Post by: Outrager on July 20, 2004, 04:23:00 PM
I launch the Retail Kernal (TSOP) thru Xenium OS2 and I put in my Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow (retail) disc to see if I can still play my games on Live. It freezes at the big X logo after the blubber effect. I wait 5 minutes or so hoping it will work, but it doesn't do anything. I also try ESPN Football 2k4 and it loads, but freezes after the intro movie to the game. I try Soul Caliber 2 and that loads up to the main menu, but I didn't try starting a fight.
When I have no disc in the XBox I get the the normal configuration screen and I go to Music section. I try deleting soundtracks I made, but it doesn't delete them. I try going to the save manager section and deleting the soundtracks from their and it also doesn't delete them.
I didn't know what to do so I tried putting the original HD back in instead of the new 80GB, take out the modchip, and I get the screen that says my XBox needs to be serviced.
That didn't work, so I put the modchip back in and put the 80GB back in as well. I can play backup games on my new HD perfectly fine except I can't play the retail disc games. I'm thinking it has something to do with the HD not being locked, but in both Xenium OS2 and EvoX they say my HD is locked.
Does anyone know what could be wrong?
Post by: Outrager on July 20, 2004, 04:35:00 PM
When I tried Halo the XBox asked me for the time because it seems be have been reset even though I haven't unplugged it and the time is fine in EvoX.
I also checked the XBox Live section in the MSDashboard using the Retail Kernal and it seems that my account has been erased. Could recovering my account make everything better? I don't want to sign on Live yet because since my retail DVDs aren't even working properly they might ban my XBox.
Post by: AmO on July 20, 2004, 05:46:00 PM
P.S. - Do at your own risk. I use Live all the time with my xenium using the TSOP in my xbox and I have NEVER had a single problem. If you make a mistake I take no responsibility.
Post by: xFusioNx on July 20, 2004, 04:53:00 PM
Post by: Outrager on July 20, 2004, 07:33:00 PM
Post by: Outrager on July 20, 2004, 10:34:00 PM
Post by: Chocula on July 22, 2004, 07:03:00 PM
The data is copies over fine, but the partitions are not formated correctly. I do not know if all of the partitions are messed up or just one, but I redid all of them and it works.
The tutorial for upgrading your hard drive using EvolutionX can be found at:
http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/hdd-install.php
The part that you need to be concerned with is "Formatting the New Hard Disk".
Assuming you have already loaded EvolutionX on the hard drive, you do not need to make a DVD, everything can be done from the new hard drive. You do NOT need to connect your original hard drive, keeping this safe should anything go wrong.
First backup your C: and E: drives, F: should be backed up too if you have any data on it that you want to keep. Just FTP the entire contents of the drive to your PC in such a way that you can load it back. I made a seperate directory for my C: and my E: drives.
(from the tutorial)
1. "Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1" (Do 1-6)
You will receive a [key] reply from the Xbox that will appear in your FTP client
2. "Formatdrive [key]" (obviously youd enter the actual key that you received, not [key])
Disconnect and reconnect your FTP client, or at least refresh list of files so that it correctly shows the C: and E: (and possibly F:) drives are empty, then copy back the data you backed up. Restart your system and everything should be working.
Chocula
Post by: Megaloballer on July 22, 2004, 09:23:00 PM
Post by: humptiness on July 22, 2004, 09:18:00 PM
Post by: Outrager on July 22, 2004, 11:23:00 PM
Post by: Gumba on July 23, 2004, 05:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (Outrager @ Jul 23 2004, 07:19 AM) |
| Thanks Chocula. I hope this is really what's wrong and it works. Weird thing is that with so many people probably using the ICE and the OS2 HD Wizard I would think that this problem would be a little more wide spread and documented. Or maybe I just don't know where to look. |
I haven't been able to play PGR2 on my xbox 1.4 with xen blue and XOS2b
Either from the original disc or from a backup :-\
I upgraded the HD from retail to 120GB using XOS2b
same bug?
[EDIT]
I have now fixed this without having to format F:
)see my lil tute
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=1641972
[/EDIT]
Post by: MicroChip on July 23, 2004, 08:19:00 AM
| QUOTE (Chocula @ Jul 23 2004, 02:03 AM) |
| The tutorial for upgrading your hard drive using EvolutionX can be found at: http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/hdd-install.php The part that you need to be concerned with is "Formatting the New Hard Disk". Assuming you have already loaded EvolutionX on the hard drive, you do not need to make a DVD, everything can be done from the new hard drive. You do NOT need to connect your original hard drive, keeping this safe should anything go wrong. First backup your C: and E: drives, F: should be backed up too if you have any data on it that you want to keep. Just FTP the entire contents of the drive to your PC in such a way that you can load it back. I made a seperate directory for my C: and my E: drives. (from the tutorial) 1. "Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1" (Do 1-6) You will receive a [key] reply from the Xbox that will appear in your FTP client 2. "Formatdrive [key]" (obviously youd enter the actual key that you received, not [key]) Disconnect and reconnect your FTP client, or at least refresh list of files so that it correctly shows the C: and E: (and possibly F:) drives are empty, then copy back the data you backed up. Restart your system and everything should be working. Chocula |
Question:
Could we, instead, backup everything on C: E: and F: by FTP, boot to Evox already installed as dash, use their built in format tool to format the 3 partitions, reboot the xbox to OS2 and use it's ftp to restore C:, then boot back in to Evox and use it's ftp to restore E: and F: ?
