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Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on September 14, 2004, 08:15:00 PM

a publicly availible one doesn't exist AFAIK...

contact Team Xodus.. they may be able to help u...

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: appleguru on September 14, 2004, 08:22:00 PM

Even without an OS you can recover the xenium... just flip the switch on the chip itself to recovery...

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: appleguru on September 14, 2004, 09:03:00 PM

No, I read your post. What I'm saying is that there is no way to get rid of recovery mode; it is always there, and doesn't just go away (Not entirely true, but... That *is* the point of recovery mode). There are no programmers availible to the public that will work on your chip. give some more details on your problem, maybe we can find a fix.

Example: What version xbox? What chip (Blue, ICE)? What install method (pinheader, quicksolder, solderless, etc)? What you did when trying to upgrade the OS and what happened to make it 'fail'... What color your chip/xbox LEDs are, etc.

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: Artifex on September 14, 2004, 10:14:00 PM

Well, as appleguru pointed out, there is (almost) no way to damage the recovery mode.  The only ways that it *could* happen go way beyond a simple power loss... and would probably damage the xbox before the chip.

There is also the possibility you have a clone.  If the chip is a clone, you may be experiencing a portion of ACT.  When and where did you purchase the chip?

Beyond all of that, there is one way you could repair the OS on the chip, but it takes a bit of carefull timing.  Use a xenium which is not damaged to boot the recovery mode, and AS SOON as video appears on the screen, VERY QUICKLY switch from the good chip to the "dead" chip, before the "Got from HDD" or "Got from CD" message appears on the screen.

And, no, this little bit of CPR will not "revive" a dead clone... only a dead legitimate chip.

--Artifex

P.S.

Please do NOT start multiple threads on the same topic.

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: appleguru on September 15, 2004, 10:24:00 AM

Anything is possible, but seeing as Artifex is the lead developer for Team Xodus, I'm willing to bet what he's telling you to do wont damage your good chip. (No logical reason why it would).

/me bets your physical recovery switch is somehow broken, preventing you from entering recovery mode via hardware.

Just a guess, but seems to be most likely situation...

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: TooHuge on September 15, 2004, 01:28:00 PM

I am in the exact same boat as you, I have no recover mode and other chips work on my xbox. Just frags! I would also like to try the hot swap method. How do I handle the d0 point for the hot swap? Do I solder the d0 to both chips, boot off the good one, enter recovery mode and swap the chip for the damaged one? Leaving the d0 connected to both chips and the mobo? Or can I just put the d0 on the good chip that i boot with and still swap and flash the bad with no d0??

Thanks
TooHuge

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: Gumba on September 15, 2004, 01:35:00 PM

QUOTE (TooHuge @ Sep 15 2004, 09:31 PM)

I am in the exact same boat as you, I have no recover mode and other chips work on my xbox. Just frags! I would also like to try the hot swap method. How do I handle the d0 point for the hot swap? Do I solder the d0 to both chips, boot off the good one, enter recovery mode and swap the chip for the damaged one? Leaving the d0 connected to both chips and the mobo? Or can I just put the d0 on the good chip that i boot with and still swap and flash the bad with no d0?? Thanks TooHuge

d0 is only needed at boot time to initially load the XOS, RecoveryOS or BIOS, so it doesn't really matter what you do with the d0 after the xbox boots to something

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: TooHuge on September 15, 2004, 01:43:00 PM

I will try this out in about 3 hours (after work) I will post my results. ok so I will boot my xbox with the working chip go to recovery mode and swap for the bad chip. Why do i need to do this really fast? wont it just wait at recovery mode untill I put in the cd? I will do this fast but I dont want to fly through it and mess it up...

TooHuge

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: jimmy999 on September 15, 2004, 01:51:00 PM

I was wondering the same thing TOOHUGE, so if you get too the answer before me let me know what works.  If there is a time limit, let me know.

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on September 15, 2004, 03:09:00 PM

most likely it won't.... you'll be lucky to get ur XOS back.....

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: jimmy999 on September 16, 2004, 05:18:00 PM

YES!!!, well I can get the XENIUM that was dead to get to the first XENIUM splash screen, so I feel that If i try the "HOT-SWAP" chip recovery one more time it will hit, i will let you know.
j

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: jimmy999 on September 16, 2004, 05:20:00 PM

P.S.> I DID NOT use OS2, repeat DID NOT,
I am using the 1.6 os I beleive

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: appleguru on September 16, 2004, 06:05:00 PM

OS1.1?

