Post by: BigTony on December 30, 2003, 07:42:00 PM
Post by: Rohaq on January 01, 2004, 10:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mr Ed @ Dec 30 2003, 05:02 AM) |
| Did you power off the XBOX each time you made an adjustment or did you adjust it with it powered on? |
NEVER do this with the power on!
I switched it off, took the case apart and DVD drive top off (with it still in the case), tweaked, and just put the case back on without screwing it down between tweaks; much quicker
Once you've found your magic setting, screw it all back together
Post by: bigpapa on January 02, 2004, 09:40:00 PM
I have just recently ran into one of these brand new Phillips drive and was very upset with the fact that I couldn't get it to work. Thanks to all the help on these forums I have fixed my issue and wanted to share with all of you my results. Not using a multimeter (which I know I shouldn't have but had to with time restraints) I went in for the kill and tweaked the left pot on the drive with reading this tutorial:http://www.xbox-scen.../philipspot.php
That helped alot although not the same drive. Once I got into my drive and saw the two pots I marked the left one with the felt tip I had and then went ahead and turned the pot not more then from 12:00 to maybe 2:00 if that much clockwise. What do you know the drive plays the disks I use. Here are my results from the testing of different disks:
Sony DVD-r = no problem in reading at all
Verbatim DVD-r = no problem in reading at all
Maxell DVD-r = no problem reading at all
KHypermedia DVD-r = Would not read at all
Memorex DVD-r = booted up but would not go as far as the loading screen
I have not tried any DVD+r's yet but I am hoping they have the same result as the top three I used. Good luck to you all because I know I was scurd going in to tweak something I didn't even know existed till tonight. Thank you very much for the help even if you think you didn't everyone who wrote in here did help!! Keep the pimp hands strong and keep on getting at Billy for he will never be unstopable like he thinks he will
Post by: DaShiZNiT on January 08, 2004, 09:01:00 AM
Post by: viper_8548 on January 09, 2004, 01:52:00 AM
http://members.optus...newphillips.jpg
Post by: viper_8548 on January 12, 2004, 12:59:00 AM
Post by: rms2001 on January 13, 2004, 10:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mr Ed @ Dec 29 2003, 10:02 PM) | ||
Did you power off the XBOX each time you made an adjustment or did you adjust it with it powered on? |
LOL sorry. I got side tracked and forgot all about this post. I see big bigpapa posted with DVD-Rs worked for him. I used Maxell and got it to boot but never made it past the boot up screen. Than it wouldnt boot it again. Tweaked the pot some more and lost every thing. Went back to the original settings and started over. Got it back to reading CD-Rs and DVD+RW and thats where I left it. Just couldn't get the damn thing to read DVD-Rs no matter what I did.
Mr Ed, I hard the drive in my XBox sitting on of my Samsung drive so I could work on it with it all still plugged in. I would take the cover off, tweak the pot ever so slightly than put the cover back on and power it up.
I wouldnt tray it while it was on, who knows what would happen to the drive and or the XBox.
Post by: A@ron on January 14, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
LP(Left Pot.)=1608 Ohm RP(Right Pot.)=705 Ohm (yes they are measured correctly)
At first I turned the LP down in increments of approx. 30 until it hit 500 Ohm and decided I didnt want to go any lower and blow the drive up. I've read all these past posts and found something interresting, when a user with a 1600 Ohm LP set it to a value near that of the RP it started reading more media.So now I have a rather strange theory which states if the LP approx. = RP it may read DVD-R. So I tried it and got my LP set to 720 and low and behold it now reads SOME DVD-R (2x Ritek) backups but not all of them. Im going to experiment further but adjusting the LP and see if I can get my 1x Princo white top dvd-r to work. So if you've gotten the drive to read DVD-R what was the final value of your LP in respect to your RP?
A@ron
Post by: Mr Ed on January 14, 2004, 08:38:00 PM
Some people have mentioned that if you adjust them too much you can hear the drive make 'scary' noises when it tries to load a game. Since lasers don't really make noises what is this? Just the optical assembly madly scanning back and forth? Or does one of the pots control how close the assembly goes to the disc and it hits the disc when adjusted wrong?
Anyway, I haven't seen these answered and it seems this info. would be helpful in figuring out the adjustments.
Post by: Exobex on January 15, 2004, 09:11:00 AM
Post by: rms2001 on January 15, 2004, 12:10:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Some people have mentioned that if you adjust them too much you can hear the drive make 'scary' noises when it tries to load a game. Since lasers don't really make noises what is this? Just the optical assembly madly scanning back and forth? Or does one of the pots control how close the assembly goes to the disc and it hits the disc when adjusted wrong? |
When I was messing around with this Thompson and after I got it to read CD-Rs, it was a little noisier when it spun up and what not, nothing to worry about I think.
Post by: Rohaq on January 15, 2004, 04:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (rms2001 @ Jan 15 2004, 10:10 PM) | ||
When I was messing around with this Thompson and after I got it to read CD-Rs, it was a little noisier when it spun up and what not, nothing to worry about I think. |
Adjust it down a fraction of a degree then. It might stop the noise and keep the CD-R reading ability
Post by: rms2001 on January 15, 2004, 09:34:00 PM
Any way, I don't have the drive here any more. Its with its owner and he says he hasnt had any problems with it.
Post by: [email protected] on January 19, 2004, 10:19:00 PM
XBOX 1.4, Western Digital Hard Drive etc
My own box has a Thompson drive which will play anything that I have burned on my Pioneer A06. Datasafe, Verbatim, Datawrite, MMore, but the Philips would not. In the end it did play the Datawrite DVD-R (4x red).
I just got some new Ritek DVD+R 4x (Ricoh JPN-R01-02) and they also work (got them from www.komplett.ie or www.komplett.co.uk)
Hope this helps
Post by: jugpole on January 21, 2004, 02:21:00 AM
Originally it would read 50% of dvd-r, all cd-rw and 50% of cd-r, as well as dvd and cd.
After tweaking the left pot it was able to read most dvd-r. Unfortunately i decided to turn the pot a little more.........
Now it will ONLY read cd-rw and original cd's, and nothing else, including original game discs and DVD movies. I've put the pot back to its original position (using only a pen mark, not a meter), still no luck.
If the laser is burnt out, then wouldn't it be unable to read any type of cd at all?
BTW, this is my first ever post to any forum, anywhere. You can probably tell.
Post by: sajain84 on January 21, 2004, 03:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (jugpole @ Jan 21 2004, 04:51 PM) |
| Can anyone tell me if I've fried my laser? I have the new philips drive. Originally it would read 50% of dvd-r, all cd-rw and 50% of cd-r, as well as dvd and cd. After tweaking the left pot it was able to read most dvd-r. Unfortunately i decided to turn the pot a little more......... Now it will ONLY read cd-rw and original cd's, and nothing else, including original game discs and DVD movies. I've put the pot back to its original position (using only a pen mark, not a meter), still no luck. If the laser is burnt out, then wouldn't it be unable to read any type of cd at all? BTW, this is my first ever post to any forum, anywhere. You can probably tell. |
Bingo dude !
I have exactly the same problem.
Did everything I could, but can't even get my original games to run.
I can run only CDRWs and original CDs.
Anybody out there ?
Is the laser really dead, or is it possible to try and work our way back to the original settings ?
Post by: DaShiZNiT on January 25, 2004, 12:58:00 AM
Dear one-time-poster-boy, your drive is dead. But seriously in every tut, it says if you turn it too far, you can damage it. You really should've spent 12.99 on a multimeter..