Thanks!
MC
Post by: Outrager on July 23, 2004, 08:45:00 AM
The only thing that still seems to freeze is XBMC's Weather lookup. But that might be a problem with XBMC, I don't know.
Post by: Chocula on July 23, 2004, 11:41:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Question: Could we, instead, backup everything on C: E: and F: by FTP, boot to Evox already installed as dash, use their built in format tool to format the 3 partitions, reboot the xbox to OS2 and use it's ftp to restore C:, then boot back in to Evox and use it's ftp to restore E: and F: ? Thanks! MC |
Yes, you want to make sure that you use EvolutionX's format as opposed to OS2's. How you get the data off and back does not matter. I personally loaded EvolutionX from the hard drive, copied off the data, formated, the replaced the data before rebooting the xbox and it worked fine.
| QUOTE |
| The only thing that still seems to freeze is XBMC's Weather lookup. But that might be a problem with XBMC, I don't know. |
The weather lookup has a long timeout. Make sure your xbox is able to see the internet properly, correct IP address, subnet mask and default gateway.
I intentionally set mine up with a wrong gateway to prevent it from seeing the internet until I had a better understanding of what it was doing. The weather lookup responded exactly as you are describing. It works fine after I entered correct information into the default gateway so that it could find the site it is looking for.
Chocula
Post by: Outrager on July 23, 2004, 01:44:00 PM
I also just renewed my XBox Live account with a starter kit and I called up MS and they gave me a choice of 3 games to get for free: PGR2, Crimson Skies, or CS. I have PGR2 and Crimson Skies. CS I used to have but traded for Rainbow Six 3. So I told them to send CS.
And I also save $150 from having to buy another XBox to play my Live games.Finally, I love XBMC. It's so much better watching videos on the TV and my couch then on my crappy computer chair using ear buds. Luckily I have a nice monitor.
Post by: Gumba on July 26, 2004, 05:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (MicroChip @ Jul 23 2004, 03:19 PM) |
| Question: Could we, instead, backup everything on C: E: and F: by FTP, boot to Evox already installed as dash, use their built in format tool to format the 3 partitions, reboot the xbox to OS2 and use it's ftp to restore C:, then boot back in to Evox and use it's ftp to restore E: and F: ? Thanks! MC |
YOU DO NOT NEED TO FORMAT F:!!!
You don't need to backup f, you don't need to restore it, and you don't need to open your xbox, nor burn CDs.
Complete Guide to Fixing the Xenium OS2 Beta and Pre-release Formatting/Xbox Live Bug V2 (5-10mins)
Introduction
The Xenium OS 2 Beta (and the Pre-Release on the ICE chips), has a bug in its drive formatting Tools. If you use XOS2 to prepare your HD, then you won't be able to run many Xbox Live games, instead they will freeze after the studio titles, or before them, or while loading the main game (depends on the game), even off the retail discs while booted with the retail bios (TSOP)!
To fix it you need to reformat your E partition with the EvolutionX dashboard's built in formatter, which is accessed via FTP, but you will not need to format your C, F or G drives. Not having to format C is a lot safer as you do not have to wipe your Xboxes operating system, not formatting F or G (if it exists) will save you LOTS of time (days) and frustration if you actually have anything on F or G
.Guide
*) Note: you should try just deleting the files in the e:\cache directory and see if that fixes your problem. If it does, please post details in this thread. Thankyou.
1) ftp the contents of your E drive to a separate folder on your PC, If you have HUGE folders on your E drive (e/apps and e/roms perhaps?) then you may just want to move them to F first? might be faster than FTPing them.
1.5) if you have avalaunch, install evox (remember to configure the IP address) on your c drive and rename avalaunch.xbe (avalaunch-.xbe will do) (assuming X2 bios)
2) reboot xbox, connect via ftp to evox
3) Format partition 1 (E drive) using raw FTP commands via your FTP client ie
| QUOTE (from the evox tutorial - modified) |
1. "Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1" You will receive a [key] reply from the Xbox that will appear in your FTP client 2. "Formatdrive [key]" (obviously youd enter the actual key that you received, not [key]) |
4) disconnect and reconnect to the evox ftp server
5) upload the contents of the E drive back to the xbox
5.5) if you were using avalaunch before, then rename the avalaunch xbe back to what it was before ("avalaunch.xbe" for my bios)
NOTE: If you have UnleashX there is an easier way to format E rather than using EvoX http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=1725421
My Testing Methodology
I formatted Y, then X, then Z, then C, then E in the process of fixing this, I tested after each drive was formatted by trying to boot my PGR2 retail disc, and the problem (ie PGR2, Amped2 and other Live games would not fully run, even from the retail discs) was only fixed after E... So, the only things I could say were that
1) E must be formatted, and
2) formatting C, E, X,Y,Z does fix the problem.
3) F does not need to be formatted (and thus neither backed up, nor restored!)
I then posted v1 of this guide, in which I asked others to try formatting E first to see if you only need to format E. A number of people who used my guide reported they only had to format E, so I'm updating the guide to v2
In retrospect I think this makes sense, E drive is the first partition, and thus the most likely to have a critical problem I suppose.
