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Title: Reset Switch
Post by: ronin149 on January 26, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
What is the yellow wire used for?  Allow me to quote "Hacking the XBox" by Bunnie Huang:

"The video sync signal is a 3.3V CMOS or TTL-compatible signal.  It is a basic 15.734 kHz positive polarity pulse train synchronized to the horizontal line time of the composite video output, with a single longer pulse at the beginning of every video field.  This signal enable peripherals that are pointed at the TV screen, such as a light pen or a light gun for shooting games, to derive position information."

What does this mean?  A device that as of yet does not exist would use this signal combined with a lens & photodetector to determine where at the screen you are pointing.  I doubt that it will ever be utilized at this point, unless the Linux guys write something to use it.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: supertrolly on July 16, 2004, 08:33:00 PM
haha ronin you beat me to it i have the same book and was going to answer the question... wink.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: srstakey on September 03, 2004, 08:48:00 PM
ferrell-

I don't know if you are still offering the switches...but, I was wondering do you have any radio shack part numbers, etc. for the switch?

If not, all I need is a REALLY small push button switch, am I correct?  Any help would be appreciated...I'm a newbie when it comes to electronics like this stuff.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on September 22, 2002, 02:51:00 AM
I liked the idea about adding a reset switch to your game controller, and I followed the great tutorial put out by the Xboxmod08 team for modding the internals of the Xbox for this to work.  I didn't like the idea of modding a controller with a reset switch and always having to have that controller in port 1.  I started to think about a different way of doing this mod, I opened up one of my controllers and started proping around and found that the yellow and black wires went to the memory card ports on the controller as well, at least on the Official Xbox controller I have.  I bought a Mad Catz memory card, if you look into the end where the connectors are, you can see 5 contacts and a plastic "key" (circled in red) seperating them, 3 on one side, 2 on the other.  The 2 connectors (circled in yellow) are the ones that are needed.  Solder a wire to each pad inside the memory card, and connect the other ends, one to each side of a momentary switch.  I drilled a hole in the plastic and routed the wires to the outside of the case before soldering the switch and then just wrapped with electrical tape, not the best looking mod, but it works as a reset switch in any controller that you could plug into port 1.  There might be other memory cards out there with more room inside of it where a switch might reside, but my local Walmart had only a selection of 1 choose from.  And the added bonus is that it still functions as a memory card!

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(IMG:http://www.cableone.net/tsmith2/xbox/cover on-sm.jpg)                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: The Legendary Rob on September 22, 2002, 03:57:00 AM
cool! this shoujld be added to tutorials section. write up a formal tutorial and try turning it in to xantium or the other admins                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Syrus on September 22, 2002, 08:28:00 AM
Awsome man biggrin.gif Useful and looks great too, Make a tutorial and send it in if you have time/get bored smile.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Dark Schneider on September 22, 2002, 08:54:00 AM
That is so damn cool! It's amazing what we can do when we get bored sometimes isn't it!

I think I'm going to give that one a go since I never use the damn memory card anyway like I should. If it gets nuked then it won't be a huge deal.

As far as the electrical tape...who cares that's just a sweet prototype! I'm sure that I could get a template and form my own plastic casing that would allow the switch to be internal like I know you wanted it to be.  Possibly even a smaller switch that could be mounted at the top of the cards case or inset as such.

Might even be able to make a quick prototype of it out of fiberglass and see how it goes. Damn wish I had time now to work on it!

Or hell if you get some time you could form an epoxy resin shell around the outside of the switch you have on there now and paint it black. Yeh that would be the ticket!

Posted by: Dark Schneider  Sep 22 2002, 03:54 PM

                                    That is so damn cool! It's amazing what we can do when we get bored sometimes isn't it!

I think I'm going to give that one a go since I never use the damn memory card anyway like I should. If it gets nuked then it won't be a huge deal.

As far as the electrical tape...who cares that's just a sweet prototype! I'm sure that I could get a template and form my own plastic casing that would allow the switch to be internal like I know you wanted it to be.  Possibly even a smaller switch that could be mounted at the top of the cards case or inset as such.

Might even be able to make a quick prototype of it out of fiberglass and see how it goes. Damn wish I had time now to work on it!

Or hell if you get some time you could form an epoxy resin shell around the outside of the switch you have on there now and paint it black. Yeh that would be the ticket!

