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Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: JohnnyHunng on December 22, 2004, 12:17:00 PM
There are always lots of folks that wind up having a fraggin xbox due to flashing bad bios files to their tsop..Now this is not a tsop tutorial, there are plenty of them, this is more like an addendum...I would like whatever i miss for people to add what not to flash to a tsop....

1.) DO NOT flash an Xecuter 3 (X3) bios to a tsop, ever...There is no reason to even try this, there are plenty of X2 bioses out there, use those if u need an Xecuter bios.

2.) DO NOT flash a Boot From Media (BFM) bios to a tsop, these are for softmods, key words here are boot from media...usually they will be xboxrom.bin files...Just think, if you got the file from a softmod gamesave package, don't use it.

3.) If you are not using raincoat .7 to flash ur tsop, please pay attention to the bios size you need, for 1.0/1.1 you need a 1MB bios, for 1.2-1.5 you need a 256k bios...This will save lots of people having to do the 3 wire trick. <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on December 22, 2004, 03:36:00 PM
QUOTE
x2 4981.**
x2 4983.**
evox m7
iND-Bios 5001/5003


those are the only bios anyone should have to flash to their TSOP (too many folks flash d.6 or 4977 to their 1.4/1.5 and it makes me wonder why they are even wanting to use such an outdated bios in the first place)


QUOTE
Retail Kernels

1.0 = 4034
1.1 = 4817
1.2-1.5 = 5101
1.6 = 5838
<
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: i800phyco on December 22, 2004, 11:12:00 PM
might i add dont flash the xenium os to tsop
i've seen the ? a few times <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on December 22, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
or any modchip OS, lol

dont flash an xbe either (i seem to remember one person somehow flashing an evox xbe to his chip/TSOP/whatever

i just realized, this could get way out of hand...

...dont flash a jpg of your own butt to the TSOP either, thats not the kind of image we are talking about, lol <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: LoganDzwon on December 25, 2004, 09:05:00 PM
hehe, just figured the BFM thing myself... I thought it ment that it could be a bios OR BFM.  Luck it was a mutibios and I just booted the oem bios I had in there. <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: unknownuser on December 26, 2004, 04:00:00 AM
What about cromwell? <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on December 26, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
QUOTE(unknownuser @ Dec 26 2004, 04:20 AM)
What about cromwell?
*


depends, im not sure about newer versions of the flashbios but older ones used the sector erase command (like evox) and couldnt flash winbonds, so you were pretty much stuck unless you installed linux and used raincoat

other than winbonds it can be used to reflash a TSOP just like a modchip
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on January 06, 2005, 06:03:00 PM
another thing to not flash

Evox TSOP D.6: this bios is not made for TSOPs, its made to REPAIR TSOPs and should only be flashed to an LPC modchip

Matrix TSOP bios: same as above <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: Zergo on January 18, 2005, 01:00:00 PM
I have a 1.1 Xbox with Hynix ram. Do I want x2_4983.67_1MB.bin or x2_4983.06_1MB.bin, and what is the difference between .06 and .67? <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: JohnnyHunng on January 18, 2005, 01:29:00 PM
Do u mean Hynix TSOP or Hynix ram, i'm only asking to see what methods of tsop flashing are available to u...Anyway, yes either of those X2 bioses would be suitable, if u use raincoat .7 u can use a 256k bios of either one of those files...

.67 = F takes up to 137GB, G takes the rest

.06 = F takes rest of the drive <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: Zergo on January 18, 2005, 02:32:00 PM
QUOTE(JohnnyHunng @ Jan 18 2005, 08:49 PM)
Do u mean Hynix TSOP or Hynix ram, i'm only asking to see what methods of tsop flashing are available to u...Anyway, yes either of those X2 bioses would be suitable, if u use raincoat .7 u can use a 256k bios of either one of those files...

.67 = F takes up to 137GB, G takes the rest

.06 = F takes rest of the drive
*




Hynix TSOP. I had someone flash it through EVOX last time, I beleive it is a 1MB bios. The Chip is HY29F080
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: psyddicus on February 02, 2005, 06:43:00 AM
You guys know more about this than me, so I'll ask you:

I used an EvoX M8 on mine (I have a 1.1 so I used the program to make it a 1MB bios) and it's working fine, but I see that nobody pointed out whether or not it was a good bios to use for the TSOP flash.

I was just hoping to get some input on that. <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on February 08, 2005, 01:42:00 PM
QUOTE(psyddicus @ Feb 2 2005, 05:38 AM)
You guys know more about this than me, so I'll ask you:

I used an EvoX M8 on mine (I have a 1.1 so I used the program to make it a 1MB bios) and it's working fine, but I see that nobody pointed out whether or not it was a good bios to use for the TSOP flash.