FYI: Xbox partition map: 1=E 2=C 3=X 4=Y 5=Z 6=F 7=G
Appleguru and myself worked this out in a chat.
Thanks to all
[EDIT]Updated to V2[/EDIT]
[EDIT]Added UnleashX note[/EDIT]
[EDIT]Added e:\cache note[/EDIT]
Post by: appleguru on July 26, 2004, 05:44:00 PM
) Not having to do F saves tons of time
Post by: Outrager on July 26, 2004, 08:46:00 PM
Maybe we should make this a pinned thread or start a new thread with just the important information and make it pinned.
Post by: Gumba on July 26, 2004, 09:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (Outrager @ Jul 27 2004, 04:42 AM) |
| Thanks for the info. Too bad I had to transfer around 35GB of data from my F to my PC back to F, because I did it before this. I'll tell you right now, that takes a hell of a long time. While transferring from my PC back to the XBox, I went to sleep and when I woke up it still had a few minutes to go. Maybe we should make this a pinned thread or start a new thread with just the important information and make it pinned. |
Yes, I was about 30% of the way through backing up 100GB to 8 different HDs over 4 PCs after 1.5 days of ftping (long story short), hence my desperation to find a better way
Post by: screamingFit on July 27, 2004, 06:07:00 AM
Weird - I know.
Post by: psm on July 28, 2004, 11:25:00 AM
SO reading Gumba post, I have a couple of questions --
Does this mean that you should use the OS2 hdd format tool first, or do you use evox after using the OS2 tool?
I am following the old tut and putting a CDRW into the xbox. Please help
This post has been edited by psm: Jul 28 2004, 06:44 PM
Post by: xboxjohn33 on July 28, 2004, 04:57:00 PM
Thanks Again
Post by: Outrager on July 28, 2004, 05:19:00 PM
Post by: Gumba on July 28, 2004, 07:53:00 PM
| QUOTE (Outrager @ Jul 29 2004, 01:15 AM) |
| BTW, does anyone know why there's an X, Y, and Z drive? They seem to each take up 700MB. |
[offtopic]The XYZ drives are HD caches, any game can use any of those drives as a cache. So for example, when you are playing halo and it loads a level map it will write it to whichever cache drive its decided to use, until you have 700MB of levels loaded, and it starts bumping out the earlier levels, you will get much faster loading time.
3 drives means the most recent 3 games you played can be cached
One reason why XBox loading times are so much better than PS2
[/offtopic]
Post by: Gumba on July 28, 2004, 07:55:00 PM
| QUOTE (xboxjohn33 @ Jul 29 2004, 12:53 AM) |
| Thanks Gumba and Chocula for the info and anyone else who added to this post. I don't have to buy a new xbox now. I only formatted E: drive and PGR2 works now. This post should be pinned for all the people that have the OS2. I have searched forums for three days untill I finally found this post. Thanks Again |
So, you didn't format C or XYZ?
Cool.
Can anyone else double confirm that you *only* need to format E:?
Post by: Gumba on July 28, 2004, 08:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (psm @ Jul 28 2004, 07:21 PM) |
| A noob here SO reading Gumba post, I have a couple of questions -- Does this mean that you should use the OS2 hdd format tool first, or do you use evox after using the OS2 tool? I am following the old tut and putting a CDRW into the xbox. Please help |
If you can use CDRWs with your xbox then you could use the old method and I'm sure it'd be fine.
The problem is a lot of xboxes don't have very good dvd drives and have trouble reading CDRWs, and this is one of the major features of the xenium, being able to format without using any media.
So, you can do it either way.
Personally, I would recommend setting up with the xenium os as normal, and then fixing the problem (according xboxjohn33 you only need to repartition e:, which makes it very easy). This will give you a 100% media free installation, which I am all for.
But feel free to do a media based installation if you are more comfortable with that
Post by: SmokedSober on July 29, 2004, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: xboxjohn33 on July 29, 2004, 07:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Jul 29 2004, 04:01 AM) |
| Personally, I would recommend setting up with the xenium os as normal, and then fixing the problem (according xboxjohn33 you only need to repartition e:, which makes it very easy). This will give you a 100% media free installation, which I am all for. |
To clarify things, it was a virgin Xbox harddrive which I screwed up the E partition with BoxExplorer. Everything was fine until I decided to reformat the E drive (only)with OS2. I then restored it from a backup. Xbox Live enabled games then would hang. Then formatted with EvolutionX (Thanks to this post), now it all works again. Hope they get this bug worked out for the final release of OS2.
Post by: Outrager on July 29, 2004, 08:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (xboxjohn33 @ Jul 30 2004, 03:48 AM) |
| To clarify things, it was a virgin Xbox harddrive which I screwed up the E partition with BoxExplorer. Everything was fine until I decided to reformat the E drive (only)with OS2. I then restored it from a backup. Xbox Live enabled games then would hang. Then formatted with EvolutionX (Thanks to this post), now it all works again. Hope they get this bug worked out for the final release of OS2. |
Considering it seems like a simple reformatting of the drives I don't think it should be too hard to work out. If only they released a fixed OS right away instead of letting this carry on. Or at least have something official on their website stating there's a problem and how to fix it.