Title: Reset Switch
Post by: ajh on September 22, 2002, 07:10:00 PM
Great post!

Please u/l a formal tutorial for all of us, we are grateful in advance.
                                   
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Drew826 on September 22, 2002, 07:13:00 PM
wow...that's a great idea for anyone who doesn't feel like opening up their gamepad, or for people who switch back and forth between different types and don't want to put switches in all of them.
Good Job!                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: bearauto on September 23, 2002, 10:49:00 AM
Wow, this is an incredible find!  How did you figure all this out?                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on September 23, 2002, 11:16:00 AM
I have never written a tutorial, so, if I do one for this, it will take me a few days.  

bearauto:  Didn't take much to figure out.  I had opened my controller, drilled a hole for the switch and was ready to solder, I had my meter out and I was checking if I had the right points when a thought came to me, "if this bunch of wires comes all the way from the Xbox console, I wonder if they go any further".  So I just started checking for continuity, I knew ground had to be there, and when I found that the yellow wire was there also, I thought "why not just mod the memory card instead".  That is pretty much all there was to it.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 03:40:00 PM
thats simple logic, this shows how lazy we are after all this time, NOW we're starting to open up a mem card. Yeah if the mem card receives that wire is just a problem of modding the mem card, awesome discovery, now i want a reset button.

Hey btw, anybody thinking of selling modded mem cards thru ebay or something, it would be a nice deal, i'd buy one.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 04:03:00 PM
too bad u still need to di some stuff inside the xbox, and the mem card still has to be in port 1. We need to fix that.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: socrates on September 23, 2002, 07:47:00 PM
What do you mean DI some stuff in the xbox? i thought all ya had to do was just solder the two wires like he shows into the memory card and that was it?...............am i missing somthing here?                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: bearauto on September 23, 2002, 08:05:00 PM
QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 23 2002, 10:03 PM)
too bad u still need to di some stuff inside the xbox, and the mem card still has to be in port 1. We need to fix that.

                                    Yeah, explain please...                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Dark Schneider on September 23, 2002, 08:37:00 PM
Think I missed something also...flew right over my head!....wait yeh he is right, you still have to enable this process to work inside the Xbox itself.

Should have my Mod down tomorrow or so it seems using the standard Xbox supplied mem card with a switch at the top.

Posted by: Dark Schneider  Sep 24 2002, 03:37 AM

                                    Think I missed something also...flew right over my head!....wait yeh he is right, you still have to enable this process to work inside the Xbox itself.

Should have my Mod down tomorrow or so it seems using the standard Xbox supplied mem card with a switch at the top.

Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on September 23, 2002, 08:39:00 PM
I quote from my original post:

"I liked the idea about adding a reset switch to your game controller, and I followed the great tutorial put out by the Xboxmod08 team for modding the internals of the Xbox for this to work."

Notice that I stated that I modded the "internals of the xbox" you still have to cut the yellow wire inside the Xbox on port one and jump it to whichever point on the video connector on the motherboard to make this mod work.  Follow the tutorial for putting a reset switch in your game controller for the instructions on modding the Xbox, which you can find in the tutorials section of xbox-scene.  I figured this mod out so that I could use any controller I wanted, with the modded memory card of course.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: kkattfish on September 23, 2002, 08:40:00 PM
brilliant, i never use my memory card either i now see a use for it other than collecting dust.  way to go bro!!!                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: bearauto on September 23, 2002, 08:54:00 PM
Ah ok...will check it out, thank you very much.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: deka on September 23, 2002, 09:33:00 PM
Excellent Find....Very well done.


I must say, I find it very hard to believe that M$ conveniently place an extra wire in the controller. Which so happens to be used by memory cards too. Out of curiosity, has anyone completed the reset switch project (Controller or Memory Card) while testing the XBL service? Maybe the headset or the encrypted memory card uses that wire for something.                                      
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 09:44:00 PM
WTF DO THESE ASSHOLES THINK THEY ARE, FUCKIG GARBAGE!!



