| QUOTE (lordvader129 @ Sep 7 2004, 03:43 AM) |
| im pinning this for a while, lol |
i hope it work!!! lol :lol: <
Im not sure if i will be able to follow this tutorial, it just doesn't seem that clear. could you post one with some pics? B)
rb8720
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| QUOTE (rb8720 @ Sep 7 2004, 10:20 PM) |
Im not sure if i will be able to follow this tutorial, it just doesn't seem that clear. could you post one with some pics? B)
rb8720 |
lol
New Pic Section will be add to this tutorial...
i will prepare my 500 Mega Pixel camera for it... :D <
But wait what is that chi....
NO!!!!
DAMNIT
nice i was just kinda curious if you could because i read that the 1.6 didn't have tsop when it came out so i was like flash 1.6 tsop what? i need those pix to it might help some... <
LMAO!... I thought it was some kind of progress on TSOP Flashing the 1.6 at first. :lol: <
thank god finaly :lol: <
And to think my cheap A$$ got all excited!!
:D <
double post....
opps ;)
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| QUOTE |
Q: What do i need to flash the tsop?? A: ONE XBOX VERSION 1.0-1.5!!!
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Do you mean "Own xbox version 1.0-1.5" <
LOL every question covered, i like that
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| QUOTE (sss @ Sep 17 2004, 11:12 PM) |
Do you mean "Own xbox version 1.0-1.5" |
No!... i mean:
you need to own one xbox version 1.0-1.5
Can anyone confirm that a mod chip will word on the 1.6???
Yes... a chip will work fine... You need to rebuild LPC tho... And use m8_1.6 as your BIOS.
I still believe, that 1.6 bios is possible to flash =)
Some l33t guy's should research 1.6 motherboard how it should be done =)
| QUOTE (davicoro @ Sep 6 2004, 07:26 PM) |
Thinks that you need to know before try to flash a bios on a 1.6 Xbox |
Don't you mean "Things that you need to know...."?
| QUOTE (limbfilter @ Sep 26 2004, 08:44 AM) |
| Don't you mean "Things that you need to know...."? |
opss... yea... that is!!! i repair that mistake now!!!
haha,
damnit, u got my hopes up!
I'm glad that it hasnt been cracked yet, because I just bought 20 modchips
I really hope that you can flash the onboard bios!
Yeah this faq had to have been done! It seems that on every page there's some guy asking how do u tsop flash a 1.6?
lol, good one. That's be wierd to find out hwo to flash the 1.6 bios somehow. I heard that there is some wierd encrypted comunication between two points that MS set up so that something or many things would work as a TSOP. Don't care anyway. im really tired.
OMG i tried to do it before i came upon this tutorial and my box is all messed up i need a backup HDD image for my box if anyone is able to help please email me the link or reply to me thanks
My email is [email protected]
thanks in advance
SOS ....
regards
wait are u sure u cant.....
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
XD
| QUOTE (vaga @ Oct 4 2004, 06:07 AM) |
what if I installed a tsop then flashed it...? |
ok... you want to have a tsop on your xbox v1.6???... try this!!!
1 - install a cheap mod
2 - flash it whit the retail bios 1.6 and turn off your xbox.
...(at this point you have a custom tsop on your 1.6)
3 - turn on your xbox
4 - now do the 007 and flash whit a m8 bios!!!
congrats... you have flashed your custom tsop on your xbox v1.6
now you have two tsop on your box... one original and one custom...
The problem i have found is that the Xcyclops has bee write protected permenantly to make a tsop impossible? Would MS really do this or is it a spoof with the access points disguised very well? Anyone wanting good diagrams of the 1.6 can find here but this is for modchips really....
http://www.kanection...pininstall.html
If Somebody is really clever out there and can figure it out...Hurry Up!!!
All flashing software works upto the point of flashing.....there has to be a way!!!
| QUOTE (noupadi @ Oct 9 2004, 11:57 AM) |
| Modchips aren't TSOP:s. |
Actually...
Most modchips have a TSOP.
