Post by: powerben5000 on July 03, 2003, 06:24:00 PM
Post by: woo on July 03, 2003, 06:33:00 PM
The code is there to play with. Right now, it only does Linux, but with a bit of playing it can be used to run absolutely everythings.... apps/emulators/games....... you name it. This exploit only needs to be run once to install too.
Post by: itsjustme on July 03, 2003, 06:38:00 PM
Post by: sox007 on July 03, 2003, 06:41:00 PM
Post by: XBLamer on July 03, 2003, 06:42:00 PM
You can also use xbox live with backed up games or hacks or whatever (M$ will fix this in the next 24 hours if they have not already done so).
Post by: nautiazn85 on July 03, 2003, 06:56:00 PM
It's the modchip that allows unsigned programs like EVOX to run so that you can format the new HD WITHOUT a dashboard hack.
With this new hack, I don't think you can prepare a new drive without a PC.
Post by: johnney5 on July 03, 2003, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: krawhitham on July 03, 2003, 07:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (XBLamer @ Jul 4 2003, 03:42 AM) |
| You use 007 to load the new font files. Then you are free to do what you want. You know longer need to flash the TSOP to run backups or anything else you want. You can also use xbox live with backed up games or hacks or whatever (M$ will fix this in the next 24 hours if they have not already done so). |
If they do fix it, what stops someone from using the 007 hack and coping and older version of the dashboard and all related files over M$s "new" fixed dashboard
Post by: powerben5000 on July 03, 2003, 07:13:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Anybody ever thought about how difficult it would be to actually swap an HD without a modchip? Once you swap to a new drive, you don't have a dashboard... how are you going to use the new exploit? |
I suppose you could still do a TSOP flash, but then you'd have to open the box to do that...kind of defeats the purpose...still a very interesting hack though.
I'm gonna sit back and watch this carefully, I wonder how MS will react or if they will do anything at all? .
This seems too big to ignore. A regular Pandora's Box if you will...
Post by: emmpee on July 03, 2003, 07:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (krawhitham @ Jul 4 2003, 04:06 AM) |
| If they do fix it, what stops someone from using the 007 hack and coping and older version of the dashboard and all related files over M$s "new" fixed dashboard |
See, the 'fixed' dashboard won't let you use the exploit. That's why it will have earned the term 'fixed'.
Post by: LinksAwakening on July 03, 2003, 07:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (PENTIUM75 @ Jul 4 2003, 03:18 AM) |
How do these people get this smart? anyways, this is quite the hack and a pound in the ass for M$, in the near future it should be 007 or mechasault hack copy fontsound files and evox-> ms dashboard hack -> apps and backed up games. I almost feel sorry for M$, but then I remember they're money grubbing whores  and they deserve it. |
Keep in mind this could also hurt to good, honest game developers too... if too many n00bs look at this as an "easy" way to pirate games... (although not much easier than a modchip)...
Post by: krawhitham on July 03, 2003, 07:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (emmpee @ Jul 4 2003, 04:20 AM) | ||
See, the 'fixed' dashboard won't let you use the exploit. That's why it will have earned the term 'fixed'. |
how is a dashboard update going to stop the 007 hack?
Post by: Crypto on July 03, 2003, 07:49:00 PM
- Crypto
Post by: afon on July 03, 2003, 07:49:00 PM
Post by: midgetfighter on July 03, 2003, 08:55:00 PM
Quote"I can already see the influx of n00bs to the scene asking how to open the .rar files for the pirated games they downloaded...
"QuoteId just try searching for this forum for answers on the 007 and mechassult hacks first and go from there
I see this as a bad thing, M$ is going to be pissed that everyone who owns an xbox now has the potetial to pirate their games even if they can only fit 2 on their 8gb harddrive. I still prefer the old modchip better than flashing the tsop, Im also not look forward to mandatory dashboard updates if M$ do decide to incorporate this It will just be a pain in the Ass. One upside I can see to this is more people becoming interested in the scene (hopefully a good thing) as this could bring about more kick ass development.
I just hope this wont be the start of very bad things.
Post by: HumanClay on July 03, 2003, 08:59:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Everyone seems concerned about the implications of only being able to use 8 gigs of the HD... I see this being a good thing (It is to my knowledge that allowing for use of the F drive requires a modified bios, and we're still using the MS bios)... |
you may swap hdd's with a xbox using this exploit and get full acess to the F drive just as with a modchip. Yuo must first however insert the hdd into your pc and run hd prepare properly with your xbox hdd key
Post by: Perkele on July 03, 2003, 09:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (HumanClay @ Jul 4 2003, 04:59 AM) | ||
you may swap hdd's with a xbox using this exploit and get full acess to the F drive just as with a modchip. Yuo must first however insert the hdd into your pc and run hd prepare properly with your xbox hdd key |
And how is the XBox going to see the F-partition with the original bios??????
Post by: lonemodder on July 03, 2003, 09:49:00 PM
Post by: HumanClay on July 03, 2003, 09:51:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| And how is the XBox going to see the F-partition with the original bios?????? |
It works is all I know...
Post by: LinksAwakening on July 03, 2003, 09:55:00 PM
| QUOTE (HumanClay @ Jul 4 2003, 05:51 AM) | ||
It works is all I know... |
Have you tried this and can you comfirm it?
The original M$ bios will not recognize an unlocked HDD, and will definitely not recognize the F:\ drive.
This is all assuming you can even get the Xbox to boot off of an upgraded HDD, as M$ bios require the specific Xbox Motherboard\HDD pair to boot...
Post by: Troed on July 03, 2003, 10:08:00 PM
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Imagine using the 007 or MechAssualt hack to load files into the Xbox
Image those files creating a buffer overflow hack in the original dashboard
Imagine never having opened your Xbox, booting into the original dash, playing XboxLive at will.
Imagine just having to click in one of the original dashboard menus to boot up EvoX and start launching your backups, emulators and mediaplayers
Imagine the end of the modchip business
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... followed by a little controversial bit:
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oh almost forgot:
Booting EvoX is done above by patching the BIOS in ram. Now Imagine EvoX before launching your backup, hooking one of the bootloader routines in the xbe, launching the game, and when the hook is called patching the bios _back_ into original state.
Backups on XboxLive
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http://forums.xbox-s...=ST&f=3&t=42520
Post by: HumanClay on July 03, 2003, 10:10:00 PM
| QUOTE |
Booting EvoX is done above by patching the BIOS in ram. |
Ok that explains how You can acess the F drive, the bios is pacthed on the fly
Post by: krackheadbill on July 03, 2003, 11:07:00 PM
muhahahahahahahaha
Post by: PENTIUM75 on July 04, 2003, 12:59:00 AM
| QUOTE (LinksAwakening @ Jul 4 2003, 04:21 AM) | ||
Keep in mind this could also hurt to good, honest game developers too... if too many n00bs look at this as an "easy" way to pirate games... (although not much easier than a modchip)... |
This is true, look at the dreamcast, its poor design also had a boot disk created almost right after it came out, but look at it this way, if games didn't cost $50+, they wouldn't have problems, Enter the matrix made millions of dollars by atari, yet most all atari games are still $40+. I guess it's all about profit, always wanting more. I urge everyone to use theyre modchip or bios for its real legal use, backing up your games you spend hundreds of dollars for. And of course playing super mario bros on fce
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