Post by: dietrite on March 22, 2004, 01:53:00 PM
Post by: dietrite on March 22, 2004, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: PoiDog on March 22, 2004, 03:34:00 PM
Post by: Xbox-Gear on March 24, 2004, 12:50:00 PM
Anyone who bought a 'fake' which was advertised as an original Xenium , should protest and recieve a refund as you have been a subject of fraud. Contact the payment processor for more informatio and what you can do to resolve this and for justice to be served.
The idea of buying a clone may seem tempting , but why if the clones are good quality or even better then the original do resellers feel the need to not state this with pride , instead they prefer to decieve the general public.
How can www.teamxecuter.com place a site such as www.modchip.ca in their selected few respected where to buy links
. I sincerly hope no Xecuter fakes are being sold either! Always checkout your store before purchasing , alot are here to make a quick buck as fast as possible and will cut corners and overlook your consumer rights as a result!
Post by: swolsten on March 24, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
www.modchip.ca sell the clones for $55.17
www.xbox-gear.com sell the Offical chips for 58.95 USD
(prices correct at time of post)
I would rather pay the extra $3.78 and give some hard earned profit to the guys that had all the long nights doing all the development and testing.
How can Xecuter have modchip.ca in there where to buy list of selected retailers is beyond me, they should support the competition as it makes the scene better for everyone
What would people say if i downloaded the Xecuter2 bios, replaced the XECUTER2 text and added my own and took the credit for it, there would be an uproar.
Come one people, give the credit to the designers and not the theif that stole their work.
Post by: Corspegrinder99 on March 24, 2004, 06:35:00 PM
i got my Xenium from modchipman. great service and fast shipping.
will Xbox-Gear be selling Xecuter 3s? if so that will be were i will get mine when it comes.
Post by: dava_bran on March 24, 2004, 07:03:00 PM
Post by: Xeero on March 24, 2004, 07:07:00 PM
It was probably a combination of modchip.ca customers reporting/complaining to OzXodus and OzXodus noticing that they shipped, say, 10 Xeniums to modchips.ca and modchip.ca reported that they'd sold, say, 20 Xeniums.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 24, 2004, 07:33:00 PM
| QUOTE (KevinB2001 @ Mar 25 2004, 12:02 AM) |
| I think it's somewhat immature of xenium to single them out like that and lay the blame so one-sided like that. |
I'm sure if someone was destroying your name.. or the name of your product.. by knowingly selling fake products in your name.. and abusing the privilege or being an official reseller... you would be upset too.
| QUOTE |
| I have purchased a magic3 and xecuter2.0 from these guys and both products were 100%real and they have always carried official magic and xecuter products, which is why xecuter puts them on their coveted list of respected sites, and i know that they would never have sold any product if they had tested them and found them to be faulty |
Which is nice and dandy for those other products.. but has nothing to do with that what htey did by knowingly purchasing chips from outside the offocial sources. They Knew full well that by going outside.. that they'd be getting fakes. And since you brought up Xecuter.. that makes MODCHIP.CA doubly guilty.. since the XMAS X2 Fake situation.. that made MODCHIP.CA all the more aware that official Chips come from official sources.
They're story holds now water. They had 3 choices if they felt that OZXodus was giving them the run-around...
1 - Deal with OZxodus apporved system and buy Official and deal with OZXodus knowing they were getting the REAL DEAL.
2 - Say fuck OZXodus.. and get their clones cheaper.. sell them as official.. and stick it to OzXodus.
3 - Don't do 1, or 2, and simply not Attempt to seel XENIUm.. real or fake.
ADMIN EDIT: They chose 2. Actions speak louder than words.. and their actions spoke volumes. They sidestepped Xenium.. likley paying a fraction for their defective chips from the cloner.. and what is worse.. since the clone are SO cheap to make.. ripped off the purchasing public as well.
...a few buck less.. for a chip that costs half as much to make. It fraud and robbery on so many levels.
| QUOTE |
| I also know these guys personally and they are extremely dedicated to doing top-notch work which i have personally witnessed, they do high quality work and do it fast, they have good customer support |
Well.. as long as you are giving us your UNBIASED opinion....
| QUOTE |
| should that all be ruined by one mistake, odds are they didn't even know they were buying clones. |
Odds are??? You buy officiall.. or you don't. Simple. If nothing else.. they abused the official reseeler priv. It also sounds like you don't know them.. or you are easily confused.
| QUOTE |
| an honest mistake because they had so much trouble getting them direct from xenium ppl |
We heard the same claims in the X2 fakes scandal.. and the results were the same. Shops knew that by not buying from official sources.. they'd be getting unoffical chips. (IE clones/fakes)
The results.. 4 shops had their names destroyed.. 2 for producing them.. the other 2 for selling them.. lying about sources for a period of time.. then eventually coming clean in the hope it would set the issue to rest.
