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Post by: heinrich on November 10, 2003, 08:02:00 PM
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Post by: chefelf on November 10, 2003, 08:30:00 PM
QUOTE (heinrich @ Nov 11 2003, 12:02 AM)
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 laugh.gif  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  laugh.gif
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Post by: thejt on November 10, 2003, 08:47:00 PM
Chris..  You have 97 posts for shit sake.. You wouldnt be here if you were such a micro$oft advocate.  You are just as bad as anyone else Im sure.

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Post by: Chris-X-XC on November 10, 2003, 08:54:00 PM
yes so what smile.gif
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Post by: Chris-X-XC on November 10, 2003, 08:55:00 PM
im jsut sayin why micro is pissed at modders tongue.gif
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Post by: AcidPenguiN on November 10, 2003, 09:26:00 PM
i totally agree with chris. . . sure I'm here in the forums but its mostly cause I like to break things and see if I can make them work again tongue.gif
lol i think all you pirates should be sent out to sea to live on an off-shore oil rig. . . but I am kinda messed in the head. . .
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Post by: heinrich on November 10, 2003, 10:30:00 PM
my above post still stands.
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Post by: Blazes Boylan on November 11, 2003, 05:28:00 AM
I don't pirate games or buy them either.  I bought my xbox strictly for listening to my pirated MP3s!
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Post by: pxpx on November 11, 2003, 05:53:00 AM
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that my friend is some seriously funny shit.
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Post by: Grendal on November 11, 2003, 08:33:00 AM
As long as you ask yourself this question, "Would I have bought it anyway if I couldn't have stolen it?"  If the answer is yes, then buy it.  Even if you have a pirated version.  Nobody loses money this way.
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Post by: Blazes Boylan on November 11, 2003, 08:57:00 AM
QUOTE (Grendal @ Nov 11 2003, 06:33 PM)
As long as you ask yourself this question, "Would I have bought it anyway if I couldn't have stolen it?"  If the answer is yes, then buy it.  Even if you have a pirated version.  Nobody loses money this way.

The problem with that is, once you can get things for free, the threshold for what you'll actually pay for goes up.
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Post by: chefelf on November 11, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
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Post by: Null on November 11, 2003, 10:51:00 AM
Well maybe if the games weren't so overpriced....
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Post by: Lotmr on November 11, 2003, 11:12:00 AM
Worst thread. Ever. Funny picture though.

Also you say you're 14? You have the grammer and sentence construction of a 2 year old who has just been smashed over the head with iron mallet.
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Post by: Grendal on November 11, 2003, 12:41:00 PM
QUOTE (Lotmr @ Nov 11 2003, 09:12 PM)
Worst thread. Ever. Funny picture though.

Also you say you're 14? You have the grammer and sentence construction of a 2 year old who has just been smashed over the head with iron mallet.

What are you doing smashing little kids with iron mallets?  That's terrible!  You're a bad person.
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Post by: dewmonger on November 11, 2003, 01:51:00 PM
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Post by: heinrich on November 11, 2003, 06:09:00 PM
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watch it when you hit those kids though, they end up like stewie of family guy.
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Post by: tweaqr on November 11, 2003, 06:57:00 PM
i agree with Grendal if i wouldn't buy it, if i couldnt get it for free then its not hurting anybody, thats why i like people that ask for donation for there products becuse i can pay them what i think its worth.
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Post by: d7onr8 on November 11, 2003, 07:06:00 PM
QUOTE (dewmonger @ Nov 11 2003, 07:19 PM)

LOL.  I like it.  I noticed that there are, in fact, (gasp!) TWO pancakes on it's head!  (I know i'm being picky).  Two makes it double LOL LOL!




Actually it looks like its one pankcake but extra thick!  Also, I like the donation option.  It gives modesties on both ends.  I too think that games are overpriced, music as well.  If the cost was a drop in the bucket, I would be dropping more in that Big bucket.
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Post by: azanboyz on November 11, 2003, 08:01:00 PM
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Post by: eyric101 on November 11, 2003, 08:48:00 PM
Hmm I wonder how popular xbox would be without the hacker community.  I wonder how popular MS would be without the pirate community.  I read an article by MS a while ago stating that if it wasn't for piracy their os wouldn't be so wide spread or popular.  You think MS is hard on Piracy?  If this were true every new game that came out would have some new anti piracy protection and probably mess up your stuff.  Now Dave, he is hard on pirates.  Sending ecms that f* up your card.

