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Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: dbldown768 on August 10, 2004, 12:20:00 PM

im not new to modding but i just picked up a v1.6 and now i wanted to install the ice chip in there.  i have put in the 2.3b solderless in my v1.4 before and i know how small those holes really are.  I wanted honest opinions from people who aren't all the experience in soldering to see how hard it actually is to install in a v1.6.

As you can tell (my sig.)  i have soldered in lights under my jewel and in the controller ports and in the dongles.  Do you think that i would have enough exerience with that to be able to solder this chip in my v1.6?  I really want to give it a shot for experience purposes, plus i dont want to have to pay $130 for an installation fee.


Thanks

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: bishop05 on August 10, 2004, 01:55:00 PM

Well if you have no experience with modding you picked the wrong Xbox to buy, the 1.6 Xbox requires you to rebuild the LPC bus.  



http://66.111.59.177.....ll Manual.pdf

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: dbldown768 on August 10, 2004, 02:13:00 PM

yea i know that, i have read the tutorials.  this is why i'm asking.... how good do you have to be to install it?

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: bishop05 on August 10, 2004, 02:30:00 PM

Well you need experience his soldering very small wires.  But I’ve seen some pretty shitty installs but they work.  The real question is are you comfortable doing it  

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: acemilo on August 10, 2004, 03:53:00 PM

You have a couple options.  First, if you live in the ny area ill install it for you for less than 130.  Second, I made a thread explaining how to do it in detail.

http://forums.xbox-s...opic=253214&hl=

Follow one of the guides

http://members.shaw..../xenium_mod.pdf
http://www.midsouthm...es/iceguide.pdf

Its harder than doing a regular chip, but once you do one they aren't hard.  I was very nervous when I did one, but it wasn't that hard for me.

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: dbldown768 on August 10, 2004, 04:33:00 PM

any special tools you guys would recommend?  BTW i'm not scared about doing it, i work comfortably with electronics.

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: bishop05 on August 10, 2004, 04:44:00 PM

15 watt soldering pencil
Flux
Rosin core solder
30 gage wire
Magnifying glass
all could be found in radioshack.


and a steady hand

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: dbldown768 on August 10, 2004, 04:53:00 PM

so u guys really used a magnifying glass....   crap....

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: Xboxmodder3690 on August 10, 2004, 05:05:00 PM

QUOTE (dbldown768 @ Aug 11 2004, 12:56 AM)

so u guys really used a magnifying glass?

For the top d0 point, heck yes. It alos helps in checking all your connections



Note: I also recommend the bottom d0 on a 1.6. It looks like the hole was meant for the wire. Fits in there rather nicely

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: bishop05 on August 10, 2004, 05:10:00 PM

I use it all the time better safe than sorry...

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: acemilo on August 10, 2004, 09:45:00 PM

I used a 30 watt iron, no flux, no magnifying glass and used the bottom lframe.  As long as your eyesight is good you shouldnt need a magnifying glass.  Flux helps but I didn't need it.  Most of the bottom points are huge.  There is 1 (or 2 if you follow the alt 3.3v method) pad and the rest are vias.  One via is small, the rest are huge.  The lframe is even bigger.  A 30 awg wire is small enough to fit in the hole and freely move and the via pads are huge.  It isnt that hard.

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: Gumba on August 11, 2004, 03:15:00 AM

QUOTE (dbldown768 @ Aug 11 2004, 12:56 AM)

so u guys really used a magnifying glass....   crap....

I didn't... but I would've if I had one

(I just used the bottom d0 instead... gave up on the top one... that things TINY!)

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: pinkeye00 on August 11, 2004, 06:16:00 AM

I've actually done it. Its relatively easy, to be honest. The technique that was aquired is a nice touch on the soldering end of things.

Xbox Pictures

Note, the bad soldering.

That's ok. I purchased a second Xbox a couple days ago, and I'm going to try it again.