Post by: powercntrl on January 26, 2004, 01:02:00 AM
As with everything, YMMV and if the DVD drive is annoying you enough that you're considering replacing it anyway, you may as well pot tweak the drive since you've got nothing to lose. If your drive already works fine and hates one brand of media, just don't buy that brand anymore, lest the idea of buying a new DVD drive for your Xbox appeals to you should something go wrong.
Post by: Exobex on January 26, 2004, 02:30:00 AM
Machine was in a Midtown Madness pack, mfg date 2003-09-24. Drive was the 6035 model.
Adjusted left pot from 1362 ohms down to 726 ohms, right pot stayed at 779 ohms.
Now reads Ritek G04 media no problem, also happy with CDRWs, but hates Princo DVDs. Which is no big deal, as loads of Thomson drives hate them just as much!
Came across yet another one last night, mfg date 2003-09-25, same model drive. Didn't need adjusting. Perhaps I should've read the pots anyway...
Post by: Exobex on February 02, 2004, 09:09:00 AM
So I thought I'd do you all a favour and measure the pot settings.
Xbox was part of a Midtown Madness pack, manufactured 2003-09-25
Drive was a Philips VAD6035/21
Left pot read 880 ohms
Right pot read 647 ohms
Both readings taken between top-left pin and the adjustment screw itself.
Post by: minty on February 03, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
I was getting about 50% readability on DVD-R's mostly Ritek G04.
But it was getting worse, wasn't recognizing more and more.
I decided to jump in and do the tweak on the pot.
I made a pen-mark,
and tweaked slowly and tested...
was getting better and better results, except one disc...
I tried again,
and now NOTHING works.
I was stupid and didn't mark the resistance values!!!!!
Since leaving it alone and trying to return the pots to the original positions, I can get 1-2 originals to boot a bit, then freeze.
Is this fixable?????
Post by: Exobex on February 03, 2004, 07:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (gonky @ Feb 2 2004, 09:06 PM) |
| Sorry Exo - just to be clear, these pot readings came from a *vanilla* machine; you mean you didn't need to adjust the pots what-so-ever? |
That's right. I only opened the drive to read the pots. Didn't adjust them. What-so-ever.
Post by: Exobex on February 03, 2004, 07:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (minty @ Feb 3 2004, 09:52 AM) |
| I've got a Philips VAD6011/21 I was getting about 50% readability on DVD-R's mostly Ritek G04. But it was getting worse, wasn't recognizing more and more. I decided to jump in and do the tweak on the pot. I made a pen-mark, and tweaked slowly and tested... was getting better and better results, except one disc... I tried again, and now NOTHING works. I was stupid and didn't mark the resistance values!!!!! Since leaving it alone and trying to return the pots to the original positions, I can get 1-2 originals to boot a bit, then freeze. Is this fixable????? |
I believe there are tutorials on the X-S website for these drives. Don't try to copy the methods and resistance values shown in this topic, as these are for the new, fussy Philips (phussy?) drives.
Post by: undertoe on February 04, 2004, 09:39:00 PM
Post by: mmick on February 05, 2004, 03:52:00 AM
Post by: Exobex on February 05, 2004, 06:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (undertoe @ Feb 5 2004, 06:39 AM) |
| whats the go with these philips drives in v1.5 thats dont read a thing, then you put the same drive in a v1.0 - v1.3 and it reads fine. |
Don't know, but machines fitted with these drives also come with the 5530 BIOS instead of 5101. Hmmm...
Post by: sazebac on February 08, 2004, 12:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (chewyy01 @ Feb 7 2004, 09:58 PM) |
| All you people with a Philips DVD drives. What X-Box package did your drive come with does each package all contain the same drives. I have seen 2 people with the new Halo and Midtown Madness 3 package all come with the AWESOME SAMSUNG drive which I have. Iam asking this because I already have a Xbox but want another one with the Samsung Drive not the Philips drive. Thanks New Forum Member |
I got an Xbox made in October 03 and it has the crappy Phillips drive. My package came with Tetris and a Star Wars game.
Post by: Exobex on February 09, 2004, 09:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (chewyy01 @ Feb 7 2004, 08:58 PM) |
| All you people with a Philips DVD drives. What X-Box package did your drive come with does each package all contain the same drives. I have seen 2 people with the new Halo and Midtown Madness 3 package all come with the AWESOME SAMSUNG drive which I have. Iam asking this because I already have a Xbox but want another one with the Samsung Drive not the Philips drive. Thanks New Forum Member |
The faulty Xboxes I've come across were part of Midtown Madness packs, the last one was manufactured 2003-09-24. The working one I came across was manufactured 2003-09-25.
Post by: shorty on February 10, 2004, 08:10:00 AM
I have one of the new packs and it looks like the thomson.... but i just wanna be sure before i open it, otherwise im gonna return it.
Cheers Lads!
- Shorty
Post by: DaShiZNiT on February 10, 2004, 08:32:00 AM
Post by: Exobex on February 10, 2004, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: KlaasBaas on February 12, 2004, 01:55:00 AM
Mine came without anything, except for a modchip.
But i guess Bart Smit has the philips version.
Mine was from month 11 2003, as far as i remember.
Yup from Holland.
Maybe you might be lucky with the Samsunng.
Although my philips (new one) performs OK.
Dvd -/+ (rw) and in many cases CD-r (no POT tweaks)
Post by: DJF5 on February 12, 2004, 02:39:00 AM
im going to buy it at E-Plaza... i dont have any 'professional game-shop' or something in the part of holland were i live (noord-holland-noord)
Post by: reissy on February 15, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
Post by: KlaasBaas on February 16, 2004, 01:18:00 AM
It´s great actually.
Does most format´s and in many cases also CD-R
I use Lifetec CD-r´s which is i think LeadData.
Post by: chewyy01 on February 16, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
As I need a new Xbox because my one is banned from live I have tried emailing MS to unbanned me but have not recieved an reply yet.
Post by: KlaasBaas on February 17, 2004, 01:30:00 AM
This realy makes my day :-) !!
With configmagic you can change the serial code.
But then again, where to find a valid serial code :-)
Ahh wel mine will cost you .. eeh well a Samsung DVD unit ??
Hehehehe that´s cheaper than a new xbox.
Post by: Exobex on February 19, 2004, 02:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (chewyy01 @ Feb 16 2004, 09:55 PM) |
| Any way no one here can confirm my first post. Does all the X-Boxes in the UK with the Midtown Madness 3 and Halo pack contain the Samsung Drive. As I need a new Xbox because my one is banned from live I have tried emailing MS to unbanned me but have not recieved an reply yet. |
No. As you'll see from one of my above posts, some contain Philips drives. DODGY Philips drives.
Post by: sansones on February 20, 2004, 12:23:00 AM
Here is the pic of the rear view of the eye lens group:
I turn the left one trimmer from 980 to 667 and now it works with most brand of DVD-R and CD-R.
I tried:
-Riteck G04, now works ok, before worked only 10% of it approximately;
-Memorex DVD-R now Work ok, before no one was read;
-Princo DVD-R 4x, now work, before no;
- Memorex CD-R, now work ok, before nothing...
So I have to say that even if the Drive is not like my old Phillips, that reads all (everything), the situation now is more than better than before!
Post by: sansones on February 24, 2004, 05:38:00 AM
Before it wasn't able to read anithing than the original one and CD-RW.
Now it reads:
-DVD-R Ritek g04
-DVD-R Quixo Multispeed 4x
-CD-R 80min Memorex
-CD-RW
It continue not to read:
- DVD-R Memorex 4x
- DVD-R Princo.
I'm happy about what I was able to obtain!