A TSOP is a specific type of chip package, and most of the modern modchips use a TSOP style flash chip.
A cheapmod does not usually though.
| QUOTE (noupadi @ Oct 9 2004, 11:57 AM) |
| Modchips aren't TSOP:s. |
why not??? just use yur imagination!!!
I know this isn't the correct section but maybe in your tutourial you should include a link to the soft mods for 1.6's . I mean its funny and all but as long as it is pinned maybe it could help some people out . Just a thought .
| QUOTE (Lamer123 @ Nov 16 2004, 07:29 PM) |
| I know this isn't the correct section but maybe in your tutourial you should include a link to the soft mods for 1.6's . I mean its funny and all but as long as it is pinned maybe it could help some people out . Just a thought . |
edited, hopefully davi wont mine
| QUOTE (lordvader129 @ Nov 17 2004, 04:04 AM) |
edited, hopefully davi wont mine |
its about time someone said this
| QUOTE (redeath @ Nov 23 2004, 08:54 AM) |
yer i flashed a 1.6 the outherday
with a camera
is that the same |

thats like when I was speaking to a mate on msn and I was on about flash (as in internet games etc) and she thought I was on about cameras.
And to them n00bs up there from what I know (maybe wrong on this) the 1.6/b bios is in the the same chip as the EEPROM and video encoder chip which is the Xcyclops. So if you flashed a bios on that you would fuck up your entire xbox.
Please help mee i have a xbox ver 1.6 and i trie to exploit it but nothin work, i trie the fonts xploit and my xbox do not boot, please tell me where i can find a package whit al the files working on a v1.6 my email is [email protected]. Please i really need help. I hava another xbox alrery modede but this is v1.1 and ther i had no problem, but maybe can be usseful for moded my 1.6 please help me.THKS
I like me the bad english huh yes. i flashed twelveteen xboxes 1.6 with bare fist. okai?
| QUOTE (flipstatus @ Dec 1 2004, 05:58 PM) |
I jus got an xchip from easybuy2000.com (its a new release). then I installed it with a solderless kit. so then everything is working well. It boot me up on a bios. then I dont kno what to do. I jus bought the chip late Nov 2004. Then I kinda flashed the bios without any idea wat flash means. then when I turned it off and on. the green light turned flashing green n red. then i turned it off again then turned on it wont load me to bios menu. But when I connect my usb. then turned on the xbox then the xbox starts flashing red n green again.
I need help.. PLZ..
FLashing means formating the bios?? how can I restored the bios menu?? |
This is a TSOP forum not an X-Chip forum! I feel you either didn't rebuild the LPC or you didn't flash Evox M8_16plus.
| QUOTE (XLNC @ Dec 13 2004, 07:20 AM) |
| So is anybody going to figure out how to flash the onboard bios where ever it's located? |
its on the xyclops chip, since there is no part number on the chip we have no idea how to write enable it or if it is even writable, so i would have to say the answer is no, no one is ever gonna figure out how to reprogram the 1.6 onboard bios
| QUOTE (largie @ Dec 19 2004, 12:00 PM) |
So if the chip actually is a EEEP-ROM it is possible to rewrite it, right? I guess people with analyze tools may see if this is a PROM or EPROM right? |
yeah, however i dont think there is a way to just "analyze" the chip and find out data on it, we'd need a spec sheet, since it doesnt have a manufacturers part number on it basicly our only hope for a spec sheet is to get one leaked from MS
It is an ASIC (Application Specific Integrated Circuit).
It has been tailor designed for the Xbox. My thoughts are that it is a microprocessor based design (possibly ARM, though unlikely) and has an internal Flash memory array.
Upon power-up the microprocessor in the ASIC boots from microcode stored in a protected array (flashed at chip manufacture), and presents all data needed on appropriate pins from it's general flash array (you want I2C data, these two pins provide that; LPC boot ROM info? that's over here on these pins). All in all it is actually emulating the devices it is replacing from information stored in the general flash array (likely programmed at time of Xbox manufacture).
