Post by: marksu on May 24, 2004, 09:43:00 AM
This is just a wish to start a flame war there fore you seem to wish to get banned and thread closed.
Post by: marksu on May 24, 2004, 09:50:00 AM
Post by: xpro on May 24, 2004, 10:33:00 AM
well said
Post by: naps on May 24, 2004, 10:40:00 AM
Post by: angelfly on May 24, 2004, 10:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (naps @ May 24 2004, 06:40 PM) |
| Ok you say its more advanced. I'd agree with you in saying it is more advanced because it's newer, but the extra memory(1mb more?), that makes it cost 20% more than an x2? Humor me, hardware isn't that expensive. The on-board OS is kind of useless for an average user like myself. |
Well simply put if the OS is useless to you and you don't like that cost then why did you buy a Xenium instead of an X2?
Post by: tiger on May 24, 2004, 11:06:00 AM
why r u here?
u want to buy a mini (x2) when you can get a Ferrari (Xenium) well thats your choice.
LOL
Post by: Master-Chief on May 24, 2004, 11:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (naps @ May 24 2004, 01:39 PM) |
| A. More expensive than x2 B. Hassle with updating v1.1 Bios, gotta make the CD, then make sure the xbox will read the CD/DVD. So I ended up making 2 discs, one CD, and one DVD. Modding different xboxes will almost require this step. C. When you hit eject, loads the Xenium OS. When moddin for noobie friends, they can do some damage when accessing this screen. My main gripe is hitting the eject button loading a DVD/Xbox game, then having to hit a button to load Original bios when any other dashobard will autoload the DvD/game. Maybe I'm so used to doing X2's. But my Xenium installation experience was a bad one. It took way too long, too many steps. For a guy just wanting to get a modded xbox, I would recommend an x2 over a Xenium. |
I know another thing you don't like about the Xenium:
D) The spelling, I always spell it Xenim like in the topic!
Post by: ViRAL on May 24, 2004, 12:29:00 PM
Post by: naps on May 24, 2004, 12:45:00 PM
From my experience, I could not get the HDD format to work in the XOS. I used Slayers and all was fine, I even went old school and did Raw FTP commands and that worked fine. This has and will be a thread based on my experiences with 5 xenium installs. That's such a minuscule amount of installs, I agree. But, based on my installs with an x2 compared to the xenium. I will not be purchasing anymore Xenium chips. Call it bad luck, call it bad modding skills. It's my opinion, nothing less.
Post by: brahm2 on May 24, 2004, 01:33:00 PM
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on May 24, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
my only complaint is that the uodates take too long...
marksu is right.. this WILL turn into a flamefest....
i agree with angelfly...
Post by: moobar on May 24, 2004, 03:31:00 PM
Though I love my Xenium and plan to stay this path.
IMO, when then Xeniums start to ship from the reseller with XOS 2.0 is when initial setup will be pain free.
Post by: moobar on May 24, 2004, 03:36:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| ...do you realise you can update the OS from E:\ without needing... |
True, but you still need to get it to the E:\ drive somehow, Im assuming your implying you've already done your initial setup which of course would have been done by E:\ in the first place.
Just trying to clear things up.
We'll all be in a happier place once v2.0 gets here.
Post by: naps on May 24, 2004, 04:29:00 PM
I can certainly be a problem, sorry if this post or anything I've said offended you. Yes, I do realize and have succesfully loaded Bios.bin through FTP. But, by you telling me to read through manuals is kind of belittling my intelligence. Lets not go there. Again, I apologize if I have offended you sir.
I kind of chuckled when you said, "reading the manuals does make things a lot easier when it comes to installations, especially something advanced like the Xenium."
Post by: shmokes on May 24, 2004, 10:43:00 PM
| QUOTE (moobar @ May 25 2004, 12:31 AM) |
| The cd/dvd creation is a pain. One for os update another for Bios and another for boot disc dashboard. But Id have to guess that thats about the same with any modchip currently out... |
Heh....think again. I've got a SmartXX. I set it up a week ago and have Avalaunch, DVD2Xbox, XBMC, three emulators with full sets of roms and about 30 Xbox games sitting on the hard drive.
I have never burned a single disc (even though I'm lucky enough to have a Samsung drive).
Here's a step by step of a SmartXX install.
1- Install the chip
2- Boot up Xbox
3- Turn on DHCP or assign a static address within the SmartXX OS
4- Flash newest OS release and a bios to your chip through Internet Explorer (just plug your xbox's IP address into the address bar).
5- Flash FTP client to chip.
6- Back up your C: and E: drives to your PC with the FTP Client
7- If you put in a bigger hard drive use the utilities built into the SmartXX OS to set it up
8- You're set! FTP a dashboard over. FTP your games over. You've got full control!
