Post by: Tommy Vercetti on January 03, 2004, 08:52:00 PM
Are any of the Xecuters solderless?
If not, any good tips on getting the soldering skills up to par?
And is it worth it to put Linux on the Xbox? I would like to upgrade to the largest drive available.
Someone had mentioned a chart. I need a place where I can compare chips together.
Thanks, I know I am a newbie here sorry for the redundancy.
Post by: phrozenfeonix on January 04, 2004, 08:08:00 PM
to any reading this
Post by: brahm2 on January 05, 2004, 04:09:00 PM
did you even click the link in the first post? It has most of the answers you just asked.
pipes59,
PIRCAY ie GAME DOWNLOADING is the biggest taboo on Xbox-Scene.. just don't discuss it. We don't support it here, and threads about it will be locked, edited, and moved to the garbage bin, and there is a reasonable chance for a banning.
Post by: sant0s on January 09, 2004, 12:25:00 PM
the x-bit modchip is still not avaible yet, becouse of some problems. but the modchip sounds quite intressting (2 MB Flash, USB, up to 4 Multibios ect.). So my questionis, if i should wait until its avaible or choose another one. 4 Multibios, does it mean, that i can put for example Linux, Wince, "normal" xbox and "cracked" xbox os on one xbox? sry when i think absolut wrong, me is a beginner
Anyway, important is, if its worth to wait or buy another one.
thx, sant0s
Post by: NoLiMiTSoLDieR on January 13, 2004, 05:46:00 PM
I Wanna Run Backups
Wanna Use X-Box Live!
And Wanna Save Games and other Stuff To My HD.
I Think That X.B.I.T Is A Nice One but its not avail.
Which One u Recommend ?
Post by: geordiedave on January 14, 2004, 01:19:00 AM
so I would have to reccomend it
Post by: bwanaaa on January 21, 2004, 05:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (geordiedave @ Jan 14 2004, 11:12 AM) |
| Well I have a chameleon 1.3 installed and it works flawlessly, no soldering required unless ya want the power eject switch on , installed within 10 mins with pogo pins perfect function so I would have to reccomend it |
What about the xenium chip? How does it compare to the x-ecuter 3?
Post by: thewickedjester on January 28, 2004, 02:55:00 PM
"What is the best mod-chip?"
Same thing as "which one"
there isnt really any "best one", they all do pretty much the same thing, but some are solderless, some have bigger flash banks, some have hardware programmers in case of bad flash
just look around for which ever one you think is best
Post by: insectgod on January 28, 2004, 04:46:00 PM
Post by: lookformeb on February 14, 2004, 11:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (insectgod @ Jan 28 2004, 08:39 PM) |
| I currently have a matrix mod chip in my version 1.1 (I think) xbox. It never stays in place for very long, but I don't really want to get into soldering. My question is can anyone who knows the matrix and a newer (no-solder) chip tell me if they stay put better than the matrix? I know , I know solder would fix that problem but I don't want to fry my xbox. Thanks if anyone can help. |
Most solderless chips are just as reliable as the others, not very. Consider just paying someone to install chip that requires some soldering.
Post by: XtremeShrapnel on February 19, 2004, 10:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (insectgod @ Jan 29 2004, 02:39 AM) |
| I currently have a matrix mod chip in my version 1.1 (I think) xbox. It never stays in place for very long, but I don't really want to get into soldering. My question is can anyone who knows the matrix and a newer (no-solder) chip tell me if they stay put better than the matrix? I know , I know solder would fix that problem but I don't want to fry my xbox. Thanks if anyone can help. |
I personally prefer the X-Bit. Very, very easy to install, can be flashed via USB before you even install it, and stays put like a champ, have had absolutely zero problems with this chip!
Post by: xboxmodderr4u on February 21, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: OscarMayer on March 01, 2004, 06:25:00 PM
I'm a total n00b, and i was interested in getting a mod chip, so i could backup xbox games. i dont prefer to do soldering at, all, and all i really need my mod chip to do is play backups of my games. i looked at some newer chips, such as the Xenium, which comes with a solder-less adaptor, but i heard that soldering is still required to atatch the adapter to the chip. Also, i heard that there is a way you can switch your mod chip off to continue xbox live. I know that there is a chart at this site, but frankly, i was a little confused. if its not too much trouble, could someone explain this little dilemna to me?
Thanks a lot,
OscarMayer
Post by: frank10 on March 08, 2004, 07:55:00 AM
I did the quick solder method, it was very easy.
for the d0 connection, get a magnifying glass.
get a low wat iron, desolder braid, solder, flux, magnifying glass and go for it.
i did practice on an old circuit board for a couple of minutes.
Post by: hch on March 19, 2004, 01:46:00 AM
I have been in the modding scene since less than a month, but these days i have been reading a lot, and everybody seems to have different opinions based on their own experiences. So here comes mine:
I got an xbox over 1 year ago, and after spending a lot of money buying 7 games, i finally get bored of playing same games so my xbox stood resting since last christmas. One day i was searching something at google and discovered a news about modding your console using only exploits. It made me happy as i had consoles since the beginning of times, as follows: NES, GameGear, Genesis, SNES, N64, PS and PS2 before Xbox. None of them was modded because i was scared of frying my money...
After considering that my xbox was not giving any fun to me, i decided to "risk" it and try some of the exploits to do anything new with my box. I read a lot, downloaded lots of software, info, exploits, tutorials... and then my great doubts came, everybody seemed to have problems with bios versions, hotswapping, and nothing was clear. I tried some things, always scared to get my box useless, with no success. But at that point i wanted to do something with the green box!!!
So i found a site selling mod chips. New problem, which one should i take? Reading forums again blah blah blah, i decided to take a solderless chip, because i had no soldering skills and neither the tools to do that. I bought a Xecuter 2.3Lite+ and i had it at home next day (great delivering company!!!) I opened the box, installed the chip following the tutorials at the xecuter site, and with some minor adjustments to the pogo pins, all working. Really easy, so i recommend all you scared of soldering or modding your box to do it. I have the console on a table, i never move it from there, so i don't think the chip will move from its working position, and i am having a lot of fun with the xbox again, playing emulators, divx movies and my backuped games
Wish I could have done this before!!!
Post by: sic_conceptions on March 19, 2004, 07:02:00 AM
havent done to much to my xbox yet.
ive been thinking about getting a mod chip. one of these 4th genration ones.
i want to take full advantage of my xbox.
i would like to be able to use new dashboards, put in a new hdd, put in a ned dvd drive, backup games onto the hdd/play them from the hdd, and so on(jsut so you get an idea of wehat i want).
ive got a xbox version 1.0 and i found someone who can do the soldering for me.
well, as i said, ive been taking a look at these new 4th generation mod chips. ive been leaning to the smartxx 4mb.
is this a good choice for my needs? is there anything i should be aware of about this or any other chips before purchase?
thanks for any apllies before hand.
Post by: MaHoRo X on March 20, 2004, 07:15:00 AM
Post by: bigparao on March 21, 2004, 02:04:00 AM
(i really hate to ask this.... but)
i am just about to buy a modchip for my box (1st time), these are my choices:
x2.3b lite 79$
x2.3b pro 95$
xenium 89$ (genuine)
(dont worry about what currency)
so i'm looking for OPINIONS about what i should get. Please dont just say "its up to you", I would like to hear what you think. For reference, i intend to use xbox for games/dvd player/linux- basically everything.
obviously theres not a lot of difference between the prices for me so DONT recomment the x2 lite just because its 10$ less. I am not scared by dip switches or ftp/other admin stuff. Please dont use something trivial to determine- but if there really is nothing else then say so.
the reason i ask is because i would have thought the xenium was better than both the other two based on its "4th gen"-ness. (does the xenium OS have overheads? or is it just run before the particular bios)
I am fine with soldering (though thats not really gonna help the decision).
thankyou,
parao!