Post by: Neo_313 on July 29, 2004, 09:24:00 PM
Post by: Gumba on July 30, 2004, 04:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (Neo_313 @ Jul 30 2004, 05:20 AM) |
| So it sounds like the people having problems is the people who had hard drives put in right? |
People having problems are the people who used the Xenium OS2 Beta or Pre-release to format or upgrade their HDs. Which is the quickest and easiest way to upgrade an HD to a bigger one
Post by: Gumba on August 06, 2004, 01:21:00 AM
| QUOTE (MrMuskle @ Aug 5 2004, 10:05 PM) |
| Gumba, long have I searched for a solution to this problem (Rallisport Challenge 2, Splinter Cell 2, Network Settings and Account Recovery problems) and today I have found it You are a living legend, I owe you one  |
Thanks, let us know how it goes (or if its already gone
)
Post by: pinkeye00 on August 07, 2004, 02:14:00 PM
Post by: humptiness on August 09, 2004, 05:58:00 AM
Post by: pinkeye00 on August 10, 2004, 05:18:00 PM
http://www.xbox-scen...les/hdd-ftp.php
Post by: Gumba on August 11, 2004, 03:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (humptiness @ Aug 9 2004, 02:01 PM) |
| Gumba was right. It's the Xenium OS 2 HD upgrade wizard that is causing the problems. I backed-up, formated my Xbox HD using EvoX and then restored and now everything works fine. |
Yup, but all you have to backup + format + restore is your e drive
Important point as it can take a VERY long time to backup and restore f
Post by: appleguru on August 12, 2004, 02:13:00 PM
Post by: pinkeye00 on August 13, 2004, 06:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Jul 23 2004, 01:20 PM) |
| I haven't been able to play PGR2 on my xbox 1.4 with xen blue and XOS2b Either from the original disc or from a backup :-\ I upgraded the HD from retail to 120GB using XOS2b same bug? [EDIT] I have now fixed this without having to format F: )see my lil tute http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=1641972 [/EDIT] |
The FTP raw commands give me a "device not found" error. I'll post it later tonight, but thats using FlashFXP.
Post by: DvsDesigns on August 14, 2004, 05:16:00 AM
| QUOTE (SmokedSober @ Jul 29 2004, 08:49 PM) |
| I had the same problem everyone else had until I followed this little guide, but now a new problem has arose. I don't know if it's something I missed to cause this or what, but now when I enter my TSOP, I no longer have any of my saved games or soundtracks. I know they were there before I did this guide, and I know I put everything back into the E: drive that I backed up. Any suggestions as to what I did? |
So you know all of the saved game files are located in the Udata folder on the e drive if you do not back up and restore this folder all of your saved games will be lost...
Post by: Gumba on August 14, 2004, 09:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (DvsDesigns @ Aug 14 2004, 01:19 PM) |
| So you know all of the saved game files are located in the Udata folder on the e drive if you do not back up and restore this folder all of your saved games will be lost... |
And you music is backed up in the TDATA folder (and other game specific data)
Sounds like you either screwed up the backup, or the restore
Post by: counter terrorist dan on August 14, 2004, 01:38:00 PM
The tutorial on formatting the drives through evolution x ftp talks about making a cd, i've already copied the seagate (stock) onto a Maxtor 160g Ultra series, through the pre-release OS that came with my Ice. Evolution X is already on this drive, so i don't have to boot from a cd to load it, do I?
Post by: counter terrorist dan on August 14, 2004, 02:08:00 PM
Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
500 Syntax error, command unrecognized or malformed
I don't have the first clue what to give for raw commands, i just kind of guessed at what it said. I still don't understand the reason for using evolution x for anything..
if someone could tell me exactly what to give for raw commands, it would be excellent, and also, am i supposed to have the E drive on my Xbox highlighted for the raw commands? Or am i supposed to highlight the backup of the E drive on my computer and give that raw commands?
Post by: counter terrorist dan on August 14, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
I am using FlashFXP.
Does anyone have any ideas.???????
Post by: counter terrorist dan on August 14, 2004, 02:25:00 PM
Edit:
Will not connect for ftp-ing when Exolution X is running. I'm sorry to make so many posts, i'll just edit this one from now on, wasn't thinking.
EDIT again: i deleted all of the games off of my E: drive on my xbox, and re-copied counter strike with unleash X. This worked. So since i only had a couple games on there to begin with, i will just re-copy all my games and hope for the best. For the record i formatted nothing, just deleted the games. They are running in folder F: now though.
Post by: Gumba on August 14, 2004, 07:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (counter terrorist dan @ Aug 14 2004, 09:41 PM) |
| currently backing up my E: onto my computer. XBMC takes so long! The tutorial on formatting the drives through evolution x ftp talks about making a cd, i've already copied the seagate (stock) onto a Maxtor 160g Ultra series, through the pre-release OS that came with my Ice. Evolution X is already on this drive, so i don't have to boot from a cd to load it, do I? |
Nope, you can just run evox (it doesn't even have to be your dash)
Post by: Gumba on August 14, 2004, 07:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (counter terrorist dan @ Aug 14 2004, 10:11 PM) |
| I tried formatting with the 'raw command', don't efel very confident i did it right. It gave me this message my second try: Formatpath \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1 500 Syntax error, command unrecognized or malformed I don't have the first clue what to give for raw commands, i just kind of guessed at what it said. I still don't understand the reason for using evolution x for anything.. if someone could tell me exactly what to give for raw commands, it would be excellent, and also, am i supposed to have the E drive on my Xbox highlighted for the raw commands? Or am i supposed to highlight the backup of the E drive on my computer and give that raw commands? |
You must give this raw command to the ftp server built into evox, not to the one in XBMC or Ava or the Xenium (etc)
If you still get a problem, ensure that you're running a modern version of evox (say... the latest)
Post by: Gumba on August 17, 2004, 05:28:00 PM
Apparently this fix fixes both issues, but can anyone definitively confirm this?