I was just hoping to get some input on that.
*


its basically the same as evox m7, i generally dont recommend it since its easy to get it confused with m8_1.6, which will frag your TSOP (since its only for 1.6s)
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: manatarms25 on February 08, 2005, 01:32:00 PM
M8 bios works good for me I have used it on my last few TSOP's but im with lordvader on this one unless you are 100% sure you dont have the 1.6 bios dont use M8 smile.gif
Here is the problem when you unpack with either

EvolutionX M8 Bios or EvolutionX M8 Bios_v1.6

There is a file in each archive called m8_16.bin ... its to easy to get these if you have uncompressed them smile.gif

Stick with the newest X2 Bios  beerchug.gif

Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: terrorvis on February 15, 2005, 01:04:00 PM
I have just tried flashing the FlashBIOS 3.0.3.  Which works.  but you can't use it to flash a TSOP after you get it on there! <
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: studio1b on April 13, 2005, 05:28:00 PM
this is how i have my raincoat.
all u need is 2 xbios

good to label them
4983_1MB.bin
4983_256K.bin

both x2 bios listed above are .06 because i like 1 big drive smile.gif

also before writing to the tsop make sure u save the bios with.
./raincoat -r msbios.bin
that command will save your bios and tell u on screen what size the chip is.
this is the key goal i would say. READ DA SCREEN. sould say READ CHIP 1024K then u know its 1MB  if it outputed READ CHIP 256K then gain u got a 256K and should flash with that.

version 1.0 to 1.1 = 1MEG bios 1 top 1 bottom solder points
version 1.2 to 1.5 = 256K bios 2 top solder points

if u have a 1.0 to 1.1 u can also add a switch to the unit and flash one side of the tsop with the msbios u saved if u did smile.gif
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: caster420 on April 13, 2005, 05:38:00 PM
With raincoat 0.7 you can flash a 1meg tsop using a 256k bios image, that way you really only need one bios file wink.gif.

Caster.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: studio1b on April 13, 2005, 05:44:00 PM
yes i did see that if i slip up and do a 256 on a 1 meg it will flasg 4 sections of the tsop with a 256K smile.gif but still this should not be the way u do things.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: caster420 on April 16, 2005, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE(studio1b @ Apr 13 2005, 06:50 PM)
yes i did see that if i slip up and do a 256 on a 1 meg it will flasg 4 sections of the tsop with a 256K smile.gif but still this should not be the way u do things.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: rfhead on April 16, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
hi guys

just looking through this thread and there are so many bios to choose from

i have a v1.0 or v1.1 xbox and the tsop is flashed with x2+4977 fc

I have had a few probs with some games loading eg: loading screen coming off and on !! and was told i should realy update the bios ?

would this help ?
and if so what bios would you guys recommend ?

thanks
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: caster420 on April 16, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
Upgrade to 4981 and you shouldnt have any problems.  

Caster.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: rfhead on April 16, 2005, 04:56:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Apr 16 2005, 08:02 PM)
Upgrade to 4981 and you shouldnt have any problems. 
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: caster420 on April 16, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
.06 is to have one large partition 6 (for 137+ gigs), .67 will create a partition 7 after 137 gigs, ava i'm assuming means that it will launch avalaunch.xbe as your primary dash and evo means it will launch evoxdash.xbe.  You could get xbtool and edit 4981 to your suit your needs.

Caster.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: rfhead on April 17, 2005, 04:44:00 AM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Apr 17 2005, 12:12 AM)
.06 is to have one large partition 6 (for 137+ gigs), .67 will create a partition 7 after 137 gigs, ava i'm assuming means that it will launch avalaunch.xbe as your primary dash and evo means it will launch evoxdash.xbe.  You could get xbtool and edit 4981 to your suit your needs.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: nkysmile on April 18, 2005, 02:42:00 PM
What about EVOM7 bios??

for the TSOP flash 1 meg
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: TKramka on April 18, 2005, 03:33:00 PM
M7, where have you been? How about M8 or M8+ w/ IGR and LBA48, and while your at it, change the X logo colors.  M7 is long dead, at least in my opinion.  huh.gif
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: Souichiro on April 23, 2005, 05:19:00 PM
QUOTE(JohnnyHunng @ Dec 22 2004, 01:12 PM)

Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: shava on April 27, 2005, 11:43:00 PM
so what can i do if i violated the 1st law..."1.) DO NOT flash an Xecuter 3 (X3) bios to a tsop, ever...There is no reason to even try this, there are plenty of X2 bioses out there, use those if u need an Xecuter bios." i was just fckin around and flashed it and now the xbox wont start...what can i do
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on April 28, 2005, 10:48:00 AM
QUOTE(Raziaar @ Apr 28 2005, 01:02 AM)
Oh man. After reading some of these responses, i'm really scared, as i'm a newbie to all this, and I can't afford another modchip.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: TheODog on May 02, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
I Just should add dont flash the New X2 Bios to your 1.2+ Xbox. Dont even try and resize it, it just WONT WORK.