Post by: MrDonBonJovi on March 21, 2004, 05:02:00 AM
Post by: matthew2456 on March 22, 2004, 05:21:00 AM
matthew
Post by: Mexgamer on March 22, 2004, 09:52:00 AM
Im looking for a modchip to play imports. Is the Chameleon+solderless adapter a good choice, and can it run the EvolutionX_Build_3921?
Will the chip come with the cables to reflash it, or do I purchase them seperatly?
Thanks.
Post by: Bwsk8 on March 23, 2004, 02:47:00 PM
xbox-modchips.com ). So I checked the xbox-scene shopping fourms and found a reputable site to buy from and purchased an Xenium and slodered it myself using the pin header method. I had only messed around with and never even used a soldering gun before that but the install went fine. I'm happy that the first site was a scam because the Xenium is an awsome chip with a great OS and lots of ram. I haven't tried any other chips yet but I would definatley recommend the Xenuim. Also watch out for the fake Xeniums the some scam companies are selling.
Post by: luniticlizard on March 29, 2004, 09:38:00 AM
It's installation is a breeze. Just make sure the pins are lined up right. When I load the bios in, I like to change the boot screen so i know that it is on. I have bad soldering skills (but they are inmproving) so that is the main reason I liked this chip, plus, it has usb, which makes it a breeze to flash.
A guy I knew had trouble installing one, so much in fact, that he sold it too a friend of mine for 30 bucks. I installed the chip with no problem on my friends box. So, all in all, I like the chip. We have no problems with it, the xbox gets moved around a lot and it works great. So, yeah, that is that.
I don't think there is anything to secial about any of them, in my opionion. Although, the ones that have ntwork/hdd activity sound appealing to me.
Post by: pimpee on March 31, 2004, 06:15:00 AM
anyone can help on on that topic??
the question would be why should i get a gen4 when gen3(? executioner 2.3pro) seems to go all the jobs.
tx
Post by: pimpee on March 31, 2004, 09:31:00 AM
Post by: taar44 on April 01, 2004, 02:50:00 PM
Post by: busbyjon on April 03, 2004, 12:50:00 AM
I got mine with the solderless adapter...worth every penny, as cost less than the X.Bit!!
Post by: mayamaniac on April 03, 2004, 04:59:00 PM
For any expert with this whole modchip scene, let say I wait and get the solderless xenium, but if it isn't working well, can I still solder the chip onto the Xbox like the solder version? I assume the chip is the same except the solderless version comes with that pogo pin thing, yes/no?
Post by: kznefkt on April 03, 2004, 11:58:00 PM
Post by: InterMontano on April 04, 2004, 05:19:00 PM
of what chip to get and I Want To Run EvoX And XBOX MEDIA PLAYER. 200 Bucks have to last me to buy a Maxtor 120 GB Drive And My Mod Chip So Can any of you help me
Post by: phoenik on April 04, 2004, 06:40:00 PM
Figured a 4th gen would be a better option in the long run.
But any suggestions to help me choose between the two?
Post by: fingolfin269 on April 05, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
I have the chance to buy an Xbox w/ 2 controllers, samsung drive, 80gb hd, chameleon mod chip for $290. It's that cheap because it's a local deal.
Now, I had never really heard of the chameleon chip before finding this deal, so I am just a little concerned about the chip. Is there any reason why I wouldn't want to do this? Would I be able to access Live using that mod chip (meaning is there a way for it to be turned off)? Emulation? Media Player? I assume I'd be able to do all of these things but I'm not 100% sure about anything when it comes to xbox modding which is why I ask.
Thanks for any help.
Post by: brahm2 on April 05, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
InterMontano - So many choices! Read, learn, shop around. http://xbox-scene.com/modchips.php
Check local computer stores for HDD prices.
phoenik - both are great chips, both have had silly little bugs, like any chip. The one advantage the SmartXX has as of this post is that there are no fakes - the Xenium already has a couple fakes out. Be careful what you buy. Check this list for comparisons between their features: http://xbox-scene.co...hips4_table.htm
fingolfin269 - Chameleons are awesome chips. I have one in my Xbox. They are the prequel to the Xenium - one of the most popular chips on the market now, by www.ozXodus.com. Emulation and media player are a YES if you install the right software, and Xbox Live will be available if there is a SWITCH TO TURN THE CHIP OFF and the hard drive is LOCKED TO THE MOTHERBOARD. Make sure you know those two details before you buy if you want to go on Xbox Live.
Post by: jrtmx on April 06, 2004, 03:05:00 PM
brahm2 - what types of bells and whistles do the better chips have?
Post by: brahm2 on April 06, 2004, 08:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (jrtmx @ Apr 6 2004, 05:58 PM) |
| Im getting an xbox soon and have looked around at the modchips... im thinking of getting either an xecuter chip or a xenium. I plan on getting xbox live in the future, and I think both can be disabled. Im confident in my soldering skills so i dont need a solderless chip... which one, or any other, would be a good choice? brahm2 - what types of bells and whistles do the better chips have? |
If you are considering getting an Xecuter3, wait a little bit longer.. I don't know when the X3s are coming out but apparantly it's in Q1 2004 (soon). Xeniums are a good choice too. If you are looking at "4th generation" modchips, the only other chip you would be looking at aside from the X2 and the Xenium is the SmartXX. All good choices.
As for bells and whistles, I can be honest by telling you that I don't know the features of every chip and even what most of them do. However, the whole list of features is available at the link I posted a few times above, and that's in the first post in this thread: http://xbox-scene.com/modchips.php
Just click the link for 4th gen chips and compare what features might be best for you. If you are thinking about getting a late 3rd gen chip (which are still very competent and functional) check out that list as well.
There is no real wrong choice.. but I can't decide what the best chip for you is!
Post by: coz on April 07, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
If I buy an Xenium 4th gen chip and install it, will I be able to play backups of my games or do I still have to flash the bios? Basically does it come pre-flashed with a bios that will play the backups?
And if I do need to flash the chip, can I do it from a cdrw/cdr?
Thanks,
Coz
Post by: soulz4u on April 08, 2004, 11:04:00 AM
Post by: brahm2 on April 08, 2004, 03:56:00 PM
soulz4u (assuming you are asking me my opinion) - I haven't used it, or even read about it that much, so I can't offer an opinion on it one way or the other.
Post by: SniperKilla on April 13, 2004, 04:32:00 AM
their about the same price
the smartxx has 3.5 mb of user flashable space compared to 1mb on the xenium
it dosent require a serial lcd like the xenium for an lcd display (their much more expensive)
it has cooler features in the OS.. like web based flashing... ed @ chip ftp server... quickboot (absolutly no smartxx display when booting using the eject button) something the xenium dosent have... you are always stuck at the xenium boot screen...
seems like an easy descision to me...
but whatever
Post by: Poison69 on April 13, 2004, 07:13:00 PM
If you have any advice on want to read or what to buy, please respond or pm me. Thanks.
Alex
Post by: tormod on April 15, 2004, 04:51:00 AM
Like all others newbee here Im about to chip my xbox.
But since Im working on a lot of others mods too, and Im trying too making the most extreme xbox in Norway, I need your experience in the mod chip area!
If money not is a question, I just wont the best of the best at any price, what is the chip for me?
Best regards
Tormod Torgersen
Norway
PS! Sorry about my bad English..
Post by: Alystan on April 15, 2004, 03:36:00 PM
* It is difficult to find the last updated information.