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ME: hey
Brijesh: Hello and welcome to the Xbox Interactive Online Support, my name is Brijesh. How may I help you?
ME: whats the yellow wire in the xbox, that is connected from the memcard, to controller, and goes down to the xbox.
ME: i cut that wire and nothing at all has changed
ME: yeah yeha i know, u dont knwo about this
ME: of course
ME: like always
Brijesh: Why would you cut a wire on the Xbox.
ME: i cut it in an extension cable for the xbox controller, that i bought to test this out, i also opened the whole system and saw that it was an extra form all the usb wires, and thats it goes even to the mem card, so i cut it, and everything still works fine
ME: as i thought
ME: is there gonna be any use for this at all?
ME: its a waste
Brijesh: What are you trying to accomplish by doing this?
ME: te prove that the yellow wire doesnt do ANYthing
Brijesh: Is there anything else I can help you with?
ME: i want you to tell me why the yellow wire is there
ME: or you dont know anything as always, justa awaste of my time?
Brijesh: We do not know we are not technical support.
Brijesh: Please note that these chats are recorded as well with your IP address. If you continue this you will be classified as a disruptive chat and this chat will be taken to our management where they may take legal action on you and also contact your Internet Provider to take action also
Brijesh: http://www.xbox.com/termsofuse.htm
ME: should have said it earier, whats this then?
ME: hmmm... that oage tells me nothin about a yellow wire
ME: page*
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Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 09:56:00 PM
MOFOS!!!! ppl like this designe dthe xbox?!!!



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hOLA: hey
hOLA: sup
Patrick: Hello and welcome to Xbox interactive online chat support! How may I help you today?
hOLA: whats the yellow wire for?, i asked this question earlier and the guy freaked out, and hung up on me, what kind of service is this?, anyways, ive cut an extension cable and say that there is a yellow wire, so i cut it, since i know it was extra, and everything works fine still
hOLA: the wir ethat even goes to the mem card
hOLA: like i thought it still works perfect of course, but my question is will there be a functionality for this in the future, or is it just to confuse or whatever
Patrick: I don't understand why you would willingly cut this wire.
hOLA: because im a technician, and i go by logic, and use logic, and that yellow wire isnt logic
hOLA: hello?
hOLA: same thing like the other guy, do you ahve an answer?
Patrick: Then if you're a technician, then you would know cutting wires and altering parts of your Xbox without checking any form of schematic or consulting the Technical Support department first is a rather precarious way to damage your equipment.
Patrick: If you want the answer as to the use of that wire that you've cut, you'll have to consult with our Technical Support department.
hOLA: what is this by the way then?
hOLA: gaming support?
Patrick: We're here for general (pre-sales) Xbox questions, game release info and some Xbox.com site navigation.
hOLA: ooohhh, should have known you dont knkow anything because of that, thanks btw, and sorry!
Patrick: You're welcome!
Patrick: I hope that you have found our session today helpful.For your convenience and future reference, you will receive by e-mail a detailed transcript of our chat, including all site links. Thank you for using Xbox Interactive Online Support. If you need further assistance, please come back and visit us again.
hOLA: whats the technical support contact
Patrick: . You can contact them toll-free @ 1 -800-4MY-XBOX ( 1-800-469-9269 ). It is open from 9am to 1am, eastern standard time, 7 days a week.
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BTW, i aint calling that number                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 09:58:00 PM
they dont know anything about this that they are so horrified i cut a wire????, then they must be dying when they see what im doing it for.                                      
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 10:25:00 PM
danm, theyr all the same robot, they say the same stuff and are trained to stop talking to you after you say you painted a heart on your xbox, since thats a modification, and its totally forbidded by god. They also take forever to copy and paste the same lines of text they always use, you gotta see how lowng they take to tell you "please call costumer service" i ha dthe feeling the quire was jacking off while i talked. They suck, i just wanna see what the famous technical info number will tell me.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 10:28:00 PM
i would love to ask them so many questions and play with them, but by now there's prolly a satellite over me, and bill gates is lookking at my Ballz.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 10:45:00 PM
i bet you bill gats wouldnt know what that wire is for !!! hahahahha!!! laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: deka on September 23, 2002, 10:47:00 PM
Jesus Christ-

Quit spamming the fucking boards man!                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 23, 2002, 10:48:00 PM
danm i was trying to help, sorry, i thouught this was an open discussion.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: deka on September 23, 2002, 10:59:00 PM
Yes, but 6 posts in a row? You could of easily made that into one post. Your discussions with XBCS were useless for us to see anyway. It wasen't informative whatsoever. I'm not trying to take anything out on you but I see spam no matter what forum I go to. It just drives me nuts.

