Post by: Master-Chief on July 09, 2004, 01:06:00 PM
My friends had a 1.6 Xbox and I told them to get a Xenium, so they did. I have a Xenium installed pin header method so I put his Xenium in my Xbox and flashed OS2 on his chip. Then I had some fragging issues. I rechecked all my points and resoldered the pin headers and it worked! Booted up OS2 and flashed EvoX M8_16. Installed UnleashX and all apps and now my friends are happy campers. By the way, I soldered LFRAME to Ground on the motherboard like everyone said. I didn't even bother to solder it to d0 on chip.
And the Xenium install wasn't too hard. NOT EVEN CLOSE to a PS2 mod-chip install (I never did one before, but I have seen someone do it)!
Post by: Bwsk8 on July 09, 2004, 01:37:00 PM
Post by: Master-Chief on July 09, 2004, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: bucko on July 09, 2004, 02:10:00 PM
Post by: xboxhackcrack on July 09, 2004, 05:06:00 PM
Post by: Master-Chief on July 10, 2004, 04:06:00 AM
What you do is solder one end of the wire to the d0 to the point specified on the 1.6 diagrams and solder the other end of it to ground on the motherboard (the metal donut around screw holes). The diagrams said solder the d0 on the motherboard to the d0 on the chip, but others said that it fragged the Xbox.
LFRAME = d0 (basically)
Post by: silentsnake on July 10, 2004, 08:59:00 AM
Post by: TSOPrano on July 10, 2004, 09:32:00 AM
Cheapmod on a 1.3...prplehz: Evox gives you a 1MB file, if im not mistaken, but I don't think that really does extract one... I got mine from the usual place we don't talk about.
I'll crack open the box and take some pics.
Post by: TSOPrano on July 10, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
PDF format click here
Post by: MicroChip on July 10, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
Thanks!
MC
Post by: brahm2 on July 10, 2004, 02:36:00 PM
Post by: silentsnake on July 10, 2004, 02:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (brahm2 @ Jul 10 2004, 11:36 PM) |
| hey TSOPrano, nice pics.. gives me a better idea of what I'm in for when someone finally shows up at my house with a 1.6! |
lol I am thinking the same thing.
Post by: Master-Chief on July 11, 2004, 07:59:00 AM
Nice pics TSOPrano... I didn't know the SmartXX Diagrams worked for the Xenium!
Post by: xboxhackcrack on July 11, 2004, 12:46:00 PM
Post by: Ace25 on July 11, 2004, 02:27:00 PM
Followed the Xodus 1.6 Install Pic for bottom side and top side D0. That got the frag issue obviously.
Then, the only other thing I did was to look at the SmartXX picture for their D0 (LFrame) and soldered a wire from that point on the bottom to the ground pad on the bottom next to the LPC points. I didnt run the wire through the hole to the topside like the pics show. After that the 1.6 booted just fine.. now I have the drive size issue (not seeing over 137G)
Post by: MadCraiZ on July 11, 2004, 04:43:00 PM
Post by: xboxhackcrack on July 11, 2004, 04:52:00 PM
So after the Xenium tut didnt help you out, you just did it the way the pics show in this post? (except you soldered the bottom part of the donut ground to the Lframe)
Post by: Song on July 12, 2004, 04:38:00 AM
Post by: Master-Chief on July 12, 2004, 05:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (Song @ Jul 12 2004, 09:38 AM) |
| Okie Guy, Just want to clear something up. If you have Xenium ICE LFRAME go to D0 on the Chip. If you have First Xenium Chip LFRAME Go to The ground. this will 100% work for you guy. |
Wait, I thought the ONLY difference between the ICE and the regular Xenium is the color. Why does the d0 have to be soldered in different places? They are the exact same chip.
Post by: Lubaxe on July 12, 2004, 07:37:00 AM
Hope This helps.
Post by: Swimming_Bird on July 12, 2004, 11:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (brahm2 @ Jul 10 2004, 11:36 PM) |
| hey TSOPrano, nice pics.. gives me a better idea of what I'm in for when someone finally shows up at my house with a 1.6! |
Do you live in the washington, dc area?