Post by: Exobex on February 24, 2004, 08:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (sansones @ Feb 24 2004, 02:38 PM) |
| Another Phillips new model drive tuned! Before it wasn't able to read anithing than the original one and CD-RW. Now it reads: -DVD-R Ritek g04 -DVD-R Quixo Multispeed 4x -CD-R 80min Memorex -CD-RW It continue not to read: - DVD-R Memorex 4x - DVD-R Princo. I'm happy about what I was able to obtain! |
I wouldn't worry too much about it not reading Princo DVD-Rs.
Princo were shit-hot when it comes to CDRs (the only CDRs that work in a Samsung 709 DVD player are Princo) but their DVD-Rs are shite. Many Thomson drives hate them.
Post by: mosselman on March 03, 2004, 01:23:00 AM
a friend of me bought an xbox also with a philips drive also, couldnt even played original games!! but he modded it already It seems whoever he calls someone in holland is hamstering the good dvd drives, cause the same person buyes them all!!! Lazy @#$# @ Post by: Vikter on March 03, 2004, 07:51:00 PM
Here are the drive's details.
Model: VAD6035/21
Customer Part Number: X00624-005
Factory Code: 8VU
Mfg Date: W349 - December - 2003
This drive came installed in an xbox manufactured in China on 01/05/2004
Before:
CD-RW, DVD-Video, and original xbox disks worked.
DVD-R, DVD+R, and DVD+RW did not work.
CD-R and DVD-RW, were not tested.
After:
CD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R, DVD-Video, and original xbox disks worked.
DVD-RW and CD-R were not tested.
As you know, you can ruin your drive and I will not be responsible. That said, here is a short summary of what I did.
Read all posts regarding all drives. In short, the things I felt were important are as follows.
A. The goal is to feed the laser more power, so that it can read DVD-R media. You do this by measuring the resistance in the pots, and adjusting them.
B. Use a Multimeter. I recommend a digital one, that way you don't have to try to measure exactly where the needle is pointing, you simply look at a digital display for a number.
C. You will be measureing ohms (symbol looks like a horse shoe or greek letter Omega) and it is important to know that the lower the number, the more power you will be feeding the laser. Do not crank it too low or you may damage your laser.
2. Before adjustments, my ohm readings were as follows:
Left pot: 629
Right pot: 597
These settings, however, did not work. I noticed that there is great variation in ohm readings in this forum, but as MyUtopia mentioned, you just need get an original ohm reading so that you can lower that a little as stated below.
MyUtopia said
| QUOTE |
| It appears that 200-400 ohms less than the original reading has done the trick. So when you take your initial reading - adjust the POT based on that scale - however, I would suggest in small intervals - perhaps 25-50 ohms. |
3. I first turned the left pot from 629 up to 820 by turning it counter-clockwise. I put the lid back on, plugged it in and found that it did not work. Then I tried lowering it by turning it clockwise, little by little, until I reached 338 ohms. It probably took me about six or seven tries starting again from about 600 before I got that low. Each time, I would close up the drive and plug it back in (only because it seemed easier than dealing with the bulky xbox on my small desk) It finally worked!
Also important, I think is what Exobex said about only having to tweak the left pot.
Remember, I lowered the LEFT pot, but did not adjust the right one at all (only measured it).
Thanks to all of you. This is a great community. Although this is my first post, I have read many posts since December and learned everything because of you guys who share your knowledge. Thanks for keeping the scene alive.
PS. I have pictures, but don't have hosting. If someone can host them, I will post them.
Oh, almost forgot the disk types.
The CD-RW is Memorex 1x-4x
The DVD-R is Maxell (doesn't say, but burned at 2x)
I also used Verbatim DVD-R and DVD+R and DVD+RW. (2.4x)
Verbatim worked well for me, and they are a great deal if you shop at Sam's Club. They sell a spindle of 50 DVD+R or DVD-R for $60.
Best of Luck!
Vikter
Post by: Killer2240 on March 05, 2004, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: lion2 on March 09, 2004, 06:47:00 AM
DVD-R Memorex
DVD+R Verbatim
Wont read
Generic: DVD-R (white top)
I didnt use a multimeter so I've been afraid to raise the power even more. Anyway I am pretty happy with the results Im getting now.
Post by: chewyy01 on March 15, 2004, 12:10:00 PM
Had a samsung drive in my version 1.5 X-Box the motherboard broke down within a year so sent it back to MS. They repaired it and said the DVD drive was faulty and gave me a philips drive instead. Even though I ain't using this X-Box to play DVD-Rs I still would of rather have the more reliable Samsung drive. Any one got the same treatment while there box was being repaired?
Post by: webslicer on March 15, 2004, 01:54:00 PM
I recently replaced my boxes dvd with the new philips 6035/21 and it runs great but only on Fujifilm 1x DVD-R (silver top/purple bottom) and HP 8x CDRW (burned at 4x) Haven't tried cdr's yet.
Now I am pleased with that because the drive is very stable it seems and loads things quickly. Now what I decided was that buying discs in a retail outlet was too expensive, $38 for 25 spindle of the fujifilm's at the lowest price i can find locally retail. So I read all the forums and decided that the RitekG03 1x Silver/Purple were the way to go. So I find a place with a 100 spindle for $75 free ground shipping. So those are on the way in the mail now. Anyway then i find this horrifying thread about these new drives and the mixed reviews of them being able to read things for some and not for others. However, I wanted to try something and see what information I could get about the Fujifilm dvd-r's that I was using that my xbox likes so well. so i used a tool called dvd info pro, and here are the results of what it told me about my 1x fujifilm dvd-r's.
_________________________________________________
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG03
Format Capacity 4.10GB(4.40GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed 1.0x 1385KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 1.0x 1385KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 20CF2Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
_________________________________________________
Imagine my surprise when I saw that my over priced ($1.52 each) at the store Fujifilm's were in fact none other than the very same disc's I am buying for .75 online. And this also it would seem will end my dilema of weather or not my Philips will read the RitekG03 discs or not.
I will reply again once my discs arrive and i've had a chance to test this out.
Anyway here's my dvd-drive info.
________________________________________
Model Number: VAD6035/21
Customer Part Number: X00624-005
Factory Code: 8VU
Mfg Date: W333- August - 2003
________________________________________
and that's straight off the drive label.
anyway crossing my fingers and will reply back when more info.
Post by: A.Z.BEST on March 16, 2004, 04:37:00 AM
Post by: wrk24wheel on March 16, 2004, 08:15:00 PM
Post by: Pr0phecy on March 18, 2004, 11:32:00 PM
When I copy this same movie to the harddrive, all goes well. Is it my DVD drive or the brand DVD that causes problems?
Hope anyone can help me...Thanx in advance!
Post by: valindel on March 23, 2004, 10:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (Pr0phecy @ Mar 19 2004, 09:32 AM) |
| When I copy this same movie to the harddrive, all goes well. Is it my DVD drive or the brand DVD that causes problems? |
why not burning the film in other brand and try it yourself?
it seems to be the disc or the film itselft...
c u
Post by: Cofi on March 24, 2004, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: Rohaq on March 24, 2004, 10:17:00 AM
Post by: Cofi on March 24, 2004, 11:52:00 AM
But if it can read audio cd's it should still be working right?
Post by: sabresword on March 24, 2004, 11:40:00 PM
Post by: gonky on March 25, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
Whats this?