Posted by: deka  Sep 24 2002, 05:59 AM

                                    Yes, but 6 posts in a row? You could of easily made that into one post. Your discussions with XBCS were useless for us to see anyway. It wasen't informative whatsoever. I'm not trying to take anything out on you but I see spam no matter what forum I go to. It just drives me nuts.

Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Drew826 on September 23, 2002, 11:00:00 PM
QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 24 2002, 12:28 AM)
i would love to ask them so many questions and play with them, but by now there's prolly a satellite over me, and bill gates is lookking at my Ballz.

                                    hahahaha. check it out live at http://www.gtacsballz.com  laugh.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: kkattfish on September 24, 2002, 12:37:00 AM
Quote
Drew826 Posted on Sep 23 2002, 08:53 PM
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i would love to ask them so many questions and play with them, but by now there's prolly a satellite over me, and bill gates is lookking at my Ballz.

hahahaha. check it out live at http://www.gtacsballz.com  

hahahah   laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 24, 2002, 06:25:00 AM
crap                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: N00bvin on September 24, 2002, 06:54:00 AM
You may have gotten a better response if you didn't sound like such an idiot talking to the rep.

You start off, saying that they aren't going to be able to help you... why should they?  They make work for M$, but they're people trying to do a job and not answer some punk kids question about a wire he CUT!?

Why would you even expect them to answer that question?  You've proven once again what a dumbass you can be. dry.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: deka on September 24, 2002, 03:24:00 PM
All dumbasses aside, I still think M$ has some plan for that wire. It's the only logical explanation. Even IF the wire was there for no reason, why would MadCatz waste their time soldering that same yellow wire to their memory card? It just seems strange to me. In lieu of that, My skepticism tells me to hold off on this project for a little while...                                      
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on September 24, 2002, 05:02:00 PM
Still, right now, a reset switch is more useful than a wire doing nothing.  There are a couple things that you could do to modify this hack even further, one is put a switch in the Xbox to select between "Original yellow wire mode" or "reset mode".  You could always change it back to the way it was, or use the yellow wire that is still functional off of a controller plugged into ports 2-4!  It really is about personal customization, being able to do whatever we want to the hardware to suit our own needs.  That is what's fun about all this!                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: majik655 on September 24, 2002, 10:58:00 PM
Question.

Say you JUST do the xbox console part and NOT the controller "yet"

does everything still work?

Meaning say you left out the memory card/controller mods..
will everything still work ok?  

                                   
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: x-power on September 25, 2002, 07:43:00 AM
WARNING: Poeples with "YELLOW" wire at the back of the motherboard xbox "ARE THE NEW XBOX v2"

Which mean they "can't  be chip it"
unstill new modchip v2 are made
                                   
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: x-power on September 25, 2002, 08:12:00 AM
also the Yellow wire is to transfter your IP (xbox live) number over the net alot quicker but also they can see what you have on the xbox hard drive & memory card.

                                   
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on September 25, 2002, 10:08:00 AM
x-power:  What are you talking about?  We are talking about the yellow wire in the game pad/port, not a wire at the back of a the motherboard, and this definitely has nothing to do with the so called "New Xbox v2".  Please read the whole thread before commenting!                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: x-power on September 25, 2002, 04:12:00 PM
QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 24 2002, 03:56 AM)
WTF DO THESE ASSHOLES THINK THEY ARE, FUCKIG GARBAGE!!



( ME has joined )
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ME: hey
Brijesh: Hello and welcome to the Xbox Interactive Online Support, my name is Brijesh. How may I help you?
ME: whats the yellow wire in the xbox, that is connected from the memcard, to controller, and goes down to the xbox.
ME: i cut that wire and nothing at all has changed
ME: yeah yeha i know, u dont knwo about this
ME: of course
ME: like always
Brijesh: Why would you cut a wire on the Xbox.
ME: i cut it in an extension cable for the xbox controller, that i bought to test this out, i also opened the whole system and saw that it was an extra form all the usb wires, and thats it goes even to the mem card, so i cut it, and everything still works fine
ME: as i thought
ME: is there gonna be any use for this at all?
ME: its a waste
Brijesh: What are you trying to accomplish by doing this?
ME: te prove that the yellow wire doesnt do ANYthing
Brijesh: Is there anything else I can help you with?
ME: i want you to tell me why the yellow wire is there
ME: or you dont know anything as always, justa awaste of my time?
Brijesh: We do not know we are not technical support.
Brijesh: Please note that these chats are recorded as well with your IP address. If you continue this you will be classified as a disruptive chat and this chat will be taken to our management where they may take legal action on you and also contact your Internet Provider to take action also
Brijesh: http://www.xbox.com/termsofuse.htm
ME: should have said it earier, whats this then?
ME: hmmm... that oage tells me nothin about a yellow wire
ME: page*
Brijesh: I hope that you have found our session today helpful.For your convenience and future reference, you will receive by e-mail a detailed transcript of our chat, including all site links. Thank you for using Xbox Interactive Online Support. If you need further assistance, please come back and visit us again.
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i was talking about this guy : GTac01


