Post by: Gareth2061 on August 02, 2004, 03:55:00 PM
Post by: inacst on August 02, 2004, 06:56:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 02, 2004, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: silentsnake on August 02, 2004, 07:33:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 02, 2004, 07:49:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 02, 2004, 09:54:00 PM
Post by: AmO on August 03, 2004, 12:27:00 AM
Post by: Gumba on August 03, 2004, 12:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (AmO @ Aug 3 2004, 08:30 AM) |
| i think what gareth is trying to say is that the word colonel is a word of french origin and may also be a current word in the french dictionary. That doesnt mean english doesnt use it as well, english, or at least the modern english we speak today is a relativly new language which is a MAJOR mix of many different european languages, if you look at the likes of Old English, the root of modern english it sounds more german and we today couldnt understand most of it, its just the evolution of language. |
I pronounce solder as "sol-duh"
this is also how it is pronounced in my country.
If you choose to pronounce it like "soda" that's your business
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 03, 2004, 01:50:00 AM
Post by: Gumba on August 03, 2004, 02:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 3 2004, 09:53 AM) |
| It's saw-dur. How could it be sol-duh? Used in a sentence "I want to get a sol-duh-less modchip." |
no, you pronounce it saw-dur
you probably pronounce a lot of other words differently to other places too
for instance
Al-loo-min-eeee-umm
I wasn't asking if I was correct, I was stating a fact. "Solder is pronounced sol-duh HERE." I don't see how you're qualified to tell me its not.
personally I can't imagine how someone could pronounce "sol" as "saw"
saw-ger?
saw-lid?
saw-stiss?
saw-lo?
saw-lil-li-quiy?
saw-loo-shin?
well, maybe i can imagine it in america
..
now there seem to be two syllables (by my count, I'm sure some europeans would use 3) in solder
I pronounce the first syllable as "sol" as in the name of our sun, as in Solar System, and the second as "duh" ie shorter than "dur"
the important part as it relates to this discussion is that the "l" is NOT silent, at least *here*
Isn't pronunciation fun
PS: I have an Australian accent
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 03, 2004, 02:18:00 AM
Post by: locutus of worm on August 03, 2004, 03:09:00 AM
lol
Post by: africamagical on August 03, 2004, 05:48:00 AM
spelled solder
Post by: Gumba on August 03, 2004, 07:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (africamagical @ Aug 3 2004, 01:51 PM) |
| i deal with living with an english teacher, Its pronounced Saw-der spelled solder |
That's funny
Merriam-Webster has this to say about "sawder"
"\Saw"der\, n. A corrupt spelling and pronunciation of solder"
sawder (according to m-w) is a corrupt pronunciation of solder.
Anywho, as far as I can tell, based on the M-W (an American dictionary), its pronounced "sodder"
sod - like pod
Now, if you check the Macquarie dictionary (reference to Australian English), then its pronounced
solduh
sol as in solemn
and duh...
uh = a in apart,
Moving right along...
Collins English (English as in Great Britain
, sorry I've misplaced my OED)That's a fun one, 3 alternate pronunciations
1) soel-der, soe as in sew (British pronunciation?)
or
2) sol-der as in solemn (ie Australian pronunciation)
or
3) sodder as in sod (ie American pronunciation)
Collins doesn't bother explaining how to pronounce "der"
I wish I could find my Oxford dictionary
Post by: TimCo1980 on August 03, 2004, 03:17:00 PM
Post by: acemilo on August 03, 2004, 03:54:00 PM
Post by: pinkeye00 on August 03, 2004, 10:48:00 PM
Its like Noma in Boston. Except now its Nowmara in Chicago.
To the rest of the world, we prefer Nomar Garciapara.
- John
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (acemilo @ Aug 3 2004, 11:57 PM) |
| How about bough? And tough? British ppl make me laugh when they talk |
What about them?
Post by: acemilo on August 04, 2004, 02:10:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
Sodder is the word for someone who has anal sex with people or anamals.
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| there is no such thing as a silent L. |
Sure there is. (Clears throat)
Balm......Calm.....Almond.....Palm.....Talk......Walk.......Chalk.....Yolk.......Salmon.......Folk.......Half......Calf.....Polka.....Malcolm......Lincoln......Colonel......Could.......Would......Should.... The list goes on.
Those all have silent L's.
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 02:46:00 PM
Post by: acemilo on August 04, 2004, 04:48:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 08:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 4 2004, 10:46 PM) |
| Sure there is. (Clears throat) Balm......Calm.....Almond.....Palm.....Talk......Walk.......Chalk.....Yolk.......Salmon.......Folk.......Half......Calf.....Polka.....Malcolm......Lincoln......Colonel......Could.......Would......Should.... The list goes on. Those all have silent L's. |
FYI i was talking about in the word solder, but since you bring it up, what are you talking about? Are you mentally retarted? How is the l in balm silent? Are you telling me you pronounce all these words bam...cam...amond...pam...tak...wak? The l is sounded in every one of those words.And obviously the spelling of someones name doesnt count.
