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Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: nobodyimportant on January 24, 2004, 03:04:00 PM
QUOTE (dtechlogic @ Dec 16 2003, 06:50 PM)
Well guys i don't know why you have problem with dashboard when you do the update. I have never encounter any problem with mine when it does the update.

If you have a mod chip, you won't see any problems.  But if you are doing soft mods with fonts or audio hacks, they won't work anymore because the update fixes the flaws they exploit.
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: spinaroonisucka on January 25, 2004, 12:14:00 AM
OK heres the deal. I will try to simplify this matter. When you turn on your xbox, the ms bios will load the file "xboxdash.xbe" This is the ms dashboard. When you install a mod chip, you have a number of options, the easiest one being - download a bios that has a different boot sequence. (I.E. The Xecuter 2 bios). These bios's will boot the executable (the xboxdash.xbe file) in a different order. Example: My Xecuter 2 bios will boot "evoxdash.xbe" first, then if that is not found it will load up "xboxdash.xbe" Now, on the root of my C drive, I installed Evox. I named the xbe file "evoxdash.xbe" and left the ms one named "xboxdash.xbe" What this does is allow me to turn off my switch and load up the ms bios. If i turn the switch on, my xecutor 2 bios will load up "evoxdash.xbe" becasue that is first in the boot sequence, which is evox. If i turn the switch off, the ms bios will load "xboxdash.xbe" which is the ms dashboard. I am completly safe from the update.xbe file. When you run the update.xbe file it will update your "xboxdash.xbe" file.

Now here is where people will nuke their dash.

1. they install a modchip, or use an exploit or whatever other means to mod their xbox
2. they install their new dash, and it is named "xboxdash.xbe" (their ms-dash might be renamed to "msdash.xbe" or something else
3. they run the update.xbe file, by downloading new maps, content, etc..
4. the update.xbe file overwrites the previous "xboxdash.xbe" file (which is your dash) with a new ms dash
5. they turn on the xbox and the MS dash loads up even with the chip enabled.


Now here is how to fix it.

You are still running your downloaded bios. The update did not affect this at all. You should still be able to run homebrew code (evox,avalaunch, etc..)
1.turn on the xbox
2.insert an evox boot disk ( you should still be running your bios at this point and therefor be able to read the evox disk)
3.ftp to your xbox, rename your ms dash (xboxdash.xbe) file to something else and reupload your dash  and name it "xboxdash.xbe"
4.eject the evox disk
5.restart the xbox
you should be fine again at this point

to prevent this from happening agian
1. flash your bios with one that supports a new boot sequence
2. Name your dash to one of the options in the boot order before "xboxdash.xbe"
3. Name your ms-dash back to "xboxdash.xbe"

Sorry for the long post, hope this clarifies the problem for some people
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: spinaroonisucka on January 25, 2004, 12:19:00 AM
Moral of the story: keep an evox boot disk handy. Splinter cell got me with the dash update once. Then i popped in my evox boot disk and re-uploaded my dash. Then quickly got a bios with a new boot sequence
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: Bwsk8 on February 29, 2004, 02:17:00 PM
Here is two more.

Project Gotham Racing 2
Outlaw Volleyball
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: derekmasses on April 22, 2004, 03:25:00 PM
ok...i have the problem, where my original msdash wont work, i get the 21 error code, but evox works with no errors. so i cant turn off the modchip or goto my original xboxdash...i think this is what everyoen is talking about... so do i have to fallow the instructions from that one guy who posted??? or do something else?
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: ralphwiggums on May 19, 2004, 04:13:00 PM
questions that need clearing up.....

what if i re-copy over the entire c partition from a good drive?

does the update modify the kernel in anyway?


( i guess that if it mods the original eeprom, i could always reflash over w/my Xenium backup...)
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: b-gates on June 05, 2004, 02:32:00 PM
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Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: b-gates on June 07, 2004, 01:31:00 AM
Cool, thanks for your reply man.

Unfortunately the guy who chipped my xbox didn't back up my C. Said he forgot. However I can get my friend to send me a copy of his on CD.  Reckon that would work?

I already have evoX sitting in an email account somewhere so I don't need to look for it. Just d/l the fecker and burn it to CD again.

The other thing I have is SlaYer's Auto installer (says 1 on one disk and 2.8 on the other disk) which both have evoX too. It also has an option to "rebuild retail HD"

Would that fix it for me? I was going to do it but I was worried I'd loose all my game saves so I thought I'd come on here and see whagwan.

hopefully I can get it fixed and working will little trouble and without loosing anything or fuckling anything else up!

Also, once I do get it sorted, can I still go on Live with the chip off and with original games or has this messed it up for that permanently?

I'll go buy a proper crossover cable tonight too.

