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Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: bishop05 on August 25, 2004, 06:39:00 PM
I don’t want to start anything, I just got an ICE chip in the mail today and I noticed that the Xeniun logo looks like it’s in bold print.  I compared it to my other ICE chip and the text is bolder that than the other chip.  To top it off once I installed the chip FRAG, I put in my old ice and guess what worked like a charm.


I will try to upload a pic I just don’t know how!

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Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on August 25, 2004, 06:53:00 PM
hmmmm i haven't heard of any clones yet.... i assume the new protections in place on the ICE prevent cloning....

ps i'll host the pic EmperorPsiblade(@t)cox.net
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: lookformeb on August 25, 2004, 10:45:00 PM
The xenium logo should eb in a bolder print then the rest of the tex ton the chip...

Host images here: http://www.imageshack.com/

then use the IMG tag to post it.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: bishop05 on August 26, 2004, 05:13:00 AM
here they are


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Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: cap269 on August 26, 2004, 07:34:00 AM
The second image you posted does look strange ... Where did you get that chip from? All of my ICEs look like the first pic you posted and have the digits "0408 02" above the Xenium logo.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: bishop05 on August 26, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
I got it from Divineo, I just sent a E-mail to support to replace the chip.  Hope that will exchange it!
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: Xboxmodder3690 on August 26, 2004, 08:44:00 AM
Mine looks like the second one also. It also fragged on my 1.6 (I thought I did the rebuild wrong so I had to buy a 1.0 xbox) I am going to install it tonight and see if it works on the 1.0, if it doesn't I'll contact  Xodus and Modchipman
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: dbldown768 on August 26, 2004, 08:51:00 AM
huh..thats weird.... i've only bought 2 chips both from mod-Chip_Source and they are fantastic.  im not here to advertise but i dont ever hear anyone ordering from them.  i got my chips in 2 days.  both worked great so far.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on August 26, 2004, 09:02:00 AM
hmmmm the second one looks like its lower quality... look at the via near ".com" on the second chip... different but only a slight difference....

look how badly the "d0" was printed on their... if it was up to me... i'd say that either Xodus has gone to cheaper production methods or these are new clones.... possibly with a hacked XOS despite the difficulties in modification of the XOS....
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: dropoutproduct on August 26, 2004, 09:38:00 AM
QUOTE (EmperorPsiblade @ Aug 26 2004, 05:05 PM)
hmmmm the second one looks like its lower quality... look at the via near ".com" on the second chip... different but only a slight difference....

look how badly the "d0" was printed on their... if it was up to me... i'd say that either Xodus has gone to cheaper production methods or these are new clones.... possibly with a hacked XOS despite the difficulties in modification of the XOS....

does look like lower quality.

xos2 was hacked ages ago; clones are likely to be out and about, but i wouldnt point fingers.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: Xboxmodder3690 on August 26, 2004, 09:39:00 AM
I took some pics of mine:
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Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: Xboxmodder3690 on August 26, 2004, 10:01:00 AM
Sorry for the blury pics, but my camera isn't very good

What do you guys think I should do? Should I return the chip?
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: bishop05 on August 26, 2004, 10:18:00 AM
Where did you get it from?  I waiting for a E-mail from where I bought my chip from for a RMA #

I would return it if i were you, I has to be the chip, I placed my other chip in both on my boxed and booted just fine so i know my install of the solderless adaptor is fine.


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Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: XanTium on August 26, 2004, 10:21:00 AM
I asked Team Xodus and they told me both are 'originals'. (Oz)Xodus used 2 different factories to produce the pcb ... that's what's causing the small differences.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: bishop05 on August 26, 2004, 10:30:00 AM
It frags on my box, the red LED lights up and it frags.  I put my other ice in and it boots just fine I'm assuming is just a bad chip.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: Xboxmodder3690 on August 26, 2004, 10:34:00 AM
I got it from modchipman. I am going to talk to him and see if I can return it
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: ncaissie on August 26, 2004, 11:27:00 AM
QUOTE (DeAdGuY @ Aug 26 2004, 07:17 PM)
please read above...your chip is not a clone

official resellers wouldnt risk selling clones...and have really no reason to do so

if it is a bad chip then that is a different story

You don't know what your talking about.
I got a clone from an official reseller and so have many others.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on August 26, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
QUOTE (ncaissie @ Aug 26 2004, 01:30 PM)
You don't know what your talking about.
I got a clone from an official reseller and so have many others.

ncaissie is right... remember the first clones came from an Official Reseller who was pissed at OzXodus...  wink.gif
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: Master-Chief on August 26, 2004, 01:12:00 PM
QUOTE (ncaissie @ Aug 26 2004, 01:30 PM)
You don't know what your talking about.
I got a clone from an official reseller and so have many others.

He's talking about an ICE Chip..  wink.gif
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: ncaissie on August 26, 2004, 04:21:00 PM
They may not know they are selling clones.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: Gumba on August 26, 2004, 09:03:00 PM
QUOTE (ncaissie @ Aug 27 2004, 12:24 AM)
They may not know they are selling clones.

Yeah, but they're *NOT* selling clones!

The seem two be two variants of ICE chips currently, and BOTH are original!

One has crisp clear text with numbers, the other has shoddy text without.

According to Team Xodus both are original

(my guess is that they had to ramp up volume to satisfy demand wink.gif)
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: lookformeb on August 26, 2004, 09:06:00 PM
QUOTE (ncaissie @ Aug 26 2004, 05:24 PM)
They may not know they are selling clones.

If a reseller is Official, it would be hard for the company to not know if they are selling clones.  Official resellers purchase their products from the source.
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: Artifex on August 26, 2004, 09:27:00 PM
QUOTE (lookformeb @ Aug 27 2004, 05:09 AM)
If a reseller is Official, it would be hard for the company to not know if they are selling clones.  Official resellers purchase their products from the source.

Even if they're not official.... it would be very hard for them to not know they're purchasing clones.

People who purchase clones for resale know exactly what they're doing 99% of the time.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something..... probably a cheap knockoff something.

--Arti
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: ncaissie on August 27, 2004, 06:21:00 AM
Well there seems to be a problem with the cheaper looking chips.

Different parts maybe? Or maybe Act or Act 2 is killing them?

People are looking for answers not excuses.


It's very hard to tell if it is the solderless, the install or the chip is the problem.

But majority rules, in my opinion that’s just a hell of a coincidence.


Thanks
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: modchipman on August 27, 2004, 09:41:00 AM
QUOTE (ncaissie @ Aug 27 2004, 02:24 PM)
Well there seems to be a problem with the cheaper looking chips.

Different parts maybe? Or maybe Act or Act 2 is killing them?

People are looking for answers not excuses.


It's very hard to tell if it is the solderless, the install or the chip is the problem.

But majority rules, in my opinion that’s just a hell of a coincidence.


Thanks

I'd just like to say that modchipman.com purchases our chips directly from teamxodus, and instead of assuming a chip is a clone because it doesn't work, why not try troubleshooting it, try the ERS, and so on.

most people who are having problems are having them with the 1.6 version xbox, and probably because the rebuild is shoddy or wires are crossing or so on.. just please make sure your install is good, even try another xbox if need be, to verify the chip and its problems..

if you've bought it from us, use our ticket support system for installation help, we're glad to help out any of our customers smile.gif
Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: Puckster069 on August 27, 2004, 10:12:00 AM
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Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: adamf14 on August 27, 2004, 07:38:00 PM
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Title: Clone Ice Chips?
Post by: HSDEMONZ on August 28, 2004, 12:13:00 AM
The are no Xenium Clone Ice chips.

2 factories were used.

'nuff said.