* What all chip do: allowing you to run a custom BIOS on them, and at the end that is what really matters.
* What not all chip do:
- large BIOS support: some chip are limited to 256k, even though it is large enough for most BIOS
- multiple BIOSs support: If you want to run Linux AND homebrew applications, this is a requirement. It is also more secure to be able to boot on a 'safe' BIOS in case you did a bad flash.
- upgradable OS: only 4th generation chip run upgradable/configurable OS. OS's function enables you to control many low level parameters without having to use external homebrew applications. Examples of functions: save/flash xbox/modchip BIOS on HD/modchip flash, save HD, Lock/Unlock HD, NTSC/PAL switching, Zone switching ...
- recovery BIOS: in case of BIOS corruption, nice to think you can boot on something at least.
- LAN/USB flash (USB flash can be very usefull if your xbox refuses to boot I suppose)
- Disable mode
- Solderless installation
- Support 1.X Xbox version (not all chip support all xbox version)
Depending on your needs, a very simple chip might do the job for you.
* The Aladdin 64 for example, with its 512k flash looks good if you only need one BIOS and no fancy function.
* X-ecuter 2.3
-lite will offer you 1M Flash and 2 BIOS banks
-lite+ same but solderless
-pro will give you 1M Flash with multiple banks and is flashable via LPT
* The Xbit provides 2M Flash with multiple banks, is flashable via USB and offer the only solderless system I would really trust.
I am not going to talk about the other generation 3 chips since I havn't studied them enough.
In the generation 4, the X-ecuter 3 is not released yet, but is looks a bit less advanced than the already realsed Xenium and SmartXX. These last 2 chips actually are two branches of the same initial project. SmartXX looks more appealing to me, however I wonder what the Xenium OSv2 will bring.
About the installation I am a bit distrustfull towards solderless adapters. I read and heard many people saying they can disconnect if the xbox is moved around a little bit. The Xbit one looks like the best quality in my opinion, but again, it is only from reading forums and looking at the pictures.
Personnally I ordered 2 SmartXX because I wanted the functionality of the 4th gen chips since I may play around with Linux, adding RAM and some other hardware mods.
Feel free to comment my post, I am a newbie too afterall
Alystan
Post by: brahm2 on April 16, 2004, 12:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (tormod @ Apr 15 2004, 07:51 AM) |
| If money not is a question, I just wont the best of the best at any price, what is the chip for me? |
Well, I don't like to reccomend one chip more than the others, but I guess if you are looking for the chip that's packed with the most features, it would probably be the SmartXX chip. That doesn't really mean it's the best - but it costs the most
Xeniums are still good chips, and my experiences with them so far have been great.
Also, The Xecuter3 chip is being released (soon??), as well as two other chips.. the X-Chip (eb2k) and the X.PLOIT (Team Ankarah).
In the end.. I don't think I can reccomend a "best one" out of those chips.. they are all good
Post by: tormod on April 18, 2004, 11:50:00 PM
| QUOTE (brahm2 @ Apr 16 2004, 09:09 PM) |
| Well, I don't like to reccomend one chip more than the others, but I guess if you are looking for the chip that's packed with the most features, it would probably be the SmartXX chip. That doesn't really mean it's the best - but it costs the most Xeniums are still good chips, and my experiences with them so far have been great. Also, The Xecuter3 chip is being released (soon??), as well as two other chips.. the X-Chip (eb2k) and the X.PLOIT (Team Ankarah). In the end.. I don't think I can reccomend a "best one" out of those chips.. they are all good |
thanx!
It's the SmartXX and the "soon" to come Xecuter3 I have had my eys on, but I'm going to study the Xenium chip a bit closer..
cheers!
Post by: XBeatBox on April 20, 2004, 04:01:00 PM
thanks in advance
X BBoxer
Post by: manifesto on April 21, 2004, 09:52:00 AM
Post by: dru on April 23, 2004, 10:11:00 AM
I have a 160G hdd that I wanna install on my xbox, the newest xecuter + XBIT modchips support this right? I was thinking one chip or the other...XBIT seems to be a better choice since it is flashable through the USB port..rite?
thx
Post by: BAGGSIE138 on April 30, 2004, 04:22:00 AM
Post by: Rylinkus on May 05, 2004, 07:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (BAGGSIE138 @ Apr 30 2004, 01:15 PM) |
| I just want to save games,mp3's, and movies onto my hardrive. what modchip should i get for that? |
Pretty much any chip will be fine for that. They all do primarily the same thing. Some just have a few features that others dont./
Post by: Aridhol on May 05, 2004, 12:47:00 PM
Money is not really a concern, so which is the best for me smartXX?
Post by: XboxNia on May 05, 2004, 05:56:00 PM
Post by: crchickadee on May 07, 2004, 05:07:00 PM
It seems to work just fine, andno problems to date.
I can't say if it better or worse than other chips
Post by: videogamer1116 on May 10, 2004, 04:35:00 PM
Post by: brahm2 on May 11, 2004, 02:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (videogamer1116 @ May 10 2004, 07:28 PM) |
| I am new to modchips and i am interested in hacking halo. Which modchip is the easiest and best for hacking halo? |
There isn't really a "best" modchip, nor is there a modchip specifically designed for hacking Halo. Any modchip will do, as long as you can correctly install it, flash the BIOS, and get it running.
For a huge list of all current modchips, AND details and descriptions of every one, check out the link in the first post of this thread.
Post by: videogamer1116 on May 13, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
Post by: brahm2 on May 13, 2004, 08:25:00 PM
The easiest to install (but more expensive) are the Xenium with its solderless adapter, or the Xecuter 2.3b Lite+ (the + sign means solderless with Xecuter chips).
Seriously.. ALL the info is on this page.. read it!!
http://www.xbox-scene.com/modchips.php
Post by: Australian Rat on May 15, 2004, 01:47:00 AM
Post by: videogamer1116 on May 15, 2004, 07:06:00 AM
Post by: blackmamba on May 15, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
"YOU MUST BE CAREFUL. It is easy to PERMANENTY damage the d0 point."
I was wondering if 'all' the modchips needed the d0 point scratched? I also was wondering if there was a chip that didnt require me scratching the insides of my xbox by using a knife and reading it could Permanenty Damage( which really scared me )
Post by: brahm2 on May 15, 2004, 01:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (videogamer1116 @ May 15 2004, 09:59 AM) |
| Ok, i was reading that and im thinking of getting the x-b.i.t. I dont have a soldiering iron. Do i have to soldier the wires? and then there are optional soldiering points. Do i need to soldier them to hack halo? |
Nope - I am guessing that the optional wires you are talking about are the Power and Eject trick wires (where you can hold the eject button for X seconds, and it will boot with the modchip off or on, depending on how it's configured). That's an optional trick and not necessary for the modchip to work.
blackmamba - an alternative to scratching is to dip a Qtip in alcohol, and give the d0 point a gentle rub.
So far, I've never had to scratch a d0 point.. like you, I was nervous, so I did the alcohol rub instead. If you're using a solderless modchip, it's probably best to give the LPC points a rub as well.
Post by: XxCronoxX on May 15, 2004, 01:49:00 PM
X-Ecuter 2.3B LITE
- would be the best way for me to go? I'm a newblet when it comes to this and want to get something good and not crappy.
!
Post by: smackattack on May 16, 2004, 12:18:00 PM
The one thing im curious about though, and I havent seen explained anywhere is what is the difference between 3rd and 4th generation chips? What new features exist in the 4th gen chips, and why is it important to me?