Post by: bmoney03 on July 12, 2004, 12:02:00 PM
Post by: Swimming_Bird on July 12, 2004, 12:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (glint3k @ Jul 12 2004, 09:32 PM) |
| Dear Master-Chief. I am a newbie on modding a xbox. You said, "Flash MS BIOS in one of those banks to play on Xbox Live". How Do I extract the MS BIOS(assume that's referring to Xbox Original Bios that came with box) from Xbox? Or I should download from Xbins.org's FTP site and flash it? Thanks. BTW, I think I have v1.6. mfg date is either 5-11-2004 or 5-25-2004. I'm at work, i do not have box with me at this moment.  |
Watch that movie review that was made on the home page.
Post by: TSOPrano on July 12, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
For all you who can't figure out why I lead the LFRAME from bottom through the hole and grounded on topside, I did this because I had my LFRAME soldered to the d0 on the chip like specified with my motherboard screwed in. When I was told to ground it I ripped it off and screwed it in, easier than taking out board.
Post by: MadCraiZ on July 12, 2004, 01:10:00 PM
Post by: MadCraiZ on July 12, 2004, 03:20:00 PM
Looks like I may have damaged one of the leads (LAD2 test point).
Thank god I know some microsolderers.
Post by: Gumba on July 13, 2004, 06:18:00 AM
| QUOTE (Song @ Jul 13 2004, 12:11 PM) |
| Well i do have both version of Xenium Chip I don't know what wrong with the Normal Xenium Chip if you don't used LFRAME to The Ground you will got FRAG, It's 100% not boot if you put it on D0. For Xenium ICE it's Work fine for LFRAME to the D0. If you don't belive me try to test on both Version. I am sure there is something abit different to Normal Xenium and Xenium ICE Chip. |
The change could also be an XOS2beta vs XOS2pre issue too
Post by: Master-Chief on July 13, 2004, 07:03:00 AM
Post by: Master-Chief on July 13, 2004, 07:38:00 AM
Post by: Master-Chief on July 13, 2004, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: MicroChip on July 13, 2004, 05:31:00 PM
Wierd thing is I popped my usb pendrive in, loaded M8-1.6, set autoboot to that, and when I press the On button, it goes to that bios in color. When I press eject to turn on, I get Xenium OS2 in black and white.
any ideas?
MC
Post by: bmoney03 on July 13, 2004, 06:59:00 PM
Post by: Ace25 on July 13, 2004, 07:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (bmoney03 @ Jul 13 2004, 06:59 PM) |
| Well back to my orig ques: Do i need to install the pin headers? If not then what wire to i install on the chip? Thanks |
yes, install the pin header and make sure to remove the one pin out of it. It pulls out easily with a pair of pliers.
Post by: counter terrorist dan on July 13, 2004, 08:23:00 PM
Are there any clear, 100% been tested, positive working and informative manuals or tutorials (preferably really forgiving with knowledge barriers and explaining what some of the shit is?) on installing Xenium Ice on a v1.6?
Post by: Master-Chief on July 14, 2004, 05:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (counter terrorist dan @ Jul 14 2004, 01:23 AM) |
| so.. after all this confusion, one question: Are there any clear, 100% been tested, positive working and informative manuals or tutorials (preferably really forgiving with knowledge barriers and explaining what some of the shit is?) on installing Xenium Ice on a v1.6? |
Follow the OZXodus Tutorial on installing a Xenium on a 1.6. Follow it JUST like it says. Don't worry about what we are saying here because some of it is about the blue Xenium chip and you don't have that. It seems that the ICE version and the regular blue Xenium have a significant difference other than just the color.
Post by: Master-Chief on July 14, 2004, 09:29:00 PM
Post by: dzv on July 15, 2004, 01:18:00 AM
If you're gonna go through the hassle of the LPC rebuild, then there's really no good reason to use the solderless adaptor.