Post by: counter terrorist dan on August 18, 2004, 10:09:00 AM
but for the record, i've put 17 games on my maxtor 160, many of them live enabled, and for me, copying the games with unleash x after the new harddrive installation seems to work as well. i haven't had problems yet. but i'll format 'for good measure'.
Post by: Gumba on August 18, 2004, 06:33:00 PM
| QUOTE (Van_Koo_Ver @ Aug 18 2004, 05:24 PM) |
| I'm using UnleashX as my dashboard and came across the same issues in this thread (games freezing right after the opening credits which appear to be the result of a bug with OS2's drive upgrade feature). Nobody mentioned anything about how to format the E: drive using UnleashX. Its WAY simpler than anything documented in this thread. |
Wow, that is simpler, glad it works
I'll test this later an put it in the next revision of this guide (if the bug isn't fixed by then)
Post by: carlosian on August 22, 2004, 11:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Jul 27 2004, 01:30 AM) |
| [ To fix it you need to reformat your E partition with the EvolutionX dashboard's built in formatter, which is accessed via FTP, but you will not need to format your C, F or G drives. Not having to format C is a lot safer as you do not have to wipe your Xboxes operating system, not formatting F or G (if it exists) will save you LOTS of time (days) and frustration if you actually have anything on F or G .Guide 1) ftp the contents of your E drive to a separate folder on your PC, If you have HUGE folders on your E drive (e/apps and e/roms perhaps?) then you may just want to move them to F first? might be faster than FTPing them. 1.5) if you have avalaunch, install evox (remember to configure the IP address) on your c drive and rename avalaunch.xbe (avalaunch-.xbe will do) (assuming X2 bios) 2) reboot xbox, connect via ftp to evox 3) Format partition 1 (E drive) using raw FTP commands via your FTP client ie |
how the hell do you do this? maybe i've read this wrong but does this mean that you have to use the ftp client to format your e drive?
i've never been able to do this with flashfxp
sorry for being such a noob. i would like help formating the e drive
thanks
Post by: Gumba on August 22, 2004, 05:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (carlosian @ Aug 22 2004, 07:47 PM) |
| how the hell do you do this? maybe i've read this wrong but does this mean that you have to use the ftp client to format your e drive? i've never been able to do this with flashfxp sorry for being such a noob. i would like help formating the e drive thanks |
Well, I havne't used FlashFXP in a long time, so I can't tell you exactly how to do it, but yes, you use your ftp client to tell evox to format the HD.
The way you do this is to connect to your xbox, while evox is running, and then send a raw command to the xbox, the "FormatPartition" command.
So, you need to find out how to send raw commands with FlashFXP (read the manual, ask them, ask someone else... etc)
Post by: carlosian on August 22, 2004, 07:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Aug 23 2004, 01:28 AM) |
| Well, I havne't used FlashFXP in a long time, so I can't tell you exactly how to do it, but yes, you use your ftp client to tell evox to format the HD. The way you do this is to connect to your xbox, while evox is running, and then send a raw command to the xbox, the "FormatPartition" command. So, you need to find out how to send raw commands with FlashFXP (read the manual, ask them, ask someone else... etc) |
anyone knows of guides or tutorials that show how to do this? what ftp program did you use to format the e drive while evoX is on?
Post by: Gumba on August 22, 2004, 09:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (carlosian @ Aug 23 2004, 03:59 AM) |
| anyone knows of guides or tutorials that show how to do this? what ftp program did you use to format the e drive while evoX is on? |
I used a program called Fetch... it runs on OSX
but the FTP client makes no difference to the actual format, it just allows you to send the commands.
Post by: carlosian on August 22, 2004, 09:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Aug 23 2004, 05:14 AM) |
| I used a program called Fetch... it runs on OSX but the FTP client makes no difference to the actual format, it just allows you to send the commands. |
ok so let me get this straight, and tell me if this is the way to do it
1. do the disc thing with xenium os2
2. fix the evoX dash file with the command to format e partion
3. transfer it with your ftp protocol
is that the way to do it?
Post by: Gumba on August 23, 2004, 12:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (carlosian @ Aug 23 2004, 05:31 AM) |
| ok so let me get this straight, and tell me if this is the way to do it 1. do the disc thing with xenium os2 2. fix the evoX dash file with the command to format e partion 3. transfer it with your ftp protocol is that the way to do it? |
1) do the disk thing with XOS2
2) backup e drive to pc with ftp client
3) format e drive with the command via ftp client
4) restore e drive to xbox from pc with ftp client
If you don't do the backup/restore bit you will lose all your saves
Post by: Gumba on August 23, 2004, 11:36:00 PM
You should all upgrade to that.