Odog
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: TKramka on May 13, 2005, 01:02:00 PM
I thought it was 512k.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on May 13, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
QUOTE(TKramka @ May 13 2005, 01:08 PM)
I thought it was 512k.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on May 27, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
QUOTE(i_albarran @ May 27 2005, 07:06 PM)
hi to everyone,
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: TheODog on May 28, 2005, 06:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Vidness @ May 28 2005, 10:32 AM)
Are you saying that the New  X2 bios (50xx) can be flashed to the older Xboxes with no problems?
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: i_albarran on May 31, 2005, 08:19:00 AM
QUOTE(|agge| @ May 31 2005, 02:47 PM)
Hi i got TSOP on my v1.4 xbox and now im putting in a X3 chip and want to flash the TSOP with the original bios again. What version should i flash with and what size should it be?
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: fiveskinoff on August 07, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
wots the diference between bios and tsop i thought they were the same
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: Exobex on August 12, 2005, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(studio1b @ Apr 14 2005, 12:55 AM)
yes i did see that if i slip up and do a 256 on a 1 meg it will flasg 4 sections of the tsop with a 256K smile.gif but still this should not be the way u do things.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: Ghost112 on September 22, 2005, 10:25:00 AM
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Dec 26 2004, 04:30 PM)
depends, im not sure about newer versions of the flashbios but older ones used the sector erase command (like evox) and couldnt flash winbonds, so you were pretty much stuck unless you installed linux and used raincoat
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: ventline on January 29, 2006, 08:14:00 PM
well i thought i would add one more not to do. DO NOT FLASH TSOP FROM A DEBUGED BIOS. It cleared it but never wrote anything.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on February 23, 2006, 11:51:00 AM
QUOTE(nvdaredevil666 @ Feb 23 2006, 09:23 AM) View Post

im not sure what not to do with a tsop, i am extremly new. i am trying to find the cheapest and best way possable to back up my xbox games to a hard drive. i found a 200gb hard drive on ebay for reall cheap, so i was tihnking of using that size.  i started doing research on how to upgrade it, and i found out i needed a chip, i was already aware of wut chips do, well, the basic consept, so i was gunna have to buy one of them as well. i was looking at the xecuter 2.6 lite ce i think, i dont want it for the perks, just for the hard drive swapping and upgrading. i was wondering if someone could give me a link to a website who has liek a noob guide to upgrading a hard drive and backing up them. i read something about evox, but that i had to install onto a mod chip, i was wondering if there was a way to have evox or a something like that on my xbox w/o installing a mod chip and be able to back up my games and stil lbe able to do that with a bigger hard drive.  any links of tutorials would be greatly welcomed

if you want an inexpensive modchip get a duox2, however you can also upgrade the hard drive with a softmod or TSOP flash, both of which can be done for free (assuming you already have a pc and soldering equipment)
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: drewdown on February 28, 2006, 01:34:00 PM
Im just about to get an Xecutor X2.6 and i havent flashed on yet only Xenium ice and X3 so here is my question: I have X2_5035_vold512k and its for a V1.0 xbox. I read earlier that Bios should be 1mb for the older x box is this the correct bios to flash to the chip??

On another note what about X3_3294 1mb bios is this bad news since its not for a X2.6 chip or will it work?
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: lordvader129 on February 28, 2006, 03:36:00 PM
QUOTE(nvdaredevil666 @ Feb 25 2006, 10:25 PM) View Post