Post by: netrave on July 15, 2004, 09:28:00 AM
now i know i have to solder the D0 to the chip on my ICE and 1.6...
what im not understanding, is there 2 spots that i can get the D0? one from the TOP and one from the BOTTOM??
cause it seems that the BOTTOM of the board is MUCH easy to see and not mess up then the top?
can i just get the D0 from the bottom and run it thru a hole and solder to the chip?
Post by: netrave on July 15, 2004, 09:41:00 AM
cause the Xenium diagram shows to get the D0 from the top of the motherboard to the chip... but i dont wanna do it that way...
Post by: MicroChip on July 15, 2004, 09:53:00 AM
| QUOTE (netrave @ Jul 15 2004, 06:41 PM) |
| i mean the LFRAME on the bottom of the board using the SMARTXX diagram to the D0 on the chip? cause the Xenium diagram shows to get the D0 from the top of the motherboard to the chip... but i dont wanna do it that way... |
I don't know if that will work. Do the LPC rebuild on the bottom of the board like in the Xenium ICE 1.6 install manual, and use the LFRAME on the top as in that same manual. The LFRAME on top was easy, much easier than the LPC rebuild. The included wire (blue and black with a plug) makes it easy. Stick the blue wire in the d0, warm it up with your soldering iron, it's already tinned and will just stick. Then solder the black one to the screw-hole next to the ICE, and plug the end in to the ICE.
FYI, the LPC rebuild would be easy too if I had some Kynar 30awg precut and tinned, I think modchip sellers should include that or charge like $5 for it. I used IDE wire and it was a bit trickier...
MC
Post by: Ace25 on July 15, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
There still seem to be questions about the install.. so.. let me lay out the Normal Xenium questions that I have (and will answer later on tonight).
Normal Xenium:
1. Do you need to install the top side D0 like the Ice version? (I believe "No")
2. If you use the plug-in D0/Ground wire that comes with the chip do you still need to ground the LFrame since your grounding the D0 point to ground on top? And will that give you TSOP capability?
Those are questions I can and will answer myself tonight when I get home.
Xenium Ice:
Ummm, really can't think of any Ice questions, I think they have been covered. The only thing "extra" that needs to be done on the Ice chips is to solder the LFrame point to the D0 point on the chip instead of grounding it (running the wire through an open LPC hole). Other than that, just follow the Xodus instructions completely.
Post by: netrave on July 15, 2004, 12:31:00 PM
now i see that there is 2 pieces where i dont knwo what to do with them...
there is a USB port, where do i wire that into???
is there a diagram for this as well???
and there is a blue and black wire that plug into the chip... where do these go!?? and last question..
there looks like an adapter for hdtv or something... can i leave this piece off, or do i have to plug it in? and if so, does it matter which way i put it in?
Post by: netrave on July 15, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
Post by: Ace25 on July 15, 2004, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: appleguru on July 15, 2004, 01:12:00 PM
('Course, I had some nice Kynar wire I got at radio shack for $3 (50ft, wirewrapping wire or w/e).As for the differences in Blue/ICE Xeniums, I'm one to believe it's all software (XOS2 beta vs XOS2 pre-release). AFAICT the Hardware is exactly the same (Of course, until Xenium releases XOS2 for download or someone manages to make/distribute a .bin for the OS from an ICE, we'llnever know...)
Post by: appleguru on July 15, 2004, 01:40:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| As for the top LFRAME solder jobby, I was nervous about soldering something that small when it was so close to other leads. |
And you weren't nervous rebuilding LPC?
As for the USB adaptor... It wasn't easy to put in at all
But seeing as it doesn't stick out that far and is in the4th controller port and I only have 2 controllers, I guess I'll just leave it in for now
Post by: TSOPrano on July 15, 2004, 02:25:00 PM
Post by: netrave on July 15, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
Post by: dzv on July 15, 2004, 10:42:00 PM
| QUOTE (TSOPrano @ Jul 16 2004, 09:25 AM) |
| Has anyone checked to see if on their original blue Xenium's if the d0 pad has a trace that connects up with pin 4 on the LPC? |
Yes, they all do. That's how they get D0 from the solderless adaptor.