This bleeding heart shit really pisses me off.
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Post by: PerfectModifications on November 11, 2003, 09:08:00 PM
QUOTE (Blazes Boylan @ Nov 11 2003, 12:57 PM)
QUOTE (Grendal @ Nov 11 2003, 06:33 PM)
As long as you ask yourself this question, "Would I have bought it anyway if I couldn't have stolen it?"  If the answer is yes, then buy it.  Even if you have a pirated version.  Nobody loses money this way.

The problem with that is, once you can get things for free, the threshold for what you'll actually pay for goes up.

True, but I think that's a GREAT method...

Only pay for the games you would have paid for if you couldn't have pirated it...

think about it...

HALO -BUY
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic -BUY
Wakeboarding Unleashed -COPY IT

Honestly, you wouldn't have played Wakeboarding if you weren't able to pirate it, so the game comany isn't losing some "lost profit" and you aren't wasting money on a game you would have played ONCE....

Everyone wins! Show some support for the developers who work hard to make BADASS games like Halo, Rainbow Six 3, Star Wars: KOTOR, Deus Ex: Invisible War, etc.

Or, if you can't buy them ALL, at least pay for a couple of your absolute favorites...show some RESPECT. beerchug.gif
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Post by: ProSam on November 12, 2003, 12:40:00 AM
QUOTE (heinrich @ Nov 11 2003, 06:02 AM)
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LOL! jester.gif  jester.gif Where's the Maple Syrup! jester.gif  jester.gif
Man I Could eat some Pancakes right about now. Hehehe
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Post by: capt_n_yayo on November 12, 2003, 12:10:00 PM
ohmy.gif  Cute though. smile.gif I feel you hein, just be cool about it chris. EVERYBODY knows what going on here, you just wanna put it back in the face of society? Just be anonymous, humble, whatever...enjoy the fruit while its fresh. cool.gif
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Post by: azanboyz on November 12, 2003, 01:26:00 PM
QUOTE (dewmonger @ Nov 12 2003, 11:16 PM)
Also, the people who are involved in the mod community make up a very small percentage of the total owners of xboxes.  The majority of xbox owners are mainstream people who don't even know that this community exists.   You are also assuming that everyone who modded his or her xbox never buys any games.  Not true.  Most people do actually pay for games.  Just because you go to Blockbuster doesn't mean that everyone else does.  For example, how many xbox owners do you know that didn't buy Halo?

100% agree with you there!!! I know my friend Since I mod the xbox for him, all he do is go and rent games and copy them, BUt for me the reason I mod my xbox is to watch my Divx and play emulator games, and I do buy xbox games only the game I like, I have about 10-15 games since I have my Xbox, and About over 30 games of PS2 that I have bought!!!
 So don't asume everyone here JUst rent games and copy them.

Remmeber moding is fun even know what ever it is you are moding, I love learning and doing new thing!!!! biggrin.gif  rolleyes.gif  beerchug.gif  pop.gif
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Post by: Rohaq on November 12, 2003, 01:57:00 PM
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Post by: chelrob on November 12, 2003, 02:20:00 PM
XBOX sales are at record highs.  Why, because you can mod them and backup games.  This was the deciding factor for my purchase.  M$ should love modders.  I'm not advocating it but the simple fact is Piracy is good for XBOX sales.  You can expect M$ to invest less in gaming software and more in hardware.

Oh yeah, and rentals are up like a million percent too.  Developers, Manufacturers and Distributors are all getting a chunk of that change not to mention the retail outlets.
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Post by: Rohaq on November 12, 2003, 02:32:00 PM
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So obviously piracy isn't the main factor in selling consoles tongue.gif
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Post by: chelrob on November 12, 2003, 02:34:00 PM
XBXOX sales have been steadily rising month after month for the last two years, not just recently.
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Post by: PerfectModifications on November 12, 2003, 02:47:00 PM
I agree that videogames in general are WAY overpriced. But, I disagree with that method of pricing them...after all, movie makers who spend $50 million on the production of a movie still only charge $6 at the box office and $20 for the dvd as a movie that onnly cost $3 million to produce.