Any help is appreciated cos I don't know wtf I'm doing!

cheers

Lee
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: Ha|o on June 07, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
spinaroonisucka's little 'clarifying' post really did clarify things. What I don't get is why would your dashboard get nuked in the first place? From what spinaroonisucka said, you can only get it nuked if your dash has the xboxdash.xbe name. Simply do what he said (rename the new dash and leave the ms one the same), and you should be fine. Is this correct or am I missing something here?
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: b-gates on June 07, 2004, 02:54:00 PM
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Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: nfs911 on June 09, 2004, 06:09:00 PM
i palyed star wars clone wars, counter-strike, rainbow six three and still no dash problem, of cour I got unleashx but its called evoxdash,xbe
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: joao_pm on June 10, 2004, 02:17:00 PM
I just solved the problem on my box.
My problem was simmilar to one reported earlier in this thread: after Ninja Gaiden, I could no longer switch to my msdash, although evox and everything else seemed to work. I have boxplorer installed on my harddisk so I started it from evox. Luckily, I had two files on my x:\ drive, xboxdash.xbe and msxboxdash.xbe which were originally the same, although evox.ini used the latter to load my msdash. This file was probably updated accidentaly, but the other one was fine. Of course, all I had to do was copy xboxdash.xbe to msdxboxash.xbe and it worked.
So, before re-installing everything, why not try to replace this file?!
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: camaroman33 on June 11, 2004, 07:31:00 AM
i am trying to update my ms dash because i think i nuked it. but when i try to update the software with one of those games nothing happens. how can i get the correct files another way??
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: fish123456 on June 16, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
Ninja Gaiden zapped my xbox all to he|| as well.  Only thing is, I'm not using a chipped box.  I soft-modded mine using the mech assault save game exploit and installed linux.  I don't actually get an error when I start mine up, rather, it reboots forever.  It begins to display the dashboard (you can make out some of the green circles that fly around when it loads), but then it freezes and reboots.

Since I don't have it modded, I haven't backed up anything on the disk.  This is in part b/c I'm a noob.  So, without meaning to sound dumb (if it's not too late already), is there a way to restore the C:\ drive w/o a backup from my specific drive, meaning, my friend's drive?  If so, does this require that my friend and/or I have a mod-chip installed?  I'm guessing it probably does, but I'm constantly surprised at what everyone here is doing to their xboxes.

Thanks in advance!!!
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: jonny_eh on July 05, 2004, 09:40:00 AM
Without access to your dash or games, or a modchip, the xbox is useless (unless you get a modchip).

A good way to protect yourself from accidentally accessing live is to just unhook the ethernet cable plugged into your xbox. All the games that I have seen grey out the menu item for accessing xbox live (and therefore messing up your system) when the xbox isn't plugged into a network.


I had the opposite problem, I needed the update because I wanted to do a soft 'sploit with a usb memory stick and a usb->xbox keyboard dongle. The thing is, you need the live update in order for the usb memory stick to work.

Hope that helps.
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: sand20042 on July 10, 2004, 02:51:00 PM
new bios can load evox before m$dash you don't need to rename original one leve it name xboxdash.xbe just only rename evox (defult.xbe ) to evoxdash.xbe that's all
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: HateMan on July 12, 2004, 01:34:00 PM
yeah your box wont boot to your m$ dash because its named wrong, rename it as such: xboxdash.xbe, just like it was before you touched it.  And thats really it, just rename your evox dashboard to evoxdash.xbe, any of the later bioses will boot dashboards in an order, and the evoxdash.xbe is higher on the list than xboxdash.xbe.  Try just renaming it.
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: malawi on July 21, 2004, 10:34:00 AM
if you do have a toasted ms dashboard.. how do you get it back?
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: snotmonster on July 24, 2004, 07:54:00 AM
i think the new bios just doesn't work with mods, so it gives error 21 when you try to run it. so even if it didn't download over your evox (which was named msdash or whatever) you would not be able to run it anymore.

apparently slayers has the option to rebuild the retail HD which does include the older dash version which still runs on modded boxes. i haven't tried it but when i get slayers i will just copy the dash file by itself so i don't disturb the rest of my current configuration. no sense in asking for trouble!
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: VashGX on July 27, 2004, 08:04:00 AM
i updated my xbox acci tried to soft-mod my box and it wouldnt work of corse..i was wondering if there was a away to undo the update cuz i really want evox and i dont have enough money for another box
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: TheRedPhoenix on August 04, 2004, 11:32:00 AM
Wait, so let me get this straight. If you are not connected to Live, then your Xbox can't get nuked?
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: g_townstud on August 25, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
I ran the update dashboard on one of my games and since then my chip hasn't work, boot disc won't work, ftp won't work, and just about everything good about my xbox went to shit.  Does anybody know if a way to fix this problem.  I have the original dashboard saved on my computer and another one that goes by the name evox something:).  Do i need to just buy a new xbox, or is there a way to change thedashboard back?
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: Gnome34 on February 12, 2003, 02:56:00 PM
Why did this thread die?
 I have found this file (update.xbe) also on NFL2K3.
Does it only destroy your dashboard if it isn't the original ms dashboard?

 gnome34
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: nautiazn85 on February 15, 2003, 07:20:00 PM
The update is also available on the CD provided with XBLIVE.
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: MeNaCe911 on March 06, 2003, 04:50:00 PM
nfl 2k3
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: ladyironess on March 24, 2003, 03:28:00 PM
MechAssault has the files: update.xbe
                                         dashupdate.xbe
Are both of these files the ones I should be on the look at for? Or is it just the update.xbe file?
If the culprit file is removed, will the back-up ,then be safe, and will it be playable?
If the original game containing the bad file is played, will it also Nuke the dashboard, or does the nuking only happen with the back-up?
Thanx...
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: jherre6 on April 01, 2003, 11:22:00 AM
So how would one go about ensuring this never happens?