I'm not sure how this affects the Xbox Live Formatter bug, its supposed to fix it... but I have a feeling that's just for future upgrades.
If you upgraded your HD with XOS2beta1 or XOS2Pre-release, you will probably still have the bug :-\
If you *do* have the bug, can you try upgrading to XOS2beta2, then using the format option in XOS2 to format your e drive rather than evox?
Thanks.
Post by: Gumba on August 29, 2004, 01:15:00 AM
| QUOTE (Axiom @ Aug 29 2004, 05:43 AM) |
| Thx Gumba ! [Edit] Ok, so I THOUGHT this would work, since it seems to work for everyone else, but unfortunately for me, it doesn't. I have tried both formatting via EvoX/FTP & via UnleashX, but XBL games still hang. Short of sniping the next living thing I see, is there ANYTHING else I can try ??? (Even though this doesn't work for me, still, great work and thanks again ) |
You can try
1) setting your time
2) deleting the e:\cache directory
3) formatting the x,y,z partitions
Post by: yagoogaly on August 30, 2004, 09:03:00 PM
If i do buy it will the bug be fixed? all this is really confusing me...
Post by: appleguru on August 31, 2004, 07:53:00 AM
Post by: dankim831 on September 01, 2004, 12:30:00 AM
Post by: The Wizzard on September 01, 2004, 02:05:00 AM
Before you go away and reformat your drives and ftp everything off and on to your xbox which can be very time consuming try this.
1. ftp to your xbox and delete all cache entries, ie files in e:\cache folder, not the folder just the files within it. Then delete all files in the x: y: and z: drives.
reboot the xbox and try the games again.
If your still having troubles with some games use xbox save manager to delete the save files for that particular game on the e drive, if your want to be able to put them back just in case that didn't work copy them to your hard drive first.
This worked for me I'm now able to play all the games on my new hard drive.
Post by: replicacpp on September 02, 2004, 12:07:00 PM
).Now Madden 2005 is booting,
Thanks to the people who find the solution(Goomba and others)
(XODUS TEAM: Fix this! your beta 2 log says you fix this and is not FIXED)
Changelog for BETA 2
"- Fixed problem with HDD Upgrade Wizard not copying some Live information properly "
Post by: Gumba on September 03, 2004, 01:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (replicacpp @ Sep 2 2004, 08:10 PM) |
| I moved back all my content from F: to E: using UNLEASHX FILE manager and Walla |
PS: Its spelt "voilà"
Post by: Artifex on September 03, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (replicacpp @ Sep 2 2004, 08:10 PM) |
| (XODUS TEAM: Fix this! your beta 2 log says you fix this and is not FIXED) Changelog for BETA 2 "- Fixed problem with HDD Upgrade Wizard not copying some Live information properly " |
Please do not make assumptions, jump to conclusions, and assume that our changelog is wrong.
Just some clarification on this whole situation:
XOS2 beta 1 had a nasty bug. When you used the hdd upgrade wizard, it failed to copy a few important sectors of the harddrive, and because of this, users were unable to sign onto Live with the upgraded harddrive.
This has been fixed in beta 2. Users who did the hdd upgrade with beta 1 will continue to be affected by the bug after the upgrade to beta 2. We may provide a utility to "fix" affected upgrades. Gumba's method is also a reasonable and correct workaround.
People who do the hdd upgrade with beta 2 should not experience this bug, and will be able to sign on to Live.
Although this *may* have been the reason why some live enabled retail games were failing, we believe there may be another factor as well, which is currently unresolved.
We are currently investigating the issues discussed in this and other threads, and will let you know.
--Artifex
Post by: Artifex on September 04, 2004, 02:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (replicacpp @ Sep 4 2004, 07:05 PM) |
| Well at least someone is listening thanks for that. Actually that asumption was not made only by me. It was made by almost everybody here on this thread. Dont get me wrong here but the Topic of this Thread is "Can't Play Retail Games". Actually I havent read of anybody complaining of the "unable to sign onto Live with the upgraded harddrive." Well after the fix that Goomba and others posted here, even on Beta 1. Any way just wanted to let everybody know in this forum that our assumptions of the changelog where not what we expected. And its still a problem to be solved maybe on next Beta 3 or Final. Again I am happy that you are working on it, and thanks for that. And Goomba... Voila, hehe |
Yes, we're all listening.... we're also all rather busy lately, and sometimes it's hard to fit in time for forum browsing and replying. We're working on that, though.
It is confirmed that some games were fixed along with the live signon bug. Others were not.
And, yes, actually both bugs were discussed in this, and related threads.