O.K !! Reset Switch hmmm not bad idea!! pop.gif

Posted by: x-power  Sep 25 2002, 11:12 PM

                                   

QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 24 2002, 03:56 AM)
WTF DO THESE ASSHOLES THINK THEY ARE, FUCKIG GARBAGE!!



( ME has joined )
( Brijesh has joined )
ME: hey
Brijesh: Hello and welcome to the Xbox Interactive Online Support, my name is Brijesh. How may I help you?
ME: whats the yellow wire in the xbox, that is connected from the memcard, to controller, and goes down to the xbox.
ME: i cut that wire and nothing at all has changed
ME: yeah yeha i know, u dont knwo about this
ME: of course
ME: like always
Brijesh: Why would you cut a wire on the Xbox.
ME: i cut it in an extension cable for the xbox controller, that i bought to test this out, i also opened the whole system and saw that it was an extra form all the usb wires, and thats it goes even to the mem card, so i cut it, and everything still works fine
ME: as i thought
ME: is there gonna be any use for this at all?
ME: its a waste
Brijesh: What are you trying to accomplish by doing this?
ME: te prove that the yellow wire doesnt do ANYthing
Brijesh: Is there anything else I can help you with?
ME: i want you to tell me why the yellow wire is there
ME: or you dont know anything as always, justa awaste of my time?
Brijesh: We do not know we are not technical support.
Brijesh: Please note that these chats are recorded as well with your IP address. If you continue this you will be classified as a disruptive chat and this chat will be taken to our management where they may take legal action on you and also contact your Internet Provider to take action also
Brijesh: http://www.xbox.com/termsofuse.htm
ME: should have said it earier, whats this then?
ME: hmmm... that oage tells me nothin about a yellow wire
ME: page*
Brijesh: I hope that you have found our session today helpful.For your convenience and future reference, you will receive by e-mail a detailed transcript of our chat, including all site links. Thank you for using Xbox Interactive Online Support. If you need further assistance, please come back and visit us again.
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i was talking about this guy : GTac01


O.K !! Reset Switch hmmm not bad idea!! pop.gif

Title: Reset Switch
Post by: N00bvin on September 26, 2002, 05:04:00 AM
Just completed this job... used a momentary switch from an old controller I had laying around (cut the switch out of the PCB)... used an M$ Memory card, because there was quite a lot of room on top... made a hole with my trusty dremel (which my wife keeps calling Doraemon for some reason), and ta-da, new reset switch.

Now, I had already had the inside mod done as part of a controller reset switch I had done earlier, so that wasn't a problem.  This is better, just so I can use ANY controller in port 1... I use an S-Controller, and all my friends use the Big-Un, so "yes" it makes a difference to me.  It's just a cool little project too.

As a side note, I have Tekki (Steel Battalion), and as far as I can tell, it still makes no difference not having the yellow wire hooked up.  What IS that yellow wire for?  I've heard Pen Light... but huh?  I'm sure I'll find out what it's for one day the hard way... but for now, my lazy ass will enjoy the reset button! beerchug.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 26, 2002, 06:44:00 AM
i kno, besides, if that Magical pen ever comes, or whatever, connect it to controller port 2-4!!!                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: ferrell on September 26, 2002, 10:51:00 AM
QUOTE (N00bvin @ Sep 26 2002, 10:57 AM)
...made a hole with my trusty dremel (which my wife keeps calling Doraemon for some reason), and ta-da, new reset switch.