Just delete the update.xbe file?


Jason
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: HSDEMONZ on April 05, 2003, 05:09:00 PM
YUP!

Remove the UPDATE.XBE.  There are other files you can remove to protect yourself from this.

Do a search!

However.. simply having these UPDATe files still on your RETAIL GAMES, BACKUP GAMES on DISK, or BACKUPS on the HD will not screw you up!

Only activating the GO LIVE feature, or activating optional DOWNLOAD options like go online and get more MAPS, TEXTURES, etc. will cause you to ruin a standard install of EVOC on the C drive using older method of EVOX install.

These days.. Ideally.. you may want to consider new BIOS options.. like renamed DASHBOARDS, or F BOOT options.  Both can help protect you from grief cause by accidental LIVE updates to dashboards.

For more info.. read OTHER FAQ's, and search on topics using the following terms..

LIVE
UPDATE

also read  any guides and tutorials about BIOS upgrades., and EVOX installs to F drive!

Please.. no MORE replies to this thread in FAQ!
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: gundamhr on June 10, 2003, 01:56:00 PM
brute force
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: Birdy2k2 on June 26, 2003, 01:44:00 AM
QUOTE (gundamhr @ Jun 10 2003, 09:49 PM)
brute force

Games that have the update:

Capcom vs SNK 2 EO
Moto GP 2 (This one's tricky, it likes touse your live account as default profile.)
Phantasy Star Online Ep 1 & 2
MidTown Madness 3
Tetris Worlds Online
Soldier of FOrtune 2
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Midnight Club II
NHL 2k3
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: panzernights on October 18, 2002, 04:33:00 PM
This little file can nuke your MS Dashboard if your not too careful so in this thread we compose a list of all games that contain the Update.

Which games contain the update file that can Nuke my MS Dashboard If I have EvoX installed?

Whacked!
Splinter Cell
NBA 2K3
NFL Fever 2003


(to be continued.)                                    
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: XanTium on October 21, 2002, 12:52:00 PM
Unreal Championship                                    
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: M3_DeL on October 22, 2002, 05:42:00 PM
The file is called update.xbe     just thought that might be useful to throw in                                    
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: Trizcuit on October 28, 2002, 11:56:00 PM
:jester: I would like to also add the new install disk that was sent to beta testers.                                        
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: Giovanni8089 on August 06, 2003, 08:53:00 AM
Inside Pitch 2003
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: muno on August 06, 2003, 12:54:00 PM
Burnout2 also

And i did run the dashupdate :-(

Now my original dashboard is one with XB live...... !! and i can't replace it with the original.
If i do i get the error 13.

OK i still can get into Evox, it's not a very big problem.

But does someone have an idea how to put the orignal back.
Or anyone an idea which files are modified when running the dashupdate?

Muno (Netherlands)
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: mind_warp on August 13, 2003, 07:57:00 AM
SW: KotOR too...

I gotz nuked... what happens is the original MS Dash is no longer readable and you'll get an 'Error 21' if u try to run it (for CDs DVDs or just regular loading)... If you're not Live, it doesn't really matter... Just load up DVD-X 2 (Dongle Free!) and XBox Media Player.


Now here's my question... Is there a solution or am i permanentaly msxboxdash free?
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: FcukedBox on November 11, 2002, 01:15:00 PM
Toejam And Earl                                    
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: rooicity on November 15, 2002, 05:46:00 AM
Ghost Recon                                    
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: dripgoss on November 15, 2002, 09:27:00 AM
Am I correct in thinking if you have Evox2.5 w/ ybox hack, it won't kill your original dash?                                    
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: Lovin It! on December 10, 2003, 11:27:00 AM
kindve a noob here but I would say(it hasnt been said yet),duh,...any XBOX LIVE enabled game could potentially harm your evox install
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: brsandlin on December 11, 2003, 02:45:00 PM
The game "XIII" has a dash update and update.exe
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: Haemarroid on December 15, 2003, 12:50:00 PM
Colin McCrae 4 - if you choose to install XBoxLive
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: shanafan on December 15, 2003, 04:21:00 PM
All Xbox Live games have the dashupdate.xbe executable.
Title: MS Dashboard Update Games
Post by: dtechlogic on December 16, 2003, 08:50:00 AM
Well guys i don't know why you have problem with dashboard when you do the update. I have never encounter any problem with mine when it does the update. My evox works perfectly and i have all my apps in their folder and nothing has been changed in my ini and the only things i do see in there that is knew are for xbox live and i been enjoying playing my games online to and have downloaded  new levels for games that i and like to play crimson skies high road to revenge.