Bottom line.. They sold clones at full price.. when they are cheaper to produce than the real ones.. and commited a hge fraud on the buying public. Someone rips me off.. they don't deserve a second chance. What's worse.. being Canadian.. I have directed Canadians in the past to deal with them.
I assure you.. I will direct not one more single Canadian to deal with that outfit. Feel free to vouch for them. It's clear you aren't Biased.
| QUOTE |
| what i'm trying to say is don't be so quick to judge these guys, these guys have a good reputation and a dedication to quality they worry more about the quality of their work than making a buck, this doesn't discourage me in any way from buying from them, and as in the past i will give all my business to them exclusively because i know they do some of the best work around sorry for the long post but these guys are worth sticking up for so everybody just chill and |
Something comes to mind after reading that crap..
"Fool me once.. shame on you.. fool me twice, shame on me."
I think the public has been fooled once by MODCHIP.CA
Anyone dumb enough to go into those waters again.. deserves to get bitten.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 24, 2004, 07:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (dava_bran @ Mar 25 2004, 12:03 AM) |
| i probably just havent read enough, i know modchip.ca was selling fakes. my question is how did someone find out they were fakes or what did they notice? I personally like my shit real and authentic so i dont support fakes. but if they still worked fine how did they discover the fakes? im just curious. anyways im a xecutor chip fan myself. |
Many FAKES did not work "fine"
Mine didn't.
ADMIN EDIT: Allow me to clarify.. the fakes I received.. did not work as advertised. They were sold as Xeniums. They clearly aren't. They were supposed to Function.. they don't.
FRAUD = FRAUD = FRAUD.
Also.. the fakes stand out when compared to the real deal.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 24, 2004, 08:23:00 PM
Post by: kevhonda on March 24, 2004, 08:25:00 PM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 24, 2004, 09:04:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| After sending large payment for large oder of Xenium chips and promissed the chips and a banner on xenium main website within 2 days nothing happened. They kept our payment and shipped nothing and did not reply to our emails or phone calls. Finally after almost 2 weeks of contacting different team members, they finally shipped the goods, but still no banner as promissed simply because they also sell directly to the public from another site in Canada. We are tired of their immature and childish tactics and were very bemused by their crappy business practices - they were obviously new to running any kind of business |
This is funny.
Whether OzXodus was dicking them around is irrelevant. They made a decision to buy from a clone seller. That was a conscious decision. thier options were as I laid them out before.. either SELL the real Deal.. sell fakes, or sell neither. They CHOSE to sell FAKES.. and sell them on their site as if they were REAL.. at full price. that is FRAUD.
If I want a clone.. I expect a clone price. Considering how cheap the clones are in quality.. and how cheap they are to produce... this is disturbing that they charged customers nearly 60 bucks US for a fake.
Now.. if they were pissed about being dicked around.. why did they not simply post about it? Then.. it would be OzXodus that would look bad. Funny.. how the forums here and elsewhere have no mention of this problem. Hell.. people can always come to me.. and I can check in with people and say.. wassup! With no alleigence to any one chip maker.. I'm probably the most unbiased seller here. All I expect.. is chips at a good price.. and chips that work so that I don't have to listen to IRATE customers.
Instead.. modchip.ca chose to sell fake chips.. taking the low road.. and ignorantly hoped they wouldn't get caught. They assumed their customers were stupid. they also assumed that the chipmakers don't check their customers/official resellerers periodically.
Ignorance and Greed. 2 Powerful things.
| QUOTE |
| they were obviosley new to running any kind of business |
Now modchip.ca shows their ignorance.. and clearly does not know or understand who OzXodus was formerly made up of.
| QUOTE |
| We then bought from another source and they tested 100% the same |
At that point.. they knew EXACTLY what they were doing. It's also clear that they DIDN'T test 100%.
| QUOTE |
| We will give a guarantee that if ANY of the chips you have sold are faulty or do not work as they should - we will give a full refund AND a working chip in return - We are THAT confident - Xenium need to grow up - We wished we had stuck with only Xecuter as they gave you full support and a professional service. |
If you had stuck with only XECUTER.. and not sold clones.. people would not be upset with modchip.ca. Instead.. modchip.ca saw the $$$, said screw Xenium, screw the customers, and went where they could make more $$$.
What is worse.. after reading the site.. they continue the FRAUD.
| QUOTE |
 |
If you look here.. they don't even show a picture of the CHIP they are selling. That is an official Xenium Picture.. of an Official Xenium Chip. Theirs do not look like that. For a picture of what theirs looks like.. check the pin threads.