Ive got a friend who is familiar with the x2 chips and can do the soldering for me. Ive seen a lot of posts pimping the smartxx and xenium chips. Im know any chip right now will allow me to do all the basic stuff i want to do (movies, backups, emulators) right now. However, as I learn more, and get into this more, am i going to regret going with the x2 and not getting a 4th gen chip (or even waiting on the x3)?
Thanks in advance for any replies
Post by: masmack on May 16, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
Simplest chip to install and only $20 at
foundmy.com
Post by: DevaNinja on May 17, 2004, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: videogamer1116 on May 17, 2004, 02:17:00 PM
Post by: X-killer305 on May 19, 2004, 12:14:00 PM
Post by: brahm2 on May 19, 2004, 09:36:00 PM
X-killer305 - There is no corrolation between modchip preformance and DVD-ROM type. You cannot pick a modchip based on your DVD-ROM drive.
Post by: Glasses on May 21, 2004, 06:29:00 AM
Thanks
Post by: sam85 on May 22, 2004, 12:21:00 PM
a) do these mod chips play pal cds if you have an ntsc system. that is im getting cds from asia which are likely to be copies in pal format will they work? I mean last i remeber that used to be the most basic and general use of modification chips but times have changed and I cant seem to find a written statement as to if they do or do not work.
what about dvd playback does it work without the kit? Or do you need to use the DVX2 software?c) whats with all this flashing the bios. Doesnt the Lite version come pre-flashed, that way you dont have to if thats the case, then do I need to flash my bios?
Yes as you can tell, im pretty new to all this stuff but im reading up and getting confused thats why I posted this.
Please reply soon thanks!
Post by: Shark Bait on May 23, 2004, 05:13:00 AM
Post by: videogamer1116 on May 27, 2004, 12:11:00 PM
Post by: Kezy on May 28, 2004, 07:08:00 PM
(SmartXX and Xecuter 2.3b+)
They're both the same price, but SmartXX has way more features. SmartXX needs to be soldered though, and I'm not that great at soldering.
I want to run Evolution X and back up my games to an upgraded HDD, which Im pretty sure Xecuter can do, but I also would like to use linux and network my X-box. Can the Xecutor use linux and network? Is there anything useful that Xecuter misses out on that SmartXX has? How hard is SmartXX to solder?
Thanks for helping me choose guys,
Post by: X-Gangstar Inc. on May 30, 2004, 05:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (XboxNia @ May 6 2004, 02:49 AM) |
| Im looking for a solderless modchip that is cheap i dont care about 1 meg 2 meg crap i just want a chip that cheap i do not have a ton of cash to spend can anyone direct me to a place where i can get a cheap chip preferable solderless i wish the chameleons were still for sale i dont understand why everyone has to sell it 50$ us im from canada and its 69$ for it and then there is the shipping cost.... and whats going on with easybuy2000 and there chip its super expensive and they keep pushing the date back and back doesnt sound to reliable.. |
You know what you should do? go to www.gocybershop.ca i live in canada 2 but i think im going to buy a SmartXX modchip ,well i hear its the best one.
DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM EASYBUY they have a horrible choice in modchips and dont even sell smart XX.
I would go 2 www.gocybershop.ca they sell an alliden for like $26 US you can also change the currency to canadain and it will tell u + they offer free shipping if u live in canada trust worth the site and the money
Post by: Mr.Frost on June 01, 2004, 05:09:00 PM
If you go with a solder chip, and you do it yourself, just relax, take your time, and follow the tutorials very carefully. you'll find most of it is common sense. Don't burn the crap out of the circuit board, don't peel up one of the little circuits and so on.
The hardest thing for me was flashing the bios, It was a little confusing at first, but it was actually very easy. Every question you want to ask, has already been asked and answered somewhere in these forums. Look around for the answer. I'm a newb too, but I managed so far.
I'll answer any questions if I can.
While your deciding on chips, go get mirc and read everything there, then get FlashFXP and read that.
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Post by: The Clone on June 02, 2004, 10:13:00 PM
I was hoping if you guys can help me find a good modchip as I am going to pick up my xbox in a couple of days and I would like the best, the price is not an issue just as long it wont damage my box. This is only because I have got and old xbox and I got a chip put in it in Asia and a few weeks back I opened it up because it was making a strange noise and they had totally cover the inside with some kind of rubber insulator but I can still make backups games with this one, I am just after the best chip for my new one so I can play online and my backup games by just putting them in the machine with no software on it like evolutionx I have on my old one.
Thanks..
Post by: Aquanius on June 04, 2004, 02:45:00 PM
Post by: oneway23 on June 11, 2004, 10:16:00 AM
Cheers
Joe
Post by: KneeDragger on June 12, 2004, 12:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (brahm2 @ May 14 2004, 05:18 AM) |
| The cheapest are probably the latest Aladdin chips. The easiest to install (but more expensive) are the Xenium with its solderless adapter, or the Xecuter 2.3b Lite+ (the + sign means solderless with Xecuter chips). Seriously.. ALL the info is on this page.. read it!! http://www.xbox-scene.com/modchips.php |
Let me say first that this website rocks and has alot of great information on it! But of course I have a few questions. I am looking at buying the Xecuter 2.3B Pro. After reading the link that you listed it says that it is possible to use that mod with a v1.6 xbox, but that there are no M$ bois available yet. I have yet to buy the xbox, so I am assuming that I will have v1.6 when I get a new one. So basically it it pointless for me to intall the mod if I can't get any BIOS for it, right? Do you know when any BIOS will become available? Or because BIOS are preinstalled I don't have to worry about it, but from what I understand (which isn't much) you have to flash BIOS after intallation, or has this changed? Thanks for the help.
Post by: Cubix on June 17, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: blindgoat on June 17, 2004, 08:40:00 AM
I can solder, my main points are
-Being able to do the back up deal
-Still being able to connect to Xbox Live (at least on non-backup games)
-Possibly being able to play DivX files and that whole deal (I'm guessing in EvolutionX or something like that? I'll read FAQs on that later)
I've heard multiple reports on whether you can get on Xbox live with a modded xbox (maybe because of the larger drives?). If the mod chip can cause you problems, should I get one where you can switch on and off? And, if the mod chip/hard drive deal causes XB live problems, could I just keep the original hard drive, and use that while turning off the mod chip to connect? Pretty confusing stuff.
Thanks in advance
Post by: ..[[ModBoxMaster]].. on June 18, 2004, 02:05:00 AM
Post by: cablematrix on June 18, 2004, 04:21:00 PM
get what ever suits you needs
Pro - For professonals
Lite - Easy to install, but not as much features
Lite+- " " + Solderless
I use a Pro
Post by: rsclever on June 21, 2004, 11:14:00 AM
Post by: Pele2048 on June 23, 2004, 05:29:00 AM
So is it possible to mix n match BIOSes with chips? Using an Xecutioner BIOS with the SmartXX chip
I've been looking at the latest generation chips and I think I'm settled on the SmartXX, if they ever get an FTP server working on it... (I'd like to be able to get stuff OFF the Xbox... With no removable media, that's kinda impossible.)
My main concerns are:
Enable/Disable support, in the offchance that I join Xbox Live... I'd also like the failsafe as so I don't accidentally connect with the modded BIOS loaded and the mod chip enabled.
FTP Support... To get Audio, Video, and data on and off the Xbox
Playable original and copy support, both domestic and import games. (I will be adding the Samsung drive before I get the Mod chip.)
Flash upgradable via PC, just in case I screw it up, and I don't have LPT ports, so it's gotta be USB.
Any other features are just things to play with, for instance I find the external display for the SmartXX interesting...
I'd much rather solder a pin header to my Xbox motherboard than use pogo pins or anything like that... So long as it's just the LPC pins and the d0 point, I'm fine... I'd rather not have a spaghetti mess like the PS2.