LOL! Doraemon? Incidentally, my wife calls the Dremmel "momma's little helper" whatever that means...
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Title: Reset Switch
Post by: majik655 on September 26, 2002, 12:18:00 PM
QUOTE (ferrell @ Sep 26 2002, 04:51 PM)


LOL! Doraemon? Incidentally, my wife calls the Dremmel "momma's little helper" whatever that means...
....

                                    HAHA  thats hillarious  smile.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: majik655 on September 26, 2002, 01:27:00 PM
Can anyone please state what guage of wire to use?

1. What guage of wire in the xbox for the one connection in there.

2. what guage of wire in the memory card or controller ??


30 guage?  hopefully we can use bigger lol  smile.gif

THANK YOU!
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Dark Schneider on September 26, 2002, 04:37:00 PM
QUOTE (ferrell @ Sep 26 2002, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE (N00bvin @ Sep 26 2002, 10:57 AM)
...made a hole with my trusty dremel (which my wife keeps calling Doraemon for some reason), and ta-da, new reset switch.


LOL! Doraemon? Incidentally, my wife calls the Dremmel "momma's little helper" whatever that means...
....

                                    You sure that's a Dremel you've got there? How many D size batteries does it take! laugh.gif  beerchug.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on September 26, 2002, 04:31:00 PM
I am not sure what guage I used, I just stole some solid copper wire from an extra piece of CAT-5 Lan cable that I had laying around.                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: ferrell on September 27, 2002, 06:32:00 PM
Well, I took Gunr's http://xbox-scene.fxp.info/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=6134&s=514ba7193898073e3e6e3208dd21aad3 and put a reset switch in my MS memory card. The switch is tiny and sits flush inside the casing of the memory card. No accidental resets, yet the button is very easy to press with a liight push of a fingernail. I'm quite pleased with the result, and was able to pick up a whole boatload of these switches. I'll be selling them at cost if anyone is interested. Please see webpage for details.

user posted image

To see the entire installation process with pics go here...

http://www24.brinkster.com/411gb/reset.htm

or

http://411gb.50megs.com/reset.htm

(Lets see how long it takes for the servers to shut down tongue.gif)

If anyone wants to donate server space, PLEASE PM me!

ferrell

Posted by: ferrell  Sep 28 2002, 01:32 AM

                                    Well, I took Gunr's http://xbox-scene.fxp.info/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=6134&s=514ba7193898073e3e6e3208dd21aad3 and put a reset switch in my MS memory card. The switch is tiny and sits flush inside the casing of the memory card. No accidental resets, yet the button is very easy to press with a liight push of a fingernail. I'm quite pleased with the result, and was able to pick up a whole boatload of these switches. I'll be selling them at cost if anyone is interested. Please see webpage for details.

user posted image

To see the entire installation process with pics go here...

http://www24.brinkster.com/411gb/reset.htm

or

http://411gb.50megs.com/reset.htm

(Lets see how long it takes for the servers to shut down tongue.gif)

If anyone wants to donate server space, PLEASE PM me!

ferrell

Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on September 27, 2002, 06:56:00 PM
hey if u use paypal ill buy one of those switches right now.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: ferrell on September 27, 2002, 07:21:00 PM
QUOTE (GTac01 @ Sep 28 2002, 12:49 AM)
hey if u use paypal ill buy one of those switches right now.

                                    Well, since I have premier account, paypal's gonna charge me $0.30 for each transaction. Since I'l be providing the postage and envelope, let's make it an even $2.00 shipped for anyone who wants to pay with paypal.

If you want a switch, and want to pay via paypal, please PM me for my paypal email account.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on September 27, 2002, 08:30:00 PM
ferrell, yours turned out awsome!  That switch I found was the smallest they had that I could find at Radio Shack.  I am glad that I inspired this, mine was just thrown together to see if it would work, I knew there would be some good looking ones showing up sooner or later.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: N00bvin on September 28, 2002, 06:17:00 AM
Gunr... it's all you bro for making the catch... THIS is the kind of stuff we need!!!

Ferrell is "gifted" in the ways of creating!  ...which was shown with his HDD setup! smile.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: opjose on September 30, 2002, 02:00:00 AM
This is a great idea, however I have a concern about this...

Does anyone know if these lines actually bring out the CPU "reset" strobe lines?