thanks. i actually found something on here where i have to hook up 3 wires t oa switch and then i have to download some bios and a biostool, i have some bios, i was trying for a xecture ones, 4977,  thats wut was used in the guide, and i think i got somthing close to that, but it says i need to open it in biostool, wich is also found on #xbins, but i cant be logged onto #xbins for more then a few minutes untill it kicks me off for good. and i dindt even do nuttin. but assuming i do log onto #xbins and i get to it fine and all, the bio tool folder is there, but i cant find one that will take the 256k bio and resave it as a 512 bio. would i be able to just download a 512k bio, i ahve a version 1.0 box, so i have the 1mb tsop, and its not the sharp version of the tsop. the link to the guide that i am using to mod my xbox is: "http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/tsop-live-1mb.php". tell me if you would advise this. i am only trying to back up my games to my hdd, so far. right now i am still trying to find the bios and bios editing tool and the other software that i need.  tell me if you think this is a good guide, if a 512k bio would work fine, where i can go to get the software that i need for it, and if i am doing sometihng rong with xbins, or if it happens to other people. thanks alot.:-)

not sure whats up with xbins, try the 1 click tool in my sig

4977 is very old, but will work on your 1.0, personally id suggest 4981 (256k) or 5035 (512k)

xbtool will let you resize any bios (just click the size button instead of opening the image) but if you flash with evox or raincoat .7 you dont need to resize, they will resize for you

for wiring a switch, use the TSOP split link in my sig as a wiring guide

after doing all this you will still have to use a softmod or gamesave exploit to be able to load a flashing utility (evox, raincoat .7, or eurasia 1.3)

QUOTE(drewdown @ Feb 28 2006, 02:41 PM) View Post

Im just about to get an Xecutor X2.6 and i havent flashed on yet only Xenium ice and X3 so here is my question: I have X2_5035_vold512k and its for a V1.0 xbox. I read earlier that Bios should be 1mb for the older x box is this the correct bios to flash to the chip??

On another note what about X3_3294 1mb bios is this bad news since its not for a X2.6 chip or will it work?

well, that has nothing to do with TSOP flashing (TSOP is the xbox onboard bios chip, not a modchip) but 5035 will be fine, use 512k for a x2.6

do not use an x3 bios, its only for the x3 chip
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: caster420 on March 03, 2006, 10:37:00 AM
Raincoat is a small linux app used to read/write bios images to your tsop.  As for a tutorial on it, you can read a flashing tutorial and it will give you some information on the commands.  Also check to see if it came with a readme file, it may contain some information.  

Caster.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: punktilend on March 08, 2006, 02:40:00 PM
ok hello, first off i have a 1.0 xbox with a 4983.67 bios and no modchip just tsop flashed, 200gig hdd, and found out a while ago that it only tops out at like 130gigs so i asked around and was told i need a new bios but the thing is that the 4983.67 supports more than 130 gigs doesnt it? but either way im trying to figure out how to get the rest out of my hard drive maybe i somehow partitioned it wrong when i installed it? i dont really know, if anyone can help please do so.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: Meat_PoPsiclez on April 04, 2006, 08:30:00 PM
What bios would be recommended for me?
I'm currently running a softmod on a 1.2/1.3 (according to xbmc, I can't really recall what it is) xbox, evox bios set to f to 137, g for the rest. (although I only have a 120 in the machine atm anyhow).

The reason I want to move to a tsop mod is to bypass the dvd-rom checks, as the thompson drive in it has been more or less doa for better than two years, and adding a pc drive would really make it a good media center (95% of it's running hours are spent in xbmc).

If you can point me to a suitable bios (and the proper editor for it) I can hack up the options I need pretty comfortably.
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: trigga71 on April 17, 2006, 09:32:00 PM
sorry but i am new to this as well, But i take it that the TSOP BIOS's are just modchip BIOS's or do i need to download specific BIOS's?
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: DeeZS on January 20, 2007, 03:47:00 PM
Ooooooooook....so here's my problem: I have an old Xbox (that I already bought modded, no chip)...recently my hdd(retail) got fried, changed it with a new one. No problem. I just slammed the hdd in, used slayer and everything is fine. The only problem is that it won't load EvoXdash.xbe, it goes directly to msdash. I know I have an old bios in it (evox d6 ejfix) but it should theoretically look for evoxdash.xbe first and only then load msdash. I ftped evox over again....nothing....any suggestions?
Do I have to reflash with newer/other bios? (I'm not that eager to solder s**t onto my motherboard)
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: DeeZS on January 23, 2007, 12:04:00 PM
Nevermind.... the evox that came with slayer's 2.6 was just screwed. I dled the original 3935 and it works like a charm...
Title: A What Not To Do With Your Tsop
Post by: StrictPuppet on November 09, 2007, 10:27:00 PM
QUOTE(chopshopxbox @ Nov 9 2007, 02:58 PM) View Post

When I try .06 it tells me Manufacturers ID 09 Flash not writeable? I have a V1.1. I tried a couple others and it tells me the same?


That is because your write enable points are not bridged properly, has nothing to do with the bios you are using.