Post by: sabresword on March 26, 2004, 02:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (gonky @ Mar 25 2004, 10:52 AM) |
| Aladdin + Chip? Whats this? |
http://www.xbreporte...ox_mod_chip.php
Post by: gonky on March 26, 2004, 02:26:00 AM
Post by: DJF5 on March 27, 2004, 04:47:00 AM
Post by: grimlock on April 01, 2004, 02:31:00 AM
I haven't installed a modchip yet, and would like to know if there is a way to find out if mine can read DVD-Rs/DVD+Rs (since some people have had luck with their factory installed Philips'). Is there a message to distinguish a disc that can't be read due to the medium as opposed to its content?
Thanks
Post by: domerdel on April 01, 2004, 10:12:00 PM
then loaded it back to action replay ( i did have to preserve some savemeta files to the saved game tho)
So is there a drive out there I can buy that's compatible with xbox or is there a hardware config, on my existing one to where i can adjust the lens to read dvd-r (if there's such a thing) ?????
Post by: SUBLOGIC on April 05, 2004, 01:31:00 AM
1st question... stupid one at that, but I feel it needs to be asked....
Did you make the boot CD using XISO creator to get a true XBOX disc??
2nd question... did you burn the cd at %100 speed?? If so, try %50.
3rd question... did you burn it on to a CD-R or CD-RW??
If you used CD-RW, try CD-R (I NEVER EVER use CD-RW and never have any problems. Note: this is not the case for all people) The brand of CD-R i use is "Laser" and I use the "X Premium 52x" CD-R's. I have had problems with TDK, Kodak, BenQ and some CD-RW but not Laser X Premium.
If ya still got trouble...hmmm. dunno.....
anyone?
Sub
Post by: tim666 on April 07, 2004, 10:20:00 PM
However the phillips drive cannot recognize cdr(khyper, memorex and other cheap brand).
The reason that i want it to play cdr is because i am trying to install the xbmp/xbmc & play mp3 with it.two things i have tried.
1) connect an internal cdrw to the xbox using the tutorial below. i have tried both khyper and io magic cdrw drive but no luck.
http://xbox-scene.co...es/dvddrive.php
2) tweak the laser port as per this forum. original p1 setting is 965ohm and turn down until 350ohm but still cannot read cdr except audio cd.
decided not to take anymore risk, thus i turned back the p1 to 778ohm. Btw the 778ohm just a random number that i tweaked.Well still consider myself lucky because i did not fry the dvdrom and still able to play dvdr and original game.
Can anyone kindly tell me, what am i missing here? OR what do i need to do to get the xbox to read cdr.
FYI i am using EVOX for the interface with RemoteX V1.8.281 written in the lower right hand corner.
Right now, i am considering to get myself a pc dvdrom for my xbox. but before i going to spent 30 dollar investing in the dvdrom, would like to get some feedback on the actual problem with my xbox.
Thanks.
Post by: jaholbro on April 07, 2004, 10:22:00 PM
Post by: Exobex on April 08, 2004, 02:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (tim666 @ Apr 8 2004, 06:20 AM) |
| FYI i am using EVOX for the interface with RemoteX V1.8.281 written in the lower right hand corner. |
1.8.281? Christ, how old is that?
Latest one (works well, too) is 1.8.3935 (a.k.a. +3935)
Simple answer to your problem: use CDRW or DVD-R for your MP3s.
Alternate, equally simple answer: FTP the files across from the PC instead of using the Xbox DVD drive.
Post by: Exobex on April 08, 2004, 02:15:00 AM
| QUOTE (foot_x @ Mar 26 2004, 09:01 AM) |
| I ve a Crystal xbox modded with aladdin advance too and the dvd is a philips one but doesnt read cd-r and can not read some dvd-r also, it really sucks (compared to my previous samsung drive). Any1 know how to modify it (VAD6035 Model)? Tkx |
Try adjusting the pots to the values found in my second post on page 5 of THIS THREAD.
Also, if it's reading deep purple Ritek DVD-R media (Arita, Datasafe, Ridata, Ridisc, Ritek, Traxdata) but not light purple Princo/ProDisc media (most Datawrite, most shops-own-brand, Bulkpaq), I wouldn't risk adjusting it. For the sake of a few extra pence, use the Ritek media instead. The only Xboxes that don't read them are the "PS2 Emulator" ones, i.e. fucked ones that don't read anything any more.
Post by: 0123456 on April 09, 2004, 03:00:00 AM
is this just a temporary thing? will it need a pot tweak soon - it seems a bit strange because everyone else is complaining about this drive and it seems fine to me.
Post by: grimlock on April 09, 2004, 01:10:00 PM
Post by: Exobex on April 13, 2004, 02:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (grimlock @ Apr 9 2004, 09:10 PM) |
| Following this thread from its inception, I recently had an question: All of us have seen the new Philips randomly read DVD-Rs, CD-Rs and other media in different combinations (without modification of the POTs). Isn't it very much possible that a specific BIOS allows for better readability? I would really like an answer from someone who knows for sure what they're talking about, since there's a lot of room for guesswork on this. Hope this leads somewhere |
Well, the installation of the new drives did seem to coincide with the release of the 1.0.5530 BIOS. I never tried DVD-R in a grouchy Philips before modding it.
However, as the drive's own BIOS (as opposed to the Xbox BIOS) is responsible for handling the drive's own operations, a newer Xbox BIOS should make no difference.
Post by: mc-cougar on April 14, 2004, 08:04:00 AM
2k, 10k, 50k, 100k Ohms??? I Think I've turned the second too much.
THX
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I get it, it's a 2k Ohm pot.
Post by: rms2001 on April 17, 2004, 04:18:00 AM
DVD is a Maxell, was burned at 1x on a Pioneer A04. It dose not how ever like CD-Rs. I will have to pick up a digital multi-meter and see what the pots are set to. Any way, kinda nice to see a new Philips reading DVD-Rs out of the box.
Post by: Mr Ed on April 17, 2004, 07:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (grimlock @ Apr 9 2004, 02:10 PM) |
| Following this thread from its inception, I recently had an question: All of us have seen the new Philips randomly read DVD-Rs, CD-Rs and other media in different combinations (without modification of the POTs). Isn't it very much possible that a specific BIOS allows for better readability? I would really like an answer from someone who knows for sure what they're talking about, since there's a lot of room for guesswork on this. Hope this leads somewhere |
Are you talking about bios on your modchip?
Unlikely.
What makes you think it would? 
Post by: dantok on April 18, 2004, 04:51:00 AM
Post by: cox377 on April 21, 2004, 01:56:00 PM
reads: -
Rimax
Doesnt read: -
Discrite
no name lol
Post by: dfect on April 24, 2004, 08:58:00 AM
Tried a few formats like different DVD-R, +RW's
These works:
HP CDRW (burned at lowest speed)
Verbatim DVD-R
Samsung DVD-R
non-working:
cheap DVD-R's
almost all DVD+RW's
Post by: aTraxion on April 25, 2004, 04:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (RMF @ Apr 25 2004, 09:55 AM) |
| I've just pickd up a crystal xbox with the new philips drive in, but before i mod it i'd like to know if it will play my old backups without having to open it incase i have to return it, so i was wondering if any of the guys here who've had problems playing games from DVD-R's or +R's can play dvd movies on + or - media? Or is the problem solely with playing games from + or - R's? The reason i ask is that i tested some burnt dvd movies on both types of media and they all played perfectly, and cd-r's worked fine aswell. TIA to whoever answers. |
Wow that's is the exaclty thing i would know too.