Post by: cheesy99 on June 26, 2004, 04:43:00 PM
I just ordered a SmartXX and haven't even gotten it yet, but I've been reading a lot of tutorials and stuff. I had a lot of the same concerns as you, and I think I've found answered to most of them. If anything below is wrong, someone please correct me...
Yes you can mix and match chips/BIOS and put an Xecuter BIOS on a SmartXX chip. There's also the Evolution-X and Cromwell BIOSes as well as a few lesser known ones.
Right now the built in SmartXX OS doesn't have FTP, but once you get Evolution X or another dashboard installed you can use FTP.
I believe you can play all original/backups/imports from either the hard drive (with a file manager or dashboard) or DVD drive.
SmartXX doesn't have a USB option yet, but it's got a back up OS so its pretty much impossible to completely screw it up. There's also a web interface so you can point your web browser at the Xbox's IP address and update the BIOS from there...very nifty.
SmartXX has pin header, quicksolder, and wires, and I think you can get solderless now too. So yeah, just the LPC and d0 point (unless the Xbox is a 1.5 in which case you also need ground and 3.3v, or 1.6 in which case you need to solder a bunch of wires)
Post by: Giga_Death on June 26, 2004, 07:01:00 PM
1 - Enable/Disable (turn on and off) for Live
2 - Change the xbox region to NTSC and then turn off the chip so I can play original NTSC import games on Live without getting banned.
A dual reason for being able to change it to NTSC is for the Progressive Scan/High Definition to be able to play progressive and High Definition PAL and NTSC original games (for games that support HD). I know I will also need the HD pack and a HD output device.
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Xbox's (chipped or otherwise) cannot output a -PAL- progressive scan.
PAL XBox's chipped and NTSC xbox's can output -NTSC- progressive scan (+ HDTV modes).
The pre-requisites for progressive output on a PAL xbox are:
a) a chipped box
enigmah videomode changer set to NTSCc) you'll also need to get the HDTV video cables (the official MS High Definition Pack) to go with it.
You'll then find the progressive options in the MS Dashboard.
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3 - Failsafe... in the offchance that I join Xbox Live... and I don't accidentally connect with the modded BIOS loaded and the mod chip enabled.
Smartxx has "Live Detection Prevention with Crypt-Stealth Technology".
4 - Requires no soldering so I can remove it if I want to / this I can drop from requirements but if any do this and all above then great.
Post by: cheesy99 on June 27, 2004, 02:25:00 AM
Post by: the_blueflame on June 27, 2004, 06:27:00 AM
I want the best chip to my x-box and a large harddrive.
I got some questions i need answers on.
Please answer
How big can the harddrive be?
Which is the best chip that isn't hard to insert?
Is the Xenium solder less a good chip?
First i thought to buy the Xecuter lite solder less but i saw that Xenium were one generation better. Is it better???
is it any different if i buy the xenium intead of the xecuter?
Can i change the bios that i get in the Xenium, noticed that i needed a programmer to the xecuter.
What is the pogo pins to the xecuter?
need help i'm
Post by: Bwsk8 on June 28, 2004, 12:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (the_blueflame @ Jun 27 2004, 10:20 AM) |
| How big can the harddrive be? Which is the best chip that isn't hard to insert? Is the Xenium solder less a good chip? First i thought to buy the Xecuter lite solder less but i saw that Xenium were one generation better. Is it better??? is it any different if i buy the xenium intead of the xecuter? Can i change the bios that i get in the Xenium, noticed that i needed a programmer to the xecuter. What is the pogo pins to the xecuter? need help i'm |
Read the FAQs
The hdd cam be up to 137gb or up to 2 terabytes depending on the bios you use.
No chip is easier to install than another. If you dont want to solder then go for a solderless like xenium-s or xecuter lite+.
If you are planning to buy a new chip and want an os in the chip you need to buy a forth gen chip. They will have lots of features built in that make things easier.
Yes, you can put any bios onto the xenium usng a cd, ftp, usb drive or another method.
Pogo pins are for solderless instals.
Post by: Eclipse Demon on July 05, 2004, 09:30:00 AM
There are 3 chips that I'm looking at right now....the X-chip, Xenium Ice and I'm also thinking about waiting for the Xecuter 3.
What I'm looking for is a chip that'll let me use a bigger than 137gb hdd and will let me turn it off for live. Also one that is solderless because I don't want to mess around with that kind of thing very much. If you have any other sugguestions about what I should try and get in a chip or which you think I should get of these please let me know.
Also if you know where I can get a hdd with linux already installed on a bigger than 137gb hdd then please tell me. Thanks a lot.
Post by: kobeballer2000 on July 07, 2004, 12:50:00 PM
All i want a modchip for is to play back up games and it has to be solderless, as i dont even know how to solder. Can anyone tell me which chip is generally good for what i want to do?
Post by: TermanX on July 09, 2004, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: kobeballer2000 on July 09, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
Post by: ronetone on July 12, 2004, 05:48:00 PM
Post by: doosmac on July 15, 2004, 04:54:00 PM
thx
Post by: brahm2 on July 15, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (doosmac @ Jul 15 2004, 07:47 PM) |
| SmartXX any good? thx |
No offence but that's really an ignorant question to ask.. ANY chip that you can flash with a BIOS and get working is a good chip. CLICK the link in the very first post in this thread, and compare it to the others..
to People in general: TRY to read about the chips before asking a question in this thread, then ask specific questions.
Post by: doosmac on July 15, 2004, 09:32:00 PM
I'm bit moron, have no idea what flashing BIOS mean or what...I read about chip but
I just want to get premoded system and run my back-up games.
I thought it might be safe because it was Newbie section
again I apolize
Post by: f9f9 on July 15, 2004, 10:40:00 PM
Post by: Sloth on July 15, 2004, 11:47:00 PM
Basically all i wanna do is have a moded xbox that i can load games onto a new hardrive with.
Post by: brahm2 on July 19, 2004, 04:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (Sloth @ Jul 15 2004, 11:43 PM) |
| I dont really know what im talking about here so bare with me...Im getting ready to buy an Xbox wich i assume will be version 1.6 but what i want to know is if i go with the Xenium Ice sodderless chip will i be able to put EvolutionX on the chip or will the chip already come with a os so i should not have to worry about it? Will i be able to install atleast an 120gb hardrive with this chip installed? Someone please help me out.. Basically all i wanna do is have a moded xbox that i can load games onto a new hardrive with. |
There is no solderless option supported for the 1.6 Xbox - soldering is definatley required.
The Xenium ICE will work on a 1.6 Xbox because it is loaded with a stable pre-release of Xenium OS 2. From this OS, you will be able to flash the modchip with a hacked BIOS so you can boot to an alternate dash, copy games to the HDD, etc.
You will be able to install EvoX - but just to clarify, it's a dashboard, so it's actually loaded and installed onto your hard drive, not the modchip itself.
Post by: mkdevo on July 21, 2004, 07:01:00 AM
hello all..
i have an original release-date xbox, with a 1st gen (29-wire) chip installed (xecuter?)... anyways, i'm looking to get a newer chip to take advantage of some of the newer features.
- as far as removing the old chip goes, can i just snip the wires? or do i have to remove them completely?
- is there a specific chip that i'd need to get for the older xbox, or will all current chips work? i'd like to go solderless if possible.
thanks in advance!
Post by: Giga_Death on July 22, 2004, 07:01:00 AM
http://news.spong.com/x?art=7192
I was thinking of doing it, but not anymore.
Post by: bucko on July 24, 2004, 11:42:00 AM
| QUOTE |
Is it still safe to mod your xbox in the UK? http://news.spong.com/x?art=7192 I was thinking of doing it, but not anymore. |
Yes, as long as you don't pirate games!