While possible it's fairly unlikely that this is the case. Given that, what is actually causing the CPU reset? A ground short? Ugh not good if that is the case.

Does anyone actually know?
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on September 30, 2002, 12:00:00 PM
It simulates the changing of video modes.  Say while the Xbox is running, you remove the standard A/V cable and plug in the HiDef pack, it will reboot the xbox into the new mode.  With this reset mod, it grounds the pin at the A/V connector on the MB, making it think that a new type of connector was installed and it reboots.  I don't think this should harm anything, that is my personal opinion though, I am not an electronics genius.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: opjose on September 30, 2002, 03:26:00 PM
But that is a great reply.

This begs the question: Is the Xbox made to accept AV changes on the fly?

I sorta doubt that the AV connectors are optically or otherwise isolated to prevent damage to the Xbox's IC's...

So the "fear factor" still stands....
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Twopecker on October 04, 2002, 11:16:00 AM
just wanted to give a shout out to ferrel......i got my switch in the mail from him today.  Works PERFECT.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: ferrell on October 04, 2002, 12:39:00 PM
QUOTE (Twopecker @ Oct 4 2002, 05:09 PM)
just wanted to give a shout out to ferrel......i got my switch in the mail from him today.  Works PERFECT.

                                    Got any pics? I'm curious to see how yours turned out!
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on October 04, 2002, 06:30:00 PM
i got mine also!!! thanks!!!
i wanna do this so bad im gonna do some stuff right now. to the controller, i got 2, hehe. Thanks!!
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: ferrell on October 04, 2002, 09:04:00 PM
QUOTE (GTac01 @ Oct 5 2002, 12:23 AM)
i got mine also!!! thanks!!!
i wanna do this so bad im gonna do some stuff right now. to the controller, i got 2, hehe. Thanks!!

                                    Hey, how did the packaging handle the cross country trip?
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on October 04, 2002, 10:02:00 PM
perfect, everything perfect, now... the only problem is.... i CANT SOLDER!!. darn, hehe, im gonna do it to the controller, im gonna put the button outside, and im gonna use the mem car's points. lets see how it does.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Twopecker on October 05, 2002, 12:17:00 PM
I was actually impressed with the shipping...I was expecting a switch in an enveloped.  two envelopes, one padded....I dont think much would happen to that little switch.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: badmonkey on October 10, 2002, 10:52:00 AM
Just modded my memory card, and I must say excellent idea. Dunno why anyone would do it to the controller instead. I got my switch out of an old psx mega memory card. Figured these would be the obvious choice for fitting into a memory card. smile.gif Anyway these can be found pretty cheap used at EB's and Gamestops.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Hidden on June 20, 2003, 06:02:00 AM
QUOTE
QUOTE (ferrell @ Sep 28 2002, 12:25 AM)
Well, I took Gunr's advice and put a reset switch in my MS memory card. The switch is tiny and sits flush inside the casing of the memory card. No accidental resets, yet the button is very easy to press with a liight push of a fingernail. I'm quite pleased with the result, and was able to pick up a whole boatload of these switches. I'll be selling them at cost if anyone is interested. Please see webpage for details.



To see the entire installation process with pics go here...

http://www24.brinkst...411gb/reset.htm

or

http://411gb.50megs.com/reset.htm

(Lets see how long it takes for the servers to shut down )

If anyone wants to donate server space, PLEASE PM me!

ferrell

Very well done, thanks for the great pics.

-st


Yea thanks
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: _ASIC_ on October 18, 2002, 04:06:00 PM
QUOTE (opjose @ Sep 30 2002, 01:26 PM)
But that is a great reply.

This begs the question: Is the Xbox made to accept AV changes on the fly?

I sorta doubt that the AV connectors are optically or otherwise isolated to prevent damage to the Xbox's IC's...

So the "fear factor" still stands....

                                    I'm in agreement with you there, but must admit, the reset button would be nice.

What other options are there for a remote reset button? Any thoughts?
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: opjose on October 18, 2002, 06:18:00 PM
The big question is if MS actually brought the reset strobe line out from the CPU itself. Given that they didn't want the CPU reset, this is unlikely (but still possible).

The Eject switch seems to work via a maskable interrupt, since a hung processor defeats it.

It wouldn't be too difficult to find this out as the lines are pretty well documented from the CPU (thanks Intel!).