Post by: ti85man on July 16, 2004, 07:52:00 AM
Post by: counter terrorist dan on July 16, 2004, 10:25:00 AM
Post by: Master-Chief on July 16, 2004, 10:28:00 AM
| QUOTE (counter terrorist dan @ Jul 16 2004, 03:25 PM) |
| How did you get evo-x on your box? do you have to download it to a pen drive? or only on a cd-rw? |
Xenium OS2 has support for FTP. So you just FTP over the EvoX files on to your Xbox via the Xenium OS's FTP.
Post by: maiser on July 16, 2004, 12:46:00 PM
But i dont have the same modchips as you guys, i have executer v2.3B PRO. Please read here.
Post by: TSOPrano on July 16, 2004, 03:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (maiser @ Jul 16 2004, 09:46 PM) |
| I have read thorough all of the posts in this thread, and im still having problem with booting my XBOX v1.6 :\ But i dont have the same modchips as you guys, i have executer v2.3B PRO. Please read here. |
even though your chip isnt ozxodus how hard is it? solder a few wires to rebuild lpc and voila. im sure you know how to flash a bios on your chip by now. "read thorough all of the posts in this thread" harder. i think my picture diagrams were pretty self explanatory, even the smartxx and ozxodus diagrams were self explanitory. mine just cleared up anything that people were unsure of, i hope.
Post by: Sloth on July 16, 2004, 03:57:00 PM
Post by: counter terrorist dan on July 16, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
how can i open it?
Post by: counter terrorist dan on July 16, 2004, 04:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (Master-Chief @ Jul 16 2004, 07:28 PM) |
| Xenium OS2 has support for FTP. So you just FTP over the EvoX files on to your Xbox via the Xenium OS's FTP. |
how do you 'ftp' the files? If you can't tell, clueless to this stuff but i have one on the way. might be a dangerous combination
Post by: maiser on July 16, 2004, 04:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (TSOPrano @ Jul 17 2004, 12:13 AM) |
| even though your chip isnt ozxodus how hard is it? solder a few wires to rebuild lpc and voila. im sure you know how to flash a bios on your chip by now. "read thorough all of the posts in this thread" harder. i think my picture diagrams were pretty self explanatory, even the smartxx and ozxodus diagrams were self explanitory. mine just cleared up anything that people were unsure of, i hope. |
TSOPrano: You have both overrated me and underestimated me at once. Ive tried every LPC mod ive found yet on this and other forums with xbox mod tutorials etc. Ive tried your version, that version team xecuter with the D0 connection at the right spot(according to Xenium tutorial i think, cant remember, cause ive been thorough like 10 different tutorials this day), and it doesnt stop here, have tried different "combinations" and mixed and trixed, but no luck. At least im not worried about the soldering, since its kind of my work, and all off my equipments are adjusted to this kind of work.
But no, i have no idea how to flash bios yet, havent come to that part yet. First thing i need to is make this modchip work, and i it should be possible to make the executer 2.3B pro work as well, with the XBOX v1.6. One think though, i need to know, is how do i know my mod is succesfull, when i dont have any bios flashed? The system should boot normally when i set the external device on my xecuter to "off" on the switch, right?
Post by: Sloth on July 16, 2004, 10:25:00 PM
Post by: counter terrorist dan on July 16, 2004, 10:31:00 PM
Post by: ti85man on July 17, 2004, 06:34:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| I can't read the ozXodus 1.6 install manual on their website, don't hav ea clue why but i've tried it on Two computers, niether reads it? i think it's a pdf or some shit how can i open it? |
adobe acrobat reader www.adobe.com
| QUOTE |
| how do you 'ftp' the files? If you can't tell, clueless to this stuff but i have one on the way. might be a dangerous combination |
get the chip working. hook up the xbox on the network (this will vary with what you use, there are tuts)in the OS2 set the network settings. Use an FTP client on your computer and connect to the xbox. Transfer files... try google on how FTP works if you've never FTP'd to anything before..
| QUOTE |
| i need to know, is how do i know my mod is succesfull, when i dont have any bios flashed? The system should boot normally when i set the external device on my xecuter to "off" on the switch, right? |
yes that is correct, and I'm not totally sure, but cromwell will probably load with the modchip on/enabled, but you won't see anything on the screen. the DVD drive would eject. This is if the chip is new and came pre-flashed with cromwell.