Post by: lithite on July 24, 2004, 11:55:00 AM
| QUOTE (brahm2 @ Jul 20 2004, 12:34 AM) |
| There is no solderless option supported for the 1.6 Xbox - soldering is definatley required. The Xenium ICE will work on a 1.6 Xbox because it is loaded with a stable pre-release of Xenium OS 2. From this OS, you will be able to flash the modchip with a hacked BIOS so you can boot to an alternate dash, copy games to the HDD, etc. You will be able to install EvoX - but just to clarify, it's a dashboard, so it's actually loaded and installed onto your hard drive, not the modchip itself. |
Im not sure if I understand...I already have a xbox, and I know that it's 1.6...I'm looking to get a xenium ICE, because it seems to be the only option really. But then the question becomes, will I be able to install EvoX? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, I thought that the problem was the lack of hacked bioses for 1.6, so I wouldn't be able to install EvoX...I'm a n00b, so maybe I'm missing something. Is there an O/S that will work w/ 1.6, besides Xenium2?
Post by: brahm2 on July 24, 2004, 08:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (lithite) |
| Im not sure if I understand...I already have a xbox, and I know that it's 1.6...I'm looking to get a xenium ICE, because it seems to be the only option really. But then the question becomes, will I be able to install EvoX? |
Yes - flashing the modchip with a hacked BIOS allows you to do things like FTP to the Xbox and install a new dashboard like EvoX.
| QUOTE (lithite) |
| Maybe I'm misunderstanding, I thought that the problem was the lack of hacked bioses for 1.6, so I wouldn't be able to install EvoX...I'm a n00b, so maybe I'm missing something. |
There IS a hacked BIOS for the 1.6 now
There's EvoX M8 (don't get confused - this is a different thing than EvoX dashboard) and XCHIP has released a 1.6 compatable BIOS (but it only works on their modchips). | QUOTE (lithite) |
| Is there an O/S that will work w/ 1.6, besides Xenium2? |
Xenium OS2 definatley supports this, and I THINK (not 100% sure) the latest SmartXX chips do. Make sure to check before buying. I'm not sure about the Xecuter 2.3b's.. but the X3 chips will support it when they are released.
Post by: Makhno on July 24, 2004, 11:52:00 PM
I'm looking for the chip with the most features and most ease of install.. the 2 chips I was looking at were the Xenium ICE and the X-BIT. Could someone give me some advice on which chip is better in terms of features and ease of install?
Can I use Evo X with both chips?
I wasn't able to find out which BIOS X-BIT was flashed with... could someone help me out here?
Thank you all very much!
Post by: Gus Man on July 25, 2004, 02:18:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Can I use Evo X with both chips? |
Yes, ever chip lets you run any dashboard or program
Post by: lithite on July 25, 2004, 08:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (brahm2 @ Jul 24 2004, 10:55 PM) | ||
There IS a hacked BIOS for the 1.6 now There's EvoX M8 (don't get confused - this is a different thing than EvoX dashboard) and XCHIP has released a 1.6 compatable BIOS (but it only works on their modchips).
Xenium OS2 definatley supports this, and I THINK (not 100% sure) the latest SmartXX chips do. Make sure to check before buying. I'm not sure about the Xecuter 2.3b's.. but the X3 chips will support it when they are released. |
Thanks for your help...I have one mor question about the Xenium ICE. Because it has no switches, and everything is done in the software, flashing a new BIOS wouldnt be a good idea, would it? I'm trying to get a feel for how im going to do this before I buy anything, and I'll need Xenium ICE, but should I install another bios on that chip, or will it render me unable to turn it off?
Post by: JesseWHHS on July 25, 2004, 06:08:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Hey guys, I have a 1.1 XBOX and I was wondering if you could get me some advice. I'm looking for the chip with the most features and most ease of install.. the 2 chips I was looking at were the Xenium ICE and the X-BIT. Could someone give me some advice on which chip is better in terms of features and ease of install? Can I use Evo X with both chips? I wasn't able to find out which BIOS X-BIT was flashed with... could someone help me out here? Thank you all very much! |
well man, the ICE is better cause u can get the solderless install. i dont think u can do that with XBit but not 100% sure of. Ive always loved Xenium and havent even got to try out OS2 yet. lol. long story, anywayz go / the new ICE. also any chip can load EvoX. There is no BIOS on either chip. u get the OS on both. u must flash the chip urself.
hope that helps ya out man!
Post by: PapaPrem on July 26, 2004, 06:30:00 PM
Post by: brahm2 on July 27, 2004, 02:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (lithite @ Jul 25 2004, 08:28 AM) |
| Thanks for your help...I have one mor question about the Xenium ICE. Because it has no switches, and everything is done in the software, flashing a new BIOS wouldnt be a good idea, would it? I'm trying to get a feel for how im going to do this before I buy anything, and I'll need Xenium ICE, but should I install another bios on that chip, or will it render me unable to turn it off? |
You'd have to flash one of the banks with a hacked BIOS to do anything that most people use their modchips for. However, the original BIOS is still available, you can just boot to Xenium OS and select it. So you're never really "turning off" the chip, you're just selecting to boot up with the original BIOS, making it safe to go on Xbox Live, for example.
I think you might be mixing up the OS and the BIOS.. the OS is stored on the chip permanantly - it's recoverable if something goes wrong. BIOSes are stored in flashable "banks" that can be re-written over and over again, if you upgrade your BIOS a lot, or if one flash goes bad and you need to re-flash.
Edit: PapaPrem - ANY chip that you can flash yourself will do what you want to do, however, if you're looking at top-of-the-line chips, get a Xenium (or Xenium ICE), SmartXX, or wait intill the Xecuter 3 is released.
Post by: cnagot5onit on August 01, 2004, 05:17:00 PM
Post by: rhar on August 04, 2004, 02:41:00 AM
I want to get the Lite version since it's cheaper, but I'm wondering if I can reflash the bios if I happen to make a bad flash the first time. I understand that with the Pro version, you can reflash with the LTP port or with CDRW. I would prefer flashing the bios with a CDRW. Can I do this with the Xecuter 2.3b Lite?
I have an XBox 1.1. I would like to store games and play it from the HDD. I want to upgrade to a 250gig HDD. An external switch to enable/disable the mod chip is real important since I'll be playing Live a lot. Can I do all this with the Xecuter 2.b Lite? Thanks in advance for your help.
Post by: JoeyELP on August 04, 2004, 07:07:00 PM
Post by: drshabazz on August 06, 2004, 04:58:00 AM
also, i'm even more unclear on bioses. my friend basically told me to figure out all this and let him know what i find. he's done this with no problems on older xboxes but hasn't really read up on things recently since his has been modded fine and he hasn't had to worry about it. do i need to get the M8 bios ? that's what he told me to find, but also I've read that the M8_16.bin is what I need for 1.6, not M8. maybe someone can give me some clarification. thanks!
Post by: snoopfighter on August 07, 2004, 07:42:00 AM
Post by: wessels on August 09, 2004, 11:49:00 AM
Post by: MrMonkey on August 13, 2004, 02:21:00 PM
There isn't really a "best" chip as regards the average users needs, LCD displays, onboard OS's, USB programmers, 3mb flashes and the like are nifty features, but if all you want to do is boot EvoX or something, they're unneeded. I mean even as far as BIOSes go, your average user is only really gonna need to flash one bios once, and then theres no need to touch it again. If the BIOS lets you do what you want to do, theres no need to reflash unless you need the new features. My advice to the "casual users" in this thread is to just get the chip that suits your budget. Get a solderless one if you dont want to/can't solder, really, they're perfectly fine. A solderless chip will function exactly as a soldered one will. This is assuming of course, that you'll be satisfied with the "basic" functions. If you see yourself getting deeper into the modding scene, you of course might want to invest in a more advanced chip, but for all the people out there whose only wish is to play backups, put in a bigger harddrive or install a dashboard, whatever you choose will be just fine.
