Post by: sir-aseman on December 28, 2002, 10:11:00 AM
why do u all use theses damn matrix crap and xecuter shits ?
a better solution exist more stable, easy to update less cost and really really simple to do
Just flash tsop...
Make your own homebrew modchip with a flashrom and your motherboard (a tutorial on this site...)
activate tsop flash
boot your console flash the tsop
turn off cut the modchip and thats it
u got a xbox modded, flashed ready to play import and backups games etc...
and really easy to upgrade just use the flash function on evox to update it
(put 2 or 3 switch on the mobo and cut your bios in 4 to be able to use 4 different bios... for dev or xboxlive for example...)
just think about it before buying an expansive crap modchip....
Post by: MURDERER on December 28, 2002, 10:29:00 AM
. I wish I was that good, but I just don't have the skillz yet. 
iMURDERER
Post by: razielx on December 28, 2002, 11:46:00 AM
Post by: sir-aseman on December 28, 2002, 01:22:00 PM
BUT !!!
yep theres a f....ing "but".. the matrix doesn't work wwith all versions of xbox
like all the 3rd generation of modchip
v1.0 build between april and june are unable to use theses modchips... (not all but some of theme)
and a homebrew is less cost than matrix (a homebrew flashrom cost : 20$ !!!!)
of course u need an average skill in soldering.... but its priceless :-)
Post by: cykiller on December 28, 2002, 01:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (sir-aseman @ Dec 28 2002, 03:22 PM) |
| the matrix doesn't work wwith all versions of xbox like all the 3rd generation of modchip |
uhh, there are only 2 versions of xbox and matrix works on both, were u refering to tsop flashing??
Post by: sir-aseman on December 28, 2002, 01:50:00 PM
which was build between april and june
this version (of pal xbox) doesn't accept the 3rd generation of modchip
i got a version of these xbox
i tried 1 x ecuter, 1 x ecuter 1.1, 1x ecuter2 and 1 matrix
none of these modchips had work on my console
so i used a homebrew and i flash my tsop and it works now
i got a friend who has the same problem
information is sure pal xbox between april and june doesn't accept theses modchips
Post by: |HM| on December 28, 2002, 03:55:00 PM
You can't dissable it in anyway in order to reap the benefits of XBlive ?
I would personaly shoot anyone I found flashing a Tsop :)
HM
Post by: |HM| on December 28, 2002, 02:46:00 PM
HM
Post by: rAph on December 28, 2002, 02:49:00 PM
And besides, people who buy a Matrix buy one because they can't solder.
Post by: |HM| on December 28, 2002, 03:05:00 PM
Flashing you internal tsop is for the lame and retarded.
GET a Fkin life Imurderer.
HM
Post by: Tribal Kult on December 28, 2002, 03:10:00 PM
But this has a really bad effects:
You will never be able to go on XBL never again. Plus you'll become dependant of the person who got the modchip in the sense that only him will be able to reflash your TSOP for a bios upgrade you'll possibly need later.
For that reason I don't recommend to anyone to flash their TSOP. It dosn't worth the money you save.
Post by: |HM| on December 28, 2002, 03:40:00 PM
HM
Post by: MegaViper on December 28, 2002, 03:40:00 PM
Post by: |HM| on December 28, 2002, 04:04:00 PM
HM
Post by: octoped on December 28, 2002, 04:50:00 PM
This along with the fact that all of them live in rural areas of the UK that is never gonna see broadband or XBlive for many years was the deciding factor.
Furthermore, you can now pick up a enigmah chip for £12, so for that price I couldn't be bothered to attempt to make a homebrew mod.
And is it just me but does anyone else find the Enigmah the easiest chip to install, or am I just weired
Post by: MURDERER on December 28, 2002, 06:09:00 PM
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Post by: majik655 on December 28, 2002, 06:24:00 PM
I use ONE matrix and have done countless tsop flashs now.
I have NEVER had a striped screw, a bad flash (not yet ..knocking on wood)..
Another thing.. ALOT of people are confused by V1.0 etc etc...
PEOPLE IN THE US DO NOT worry YET.
WE ALL HAVE 1.0 so far.. none of the 1.1 have made it here (correct me if I am wrong)
I have seen the different dates on the 1.0's however NONE have had a problem with flashing tsop.