My Crystal xbox with Phillips isn't modded yet but i already tested some Copied Movies dvd's. There where 2 Princo DVD's (white) 4X . The 1st dvd i tested didn't work the second does work
.. But is was de same Princo DVD-R (white). The good thing is that alls cd'rs works fine on my xbox.Well I wanted to know if DVD-R could be a trouble when motted, Because i have 300 divx movies on DVD-R from Princo and Arita. So does it matters on what kinda dvd I burn (Dvd -R/+R DVD-rw/+rw) for the games/Movies????
PS: My 1st Xbox with Thompson Drive readed both Princo's... Kinda weard
Post by: shinkansen on April 27, 2004, 02:49:00 PM
Made in Feb-19-04 and 06 factory code.
Tried Ritek G03 burnt on 2x - Works without any problem
Tried Imation CD-R burnt 12x -Works without any problem.
Both burnt with Sony DRU-500A with RecordNow Max 4.5
Post by: black_light on April 27, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
Post by: dantok on April 27, 2004, 08:37:00 PM
Work:
Princo DVD-R Burned @ 4X
TDK DVD-R Burned @4X
Melody DVD-RW Burned @4X
Now the IRONIC THING IS.
MY FUCKING DRIVE. It crashes sometimes when reading project Gotham racing 2 ORIGINAL. I HAVE NO IDEA why but it crashes. Like wtf man. Growl. I don't know what else to say:S
SCREW PHILIPS!!!
Post by: aTraxion on April 28, 2004, 05:54:00 AM
!!!
Post by: dantok on April 28, 2004, 05:57:00 AM
Post by: McGeyser on April 28, 2004, 03:11:00 PM
Post by: dantok on April 28, 2004, 03:46:00 PM
Post by: sansones on April 30, 2004, 01:14:00 PM
Post by: maze2 on May 03, 2004, 11:50:00 PM
Post by: KXXX on May 04, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
I havent tried CD-RW yet so far immation is the only CD-R ive got to work all others didnt work.
Post by: aTraxion on May 08, 2004, 05:08:00 AM
yesterday and today i wanted to switch game with my xbox and i didn't saw my game in it so i took a flashlight and saw that my dvd disk was above the dvd thing . After trying opening clossing al of the sudden the dvd comes down on it and it came out kinda weard.. happend 2 times in 2 days...
Some one had this before? or am I swapping the games not on the good way pls help me!!!
Post by: Rohaq on May 08, 2004, 04:26:00 PM
| QUOTE (aTraxion @ May 8 2004, 02:08 PM) |
| WTF!!! yesterday and today i wanted to switch game with my xbox and i didn't saw my game in it so i took a flashlight and saw that my dvd disk was above the dvd thing . After trying opening clossing al of the sudden the dvd comes down on it and it came out kinda weard.. happend 2 times in 2 days... Some one had this before? or am I swapping the games not on the good way pls help me!!! |
DVD... above... DVD... thing?
You're going to have to be more specific; if you're just closing your jamming discs in the drive as it shuts, just be more careful!
Post by: Xb0XmAn on May 10, 2004, 01:38:00 AM
I live in holland and the new drive always comes with a crystal xbox.
I modded about 5 crystals and 3 of them gave me problems reading certain games that plays fine on other drives.
So this is what I did to solve it for now, I took one of the new drives that plays most of the games fine, and measured the resistance.
LP=702
RP=1064
I tried to give another drive the same measurements, LP was a bitch, because when i tried to set it to 702 each little tweak it went from 750 to 650. The closest i could get was about 658.
I forgot to note down the original settings but new settings are:
LP=658
RP=1062
With these settings it reads more media, just like the other drive I didnt have to tweak.
This week I will get the 2 other drives that need adjusting and I'm planning to tweak them same like stated above. More info I will post.
Post by: NEOHUNTER on May 11, 2004, 09:22:00 PM
Post by: McGeyser on May 12, 2004, 12:39:00 AM
Post by: dantok on May 12, 2004, 01:25:00 AM
Post by: Mr Ed on May 12, 2004, 05:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (NEOHUNTER @ May 11 2004, 10:14 PM) |
| I just bought the new extreme green xbox v.1.4 and the new philips drive and it seems to work perfectly, it reads all dvd-r and dvd-rw movies but my question is will the disc reading reliablility change if it is modded and once i run a backup of my games? |
No modding will have no effect on how well the DVD drive works.
Post by: dantok on May 12, 2004, 05:26:00 AM
Post by: Rohaq on May 12, 2004, 07:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mr Ed @ May 12 2004, 02:10 PM) |
| No modding will have no effect on how well the DVD drive works. |
Err, what about a pot tweak?
Post by: xzonex on May 16, 2004, 07:58:00 PM
now it doent even read originals!
Post by: Mr Ed on May 17, 2004, 05:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (Rohaq @ May 12 2004, 08:42 AM) |
| Err, what about a pot tweak? |
Ok, fair enough. I just meant adding a mod chip when I said modding.
Post by: Rohaq on May 18, 2004, 12:18:00 AM
| QUOTE (xzonex @ May 17 2004, 04:58 AM) |
| manage to get hold of 5 xbox today and all had phillips drive, only 3 needs tweaking, out of the 3, only 1 didnt work no matter what i try now it doent even read originals! |
...and that's why you've got to be careful when doing a pot tweak! Too far either way and you can seriously bugger up your drive, permanently.
Post by: Aquilon on May 21, 2004, 02:32:00 AM
Post by: Rohaq on May 21, 2004, 01:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (Aquilon @ May 21 2004, 11:32 AM) |
| I haven't yet opened my Xbox (it's still under warranty). I've softmodded it. I was wondering if there was any way of telling if I have a Philips or Samsung drive. For some reason, the tray is exactly like the Samsung, with the two holes on either side, but the drive exhibits the same problems as the Philips: can't read any DVD+R, can read DVD-R, but sometimes runs into problems and starts seeking continuously (quite a racket too: rrrrrrr... clack!), can read CD-R. |
Softmod invalidates your warranty too, I believe
Moreso, considering your chip no longer has an MS BIOS on it, at all.
Post by: McGeyser on May 21, 2004, 02:25:00 PM
EDIT: Burned using Nero 6.3.0.2
Post by: Mr Ed on May 21, 2004, 10:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (Aquilon @ May 21 2004, 03:32 AM) |
| I haven't yet opened my Xbox (it's still under warranty). I've softmodded it. I was wondering if there was any way of telling if I have a Philips or Samsung drive. For some reason, the tray is exactly like the Samsung, with the two holes on either side, but the drive exhibits the same problems as the Philips: can't read any DVD+R, can read DVD-R, but sometimes runs into problems and starts seeking continuously (quite a racket too: rrrrrrr... clack!), can read CD-R. |
Uh, Samsungs don't read DVD+R usually right?
Post by: b-gates on May 27, 2004, 04:59:00 AM
It's at home and I'm at work so I can't open it and look, however I'm away to order some blanks DVDs and need an idea of what type to get. Any suggestions?
Cheers
Post by: b-gates on May 27, 2004, 05:17:00 AM
The text below pretty much confirms I have the new Phillips.
Now to find what blanks I can use. What fun!
Thanks
Post by: otaolvi on June 05, 2004, 10:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (Xb0XmAn @ May 10 2004, 10:38 AM) |
| Like many of u I also have problems with the new phillips drive. I live in holland and the new drive always comes with a crystal xbox. I modded about 5 crystals and 3 of them gave me problems reading certain games that plays fine on other drives. So this is what I did to solve it for now, I took one of the new drives that plays most of the games fine, and measured the resistance. LP=702 RP=1064 I tried to give another drive the same measurements, LP was a bitch, because when i tried to set it to 702 each little tweak it went from 750 to 650. The closest i could get was about 658. I forgot to note down the original settings but new settings are: LP=658 RP=1062 With these settings it reads more media, just like the other drive I didnt have to tweak. This week I will get the 2 other drives that need adjusting and I'm planning to tweak them same like stated above. More info I will post. |
Hiya!
