Post by: Atreyu on August 01, 2003, 11:21:00 AM
ive heard reports that live *might* check the hdd for files..
does anyone know any facts?
Post by: mohawk23 on August 01, 2003, 11:24:00 AM
Post by: Berserker999 on August 01, 2003, 03:38:00 PM
Post by: warbeast on August 01, 2003, 04:18:00 PM
in the old days when we didnt have phoenix or pogo pin lpc mods there was a little chip called enigmah had 29 solder points every one loved it until live came out because it booted to xboxdash.xbe not evoxdash.xbe this ment you had to rename you evoxdash to xboxdash and xboxdash to msdash it worked ok untill live came out then when the first dash update hit the xbox loads of people got there xbox c drives messt up as the update would update the xboxdash which was evoxdash this was not ms trying to stop mods it only happed cos people renamed files in the c drive so far all ms has done is bios checks and i think as long as you dont rename files in the c drive your be ok we went though all this what will ms do thing months ago lets not start it up again
Post by: spIdeZ on August 01, 2003, 04:52:00 PM
Post by: cdcopier on August 01, 2003, 08:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (spIdeZ @ Aug 2 2003, 01:52 AM) |
| Sentences. Use them |
LOL
Post by: Viva Revolution on August 02, 2003, 03:21:00 AM
| QUOTE (Atreyu @ Aug 1 2003, 06:37 AM) |
| If I hard boot a game, (ie press eject, insert original game disc, before it loads phoneix) and it boots the game without loading phoneix at all. am i still able to play on LIVE without getting banned? |
This is one of the questions that has yet to be answered properly.
From my understanding it seems clear that if you put an original DVD game in the drive when the box is turned on then *all* of the Font + Phoenix code will -not- be executed.. so your running from your original BIOS; so far so good.
So your clear for the moment .. now, the question is does XBLive do any further testing as some have rightly/wrongly suggested by scanning your C: folder? If you take a look at your xboxdash.xbe it should be the *original* dashboard (you more than likely have a 'patched' version named "newdash.xbe" for booting into from evox) .. so if XBLive does any testing its going to find that you have a) an *original* BIOS loaded that came with your XBox and b) a *proper* xboxdash.xbe [for live] ...
Conclusion .. I would presume XBLive would work without any probelms.. and stories that have been going around are either based on "mod-chip" experiences and/or shadowed (Phoenix) BIOS's being in memory.
Post by: Atreyu on August 02, 2003, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: scooby_dooby on August 05, 2003, 11:31:00 AM
come on people can we get some real answers? You have a non-pirated game, booting from your disc drive. Since the hack isn;t executed there is no problem right?
This is a question that really needs to be answered...
Post by: kramus on August 05, 2003, 01:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (scooby_dooby @ Aug 6 2003, 05:31 AM) |
| This is a question that really needs to be answered... |
Do you want the question answered? Ask MS. I'm serious. Nobody here can give you the answer knowing that it is 100% correct. MS can change their 'routines' for finding hacks/modded boxes at anytime and may search for other things that they are not currently doing. It is impossible to predict what they will do in the future. The safest and foolproof method of playing Live is to actually own 2 Xbox's, one for hacking, one for Live; it really is your safest option. Better to be safe then sorry, right?
If i'm wrong, tell me/flame me/whatever. Thanks.
Post by: scooby_dooby on August 05, 2003, 02:19:00 PM
basically, what I'm hearing is no-one has actually tested this, so all we get is a bunch of guessing. I have yet to hear a single person say, yes I've been banned from XBL when I booted from a non-pirated disc.
Post by: scooby_dooby on August 05, 2003, 02:23:00 PM
when a game is booted the hack is not run at all, right?
If that's the case, then what is the difference between someone with their mod-chip turned off, and someone with the font hack who booted a game?
and please don't mention files, or harddrive space, because it seems obvious that at this point in time MS is checking neither of these, or at least they're not doing anything about it. And if they REALLY wanted to they could ban all types of exploits, including mod-chips, so please no more "what if's" or "MS could do..."
Post by: Viva Revolution on August 05, 2003, 03:19:00 PM
I just can't see there being a problem at-all if you boot from an original game.. your basically using your XB as you did before you had any of the "exploits" installed.
The only way MS can tell is if they scan the drive.. and this kind of test is not the best way forward for them as the potential is there to run into problems in the future; providing they do the general things such as BIOS+dashboard and you pass both of those tests then lets presume everything is okay.
I dare say there are a lot of people who are happily playing XBLive on exploited systems.. but fearful of saying anything incase M$ gets on their case.
Post by: Mordenkainen on August 05, 2003, 04:43:00 PM
If we don't try to plan for the worst NOW, even if they are not yet doing it, well have down time later.
Trust me, I have been looking into hacks on some other devices that get TV for some time... (Not anymore... got some nasty letters!) and the best practice is... PLAN AHEAD... Sure it works now, but the day it doesn't, your banned! Don't screw with this stuff. Look for an alternative option.
I think I may have found one for anyone with 007/MA, but we'll see!
Morden.
Post by: enigmatl on August 18, 2003, 12:08:00 AM
Post by: k-pax on August 18, 2003, 08:03:00 AM
now just find a way to switch between hdd. (is there a way??)
Post by: mastafunk on August 18, 2003, 11:31:00 AM
Any takers?