--Arti
Post by: Free$10 on September 07, 2004, 12:32:00 PM
Post by: Gumba on September 08, 2004, 11:19:00 AM
| QUOTE (Free$10 @ Sep 7 2004, 08:35 PM) |
| ok guys i have a similar problem here.i have a version 1.6 xbox with m8 bios on it and i try to run games likes prince of perisa.driver 3...toca race drive 2 and they freeize on the loading part in avaulaunch...most games work its just a few that dont....now if i take the same hard drive and put it in a verision 1.1 xbox the games work perfectly and i get no freezing.....so i dont think its this E drive formatting business.....i think its the bios thats the problem.....my v1.1 has a xecutor bios while on the version 1.6 i have the m8_16 one. |
It really does sound like the e-drive thing to me... and I have no idea why you think because it works in your other box discounts the e-drive thing, sounds like it proves it to me
| QUOTE |
| Complete Guide to Fixing the Xenium OS2 Beta and Pre-release Formatting/Xbox Live Bug V2 (5-10mins) Introduction The Xenium OS 2 Beta (and the Pre-Release on the ICE chips), has a bug in its drive formatting Tools. If you use XOS2 to prepare your HD, then you won't be able to run many Xbox Live games, instead they will freeze after the studio titles, or before them, or while loading the main game (depends on the game), even off the retail discs while booted with the retail bios (TSOP)! To fix it you need to reformat your E partition with the EvolutionX dashboard's built in formatter, which is accessed via FTP, but you will not need to format your C, F or G drives. Not having to format C is a lot safer as you do not have to wipe your Xboxes operating system, not formatting F or G (if it exists) will save you LOTS of time (days) and frustration if you actually have anything on F or G .Guide http://forums.xbox-s...5 |
Unless of course your other box also sufferes from the 'e-drive' bug.
Post by: akumabas on September 09, 2004, 09:22:00 AM
Post by: Gumba on September 22, 2004, 07:42:00 PM
| QUOTE (son_of_a_duck @ Sep 22 2004, 08:15 PM) |
| Alright, I've read all 6 pages of this topic and it sounds really simple to do. Unfortunately it hasn't worked for me. The only time I can ftp to my xbox is when I'm on the opening Xenium screen. I tried startin' the evox dash first and then ftp but that didn't work either. I might be missing something. I'm using Fetch for OSX and the "Send FTP Command(s)" option. I think I've tried everything so I must be missing something. Any help would be great. |
You can't do it from the Xenium FTP server, you have to use the Evox FTP server, which means you have to check the evox.ini file to make sure the ftp server is setup
In fetch, make sure you show the transcript window
Post by: bluchp on September 24, 2004, 01:48:00 PM
Post by: hei_q on September 24, 2004, 06:54:00 PM
worked for me too. I used the os 2 beta 2 and the upgrade wizard for a 160 gb samsung.
Burnout 3 freezes up on the half loading screen.
now i read this 6 pages and now the first step for me was to delete the e:\cache
and...
Voilà (or walla
)Burnout 3 runs!
I will test a few more xbl games but i think this has fixed the problem!
So... THX to all in this THREAD!!!
Greetings
hei_q
Post by: Gumba on September 24, 2004, 07:50:00 PM
) then do the e: format
Post by: cheeseccs on September 25, 2004, 01:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumba @ Sep 25 2004, 03:53 AM) |
| Yes, I upgraded another Xbox with XOS2b2 the other day XBL games froze, so I erased the contents of e:\cache and that fixed it. Now, until I do another Xbox and check the XOX2b1 case I can't actually say if this is just how it works with XOS2b2 or how it always was. Anyway, if you have problems first try deleting the e:\cache files and if symptoms persist ( ) then do the e: format |
Must share this. Have the following:
Xbox V1.6
Xenium pre OS2
EVOX m8 bios
EVO-X dash 3935
Upgrade to a 40G HD using the Xenium OS
Unable to run Rainbow six 3. Refused to move on from the front title page. The only thing I did was just using Boxplorer and move all the files (only got 2 .bin files) from E:\CACHE to F:\. And I would proceed the game and finished all the Training sessions. After exit the game, found the 2 files were regenerated into the E:\CACHE. Will feedback if more problem encounter.
Cheers!
Post by: Slider123 on September 30, 2004, 06:38:00 PM
If the other way doesn't work, I'm going to try the evox reformat method. First, I have a couple questions. 1)How can I load evox on when I have Avalaunch already installed? 2)Can evox use DHCP as a connection? Or do I have to configure the ip manually using notepad. Thanks in adavance.
Chris
Post by: Gumba on September 30, 2004, 08:51:00 PM
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Post by: VampireHunter on October 12, 2004, 05:09:00 PM
Post by: AF92 on October 25, 2004, 02:14:00 AM
Post by: hennifer on October 26, 2004, 10:09:00 AM
When I go home from work this is what I'm going to try; Hopefully it will help me (my problem is that I cannot see my FTP'd files on F from my xbox, but I can from my PC, and while on my PC i cannot see the files I create while on my xbox on F (through UnleashX's text editor)
Running Xenium ICE running XOS 2.0.1 on a 1.3XBOX with a SEAGATE 200GB
Upgrade Xenium ICE to XOS 2.0.2
Flash 4981.06_256k.bin - Configured for Partition 6 to take rest of drive
Install EVOX Dash onto C:\
Run EVOX from C:\
Connect VIA FTP and format drive E:, F:
Transfer back some vitals for E: (I have no valuable data on F so I'd like to get it working and don't care about the data, i can always replicate it)
Does this look like a working fix then?
Or any idea as to why my /F/ is acting so strangely? I originally prepared the drive using XOS2.0.1's Wizard. Should I after I upgrade my XENIUM ICE (STEP ONE) use the wizard again? Or forget the wizard and use EVOX only?