And ragelizard if i guess that means you agree with his examples then you must be seriously dumb.
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 09:08:00 PM
bomm, wock, tock, awmond, etc.
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 10:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 5 2004, 05:11 AM) |
| You fucking idiot. Like this: bomm, wock, tock, awmond, etc. |
are you joking?
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 10:42:00 PM
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 10:44:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| are you joking? |
No, I'm not.| QUOTE |
| Wait a minuete, have you just got a strong accent or something? awmond? lol. What the fuck is that? lol |
That is the American as well as the Canadian way to say it. British accents are so funny.
Mods, please close this thread so this dumbass doesn't waste Xbox Scene's bandwidth as well as your time.
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 10:46:00 PM
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 10:48:00 PM
not WoLk and ToLk.
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 10:49:00 PM
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 10:53:00 PM
Doulche
Not that I hate brits, but here are some common British phrases
"Oh dear"
"Simply dreadful"
"Cheerio"
"I'm feeling Randy" (Which means horny)
"Want a fag?" (Which means cigarette)
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 10:55:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 10:55:00 PM
oldmanjoe omg, i cant even begin to argue with you on this because you lack any understanding of grammer.
walk wock and wolk all make 3 very different sounds.
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 10:56:00 PM
W-AW-K
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 10:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 5 2004, 06:56 AM) |
| I bet he pronounces the L in that too. Doulche Not that I hate brits, but here are some common British phrases "Oh dear" "Simply dreadful" "Cheerio" "I'm feeling Randy" (Which means horny) "Want a fag?" (Which means cigarette) |
well you have obviously spent a lot of time over here. I use all of those on a daily basis, just like you probably take a gun to school while you secretly plan to masacre all your classmates
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 10:59:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:02:00 PM
I guess you also dont hear the L in almond
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 11:03:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:04:00 PM
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 11:05:00 PM
Silent b: thumb, dumb, climb, debt, doubt, subtle
Silent c: indict, muscle, Tucson, Connecticut
Silent d: handkerchief, sandwich, handsome, Wednesday
Silent e: bridge, serve, clue, many many others
Silent f: halfpenny
Silent g: light, sign, diaphragm
Silent h: hour, honor, heir, exhaust, exhibition, Birmingham
Silent i: business
Silent k: knife, knock, know, knead
Silent l: walk, talk, salmon, almond, calm, yolk
Silent m: mnemonic
Silent n: autumn, solemn, condemn, column, hymn
Silent p: corps, pneumonia, coup, receipt, cupboard, clapboard, Campbell
Silent r: many in non-rhotic English
Silent s: island, aisle, viscount
Silent t: Christmas, whistle, castle, listen, soften, often, rapport, ballet
Silent u: guest, tongue, catalogue, guide, guitar
Silent w: sword, answer, two, write, whole, whore, Greenwich, Norwich
Silent z: rendezvous, chez, laissez-faire
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 11:08:00 PM
Look at the way to pronounce it douche.
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:11:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:13:00 PM
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
Oh ya, we use the word "hot" to describe a good looking person.
They use "fit". Just like that horrible song "Fit But You Know It".
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:18:00 PM
How is hot any more valid a word?
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 11:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (Gareth2061 @ Aug 5 2004, 07:14 AM) |
| and? |
and your wrong.
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 11:19:00 PM
If we were the same person, how would we type at the same time? Unless of course I was switching between two computers at the same time trying to think of things to say to an idiot who doesn't understand English.
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 11:19:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:22:00 PM
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 11:24:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:26:00 PM
| QUOTE (ragelizard @ Aug 5 2004, 07:22 AM) |
| and your wrong. |
erm no im not, why dont you look again you dumbass lol.
You not liking that song is supposed to get at me?
You are clearly the one who doesnt understand english.
Would the word walk sound the same if you took the L out? Wak? no of course not.
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 11:28:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 04, 2004, 11:29:00 PM
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 11:37:00 PM
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 04, 2004, 11:39:00 PM
Post by: ragelizard on August 04, 2004, 11:39:00 PM
Post by: acemilo on August 04, 2004, 11:49:00 PM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 05, 2004, 12:06:00 AM
Oldmanjoe what the hell are you talking about? YOUR the one who went to all the trouble writing up a list of words with L in them.
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 05, 2004, 12:09:00 AM
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 05, 2004, 12:11:00 AM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 05, 2004, 12:13:00 AM
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 05, 2004, 12:19:00 AM
I bet you pronounce the w in "answer".