Another thing people are doing is just buying ANOTHER xbox.. I know some can't including myself.. but some can AND sinse you buy the games for it anyway.. might as well just buy one for 150$ and mod it.. and have 2 .. one for modding and one for live play.
Some of us could care less about live.
Some of us would die without it.
I have never soldered before.. and have learned ALOT.. luckily I have taken my time with everything and learned before trying. Stick with what works! don't update until you read others and their problems.
btw if you can flash the tsop once you can do it again and again.
load the original bios on it if you want it back to original if that is what you are worried about.
and oooo big deal if you do screw up the flash.. just use the damn matrix. you would have had a modified bios anyway.
TSOP is fine if you know what you are doing.
2 drops of solder and 1 simple wire ..and MOST of the time that one wire can just fit in the hole that it connects to. bend it down and boom no solder. Some yes .. you do have to solder . but thats it. Don't need to be a pro to do it.. just practice on other things that are like it.. like those old boards if you have any. once you can do it.. try it.
Post by: globalhec on December 29, 2002, 01:57:00 PM
| QUOTE |
PEOPLE IN THE US DO NOT worry YET. WE ALL HAVE 1.0 so far.. none of the 1.1 have made it here (correct me if I am wrong) |
I live in the US, and I just finished modding two xboxes for my friends (christmas presents) and both were v1.1
Post by: MURDERER on December 29, 2002, 04:31:00 PM
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Post by: feflicker on December 29, 2002, 09:05:00 PM
Anyway, if you are just flashing TSOP on your own box, and don't care about live, or any other future changes, good luck with your TSOP flashing! But don't for one minute think it is the "best" solution. It may be cheaper, and easier to keep working because your soldering sucks, but the inability to restore the machine to factory config and use live is not worth it to most of us...
Post by: MURDERER on December 29, 2002, 09:16:00 PM
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Post by: sir-aseman on December 29, 2002, 10:03:00 PM
flashing tsop is the best alternative u can find:
u can flash 4 different bios on tsop and plug 4 switchs to switch the bios u want to use
i use homebrew because it is cheap and i am sure of the result
i dont let the homebrew in order to flash and reflash differents consoles !
if u are too limited to understand that buy a crap modchip and dont come crying when u crash your motherboard because u r a f...ing noob with your damn solders points
thats all
Post by: sir-aseman on December 29, 2002, 10:13:00 PM
flashing tsop is really great because of the multibios trick
it allow u to play on live as easily as it is to press a damn switch
u can restore your xbox as factory default by flashing an original bios integraly on tsop
u can flash new bios really simply and u r not obliged to buy another damn modchip because yours is not flashable
blah blah blah stupids peoples are so boring....
so i recommand for stupids peoples to use a modchip and just to shut and cry when they'll be banned from xbox live because their xbox were not... how to say... evolutives...
for peoples who want to be allways at the top, priceless and really simply... try homebrew
Post by: tedbundy on December 30, 2002, 08:12:00 AM
you call xecuter shit but you use their software ?
get real man - you are preaching bullshit to the bullshitters
if someone wants homebrew - they can
if someone wants a QUALITY PRO MOD like xecuter or even matrix - they can
they don't need you or ppl like imurderer to change their minds
Post by: tedbundy on December 30, 2002, 08:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (MURDERER @ Dec 29 2002, 02:09 AM) |
| You can get a flashed TSOP to work on Xbox Live! Using the multi-bios trick. The way to do is is flash a 256k image of the original XBOX bios, and the other 3 x 256k images of modded bios code. When you want to play on live, use the original bios and you can get on. Flashing the tsop is one of the best ways to mod your xbox! Use only one mod chip to flash all your friends XBOXs and save money! iMURDERER |
dude - why are you preaching info that is months old ??
do you know that every time you say "flashing the TSOP" you are showing all the techies amongst how much of a joke you are
you don't even know what the term TSOP means - but wait - whos gonna guess he uses google when replying lol
Post by: nfmus on December 30, 2002, 08:20:00 AM
You are very right Ted, people have the right to decide for themselves what they want. I am taking a stance not to push my preferences on others, only to inform them of the facts. I think that this philosophy, if adopted by others, can help to make this a better place.
True, I do bash people for being stupid, but that's just one of my personality flaws.