I think a lower "price of admission" should be applied to videogames. They are just TOO DAMN HIGH right now. $49.99?? Sure they used to be $69.99 and $79.99 (N64), but $49.99 is still too much.

All of the major videogame companies need to come together and decide on a price to sell videogames at for consoles. I believe $29.99 would be great for brand new games and $14.99 for "best seller" games. That's reasonable, and will sell a LOT more games than they are now.

Think about it, MS, Sony, & Nintendo...If you lower the price, MORE people will buy the games, ultimately letting you gain a larger $PROFIT$.

They're taking steps in the right direction by lowering the "standard" price from $59.99 to $49.99, but it needs to go down $20 more.

By the way, if you want to make a small testament to not paying high prices for games, check this site out...

http://www.fairplay-...co.uk/front.htm
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Post by: X2Gamer on November 12, 2003, 02:57:00 PM
There si piracy, but out of the like 15 million xbox owners there are only like about 50000-150000 with modchips. Besides you still need originals to play on xbox live.
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Post by: thewickedjester on November 13, 2003, 07:29:00 AM
these arguments are good and all, but how much you guys wanna bet bill gates has a modded xbox?
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Post by: chelrob on November 13, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
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ASIA) Too many modded Xboxes for Xlive ?
>> From news.zdnet.co.uk:
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MS has finally launched its Xbox Live online gaming service in Asia, but it faces a challenge in the region due to the prevalence of mod chips.

Bowman, Asia Pacific general manager for MS's home and entertainment division, declined to guess how many Xbox consoles in Asia are of the modified variety, saying that no definitive study had been done.
However, he said that "we acknowledge that some people in Southeast Asia -- just like people in other regions where we have released Xbox Live -- have chipped consoles and will, therefore, not be able to enjoy Xbox Live or authorised aftersales service and support."

Chin Jun Fwu, programme manager of Asia-Pacific online gaming for analysts IDC also declined to speculate on the popularity of modified consoles, but admitted that software piracy is rampant.
"It will be challenging for MS. Southeast Asia is still immature when it comes to legal software," he said.
MS's Xbox Live will have a good chance of success if an online game with adult appeal becomes available, said Chin. Adults can better afford original software and subscription fees, compared with the usual teen gaming crowd, he said.


Read more on news.zdnet.co.uk.

XLINK and XBCONNECT make XBOX Live obsolete for modded xboxes anyway.
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Post by: chelrob on November 13, 2003, 10:37:00 AM
Lol.  Post a quote or link to something that says M$ is losing money on xbox console sales.
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Post by: Rohaq on November 13, 2003, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE (chelrob @ Nov 13 2003, 07:34 PM)
Those of you that think modded xboxes are small in numbers need to do some reasearch...
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ASIA) Too many modded Xboxes for Xlive ?
>> From news.zdnet.co.uk:
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MS has finally launched its Xbox Live online gaming service in Asia, but it faces a challenge in the region due to the prevalence of mod chips.

Bowman, Asia Pacific general manager for MS's home and entertainment division, declined to guess how many Xbox consoles in Asia are of the modified variety, saying that no definitive study had been done.
However, he said that "we acknowledge that some people in Southeast Asia -- just like people in other regions where we have released Xbox Live -- have chipped consoles and will, therefore, not be able to enjoy Xbox Live or authorised aftersales service and support."

Chin Jun Fwu, programme manager of Asia-Pacific online gaming for analysts IDC also declined to speculate on the popularity of modified consoles, but admitted that software piracy is rampant.
"It will be challenging for MS. Southeast Asia is still immature when it comes to legal software," he said.
MS's Xbox Live will have a good chance of success if an online game with adult appeal becomes available, said Chin. Adults can better afford original software and subscription fees, compared with the usual teen gaming crowd, he said.


Read more on news.zdnet.co.uk.

XLINK and XBCONNECT make XBOX Live obsolete for modded xboxes anyway.

Different market matey. Asia has a huge piracy problem. The thing is that it's seen as normal over there, because everyone does it with little or no worries. They sell pirated software on open-air market stalls over there and cops generally don't bat an eyelid (although China had a recent crackdown, I believe).

Over here modded Xboxes are in short supply. Over in Asia you've got to mod your box to play the pirated software that's become mainstream, not that it makes it any better.

Basically, don't try and legitimise software piracy. It's wrong; there's no two ways about it.