So.. not only did they commit fraud before.. but now after the facts are out.. they now continue.. but not admitting fault.. by not listing the CHIP as it actually is.. a CLONE or FAKE XENIUM. Then.. they add insult to injury.. by still trying to sell tham at full REAL XENIUM Prices.
It's listed as Still in stock.
So.. for 79.95 CDN.. I get a verified 100% working (haha.. like the ones that don't work now?) CLONE CHIP at the same cost of a REAL CHIP. Is that supposed to be a deal? what a crock.
Exactly why would anyone be dumb enough to fall for that crap?
To top it off.. modchip.ca still show the chip from the main menu as the Chameleon PE.
| QUOTE |
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to modchip.ca. The dumbest Clone seller yet in this scene.Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 24, 2004, 09:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (KevinB2001 @ Mar 25 2004, 01:51 AM) |
people always get too heated when they argue in forums, can't stay civilized, i think part of the problem is they're not drinking canadian beer, if there's one good thing about canada it's the beer, as bad as the dollar is the beer stays good  cheers |
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Post by: Xeero on March 24, 2004, 09:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (HSDEMONZ @ Mar 25 2004, 12:33 AM) |
| They're story holds now water. They had 3 choices if they felt that OZXodus was giving them the run-around... 1 - Deal with OZxodus apporved system and buy Official and deal with OZXodus knowing they were getting the REAL DEAL. 2 - Say fuck OZXodus.. and get their clones cheaper.. sell them as official.. and stick it to OzXodus. 3 - Don't do 1, or 2, and simply not Attempt to seel XENIUm.. real or fake. They chose 3. Actions speak louder than words.. and their actions spoke volumes. They sidestepped Xenium.. likley paying a fraction for their defective chips from the cloner.. and what is worse.. since the clone are SO cheap to make.. ripped off the purchasing public as well. |
Wait...didn't they choose "2"?
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 24, 2004, 09:10:00 PM
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Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 24, 2004, 09:26:00 PM
Post by: kdogg- on March 24, 2004, 10:25:00 PM
I've installed tons of them. I mean TONS.. Anyway when he brought me his Xbox, and chip and I knew it was a fake and suggested he ask for a refund and buy a new one from modchipman.com
Anyway he had me install it anyway and it didnt work.
He emailed them asking for a refund, they ignored his request fo the refund and and they tried to tell him the mods fine and it was due to the installer (me) not knowing what I was doing.. Bullshit... I have installed a few hundred xbox mods and tons of PS2 mods locally for a shop in my area.
I even took the fake and tried it on my xbox test console I use for testing mods which my personal Xenium worked on. Guess what? This peice of shit didnt work.
As I've said before, and I'll say again.. Buy from modchipman.com
They are GREAT.. Anytime I've had any problems (which has only been a couple times out of dozens of orderes) they never question me, they tell me to return the chips in question and give me a replacement.
modchipman.com ALL THE way for me.
Post by: Zirguy on March 25, 2004, 03:29:00 AM
http://modchip.ca/pr...xbox/Xenium.php
Post by: Adolf on March 25, 2004, 03:59:00 AM
Post by: SniperKilla on March 25, 2004, 04:47:00 AM
Post by: SniperKilla on March 25, 2004, 04:51:00 AM
next time dont use such insecure chips, and maybe you wont give the cloners a new chip in a weeks time
this is probally the fastest cloned chip in history of mods, on ps2 or xbox..
Post by: jammi on March 25, 2004, 06:39:00 AM
I havent come across a modchip being sold for along time that wasnt flashed with a hacked bios. I believe that is illegal?
There trying to rip off MS, so what if someone tries to rip them off. I say good on them but this is only my opinion, think what you will.
Regards
Jammi
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"Im really pissed someone packages there crack same way i do and makes more money, damn low life scum"
Post by: Artifex on March 25, 2004, 06:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (HSDEMONZ @ Mar 25 2004, 07:10 AM) |
| you are the only one who read that carefullly enough to catch that.. |
I noticed... but it was like 3am and I was busy coding, so I didn't bother to point it out.
--Arti
Post by: Xbox-Gear on March 25, 2004, 07:40:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| next time dont use such insecure chips, and maybe you wont give the cloners a new chip in a weeks time |
Nice to see a member of the Xbox community being so supportive , Sniperkilla put your money where your mouth is and tell OzXodus how to 'secure' the chip instead of making ambiguous comments.
| QUOTE |
| tough shit, get over it, you got owned by cloners.. i hope the clones outsell your chip 10:1 |
Nice to see you really helping the situation as opposed to finding ways to get cheap kicks from it
, what kind of a person are you , one who takes pride in wrong doings and other's misfortune ? I hope one day your work will get exploited (if you do anything) and then see how funny the whole thing is. Imagine if you were one of the customers promised an original and recieved a fake , non working CLONE , how would you feel ?