As far as solderless chips go:
I have an Xecuter 2.3 Lite+ and I've never had a problem with misalignment. I have no idea what you people must do to dislodge your chips so easily (from stories I've heard), you must put them under piledrivers or something, or throw them off cliffs on a regular basis, cos thats the only thing I can see dislodging my chip at least. I've had my Xbox apart numerous times, taken it on train journeys, car journeys, turned it upside down, shook it, nudged it and actually dropped it once, and the chip is still stuck as solid as the day I put it in.
Post by: truSteh on August 17, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
) so my experiences are 0,0. I just need a decent modchip that can do the basic stuff, who can handel another harddisk (120gig) and who supports to read files from the harddisk (I guess basicly every chip can but not sure) and that I dont need a DVD kit to play DVD's (I have a Philips drive).. So the standard stuff I guess, there's no need for LCD display support or special things cuz I'm not really a person who is going to cut in his xbox Another thing, I cant sold. First because I don't even have the stuff to sold and second I have also 0,0 solding experience So that's basicly what I want Price doesn't really matter since I just need a good chip. Another question, what does EvoX (or something like that) exactly? Just like a new BIOS or somethin'? Yeah I know need to read the tutorials, but so much of them
Post by: dixieman on August 19, 2004, 08:06:00 PM
I just installed a X-2+ in my Xbox. I couldn't get the LED for the dO to light up like the instruction guide I was using said it needed to. I noticed you saying something about rubbing the dO with alcohol, or cleaning the motherboard with alcohol. Might that get my dO to properly connect with the motherboard??
Post by: T_relll on August 27, 2004, 12:34:00 PM
Post by: nam722rm on August 29, 2004, 11:49:00 AM
I'm wondering also what the recommended BIOS is. I think i somewhat understand what a dashboard is and i'll probably go with Evox for that.
Do all modchips allow you to bring things from the computer to your xbox? I really want to just back up my xbox games and run an emulator and stuff like that. will i need to upgrade my hard drive to back up games? and if i do get a bigger hard drive how will i move my saved games to it?
Sorry i have so many questions. If they've been answered before maybe you could just give me a link. Any help would be appreciated.
Post by: Geemoney713 on September 01, 2004, 10:36:00 PM
Post by: turkish on September 03, 2004, 10:19:00 PM
Post by: cykolink on September 08, 2004, 09:39:00 AM
Post by: cykolink on September 08, 2004, 09:41:00 AM
Cheers for any help
Post by: brahm2 on September 10, 2004, 07:06:00 PM
There's nothing you CAN'T do with a 1.0 that you can do with any other version of the Xbox, in terms of modchips and functionality once it's modded.
Post by: Chris_NEPA on September 17, 2004, 01:33:00 AM
Also, I'm not planning on connecting my xbox to my PC. I've got a 6yo PC with only one USB port, and no ethernet ports at all. How will I be able to install a bios? Atleast with the old Matrix I could just plug it into the parallel port and flash it that way.
I'd really like to talk to someone who's had a Xenium installed themselves, and had it running for a bit to find out some of the other things I'll need to track down once I get my chip. If anyone's willing to answer a noob's questions in private please PM me.
Post by: levi333 on September 22, 2004, 06:29:00 PM
Post by: Aluminum Gerbil on September 26, 2004, 02:13:00 AM
Post by: lithite on September 28, 2004, 10:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (levi333 @ Sep 22 2004, 08:32 PM) |
| I have a 1.6 version. Are there any solder-less options? I think i could solder it, but i dont think i want to risk it. |
No, and there probably never will be, if there is one, it will be very compicated and more trouble than it's worth. Its just the nature of having to rebuild a whole debugging port(lpc) from leads that are spread out.
Post by: Spency234 on October 01, 2004, 03:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (levi333 @ Sep 22 2004, 09:32 PM) |
| I have a 1.6 version. Are there any solder-less options? I think i could solder it, but i dont think i want to risk it. |
No
Post by: nautiazn85 on February 15, 2003, 07:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (XanTium @ Oct 20 2002, 03:39 PM) |
| It's not our job to decide which modchip you want or need. It all depends what you expect , what your soldering skills are and what price you want to pay. For a comparisontable of the modchips : http://www.xbox-scene.com/modchips.php |
I highly recommend the following chips for anybody setting up an XBOX: X2:Pro, X2:Lite, Matrix or CheapMod.
The difference between the X2 series and the cheapmod is that the X2 series comes with 1mb of flash memory on the chip, while the cheapmod only comes with 256k. Currently the majority of bios's for the XBOX is 256k, thus making 1 mbit a bit useless. HOWEVER, with 1 mbit you'll be sure that you don't have future problems with compatability (at least when it comes to BIOS size). The X2:Pro is the most expensive product on the market, however it's also the one with the most features.
X2:Pro and X2:Lite are the same except the X2:Pro comes with a hardware mod chip programmer. The X2:Lite does not come with a programmer, but it comes pre-flashed with a bios, and can be re-programmed through a software called Evolution-X Dashboard. The X2:Pro can also be re-programmed using Evolution-X Dashboard.
The nice thing about a hardware programmer is if you flash your mod chip with an incorrect bios, you can still fix it with the programmer. Without a hardware programmer, you cannot fix a bad flash.
The matrix is the exact same as a cheapmod except with pogo pins.
Post by: Jamesun on April 10, 2003, 08:21:00 AM
Post by: HeLiuM on April 16, 2003, 08:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (nautiazn85 @ Feb 16 2003, 04:10 AM) | ||
I highly recommend the following chips for anybody setting up an XBOX: X2:Pro, X2:Lite, Matrix or CheapMod. The difference between the X2 series and the cheapmod is that the X2 series comes with 1mb of flash memory on the chip, while the cheapmod only comes with 256k. Currently the majority of bios's for the XBOX is 256k, thus making 1 mbit a bit useless. HOWEVER, with 1 mbit you'll be sure that you don't have future problems with compatability (at least when it comes to BIOS size). The X2:Pro is the most expensive product on the market, however it's also the one with the most features. X2:Pro and X2:Lite are the same except the X2:Pro comes with a hardware mod chip programmer. The X2:Lite does not come with a programmer, but it comes pre-flashed with a bios, and can be re-programmed through a software called Evolution-X Dashboard. The X2:Pro can also be re-programmed using Evolution-X Dashboard. The nice thing about a hardware programmer is if you flash your mod chip with an incorrect bios, you can still fix it with the programmer. Without a hardware programmer, you cannot fix a bad flash. The matrix is the exact same as a cheapmod except with pogo pins. |
the matrix is based on a cheapmod, but it has a "switch", the creative mode3
Post by: EddieMac55 on May 08, 2003, 03:10:00 PM
Post by: zio on May 14, 2003, 10:44:00 AM
So my main plan is to run Linux (or even better: Darwin, if anyone ever ports that) on the box to run a web server, mail server and maybe some firewall software.
That aside, I'd like to use it as a multi-region DVD player, if possible, since it would save me the expense of buying a multi-region player. I have the DVD playback kit.
My Xbox is v1.1.
