 2003, 07:25:00 AM
Post by: scooby_dooby on September 29, 2003, 10:00:00 AM
i have yet to se a post from someone with a live-enabled dash, and a ethernet connection that could not get out of the clock loop.
anyways, my advice is this, try the font ecploit, test the loop, if you come out of the loop that's it, you're good and you'll always be good. If you don't ever come out then hotswap again, restore your old hd, and use the audio exploit.
Post by: WisdomWolf on September 29, 2003, 11:02:00 AM
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on September 29, 2003, 03:16:00 PM
stanneh: it could be possible that UC (its unreal championship, not tournement) is a "vaccine" for the clock loop with what ever fonts he is using because the fonts may have been designed as "compatible" with that dash version...
oh yeah... so how do i switch from fonts to audio?
Post by: mjar81 on September 29, 2003, 08:08:00 PM
lol
audio exploits suck major @$$!
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on September 29, 2003, 08:16:00 PM
what the hell is wrong with you guys?
at least make a freaking list on why you hate the other method so freaking much!
ohyeah and post it
...
pros are cool too...
Post by: mjar81 on September 29, 2003, 08:19:00 PM
- I have a font exploit
- i don't know how to do an audio exploit
- the new movie "Underworld" is totally awesome
- font hacks are cool
- so are ninjas!
- i'm a poop-head
- my font hack works great and i'm happy with it... why mess with a good thing?
i hope you all see my point.
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on September 29, 2003, 08:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (mjar81) |
| i'm a poop-head |
a rebutle anyone?
Post by: mjar81 on September 29, 2003, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: stanneh on September 30, 2003, 04:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (scooby_dooby @ Sep 29 2003, 07:00 PM) |
| i think what sabwafare might be talking about, is that with a live enabled dash and live ethernet connection, the clock loop does seem to be solved. i have yet to se a post from someone with a live-enabled dash, and a ethernet connection that could not get out of the clock loop. anyways, my advice is this, try the font ecploit, test the loop, if you come out of the loop that's it, you're good and you'll always be good. If you don't ever come out then hotswap again, restore your old hd, and use the audio exploit. |
your a liar or you havent looked becouse it just dont work for everyone it did it to me in testing and wouldnt reboot when plugged in via network wouldnt work on my friends 1.0 box just wouldnt come back from anything and wouldnt come out of the loop on a friends 1.3 this way i have a 1.2 tested on my own box every font exploit and tested under different versions of msdashboards to look at these so call fixes as real fixes is just damned ignorant your all dreaming i know it does comeo ut for some but rofl half of them are probably exagerating and the other half are just LUCKY but they all suffer from the clock loop its unavoidable you fuck your msdashboard up for the MS bios to load it so u cant change the clock from ms dash reallly good hackers have tried fixing it from within font exploit but it didnt work.
font exploit = good work bad side effect.
audio exploit = flawless.
Post by: jeks on September 30, 2003, 06:21:00 AM
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on September 30, 2003, 06:24:00 AM
i guess i am one of the lucky ones
Post by: scooby_dooby on September 30, 2003, 11:19:00 AM
| QUOTE (stanneh @ Sep 30 2003, 01:37 PM) | ||
your a liar or you havent looked becouse it just dont work for everyone it did it to me in testing and wouldnt reboot when plugged in via network wouldnt work on my friends 1.0 box just wouldnt come back from anything and wouldnt come out of the loop on a friends 1.3 this way i have a 1.2 tested on my own box every font exploit and tested under different versions of msdashboards to look at these so call fixes as real fixes is just damned ignorant your all dreaming i know it does comeo ut for some but rofl half of them are probably exagerating and the other half are just LUCKY but they all suffer from the clock loop its unavoidable you fuck your msdashboard up for the MS bios to load it so u cant change the clock from ms dash reallly good hackers have tried fixing it from within font exploit but it didnt work. font exploit = good work bad side effect. audio exploit = flawless. |
why the fuck would I lie? maybe you should've got off your ass and posted your experience in the thread that was specifically trying to figure out clock loop conditions, but you didn't so EAT ME.
gettin tired of your bitchy little attitude, fuck off! no-one cares if you're in a bad mood, go cry somewhere else.
Post by: stanneh on September 30, 2003, 11:46:00 AM
"i have yet to se a post from someone with a live-enabled dash, and a ethernet connection that could not get out of the clock loop."
READ the fuckin forum fool everybody has tried that and it works for less than a hand full of peaple only when you reading back also notice how many utter noobs like yourself i have helped i know what im talking about i have been helping here since way before someone mentioned to someone who told you about the font exploit.
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on September 30, 2003, 12:05:00 PM
anyway since the fonts seem to be working flawlessly for me i dont think i will switch until an awesome live game comes around the curb (hl2 or halo2?) but i will do all my modding for friends with audio, seems easy... do you need an audio disk to use (not install) audio exploit... eject fix works, right?
Post by: NerdENerd on September 30, 2003, 04:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (jeks @ Sep 30 2003, 03:21 PM) |
| I mod A LOT of Xbox with softmod (bigfonts25, pbl 1.3 with x2-4977) , WORKS FINE ON ALL XBOX , nobody of my firends have the clockloop problem! I unplug my xbox really often, and when I boot it set the date to july 4th .... WORKS VERY FINE |
I agree with this, I have done 14 Xboxes and none of them have ever looped. I have tried to make them loop but they always have the date set to 4th of July after being unplugged for a few hours. I am sure that the problem people are having is due to the way they have it setup.