I also have a newer type Philips drive (VAD6035/21) and just performed a successful modding of it. Earlier it did not play CD-R:s but did play at least CD-RW and DVD-R. However, I wanted to be able to play CD-R audio cd:s, so I decided to go for the pot tweak mod.
I measured the values of the pots with a multimeter before modding:
left pot - 720
right pot - 960
Then I turned the left pot just a tiny little bit to the right (not the word tiny, because the pot is really sensitive - just turn it a mere degree or so). After measuring the resistance again I decided I might have turned it too much and turned it back slightly. The resistance of the left pod was then 675 ohms, which i thought might be about right according to a post in this thread, whose writer had had approximately the same starting values as I did.
My Philips-drive now reads also CD-R:s as well as all the other disks it read before. I haven't had the chance to do a more thorough check on different medias, but at least it now does what I wanted it to do in the first place.
Concludingly I'd say you should go for this mod if you need your philips-drive to read more disk-types, but remember to be careful to turn the left pot just slightly and measure the change of the resistance before testing the drive. As people in this thread have said, you might destroy your lasers by turning the pod too much.
Post by: Sgt Bosco on June 07, 2004, 11:08:00 AM
Post by: mikeylbl on June 08, 2004, 02:52:00 AM
Post by: pug_ster on June 11, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: W3irD04 on July 05, 2004, 08:46:00 PM
, but i noticed that with retail dvd movies my drive will freeze up in the middle of the movie. the drive works perfect with games dvd-r's backups n such. on my other box my sammy works like a charm with dvd movies idk wut is different...if anything.
Post by: sohoito on July 06, 2004, 07:11:00 AM
1st: reads the following CD-R 700MB disks:
1. eProformance 32x (silver top)
2. Infiniti ??x (silver top)
3. Datawrite 48x (white top)
4. Maxell 32x (silver top)
5. Memorex 48x (silver top)
All were burnt with Plextor PlexWriter 40/12/40 and different versions of Nero.
2nd: doesn't read CD-Rs; after few days of use a game boot time went up-to 10 minutes. An owner applied for a guarantee service.
Do not have any technical detailes as both xboxes weren't opened.
Post by: menelik on July 09, 2004, 09:31:00 AM
i've tested the x21 and x11 models (old ones) and had no probs with any of my media. today i got a x35 in a crystal box. modded it with aladdin and got the same performance like the x11 and x21. i cant see any difference.
moreover i dont think that the aladdin chip is responsible for any perfomance differences. i guess that there are differences within the x31 models.
Post by: menelik on July 28, 2004, 02:09:00 PM
edit:
a few hours of working the philips2 didnt accept my dvd+r anymore. i set the left pot to 600 and it works right again. this behavior is really wired, i dont know an explaination for this.
Post by: 8MM on August 11, 2004, 12:02:00 PM
I guess I will not be supporting Phillips anymore, I think i Know who ill be choosing for my DV recorder.... Samsung!!!!!
Has anyone tried dual layer disks??????????
Post by: UnStable on September 05, 2004, 06:27:00 AM
Post by: John Hoek on November 08, 2004, 11:41:00 AM
) Others just don't.Can someone please confirm this theory of the pot's relating to each other. On my DVD Philips drive, V21 this seams to be true. On my neighbours Xbox, i had to tune it, and found out this behaviour between the pot's. But it could be just a lucky factor. Must be confirmed though.
Post by: John Hoek on November 11, 2004, 04:12:00 AM
Post by: John Hoek on November 16, 2004, 01:48:00 AM
Post by: zathura on December 02, 2004, 05:50:00 AM
Havn't podded it yet, but standard it can read:
80 min CDR-media from
Verbatim (CMC Magnetics Corporation)
Platinum (Moser Baer India Limited)
Datatrack (Plasmon Data Systems)
It can't read:
80 min CDR-media from
Plextor (Taiyo Yuden)
Tybo (Taiyo Yuden)
Mam (Mitsui Chemicals Inc.)
(...) = Manufacturer
Post by: Esari on December 02, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
It reads quite well CD-R/RWs and DVD+/-R/RWs (Maxell, Sony, Verbatim...)
Still some discs like Packard Bell DVD-R doesn't work at all and usually DVD-R movies gets stuck!
I've tweaked the DVD drive's left pot but the improvement was only little and the drive still freezes with DVD-R movies.
Here are the drive's pot values:
Before tweaking:
Left pot: 615ohms Right pot: 481ohms
After tweaking:
Left pot: 415ohms Right pot: 481ohms
Any ideas to make the DVD drive working better?!
Post by: bearauto on December 10, 2004, 12:35:00 PM
| QUOTE (jtimkey @ Sep 6 2004, 08:26 AM) |
| Got the older philips drive have been using bulkpaq orange 4x for nearly a year now, but all of a sudden the drive seems to spin up fast then slow down etc. will run the game ok but very slow and jerky movies scenes etc ?? any ideas ? on its way out ? seems odd it used to work ok. |
I have the exact same prob.
Post by: Chancer on December 10, 2004, 04:43:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| THIS is the reason that the pot valua's variate very much on the drives! When DVD drives are assembled by Philips,Thompson or Samnsung; those chinese girls just quickly turn the LEFT pot in a certain starting position; say between 10-12 O'clock. This gives a rough Ohm valua, which can vary a lot. Then after this the DVD drive is finetuned on total Ohmresistance with the RIGHT pot. The right pot must be turned much more then the left one, to compensate the big variation of the left one. The resultance resistance of the 2 pot's are manually ste within the range of official drive specs. (example; the left pot in/decreases the resistance with say 100 ohm's/1 degree; the right one just 20 ohms/1 degree) |
Which just goes to show you have no clue what the pots do and how they are set.
You just made that up
Post by: menelik on May 29, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
i also modded philips vad6035/21, it reads everything. this mod has been tested by an other person - it seems that it didnt work with blue cds which i even dont have one from.
i wont make a tutorial as i havent got people who can proof this. contact me if you want details, after it works for all i will publish this mod.
icq: 56541633
Post by: menelik on May 30, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
Post by: son_of_paco on June 03, 2006, 04:15:00 PM
Post by: pimpmaul69 on June 03, 2006, 04:53:00 PM
QUOTE(son_of_paco @ Jun 3 2006, 11:22 PM) 
i used to have a phillips drive... it only read Ridata dvd-r so what i did was replace it for a thompson
wow that was reaaaaallly dumb.. the tomson sukks.. shoulda done the simple pot tweak
Post by: son_of_paco on September 17, 2006, 05:07:00 PM
QUOTE(pimpmaul69 @ Jun 3 2006, 05:00 PM)
wow that was reaaaaallly dumb.. the tomson sukks.. shoulda done the simple pot tweak
Well, the tompson works alot better for me
Post by: Jakerz71 on April 22, 2009, 12:29:00 AM
Post by: Alex548 on April 22, 2009, 12:36:00 AM
Post by: Providence on December 11, 2003, 07:00:00 PM
Can anyone confirm whether there is a new philips dvd drive in the new xboxes??
If so, does anyone have a tweaking tutorials for the new philips dvd drive?
Thanks
Post by: hedstrosity on December 11, 2003, 09:41:00 PM
i cant get them to read any dvd-r's... tried princo, ritek, and opto's.....
what a bitch
Post by: Albert34 on December 12, 2003, 07:45:00 AM
I have the same Philips drive in my new Xbox (drive type VAD 6035/21) It will not read any DVD-r
I hope someone can tell me what to do abouth this...