Post by: MURDERER on December 30, 2002, 10:41:00 AM
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Post by: feflicker on December 30, 2002, 11:05:00 AM
Post by: MURDERER on December 30, 2002, 11:30:00 AM
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Post by: MURDERER on December 30, 2002, 12:36:00 PM
http://www.xboxhacke...=ST&f=18&t=9205
and this thread.
http://www.xboxhacke...=ST&f=18&t=9233
I hope this helps you out
iMURDERER
Post by: feflicker on December 30, 2002, 06:32:00 PM
Post by: MURDERER on December 30, 2002, 06:38:00 PM
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Post by: PENTIUM75 on December 31, 2002, 02:50:00 AM
First of all the rule about never flashing your TSOP HORSE-SH!T!
It doesnt really matter just remember to save your orig bios, that way if anything does get screwed up all you have to is stick the homebrew DIP32 chip back in there and reflash the TSOP to whatever you want. My point being, use the TSOP its alot more stable but always keep your hombrew chip and socket handy as a failsafe.
2nd: I must brag about my XBOX daughter board I'm desgining;
It hooks up to 30 small solder points and 12 huge solder points;
Onboard it has USB headers, one DIP32 socket, and switches to enable boot from dip32 and TSOP flash protect on and off. In the future I plan to put connections for a standard keyboard and mouse, the only problem with this is, I don't know how, I've heard about a controller chip and using the LPC bus but no solid info, if anyone has any info on this it would be greatly appreciated, thanks
Pentium75
Post by: nfmus on December 31, 2002, 03:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (PENTIUM75 @ Dec 31 2002, 10:50 AM) |
| I must brag about my XBOX daughter board I'm desgining; It hooks up to 30 small solder points and 12 huge solder points; Onboard it has USB headers, one DIP32 socket, and switches to enable boot from dip32 and TSOP flash protect on and off. In the future I plan to put connections for a standard keyboard and mouse, the only problem with this is, I don't know how, I've heard about a controller chip and using the LPC bus but no solid info, if anyone has any info on this it would be greatly appreciated, thanks Pentium75 |
Here's an even better idea.
| QUOTE |
| LPC Multi-I/O expansion card I am working on an LPC Multi-I/O expansion card, currently out to board fabrication. The card features a FLASH ROM, a 16 Mbit development NVRAM, a real time clock, a 9-pin RS-232 serial port, a PS/2 keyboard port, and a PS/2 mouse port. This card will, if I'm lucky, provide users with the ability to write their own ROMs and code for the Xbox, and only require users to solder on a single 16-pin header. Other features that I could add include a floppy drive, parallel port, and another serial port. If you think any of these could be useful for your development work, drop me a line and let me know. However, there may be some issue getting interrupts to work over the LPC header because the type included on the Xbox seems to be the "debug" type instead of the "legacy expansion" type. Once I have tested its basic functions, I will release the schematics board layouts, and bill of materials for free, and perhaps produce a few for people to buy. I will probably step the board at least one more time before releasing it, or possibly producing them with Xenatera Partners. If I do go to production, the boards will be sold strictly as LPC Multi-I/O cards, as they can be used with any PC chipset that supports an LPC header. No code or ROM will ship with the cards--you can probably buy the ROM from someone else if you need it. I will post more info as soon as I have it! Stay tuned... |
If you don't know where this came from I suggest you do some research.
Post by: HELLTICK on December 31, 2002, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: Ace25 on December 31, 2002, 03:18:00 PM
Post by: telo{+} on December 31, 2002, 04:56:00 PM
As far as live goes, just set up the multibios. One Switch.
And its not going to be accidently flashed cause i have a backup evox.ini for flashing, and my normal one has no flash option
Flashing the tsop is the way to go.
(and 'IF' it should ever get fucked up, I'll make a cheap mod, or order chip)
Post by: sir-aseman on January 02, 2003, 10:36:00 PM
(which has never happen with me either...)
u juste have to put in the homebrew modchip and reflash tsop and the tsop will be safe
u have no idea about what u r talking about so please stfu thx
Post by: Hammy on January 02, 2003, 10:43:00 PM
Post by: ordyne on January 05, 2003, 05:03:00 PM
Im sick of hearing that you cant go one live if you flash your tsop....