So here the questions:
a) I'm trying to decide between a Xecuter-Pro w/ pogo pin add-on and a Matrix w/ Chameleon add-on. What are the advantages, disadvantages between these two? The table on this site lists a feature set that looks almost identical, except I don't know what the color coding of some of the features mean, plus not all of the Xbox hacker lingo is self-evident. (e.g. what's "mode 3"?)
b) is there a step by step introduction somewhere to
- Xbox hack vocabulary
- the sequence in which things need to be installed if one wants to do the
following:
+ leave the Xbox as unmodified as possible (e.g. no soldering)
+ run Linux
+ put in a bigger hard drive (I have some spare ones floating around)
+ wants to play back multi-region DVD
+ wants to be able to boot the box as if it had been never modded
(e.g. how do I need to format the bigger HD and how do I get
the original drive's information onto the new drive).
Main point here is, I find bits and pieces of information here and there, but no good overview on how the pieces fit together, and since I don't have excessive amounts of time to play with all this, my Xbox has already been sitting here doing nothing for 4 months.
Post by: tonio21 on May 23, 2003, 07:12:00 AM
Thanks guys
Tonio21
Post by: nimaim on June 05, 2003, 04:14:00 PM
obviously pogo pins are not everyone's fav. option but if your looking for that no-solder type of solution, then DEFINITLY go with the X-ectuer 2 Lite Plus OR even the newest out, X-ecuter 2.1 Lite Plus ... it comes with the pogo pin addon and is one chip ... took me like 5 minutes to install on my v1.1 xbox and works like a charm, dunno what people are talking about misaligned because it's stuck there like glue, i can't even force it out without a screwdriver ...
oh yea, make sure u have a 1.0-1.1 if you want a no-solder chip, if not (if have the 1.2) your screwed, you then HAVE to solder and no-solder chips are useless ...
X2l+ over matrix tho, no comparison ... IMO anyway, soldering is obviously the best solution but pogo pins are great IMO, esp. since it's so easy to install ...
Post by: Kujack on June 19, 2003, 02:42:00 PM
The matrix is approx. 50 bus + 40 for the chameleon, making it 90 bux (not cheap).
The executer with pogo pins isn't cheap either.
For your uses, TSOP flash would be fine (free, though it requires minimal soddering. I doubt that you'll be signing up for Live andytime soon).
Second would be Matrix. No soddering (though you can to add some functionality - its really easy soddering)
Third would be Chameleon - No wires to sodder, just directly sodder the 2 pcb's. Pretty easy.
OK, now let me explain the entire Matrix Chameleon Business (for tonio21)
The matrix is a 256k modchip with pogopins, so that soddering is not necessary.
The Chameleon is a 1 meg modchip that was designed to be soddered directly onto the PCB of the Xbox.
The Chameleon can be used in conjunction with the matrix to make it a sodderless 1 meg mod chip. It requires that you modifity (destroy) the Matrix and it would simply serve as a pogo pin adapter.
Yes you can turn the matrix off. hold power and reset for 3 seconds.
Post by: Xeero on June 23, 2003, 08:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (nimaim @ Jun 5 2003, 08:07 PM) |
| tonio, obviously pogo pins are not everyone's fav. option but if your looking for that no-solder type of solution, then DEFINITLY go with the X-ectuer 2 Lite Plus OR even the newest out, X-ecuter 2.1 Lite Plus ... it comes with the pogo pin addon and is one chip ... took me like 5 minutes to install on my v1.1 xbox and works like a charm, dunno what people are talking about misaligned because it's stuck there like glue, i can't even force it out without a screwdriver ... oh yea, make sure u have a 1.0-1.1 if you want a no-solder chip, if not (if have the 1.2) your screwed, you then HAVE to solder and no-solder chips are useless ... X2l+ over matrix tho, no comparison ... IMO anyway, soldering is obviously the best solution but pogo pins are great IMO, esp. since it's so easy to install ... |
The X2.1 Lite Plus works fine on the 1.2.
Post by: XanTium on October 20, 2002, 08:39:00 AM
It all depends what you expect , what your soldering skills are and what price you want to pay.
For a comparisontable of the modchips :
http://www.xbox-scene.com/modchips.php
Post by: _maxxx on July 11, 2003, 01:15:00 PM
does a bad flash mean lost chip if u don't have the hardware programmer?
Post by: Xeero on July 12, 2003, 04:50:00 PM
| QUOTE (_maxxx @ Jul 11 2003, 05:08 PM) |
| ''The nice thing about a hardware programmer is if you flash your mod chip with an incorrect bios, you can still fix it with the programmer. Without a hardware programmer, you cannot fix a bad flash.'' does a bad flash mean lost chip if u don't have the hardware programmer? |
If that's the only chip you have, you're pretty much SOL. However, if you have access to a) another mod chip with pogo pins; or
another chip and a motherboard with a pin header installl; you can perform a hot swap. This would require booting EvoX or the flashing software with the good chip installed, then swapping the chips, and flashing the bad one.
Post by: CubeD on September 18, 2003, 10:59:00 PM
Post by: ShinSeany on October 02, 2003, 10:22:00 AM
Post by: Xeero on October 11, 2003, 05:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (ShinSeany @ Oct 2 2003, 02:15 PM) |
| It's been quite a while since I've done a modchip install. I've installed the Matrix chip into two v1.0 xboxes, but I've been commissioned to do two more installs on higher version xboxes. My question is can I install a no-solder modchip into higher version xboxes (like from v1.1 to v1.5)? |
The Matrix chip and X2.0 pogos will work on 1.0/1.1.
X2.2 pogos will work on 1.0/1.1/1.2/1.3/1.4/1.5
NOTE: in a 1.5, you'll probably have to manually route +5V and GND to the bottomside of the LPC points to use them as intended - MS removed them from the LPC points in this build. This will will require some soldering (4 points).
This post has been edited by Xeero: Oct 11 2003, 12:50 PM
Post by: daviefresh1775 on December 06, 2003, 10:34:00 PM
Post by: Corspegrinder99 on December 07, 2003, 02:54:00 PM
Post by: Xeero on December 07, 2003, 04:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (daviefresh1775 @ Dec 7 2003, 03:27 AM) |
| has any of this changed??? |
Nope, nothing has changed. It's still your decision.
Post by: pipes59 on December 13, 2003, 01:19:00 PM
I have purchased a new Xbox for my son for xmas to replace his PS1. (which I chipped before it was even ever plugged in).
I've been reading the FAQ and forum here for about a week to see how to chip the Xbox. My god it's gotten complicated.
OK, first off since its a new Xbox I am assuming it to be a ver 1.5 or at least a 1.4. Therefore my understanding is the only bios that will work is the X2 4979 256K. Or did I misunderstand the bios chart I found? I was thinking about the X bIT mod but if there only a 256K bios useful guess I don't really need a multi bios. My soldering skills are excellent and would prefer to solder for reliability purposes. Can anyone recomment a mod for me? And I don't care about $10 here or there as long as its a reliable mod. I also want to upgrade the hard drive to 120GB as so the disks can be transfered and put away. (My son treats his disks like shit) Also so I can download games and load them up to HD. Any recommendations would be much appreciated......
Post by: Ludicrous on December 17, 2003, 08:01:00 AM
Thanks!
Post by: Ludicrous on December 17, 2003, 08:15:00 AM
Thanks!
Post by: s_cube on December 18, 2003, 10:59:00 AM
pipes & ludicrous: When I first got into xbox modding, I was a big fan of the xecutor 2.2 series. The xecutor 2.2lite w/ a header pin install is/was the only chip necessary for xbox modding. It is no longer available, and I personally refuse to goto that usb power-addon x2.3 thing. xecutor chips,however are by far the most popular, IMO with good support found here at xbox-scene. . Of course, now that the x2.2lite is gone, I'm looking towards cheapmods ... AppleX chip perhaps. thats just me though....
s_cube