You can't imagine how fast and easy all this is until you've used it.
I have to agree, Xenium needs to get this stuff implemented. They ought to spend a little less time on grandiose announcements of features that are supposedly just around the corner and get that shit done. Another advantage of the SmartXX is the frequency with which they release updates. And when they release it we get like a two-line announcement like (Here's the new release. 1.6 is now supported). With Xenium, Instead, we tend to get a five-paragraph announcement going on and on about how amazing 1.6 support is going to be when it is released, which is going to be "very" soon.
Post by: Josh Adams on May 24, 2004, 11:25:00 PM
Post by: CrayZEE on May 25, 2004, 10:34:00 AM
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on May 25, 2004, 11:02:00 AM
doh!
Post by: ex-box on May 25, 2004, 12:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (naps @ May 24 2004, 06:39 PM) |
| A. More expensive than x2 B. Hassle with updating v1.1 Bios, gotta make the CD, then make sure the xbox will read the CD/DVD. So I ended up making 2 discs, one CD, and one DVD. Modding different xboxes will almost require this step. C. When you hit eject, loads the Xenium OS. When moddin for noobie friends, they can do some damage when accessing this screen. My main gripe is hitting the eject button loading a DVD/Xbox game, then having to hit a button to load Original bios when any other dashobard will autoload the DvD/game. Maybe I'm so used to doing X2's. But my Xenium installation experience was a bad one. It took way too long, too many steps. For a guy just wanting to get a modded xbox, I would recommend an x2 over a Xenium. |
Heh, My 2 cents
A. yup, thas a given. it has been covered. your paying for all the OS features (that we dont have yet)
B. I never had a problem with this. I have 1 evox disk i made on re-writable a long long time ago (in a galaxy far far away...) since it was rewiteable I just added the new OS to it so 1 it could be seen on the "d" drive and the dick copies it to the "e" drive on set up. (it also sets up the ftp server if i rather do it that way.)
Remebber you can build your xbox on the 1.0 OS and update the OS later, after your base drive is done. ther is no need for multiple disks. also when 2.0 comes out. you should be able to format the drive, and then FTP from the chip itself. (only problem is chips ship with 1.0 on them. right now smartxx is winning this part. this will change soon.)
Also if you mod so many xboxes. do what I do, i have a semi-apart xbox that i use for builds just sitting there. i can just pop my chip on the header in it, then HD and set it up in seconds. i know my drive reads my boot disk, it is next to my PC, and my PC has a tv-in on it so i can see the xbox booting for troubleshooting. i think i picked that xbox up on ebay for $30 with no HD or DVD on it. since then i dropped a spare sammy in it. i used to have a PC DVD drive in it and used a UDF burned cd-rw. because i use a headerpin (i have a plug on my D0 using the spare header pin you pull out.) i can set up any chip i want on it x2/smartxx /xenium /chameleon /x3 / cheapmod ETC. The only chips i cant do this way is the x2plus and matrix, for those, i have programers.
you can always use its factory drive on it (or from another xbox after you unlock it. as i did, dont we all have 3+ laying around?) to test your boot disk images or pre-build ftp images. it s also nice for testing your ini files for your dashboards and XBMP/XBMC alll with no fear of messing up your main xbox if somthing goes wrong with it.
Sorry if i got long winded, but to many problems can happen if you build a lot of boxes using the 1 at a time method and you can waste a lot of time troubleshooting things. if you know your chip is flashed and boots ahead of time and your HD has a good OS/image on it. the only problem on your NEW xbox is the solder job to worry about. just pop in your chip and HD, and lock the drive at that point. you should make back that $30 in your first mod job and save hours of time. AND if your having a lan party, you can always use the added xbox
I addition, Since i also have my main xbox with a 250 gig HD in it. i can use FXP or the killerfast xbox to xbox file transfer in AVAlaunch to mirror my F: drive in a few min. did you know you can fill a 120 gig drive with random crap in about 2 hours with AVAlaunch on 2 xboxes? there is the biggest time saver. i just reformated my lanparty xbox (an SE with 120gig drive) it was done almost completely unattended in the time i watched the 2 towers with my GF. no more re-ripping My originals eachtime i want a clean xbox.
C: yeah i can that issue. but after owning Xboxs since release i have always hit power intead of eject. (creature of habbit i guess)
you can: 1 turnoff quickboot and just set a 1 second boot time , or 2 do both, i set quickboot with 1 second, so if you DO hit eject. in a second it boots anyways and wants your disk.It is almost timed to you hit eject 2 times and it is happy taking your disk to boot to. I find that with a modded xbox. it is rare i have media in my hand i want to boot to anyways. most everything i own is safe on my shelf in thier jewelboxes and i have my backup on the HD.
edit: about 2000 typos (beer is good)