either split the bios and use a switch or even once your tsop is flashed leave your homebrew in, program it with the standard bios and stick a switch on it
simple as
ordyne
Post by: MURDERER on January 07, 2003, 05:21:00 PM
iMURDERER
Post by: biosboy on January 07, 2003, 05:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (MURDERER @ Jan 8 2003, 12:21 AM) |
| A TSOP Multi-Bios setup that has been verified to work on live is [Original][EVOX D6][ANY][ANY] iMURDERER |
haha I love you iMURDERER
Post by: Ghosting on January 07, 2003, 09:19:00 PM
Post by: buzzman on January 07, 2003, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: smokeingit on January 07, 2003, 11:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ace25 @ Dec 31 2002, 11:18 PM) |
| ok, My opinion is you are just a cheap person if you flash the TSOP. Everyone here has an opinion, that is mine. Second, what happens when you go to flash the TSOP and something happens? Power surge, sibling bumps the power button, whatever, and you have a dead TSOP.. wow, guess you are really in some trouble if you want to fix it.. or you WILL have to buy a modchip then. Sorry, I will stick with my PC-Bioxx I got the day LS shipped them and have not had a single problem with my XBox or modchip since install.. and I have torn it apart more times than most people here, plus cut the hell out of the lid with the dremel, installed cold cathodes, rewired several times, even had a X-Ecuter1 before PC-Bioxx, and no probs with that either.. I will never participate in flashing the tsop, $40-$50 in nothing to me and I will gladly pay that for an extra bios rather than screwing mine up. And guess what, I have a 1meg bios also, so I can do the 4 bios switch if I cared to.. so that is not a TSOP only feature. |
Oh i liked this retarded post....
"what happens when you go to flash the TSOP and something happens?"
well fuck we all take chance's in life... what if i decide to drive and get killed, what if i nut in a bitch, what if i jump off a building....
the thing is shit happends....
I flashed 4 TSOP's and they all work great. none of the people that i flashed for even know how to flash.... so the option is not there...
Post by: DJ Gecko on January 08, 2003, 02:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (smokeingit @ Jan 8 2003, 07:14 AM) | ||
Oh i liked this retarded post.... "what happens when you go to flash the TSOP and something happens?" well fuck we all take chance's in life... what if i decide to drive and get killed, what if i nut in a bitch, what if i jump off a building.... the thing is shit happends.... I flashed 4 TSOP's and they all work great. none of the people that i flashed for even know how to flash.... so the option is not there... |
LOL thank you smokeingit, you said exactly what needed to be said!
So if you misflash the TSOP you fix it! Sure it's a hassle, so you have some patience and fix the damn thing. Nobody said you can't fix a totally buggered tsop, it's just a pain in the ass.
For every cool thing someone figures out how to do, there will always be someone who says "I don't care, that's different and different is bad and I don't like it and you shouldn't do it." Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when I hear stuff like "I don't want to screw mine up and $50 is nothing to me" I just have to laugh. So then don't screw it up, jackass! And maybe money isn't the point, maybe it is. Who really cares? But when you brag about how cool your Xbox is because it has cool lights and a 1MB bios and no flashed tsop, you totally lose credibility. OK, so does it play the games any better? No? Well gee, that's the reason I bought my Xbox, so I can have cool lights on it, not to play games. Gimme a break.
If flashing the tsop makes you feel "cheap", then don't do it. But don't look down on other people because they are saving themselves $50 a pop. So then add a switch, play your Live, do whatever, just have fun playing Xbox and don't take any of the self-appointed Lords of the Forums too seriously. They aren't always the brilliant masterminds they think they are.
Post by: smokeingit on January 08, 2003, 03:50:00 PM
Post by: morbak on January 09, 2003, 10:40:00 PM
Flashing the T.S-OP is great and fun...He He...but I have a question...
I managed to flash a m&ultib.ios and installed a switch between A18 and gnd. The Problem is it loads bi.os 3 when on and bi.os 4 when off. I read that it should be the b.ios#2 that should load with A18 on!
Does anyone got in same situation?
Also It's working great on L.iv.e...I tested it...with original games of crse. My config is original hckd hckd original. I Installed switch to disable fla.sh when A18 grnded. Since I also hve a xuter2 installed with multi.b.ios (4), I can have access to 6 diff hcked b.iozes...but is it an advantage?
Also a question about the latest Complex Bi.os...does it allow You to go on L.iV.e?
to end, an another question. I 've got a file (screendump.bmp) appearing at regular intervals on E...what is that? I am using Evox26...don't have any pirated games, just tools and emulators...