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: pinkeye00 on August 11, 2004, 06:19:00 AM

Version 1.6 vs. 1.0 controllers?

I purchased an Xbox over the weekend for $99 + tax (and free Madden 2004 NFL), and its a version 1.0 (haven't cranked open the case yet).

The controller is HUGE compared to the one I have with my v.1.6.

Anyone else noticed this between revisions?

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: Gumba on August 11, 2004, 08:47:00 AM

QUOTE (pinkeye00 @ Aug 11 2004, 02:22 PM)

Version 1.6 vs. 1.0 controllers? I purchased an Xbox over the weekend for $99 + tax (and free Madden 2004 NFL), and its a version 1.0 (haven't cranked open the case yet). The controller is HUGE compared to the one I have with my v.1.6. Anyone else noticed this between revisions?

The new controllers are called "Controller S"... I guess the S stands for "small"

They've been around for quite awhile and were first introduced in the Japanese market I believe... personally I can't stand the original Giant Controllers

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: bishop05 on August 11, 2004, 09:35:00 AM

QUOTE (pinkeye00 @ Aug 11 2004, 09:19 AM)

I've actually done it. Its relatively easy, to be honest. The technique that was aquired is a nice touch on the soldering end of things. Xbox Pictures Note, the bad soldering. That's ok. I purchased a second Xbox a couple days ago, and I'm going to try it again.

pinkeye,

WOW I'm impressed that you 1.6 works,  the pics of your soldering job are proof that anyone could do it...

Did you use FLUX?

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: dbldown768 on August 11, 2004, 10:10:00 AM

the one question i had was i saw some tutorials showing the VCC 3.3 wire going to the one end of the LPC wholes, while another i believe uses a solder pad below it.  Does it matter which one i use?  is the solder pad probably easier to solder to?

I ordered the chip and im going to attempt to solder this thing myself... everyone has to start somewhere and so far will any of the mods i've done i have been successful so lets hope that trend continues.

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: acemilo on August 11, 2004, 04:30:00 PM

I used the big ass pad, worked fine.

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on August 11, 2004, 04:33:00 PM

QUOTE (pinkeye00 @ Aug 11 2004, 08:19 AM)

I've actually done it. Its relatively easy, to be honest. The technique that was aquired is a nice touch on the soldering end of things. Xbox Pictures Note, the bad soldering. That's ok. I purchased a second Xbox a couple days ago, and I'm going to try it again.

  you know that the solder goes INTO the holes right?

not stuck around the pins....  

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: acemilo on August 11, 2004, 04:33:00 PM

God damn I just looked at your soldering job.  Thats the ugliest job I've ever seen!  Most of your lpc points arent even contacting the board properly.  Im shocked that it boots, but hey if it works good for you.  Any mod that works is a good mod.

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on August 11, 2004, 04:39:00 PM

QUOTE (acemilo @ Aug 11 2004, 06:36 PM)

God damn I just looked at your soldering job.  Thats the ugliest job I've ever seen!  Most of your lpc points arent even contacting the board properly.  Im shocked that it boots, but hey if it works good for you.  Any mod that works is a good mod.

nope not the worst soldering job ever....

from HSDEMONZ Hall of Shame:

First Attempt
Second Attempt
Third Attempt

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: acemilo on August 11, 2004, 07:46:00 PM

Wow, did that install even end up working?  I can understand the raised pin header, that happens to me too just not that much, has to do with the way the board leans on your bench.  Still, thats pretty fucking bad, I'm glad I'm at least better than that guy.

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: bishop05 on August 11, 2004, 07:51:00 PM

QUOTE (EmperorPsiblade @ Aug 11 2004, 07:42 PM)

nope not the worst soldering job ever.... from HSDEMONZ Hall of Shame: First Attempt Second Attempt Third Attempt

that whole batman thing was GREAT!!!  
LOL!

Title: How Hard To Install A Ice Mod Chip?
Post by: appleguru on August 11, 2004, 08:57:00 PM