Regards Albert
Post by: hairymel on December 14, 2003, 11:01:00 AM
it would read xbox dis+cs and cdrs but not dvd-rs.
i jumped in and tweaked one of the pots and now it wont read anything
anyone have the resistance readings of the pots b4 tweaking ?
thanks
hairymel
Post by: Rohaq on December 14, 2003, 11:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (hairymel @ Dec 14 2003, 09:01 PM) |
| anyone have the resistance readings of the pots b4 tweaking ? |
Nope, you've gotta figure that out yourself; every drive differs from one another, evne if they're of the same make, and thus one pot setting probably won't work for someone else.
As a note; those who are asking how to tweak their drives: Have you even looked in the Tutorials section os Xbox Scene? :|
Post by: Providence on December 14, 2003, 11:55:00 PM
first of all the pots have been changed... So which one is which??
Post by: Rohaq on December 15, 2003, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: barracuda on December 15, 2003, 03:28:00 PM
(Addendum)
Almost forgot, this will always boot the disc I think is a Ritek but it crashes sometimes...the good ol' "There is something wrong the disc you are using...it may be dirty or scratched". Memorex 24x cd-r's always boot and run flawlessly.
Bought the box new yesterday (12/14/03) in Delaware, USA.
Manufacture plant code is 05. (Piss me off, got a Sammy in a box with 05 two weeks ago.)
Here's the vitals since no one posted yet.
New Philips DVD-Rom Drive:
Model #: VAD6035/21
Customer Part #: X00624-005
Factory Code: 8VU
Mfg. Date: W334 - August - 2003
If you're looking at the laser from the front of the XBox, there are 2 pots on the PCB behind the lens. (gonna try to ascii it here):
___ ___
| P1| | P2|
----------------------------------
| |
| LENS |
| |
----------------------------------
Front of XBox
Measurements:
P1 = 551 Ohms
P2 = 988 Ohms
If I knew which pot to try, I'd go for it...most likely we can deduce which one it is if someone out there can give readings from the old Philips pots.
LOL, ascii never works on message boards...but you should get the idea.
This post has been edited by barracuda: Dec 15 2003, 11:36 PM
Post by: hedstrosity on December 15, 2003, 04:03:00 PM
the philips WILL NOT play
ritek g03's ---- princos 1x ---- optodisc 1x discs ---- princo dvdrw's --- or some other generic media i tried...
those are all - dvd'rs. i tried one dvd+ to test (memorex) and it wouldnt take either...
read cdrw's though....
i wrote all the info down from a previous samsung and the three philips i got... i dont know what the number mean (serial id etc...) but all the phillips were the same while the samsung varied greatly in numbers (5 days in manufacturing difference)....
i hope this isnt the new protection, but the word needs to get out cause this would be one hell of a protection, and people are gonna be getting screwed who get them...
peace
Post by: Rohaq on December 15, 2003, 04:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (barracuda @ Dec 16 2003, 01:21 AM) |
| If I knew which pot to try, I'd go for it...most likely we can deduce which one it is if someone out there can give readings from the old Philips pots. |
Can't be sure, but I think my original reading for my Philips were around 600 Ohms, so it's probably P1, but no guarantees here.
Post by: barracuda on December 15, 2003, 05:03:00 PM
Looks like Bill Gate$ is the grinch this year.
But this should be front page news here.
Big, big news and all we see is Fake X2's and the good ol' propaganda about another weak Xecutor revision
I'm gonna report this to an op to try and get it in the news.
Looks like we'll see a ton of people in the stores digging for 06 XBox's.
Post by: brahm2 on December 15, 2003, 06:50:00 PM
I apologize for the shitty pics, but they are really old. IF you guys need better pics, I will take apart the box and snap some more but hopefully these will be good for now, just to get an idea of the shape of the drive or whatever.
Reads CD-RW and even some CD-R like a charm. Not sure about DVD media.
Oh yeah, i'll give this a temp pin as well.
If any of you guys have a new philly dirve, post pics so people can see the difference. Lets keep this thread informative and productive
Post by: Providence on December 15, 2003, 07:27:00 PM
but it'll read any dvd-r aslong as its a maxmax..
so if u have a dvd writer... try burn some xbox games on maxmax cd and tell me whether the philips can play it.
Post by: smokeingit on December 15, 2003, 09:50:00 PM
Post by: DynaMight on December 16, 2003, 01:20:00 AM
I modded a friends 2month old Xbox on the weekend, He had a Phillips drive and it worked fine on my CDRW and Bulkpaq DVD-R. Must had been an older type.
Post by: barracuda on December 16, 2003, 03:58:00 PM
I talked the guy who the Xbox was for into just getting a different drive that I had.
Post by: MyUtopia on December 16, 2003, 06:48:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Yep, I hit one a fortnight ago. Newer Philips drive (xx31 model, not xx11 or xx21). Cured as follows:- Off with the lid of the DVD drive Spin machine round, power & AV ports facing you See the pots on the laser sled? Good Measure left-hand pot (I measured between top-left point and the screw itself) YOU NEED TO DO THIS IN CASE YOU NEED TO ADJUST IT BACK AGAIN!!! I initially read 1.064K, when adjusted to 0.749K it read both Ritek and Princo DVD-Rs For reference (in case you messed with it), the right-hand pot read 1.032K When it comes to pot tweaking I don't trust me, either! But in this case it had to be done. This post has been edited by Exobex on Dec 3 2003, 06:56 PM -------------------- eXOBeX @ P/Systems Get raincoat 0.501 here! Flash not writable? Unknown device, manf=0x09, dev=0x00? Click here for the solution! |
Post by: Chizm on December 19, 2003, 12:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (MyUtopia @ Dec 17 2003, 04:48 AM) | ||
Credit goes to eXOBeX...
|
Is there a tutorial to do this? Or some type of picture so I know what I'm suppost to be doing? I had a friend who lives a bit a way mod my xbox for me, so I'm lost as to what to do. Thanks!!!!
Post by: Mr Ed on December 19, 2003, 01:01:00 PM
He assumes you already have the DVD drive out of the XBOX. If you don't know how to do that you can find other tutorials about disassembling the XBOX and you could probably just follow one of the older pot tweaking tutorials until you get to the steps that start with MyUtopia's post.
But you can see you need a digital multi-meter for this (to read the resistances). Do you have one of those?
Post by: Rohaq on December 19, 2003, 01:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (Chizm @ Dec 19 2003, 11:11 PM) |
| As to the multimeter, no, I don't have one. Know where I could get one for a reasonable price? |
I got a digital one at a computer fair for a few quid (that'll be British pounds to you
. If you're in the US, your local Radio Shack should sell them. I managed to do it without a multimeter though, and you can, as long as you're very very careful and test after every adjustment. An adjustment can be a single degree, too, and what's more, that single degree can make all the difference
Post by: Providence on December 20, 2003, 12:37:00 PM
But you can be the first to try it... and tell me how it goes
Post by: Mr Ed on December 21, 2003, 09:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (Rohaq @ Dec 19 2003, 03:56 PM) | ||
I got a digital one at a computer fair for a few quid (that'll be British pounds to you . If you're in the US, your local Radio Shack should sell them. I managed to do it without a multimeter though, and you can, as long as you're very very careful and test after every adjustment. An adjustment can be a single degree, too, and what's more, that single degree can make all the difference |
I got mine so long ago I can't even remember where I got it. It was mail order. I started at Radio Shack, but they wanted $100US for the features in the Multi-meter I got for around $30 via mail order. I just wanted it to be able to handle over 15amps. The one I got handles 20amps. Haven't shopped for one in a while, but I'd be leery of Radio Shack's prices because of that.