While not as cheap as the components it is replacing, it is far more difficult to reverse engineer. The right way to look at this device is a Gen3 modchip and eeprom in a single QPF package.
Just remember: I know nothing, this is just my guess.
-nB
yes.
So, if theres no TSOP. Where does M$ put their bios?
QUOTE(Leafz @ Jan 20 2005, 10:19 PM)
So, if theres no TSOP. Where does M$ put their bios?
can you flash the xbox's TSOP chip on a v1.6? If so how can it be done? do you have to do any sodering?
There's a pinned topic right at the top of this forum, before u post, read, u didn't even have to run a search....
yea i just relized that right after i posted.. my bad i should have read alittle more before i posted...

just jokin
lol
thanx for ur guide
QUOTE(tmcaninch @ Jan 21 2005, 06:56 PM)
can you flash the xbox's TSOP chip on a v1.6? If so how can it be done? do you have to do any sodering?
wat iph i poot sauder on teh pointz and flash?
QUOTE(WhatsAModchip? @ Mar 6 2005, 11:18 PM)
wat iph i poot sauder on teh pointz and flash?
I have an XBOX 1.6 ( b )
As soon as my warranty is due i am going to look at it.
Can anyone confirm if MS itself is able to flash the bios ?
no point in finding out if they can't either...
Jesus man, no it cant happen. Thats the short and the long of it.
I got someone telling me that it IS possible to flash a 1.6 Xbox ... I told him that it wasn't possible. I told him the only thing you can do is softmod it. Then he said that was true up 'til now... that they have new software that makes it possible to flash a 1.6
of course after looking for info on it, I can't come up with any... reading this makes it apparent he's full of shit... unless he knows something that no one else does.
???
doubt it ...
I keep asking him to send me info on how it is done, but he hasn't yet... so I'm sure he's full of it.
Go to the very first post on this thread. IT CAN'T HAPPEN! You either have to softmod or chip a 1.6/b, end of story.
uh.. yeah I realize what it says. And I said he's probably full of crap, but things change...
ok, so there's no TSOP on a 1.6, which intrigues me to know as to where in buggery the BIOS is loaded from when you power up the Xbox.
there must be a discussion about it somewhere, hopefully I'll find it.
Could the bios be being loaded off the hd? cus it must be getting it somwhere, if so couldnt using the 007 hack( or somthing like it) somone design a program to instead of flashing, rewrite the bios??
A softmod does the same thing, why both then?
QUOTE(davicoro @ Sep 7 2004, 08:29 AM)
Thinks that you need to know before
QUOTE(RELIC @ Apr 13 2005, 05:06 PM)
Could the bios be being loaded off the hd? cus it must be getting it somwhere, if so couldnt using the 007 hack( or somthing like it) somone design a program to instead of flashing, rewrite the bios??
I love this post....
I find it strange that MS would store there Bios on a chip(Xyclops) that could not be reflashed/reprogrammed. So if the Bios goes corrupt for any reason and the xbox is under warranty, you send it to them, they will simply give you a New Xbox (becuase I doubt they are going to go throught he process of replacing the chip, it would probably cost more) ? Never new MS was nice and not greedy
QUOTE(ModdingManiac @ Apr 28 2005, 05:08 PM)
I find it strange that MS would store there Bios on a chip(Xyclops) that could not be reflashed/reprogrammed. So if the Bios goes corrupt for any reason and the xbox is under warranty, you send it to them, they will simply give you a New Xbox (becuase I doubt they are going to go throught he process of replacing the chip, it would probably cost more) ? Never new MS was nice and not greedy
QUOTE(littlejonny @ May 3 2005, 08:12 PM)
actaully just to clear things up for the noobs and for those who know a little more but not enough..........
Wow, I bet you feel real smart making a tut about something that everybody already knows!
Hmm, I wonder if a brute force attack could be tried on the Xyclops chip if this were true. Sure would make my life easier.