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 05, 2004, 12:21:00 AM
Post by: ragelizard on August 05, 2004, 12:21:00 AM
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 05, 2004, 12:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (phiquach @ Aug 5 2004, 08:23 AM) |
| actually, depends on where you come from, southern part of the states, northern, and central obviously have a different accents. so clearly, the US is full of different accents. there is no definitive one. |
Of course it is the same with everywhere, there is no one who doesnt have an accent of some description
Post by: Gumba on August 05, 2004, 02:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 4 2004, 10:46 PM) |
| Sure there is. (Clears throat) Balm......Calm.....Almond.....Palm.....Talk......Walk.......Chalk.....Yolk.......Salmon.......Folk.......Half......Calf.....Polka.....Malcolm......Lincoln......Colonel......Could.......Would......Should.... The list goes on. Those all have silent L's. |
Which part of "silent" don't you understand?
the l is not silent in most of those, its more often pronounced as an r
balm would be bam if the l was silent, but its not, its barm, carm
almond, funny, I know two ways of pronouncing that
almond and armond, i don't think its pronounced as ammond very often
palm, could be parm, but I don't think it could be pam
tork
notice walk is not pronounced the same as work? wark
choork
yolk is interesting, the l modifies the o, so yoke instead of yok,
salmon, some people do pronounce this with a silent l, others pronounce the l, salmon or sammon
folk foke,
half, I guess you could pronounce it "haff" or you could pronounce it "harf"
carf, (i suppopse you could pronounce it kaff
)polka is pronounced polka, damn, i suppose some pronounce it poker or pokker, again that comes back to the solder vs soder vs sodder debate
malcolm, two ls which are pronounced as far as I can tell
Lincoln... i suppose there could be a silent l there... in some accents
colonel, again, the l is not silent, merely modified, otherwise we'd be speaking about connels or coonels... hmmm, actually I suppose some accents do say coonel or connel
Could, fairly silent, kood
would, again, silent, wood
should, again, shood
the majority of those do NOT have silent L's
comes back to the whole damn point, regional variation
deal with it
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 05, 2004, 02:33:00 AM
Post by: Gumba on August 05, 2004, 02:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gareth2061 @ Aug 5 2004, 06:43 AM) |
| are you joking? |
hehe
Post by: Gumba on August 05, 2004, 02:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 5 2004, 07:02 AM) |
| I just realised.... What does this have to do with Xenium? |
Xenium...
shouldn't that be Xenum?
Zenium or Zeeenium?
Just remember, OzXodus begins with "OzX"
Post by: Gumba on August 05, 2004, 02:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 5 2004, 10:36 AM) |
| Nobody uses r's instead of L's fool. Face it, they are silent. |
Just because everyone you know talks with a nasally whiny US accent doesn't mean that's the entire world.
Grow up.
Post by: Gumba on August 05, 2004, 02:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gareth2061 @ Aug 5 2004, 07:29 AM) |
| Would the word walk sound the same if you took the L out? Wak? no of course not. |
Be funny if it did...
"why don't you just go for a quick whack in the park"
i wonder if the euphemism is lost on the majority here?
Post by: Gumba on August 05, 2004, 02:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 5 2004, 08:14 AM) |
| I know everyone has an accent, but American and Canadian accents are so light that they aren't noticable. Australians have huge accents, a little stronger than British accents. |
Trust me, everyone thinks the same about everyone else's accents...
except the scottish
Post by: Gumba on August 05, 2004, 02:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (Oldmanjoe @ Aug 5 2004, 08:22 AM) |
| I'm not American I bet you pronounce the w in "answer". |
Haha
are you canadian then?
ever wondered why when ever you travel people "accuse" you of being american?
could it be because aside from a slight nasal difference and a few strange vocalisations (eh, boot), your accent is mainly american?
nothing seems to annoy a canadian more than been told how american they are
Post by: TSOPrano on August 05, 2004, 05:26:00 AM
Post by: silentsnake on August 05, 2004, 07:55:00 AM
Post by: Oldmanjoe on August 05, 2004, 11:21:00 AM
Post by: silentsnake on August 05, 2004, 11:27:00 AM
| QUOTE (phiquach @ Aug 5 2004, 06:15 PM) |
| lol... FUNNY!!! clearly, bird is not boaid if you want to talk about the New York accent. but anyways... don't you guys see if funny... that this thread has gone so long?!??! where is the mod!??! |
what the hell are you talking about ?
Post by: Gumba on August 05, 2004, 11:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (silentsnake @ Aug 5 2004, 07:30 PM) |
| what the hell are you talking about ? |
You know
"look at that boyd in the tree"
Post by: Gareth2061 on August 05, 2004, 06:58:00 PM
Post by: acemilo on August 05, 2004, 09:15:00 PM
Post by: silentsnake on August 05, 2004, 09:16:00 PM