SIIIIGH! SO close. Just can't get F working, even after fresh formats.
Post by: mdgallant on November 02, 2004, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: hennifer on November 03, 2004, 05:58:00 AM
HAVE A GREAT DAY!
Post by: magickcache on November 27, 2004, 08:42:00 AM
Xbox V. 1.0
Xenium Ice
XOS v. 2.0.1
Xecuter2 4983.06 BIOS
Evolution X 3935 Dash
200 GB Western Digital HDD
Post by: Elf_Sniper on December 09, 2004, 07:25:00 PM
Just wondering sry if its a dumb question
Post by: scotty1 on February 09, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
Post by: Gumba on February 09, 2005, 06:13:00 PM
Post by: Gumba on March 15, 2005, 06:28:00 PM
QUOTE(olafwagner @ Mar 15 2005, 12:45 PM)
Hi Guys.
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Title: Can't Play Retail Games
Post by: welfareloser on August 26, 2005, 01:24:00 PM
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Title: Can't Play Retail Games
Post by: pixelphreak on October 23, 2005, 06:23:00 AM
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I have a modded PAL 1.6 to NTSC using HDTV setup
Xenium SP.ICE soldered properly.
a maxtor 80GB HDD
ive had this problem for sometime and have been trying to fix it but just cant, nothing seems to work at all.
i cannot Load 007 Everything or Nothing, certain stages freeze when they try to load i tried almost every i found on the net heres a list.
tried copied game, retail game, game on HDD
tried disabling IGR and all that other crap that comes with unleashX that i dont even use anymore.
tried clearing all cache folders
tried formating and reinstalling all dashes,
tried with Retail HD
tried updating bios from M8 to X2, a couple X2's
disabled HDTV
the only thing i havent tried is smashing the crap out of this box
tried starting game again without gamesaves retorerd and still managed to freeze at once stage.
prince of persia was slow and freezing but i had realised that it wouldnt work properly on 480p and had to disable hdtv support to play it (PAL version of POP)
ive had some hiccups with other games, the suffering ties that bind doesnt even load at all just freezes, but mainly 007 is the problem i cannot get this freaking thing to work AT all
all methods on this thread have not worked.
im wondering if xenium is crap and i need a new chip?!!
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Title: Can't Play Retail Games
Post by: Strato Cast on October 28, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
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Title: Can't Play Retail Games
Post by: Rabid1 on October 28, 2005, 09:00:00 PM
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pixelphreak,
unless you have a problem with your install, the chip has nothing to do with how games play. I would start by backing up and re-doing your HD completely. Even take the HD out, wipe it then test it in a PC before you restore it.
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Title: Can't Play Retail Games
Post by: appleguru on May 07, 2006, 06:42:00 PM
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I apologize for bumping an old topic, but after searching for hours on this site for the solution, this thread worked for me.
I figured since it was a PITA (or I used bad search terms, heh) for me to find out what was causing this, I'd bump something in hopes of being able to help someone else.
Indeed, it's still a relevant issue. That being the case, just made a sticky for it:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=511116
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Title: Can't Play Retail Games
Post by: stilts07 on August 29, 2006, 04:57:00 PM
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Thanks Man, I really appreciate giving me the info on clearing out my cache on my xbox surely did fix the problem.
Post by: welfareloser on August 26, 2005, 01:24:00 PM
Post by: pixelphreak on October 23, 2005, 06:23:00 AM
Xenium SP.ICE soldered properly.
a maxtor 80GB HDD
ive had this problem for sometime and have been trying to fix it but just cant, nothing seems to work at all.
i cannot Load 007 Everything or Nothing, certain stages freeze when they try to load i tried almost every i found on the net heres a list.
tried copied game, retail game, game on HDD
tried disabling IGR and all that other crap that comes with unleashX that i dont even use anymore.
tried clearing all cache folders
tried formating and reinstalling all dashes,
tried with Retail HD
tried updating bios from M8 to X2, a couple X2's
disabled HDTV
the only thing i havent tried is smashing the crap out of this box
tried starting game again without gamesaves retorerd and still managed to freeze at once stage.
prince of persia was slow and freezing but i had realised that it wouldnt work properly on 480p and had to disable hdtv support to play it (PAL version of POP)
ive had some hiccups with other games, the suffering ties that bind doesnt even load at all just freezes, but mainly 007 is the problem i cannot get this freaking thing to work AT all
all methods on this thread have not worked.
im wondering if xenium is crap and i need a new chip?!!
Post by: Strato Cast on October 28, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
Post by: Rabid1 on October 28, 2005, 09:00:00 PM
unless you have a problem with your install, the chip has nothing to do with how games play. I would start by backing up and re-doing your HD completely. Even take the HD out, wipe it then test it in a PC before you restore it.
Post by: appleguru on May 07, 2006, 06:42:00 PM
QUOTE(Midkn1ght @ May 7 2006, 03:34 AM) 
I apologize for bumping an old topic, but after searching for hours on this site for the solution, this thread worked for me.
I figured since it was a PITA (or I used bad search terms, heh) for me to find out what was causing this, I'd bump something in hopes of being able to help someone else.
Indeed, it's still a relevant issue. That being the case, just made a sticky for it:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=511116
Post by: stilts07 on August 29, 2006, 04:57:00 PM