QUOTE(sublime323 @ May 7 2005, 01:23 PM)
I have recently soft modded two 1.6 xboxes
True, but it would still be nice, then again, we don't even know if it is really flashable. Besides, 1.6s are crap compared to the rest of the revisions, ex. 1.1 (my favorite).
This may seem like a stupid question, but has anyone tried distributed computing to crack the xbox private signing key? Or would that not work.... Is it the right kind of encryption? Just thougt I'd ask.
Yeah, there is an active netowrk of computers trying to find the key, somewhere in xbins there's a program to help, but by the time they figure it out, its going to be 2008.
QUOTE(TKramka @ May 12 2005, 04:50 PM)
Yeah, there is an active netowrk of computers trying to find the key, somewhere in xbins there's a program to help, but by the time they figure it out, its going to be 2008.
QUOTE(membre999 @ May 26 2005, 05:21 PM)
Sad, that TSOP-Flashing doesn't work on 1.6-Boxes
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ May 4 2005, 05:41 AM)
hmm, thats very interesting, do you have links to this info? im not tryign to refute you or anything i would just liek to read about the revese engineering thats been going on
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ May 12 2005, 04:52 PM)
thats a pretty liberal guess, lol, i figure it will be the year 5000 or so
I believe this could be arguably the best tsop tutorial on XS.
ok , just hear me out on this one.
i have not done this yet so it is purly speciation.
if u had a xbox 1.0 - 1.5 with all the tosp points together for flashing, couldnt u grab the eeprom chip from xbox v1.6 and solder it inplace from the older xbox and then flash it. or use a eeprom programer to write the data to the chip?
The eeprom is not the same chip as a tsop. 1.6 boxes have an eeprom chip, that is flashable, but they do not have a tsop (where the bios is stored). The eeprom just holds info such as region, serial number, video mode, parental settings....etc
Old thread but hey.
The BIOS is in the MCPX I believe. I'm not sure if its hard coded in or just you cant write enable it because there are no points to solder to enable this.
the bios is loaded from the xyclops chip, along with information from some other previously separate chips IIRC
you can see it to the right of the IDE cable in this picture http://pictures.xbox...alibur_02xs.jpg
you cant flash it because unlike on previous its not an EEPROM (Electronically Erasable-Programmable Read Only Memory) so on an xbox the TSOP and the EEPROM are actually both EEPROMs, although the EEPROM is not a TSOP (confused yet? lol)
as for how it can boot without a TSOP, TSOP means Thin Small Outline Package, and refers to nothing more than the physical shape of the chip
well thats all the interesting but otherwise useless information for today
QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Jan 6 2010, 01:27 AM)

the bios is loaded from the xyclops chip, along with information from some other previously separate chips IIRC
you can see it to the right of the IDE cable in this picture
http://pictures.xbox...alibur_02xs.jpgyou cant flash it because unlike on previous its not an EEPROM (Electronically Erasable-Programmable Read Only Memory) so on an xbox the TSOP and the EEPROM are actually both EEPROMs, although the EEPROM is not a TSOP (confused yet? lol)
as for how it can boot without a TSOP, TSOP means Thin Small Outline Package, and refers to nothing more than the physical shape of the chip
well thats all the interesting but otherwise useless information for today :)
I'm totally new, please forgive my ignorance.
My question:
I opened my box; it appeared to be 1.6 or later. There is an small EEPROM (probably 256x8 (2Kbits))
next to the Jtag sockets. The chip labeld: 4M90W L02.
I searched and found that it is likely to be an EEPROM (I2C interface) chip but couldn't find
any spec on this chip.
1. Could anyone happen to know what chip it is and where to find the spec?
2. I'm hoping that the HD key is stored on this chip. If I can read it out and
find the HD lock key, I hope I can prepare another bigger HD with HDD builder package,
lock it with the same HD lock key, and plug it in. After the BIOS successfully unlock
the HD, I hope it just gonna boot the new OS on the drive without halting...
Is it something reasonable to persuit or it's just plainly stupid and I shouldn't
try it?
Thanks.