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: appleguru on September 16, 2004, 06:49:00 PM

Well, that certainly is progress.. You may wish to attempt using OS2 beta2, as it may solve your issues... But then again, it was the update to said OS that screwed you over in the first place, no?

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: appleguru on September 16, 2004, 07:46:00 PM

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: appleguru on September 16, 2004, 08:48:00 PM

) /me looks at his parents... always telling me to do my homework...

In any case, updating XOS2 beta2 may fix the hanging issue your having with 1.1 at the moment. Now that you've managed to flash the OS, does recovery mode via the recovery switch work again? Here's to hoping you get your chip working again!

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: TooHuge on September 17, 2004, 07:01:00 AM

If you do get this working, let me know step by step what you did. I was using os2b2 burnt to a cdr. Would launch recovery from the good chip os then swap then insert the disc. Would say loaded from cd and then nothing. Did yours actually flash and turn the xbox off like it was supposed to?

TooHuge

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: jimmy999 on September 17, 2004, 11:53:00 AM

IT WORKED!!! IT WORKED!!!!!, Hallelujah, thanks to all who have helped me thru this trying process!!  Especially APPLUGURU for his patience and artifex for the TEAM XODUS wisdom.  too TOO HUGE, i out my XENIUM ICE that worked in the box, went to RECVOERY, as soon as the recovery screen came up, I quickly changed the chip to my dead XENIUM blue, (I used the CD/ISO recovery version of OS 1.1 from the TEAMXODUS site, i will be glad to providre you with the link).  Mind you I had chips switched before the screen SAID GOT FROM CD!!, then I waited, i saw the LED on my XENIUM got to GREEN, however the xbox did not shut down automatically so, after 10 minutes i just shut it down using the power button.  Then I just turned the power back on and it booted right up to the XENIUM 1.1 no frag no probs, just a clean BOOT.  If you have any probs please contact me, i will try to help anyway i can, and if you see any one in any other forum with the same problem, please let me know.   THANK YOU again to everybody involved.
JIMMY HINSHAW

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: jimmy999 on September 17, 2004, 12:39:00 PM

TOO HUGE, i will make a deal with you, if you give up on your chip, you can send it to me, and I will try to fix it for you, it is totaly up to you.  I am just trying to help.  Mine gave the same RED LED that yours did the first time, it just does take some timing i guess, first time didn't work for me either.  But the second time, SUCCESS!!
Jimmy

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: Artifex on September 17, 2004, 10:08:00 PM

Yes, the timing is very critical... Rule of thumb... remove the chip, and put the new chip on, pretty much right when you see the front eject led go orange.  Once you get to "Got from...", if you dont have the chip to be recovered on the pins... then it's too late.

--Artifex

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on September 17, 2004, 11:02:00 PM

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: Artifex on September 18, 2004, 01:53:00 AM

One of the things on our "long term to-do" list includes making several such improvements to the recovery process.  It's back-burner for now, but will certainly happen eventually.

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: Gumba on September 19, 2004, 03:52:00 PM

QUOTE (jimmy999 @ Sep 17 2004, 07:56 PM)

IT WORKED!!! IT WORKED!!!!!, Hallelujah, thanks to all who have helped me thru this trying process!!  Especially APPLUGURU for his patience and artifex for the TEAM XODUS wisdom.  too TOO HUGE, i out my XENIUM ICE that worked in the box, went to RECVOERY, as soon as the recovery screen came up, I quickly changed the chip to my dead XENIUM blue, (I used the CD/ISO recovery version of OS 1.1 from the TEAMXODUS site, i will be glad to providre you with the link).  Mind you I had chips switched before the screen SAID GOT FROM CD!!, then I waited, i saw the LED on my XENIUM got to GREEN, however the xbox did not shut down automatically so, after 10 minutes i just shut it down using the power button.  Then I just turned the power back on and it booted right up to the XENIUM 1.1 no frag no probs, just a clean BOOT.  If you have any probs please contact me, i will try to help anyway i can, and if you see any one in any other forum with the same problem, please let me know.   THANK YOU again to everybody involved. JIMMY HINSHAW

You know, I bet you can use the exact same trick to upgrade a Xen Blue on a 1.6 xbox

Title: Can U Use A Programmer To Put Os On Xenium
Post by: Artifex on September 19, 2004, 04:31:00 PM

QUOTE (Gumba @ Sep 19 2004, 11:55 PM)

You know, I bet you can use the exact same trick to upgrade a Xen Blue on a 1.6 xbox

No, unfortunatly not.

Or, at least, in theory it will not work.  Can't hurt to try.

--Artifex