Post by: Rohaq on December 21, 2003, 11:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (Mr Ed @ Dec 21 2003, 07:33 PM) |
| I got mine so long ago I can't even remember where I got it. It was mail order. I started at Radio Shack, but they wanted $100US for the features in the Multi-meter I got for around $30 via mail order. I just wanted it to be able to handle over 15amps. The one I got handles 20amps. Haven't shopped for one in a while, but I'd be leery of Radio Shack's prices because of that. |
Well, I don't live in the US, so I'm unsure of Radio Shack's prices, I just know that they're the most well known place to buy things like this.
The fact is that one resistance setting may not work for every drive of the same make due to component differences, which is why I'd rather recommend tweaking to an approximate setting with a multimeter, then carefully without a multimeter, testing each time you tweak.
Post by: StOnD on December 21, 2003, 03:01:00 PM
Edit: The Xbox was manufactured Nov. 3, 2003; v1.5 I think.
Post by: XB0X_Mod on December 22, 2003, 10:49:00 AM
reads cd-r fine so far also tried a dvd-r movie that i burnt.. and worked fine... n e one else tested a movie and got it working either princo or ritek? (g03 i use)fora movie but games on same media wont?
Post by: OcnewB on December 23, 2003, 12:29:00 AM
datatrack, thatswrite or commodore dvd-
It WOULD read ez cd rw no problem. Didnt try cd-r yet.
Even the old thomson drives are better with dvd than the new pos philips drive! Damn.
Besides that i noticed teh make much more noise than the old drives when booting the xbox: tszzzzz klack tszzzzz klack tszzzz or something like that.
Ah well lets keep this pinned for a while and see what happens
Post by: Exobex on December 23, 2003, 12:32:00 AM
Plays fine.
Post by: OcnewB on December 23, 2003, 05:17:00 AM
REcently he also replaced someone shitty philipd drive that wouldnt read shit with a samsung drive. It worked two days. After that the guy came back again with same complaints. Not possible to read dvd-.
Wtf is going on. All these faulty philips drives. Can you all please tell me that all the philips drives that dont work are modified with ex 2.3?
Thx
Post by: MyUtopia on December 23, 2003, 05:27:00 AM
Be careful when adjusting the POT based on what users have suggested for settings.
As exobex said - ALWAYS measure your POT (should do it several times) before adjusting so as to set it back when need too.
Not all multimetres are the same. You will notice some different readings from a cheap $10 multimetre as compared to one that hovers around the $100 range.
Some folks have said that their initial reading was around the 1.064K range whilst another said that it was more in the 1.6K range.
This may very well be due to bad probes/leads and or dirty ones. Heck - even the wire that they are constructed of may differ. Manufacturers will attempt to adjust their metres to compenstate for these variances - but this is usually good for "out of the box" readings. In time, they will differ.
It appears that 200-400 ohms less than the original reading has done the trick. So when you take your initial reading - adjust the POT based on that scale - however, I would suggest in small intervals - perhaps 25-50 ohms.
Best Regards,
MyUtopia
Post by: Rohaq on December 24, 2003, 04:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (joeyc @ Dec 24 2003, 04:11 AM) |
| I moved the pot as much as from say 11:00 to 5:00 was that too much to smoke it. |
Could be. I moved it from 12 to 3, and that was enough to stop games from working. 11 to 5 is the same as 12 to 6! that's a half turn! Far too much!
Post by: barracuda on December 28, 2003, 12:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (Rohaq @ Dec 24 2003, 02:11 PM) | ||
Could be. I moved it from 12 to 3, and that was enough to stop games from working. 11 to 5 is the same as 12 to 6! that's a half turn! Far too much! |
This is one of the reasons that there are millions of dead PS2's out there. If you're blindly(no multimeter) trying to do this tweak you're most likely gonna kill it.
Pisses me off seeing all this info on the web saying "Save your PS2 by turning this pot a quarter turn this way", etc.
Save an XBox, buy a Multimeter!!
BTW, I'd try to stay away from Radio Shack meters...usually radio shack stuff is total crap.
Try Sears, I believe their better meters are made or engineered by Fluke, the best manufacturer of meters in the business. I use only Fluke brand meters myself.
Post by: rms2001 on December 29, 2003, 02:48:00 AM
I'm going to buy some DVD-Rs tomorrow and see what happens. The owner of the XBox is now happy and so am I, there was an extra $20 in it for me for 10min of work.I don't know what the ohms resistance is since I don't have a good multi meter to test it with. But I just turned it ever so slightly 'til it booted a CD-R like it was an original copy of the game.
Oh, the CD-Rs were TDK 700MG.
Post by: BigTony on December 29, 2003, 03:17:00 PM
1. Domestic Meter
Features:
· Ideal for the home
· Check bulbs, fuses and batteries
· Includes a transistor and diode tester
· Measure AC and DC volt, resistance and DC current up to 10A
· Includes test leads
· Low battery indication
· Basic accuracy ±0.5%
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Specifications:
Display: 3½-Digit 22mm high LCD
DC Voltage
Range Resolution Accuracy
200mV 100µV ±(0.5% rdg +1 digit)
2V 1mV ±(0.5% rdg +1 digit)
20V 10mV ±(0.5% rdg +1 digit)
200V 100mV ±(0.5% rdg +1 digit)
600V 1V ±(0.5% rdg +1 digit
Input impedance: 10MOhms. for all ranges.
AC Voltage
Range Resolution Accuracy
200V 0.1V ±(1.5% rdg +4 digits)
600V 1V ±(1.5% rdg +4 digits)
Input impedance: 4.5MOhms. all ranges.
DC Current
Range Resolution Accuracy
2mA 1µA ±(1% rdg +1 digit)
20mA 10µA ±(1% rdg +1 digit)
200mA 100µA ±(1% rdg +1 digit)
10A 1mA ±(3% rdg +1 digit)
Overload protection: 0.5A 250V fuse mA input only.
Resistance
Range Resolution Accuracy
200Ohms. 100mOhms. ±(0.8% rdg +3 digits)
2kOhms. 1Ohms. ±(0.8% rdg +3 digits)
20kOhms. 10Ohms. ±(0.8% rdg +3 digits)
200kOhms. 100Ohms. ±(0.8% rdg +3 digits)
2MOhms. 1kOhms. ±(0.8% rdg +3 digits)
20MOhms. 10kOhms. ±(3% rdg +3 digits)
Dimensions: 171 x 88 x 39mm.
Weight: 300g.
Supplied with red and black probes and leads, and instruction manual.
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Thanks.
Post by: Mr Ed on December 29, 2003, 07:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (rms2001 @ Dec 29 2003, 04:48 AM) |
| I just modded a new 1.5 with that has this Philips drive. I took it apart and turned the pot clockwise little by little. At first it didn't want to read any thing but real DVDs. Kept on tweaking it and get it to read DVD+RW, than CD-Rs. I'm going to buy some DVD-Rs tomorrow and see what happens. The owner of the XBox is now happy and so am I, there was an extra $20 in it for me for 10min of work. I don't know what the ohms resistance is since I don't have a good multi meter to test it with. But I just turned it ever so slightly 'til it booted a CD-R like it was an original copy of the game. Oh, the CD-Rs were TDK 700MG. |
Did you power off the XBOX each time you made an adjustment or did you adjust it with it powered on?