If were were -REALLY- lucky there would be a set of jumper holes on the boards that when bridged force a reset. The actual reset is normally isolated by a debounce circuit of some form.

In turn this could be wired up for a -SAFE- remote reset.

Hmmm... I don't have any Xboxes to mod at the moment but I may check into this on the next one I'm tasked with.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: _ASIC_ on October 21, 2002, 09:10:00 AM
OK. What about just going parallel with the the eject button on the xbox?
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on October 21, 2002, 09:51:00 PM
i kno, i mean split the xbox's reset button, but that wouldnt be neat, you'd need a custom cable, or sacrifice a controller for its cable to it looks good. But it would be a nice mod.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: bjork on October 23, 2002, 11:23:00 PM
oh yeah, NOW i got my pay per views!
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: gtata on October 25, 2002, 09:46:00 PM
Gunr, im interested in this switch, please email me at [email protected]

Thanks
George T
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: whoadizzle on October 25, 2002, 10:08:00 PM
damn i think i got the wrong switch for this mod
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on October 25, 2002, 10:41:00 PM
QUOTE (gtata @ Oct 25 2002, 09:39 PM)
Gunr, im interested in this switch, please email me at [email protected]

Thanks
George T

                                    I saw that you PM'd me today, I responded and let you know that I am not the one who was selling the switches.  Go back through the thread and find out who is the right person ask.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on October 25, 2002, 11:48:00 PM
Yeah "go trough all this forum, and one day you shall seek the person who sells them, good luck, farewell, becareful of the black monsters in your journey" wtf just say FERREL
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: Gunr on October 26, 2002, 08:56:00 PM
Back off GTac01!  I was not the one wanting the switch, I didn't know who was selling them, why should I have to go back through the thread to find out who the right person was?  He was the one asking, he can go back through and find the right one!  Besides, I didn't tell him to search the "forum", I said search the "thread", big difference.

Posted by: Gunr  Oct 27 2002, 03:56 AM

                                    Back off GTac01!  I was not the one wanting the switch, I didn't know who was selling them, why should I have to go back through the thread to find out who the right person was?  He was the one asking, he can go back through and find the right one!  Besides, I didn't tell him to search the "forum", I said search the "thread", big difference.

Title: Reset Switch
Post by: vulgusprofanum on October 29, 2002, 06:41:00 PM
Wow, I gotta try this.  It sure beats my sytem of stabbing the box with a seven foot dowel!
By the way:
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Title: Reset Switch
Post by: N00bvin on October 30, 2002, 07:52:00 AM
I'm not sure to laugh or not.  I'm repulsed, yet snickering.  I'm going to hell.

muhaha.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: testdaflow on October 31, 2002, 05:02:00 PM
All I can say is man this mod is sweet.  I modded my official xbox mem card (which i never used that came with the package, now finally got a good use of it).  I used the switch from a mad catz ps1 mem card.  I used the solder to  make a small hole on the top similar to Ferrel.

Thanks Gunr for discovering this mod.  Now I can sit back relax and do everything on the controller.

beerchug.gif
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: M3_DeL on October 31, 2002, 05:54:00 PM
Where oh where has ferrell been?
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on October 31, 2002, 09:49:00 PM
oh yeah, god!! where has he been?
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: jsm on November 02, 2002, 05:05:00 PM
I use a stick (broom) to reset my xbox.
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: GTac01 on November 05, 2002, 09:41:00 PM
HEy good idea!!, now where did i see those pencils...                                    
Title: Reset Switch
Post by: singletrack on November 18, 2002, 02:46:00 PM
QUOTE (ferrell @ Sep 28 2002, 12:25 AM)
Well, I took Gunr's advice and put a reset switch in my MS memory card. The switch is tiny and sits flush inside the casing of the memory card. No accidental resets, yet the button is very easy to press with a liight push of a fingernail. I'm quite pleased with the result, and was able to pick up a whole boatload of these switches. I'll be selling them at cost if anyone is interested. Please see webpage for details.

user posted image

To see the entire installation process with pics go here...

http://www24.brinkst...411gb/reset.htm

or

http://411gb.50megs.com/reset.htm

(Lets see how long it takes for the servers to shut down tongue.gif)

If anyone wants to donate server space, PLEASE PM me!

ferrell

Very well done, thanks for the great pics.

-st