| QUOTE |
| Does somebody have or know of a guide with indepth text and pictures to guide someone along the installation of a Xenium ice with the M8 bios and EvolutionX dashboard on a 1.6v mobo.Im a noob to this kinda stuff and would appreciate any kind of help. |
to install the chip, follow OzXodus's 1.6 install guide to rebuild the LPC and know where D0/LFRAME is located. Look at the regular install guide to see how the pin header is actually put in the board and how the chip is orientated. Then check out their OS2 Manual to see how to operate the chip once installed. If you want to install evox afterward, use the tuts already available on the site. instead of using a boot disc with an FTP server on it, just fire up the chip as OS2 has a built in FTP server.
** I am by no means an expert, but I have modded quite a few xboxs... so what I'm saying is don't hold me responsible...
**
Post by: cap269 on July 17, 2004, 09:40:00 AM
| QUOTE (Sloth @ Jul 16 2004, 07:57 PM) |
| After reading the Xenium 1.6 instruction manual supplied by Ozxodus, I realized that it doesnt show a picture as where to place the Xenium Ice chip on the motherboard.I'm a noob to this kinda stuff so will someone point it out. Please |
The Xenium mounts atop the pinheader. The black 12-hole plug on the component side of the chip mates with the pinheader. The other side of the chip then becomes the top.
When mounting the Xenium (ICE or blue) on the pinheader (or solderless adaptor) the X in the word Xenium silkscreened on the chip should be toward the back of the case.
Post by: pinkeye00 on July 22, 2004, 01:47:00 AM
Pictures are as follows:
Poor soder job, but came back to retouch as I went forward - n00b experience showing here.
All wires sodered
LFRAME wire connected to board (underneath)
LFRAME wire through board hole
D0 connected to LFRAME w/ large wire for manipulation
First Boot!!! WOOOO!
Post by: MadCraiZ on July 22, 2004, 08:22:00 PM
Post by: TSOPrano on July 24, 2004, 02:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (taz911xl @ Jul 24 2004, 09:10 AM) |
| I've tried both LPC rebuilds (from the OzXdus Guide and the one in this forum), and I've tried all the different D0 placements, I even resodered the pinheaders to make sure the connection was good, i've been working on this for hours. All I get is the MS BIOS and dash. The led on the XENIUM ICE is on (red). WHAT DO I DO??? XBOX v1.6 Xenium ICE (NOT WORKING) |
are you Fudamak from IRC. sounds like the same situation...
Post by: Master-Chief on July 24, 2004, 08:35:00 AM
| QUOTE (TSOPrano @ Jul 24 2004, 06:08 AM) |
| are you Fudamak from IRC. sounds like the same situation... |
LOL!, you took that quote in your signature from me, but I took it from someone else!
Post by: programmer79 on July 24, 2004, 01:13:00 PM
I found the following guide http://www.midsouthm...es/iceguide.pdf
Follow the instructions for 1.6 and you will be up and running in no time.
A tip to everyone - I wanted to get my chip installed so bad that I used a soldering iron that I already had (higher wattage than I should have used) and extra wire that I also had laying around and I did a very poor job of installing the chip (It didn't work and I pulled off one of the necessary traces that the chip needs to be soldered to). I left it alone for the night and went to Radio Shack the next day and picked up a 15 watt soldering iron and 30 gauge wire. I was able fix the trace and get the chip installed and working. BE SURE TO USE THE PROPER TOOLS - Much Much Easier to do the install.
Good Luck and props to cap269 for the excellent guide!
Post by: Gumba on July 26, 2004, 08:58:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=1641972
Post by: crazysteve on August 12, 2004, 09:03:00 AM
Post by: counter terrorist dan on August 12, 2004, 10:17:00 AM
Here's the installation underneath:
Took about a half hour, because i went back and quadruple checked everything over and over again, but the soldering wasn't too difficult. A clean tip and thin solder made it extremely easy.