Laugh and mock all you like , just really shows your immaturity and lack of feeling to other members of the community. I don't want a slanging match by any means , but I will leave you with this :-
If you have nothing good to say , then don' t say anything at all.
Post by: SniperKilla on March 25, 2004, 08:00:00 AM
anyway, if the clones dont work... maybe the makers should fix it
and maybe sell under a different name.. just so theres no confusion...
also selling clones that high of a price, is a little strange.. they should sell for like $20 if they really want to piss ozxodus off
Post by: ibizagtd on March 25, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
A poem written by me!
I wonder how many fakes were produced!
I wonder how many were shipped!
I wonder how many were installed!
I wonder how many worked!
I wonder how many failed!
I wonder how many will fail!
I wonder ....
some quotes now:
I love em so there they are:
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Ripping off customers!!! posted by evolutionmods on 03-04-2004 18:17
It seems Divineo is ripping off people in the UK and abroad with their over priced chips and also they are very stupid talking about clone chips as all of there magic chips etc are clones!,our advice is don't ever buy any chips from them as they are the biggest rip off site on the net!
You can buy all your chips and accessories much much cheaper from other sites on the net including us!
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Xenium life time warranty! posted by evolutionmods on 03-18-2004 08:47
All our Xenium chips come with a full life time warranty and are fully guaranteed and tested prior to shipping,we are the only company on the net offering this service right now!
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Xenium unique offer! posted by evolutionmods on 03-22-2004 15:34
We are backing up our life time warranty on Xenium chips by throwing down the guantlet to other sellers by offering a 2 for 1 replacement of any Xenium chips purchased from us that fail in the life time you own your console!
Please e-mail for more info of this amazing offer!
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I wonder how many FAKE xeniums will i end up with if i only 1
1x2=2x2=4x2=8x2=16x2=32x2=64x2=128x2=256.........................
Thank GoD I only use ORIGINAL XENIUMS
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 25, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (jammi @ Mar 25 2004, 11:39 AM) |
| I havent come across a modchip being sold for along time that wasnt flashed with a hacked bios. I believe that is illegal? |
Think what you like.. you are entitled to your opinion. However.. currently shipping chips from just about everyone has a LEGAL cromwell bios.
| QUOTE |
| There trying to rip off MS, so what if someone tries to rip them off. I say good on them but this is only my opinion, think what you will. |
Actually.. making the chip.. and shipping it with CROMWELL rips no one off. What you do with it.. determines if MS gets "ripped off" or not.
Responsibility for ripping off MS falls squarely on the shoulders of the user. With the long ago introduction of Cromwell BIOS.. what all the chipmakers are doing.. is simply making a peice of hardware.
What you do with that hardware. and how YOU alter it via flashing is your business. But it also put the responsibility on the consumers shoulders.. and not the chipmakers. Xecuter, OzXodus, Smartxx, and others are not responsible for your pirate activities. (Iyour = I'm not accusing YOU specifically.. only speaking in general terms of course.)
Whatever the overall intention of any modchip is.. real or perceived.. the consumer determines who if anyone gets ripped off.
Post by: kdogg- on March 25, 2004, 10:51:00 AM
I mean shit. We HAVE!!! one of those clones here and the peice of shit dont work right. Clones would be all fine and dandy if the seller admited it was a clone upfront and it worked. Hell this thing dont even work..
Personally I could care who makes any one chip as long as it works how its suppose to. My friends out $50 some dollars, has a peice of shit chip that doesnt work, modchip.ca will do nothing about it and now he has to re-order a working Xenium from I hope modchipman.com this time
Shits always funny when it doesnt happen to you personally. If this was you, you would be pissed too.
Post by: marksu on March 25, 2004, 12:03:00 PM
Go back to business school modchip.ca i would say!
I am glad though that xs-forum is making ppl aware of the modchip.ca fraud company.
Post by: GameDTX on March 25, 2004, 12:04:00 PM
too badddd... 
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 25, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (kronium @ Mar 25 2004, 03:48 PM) |
| Cloners are crying right now, because of all the bad publicity their crappy chip is getting, and the fact that no one now is going to buy a clone for a Xenium price from modchip.ca. |
This photo shows their age and skill:
EDIT: spelling errors
Post by: SniperKilla on March 25, 2004, 12:48:00 PM
| QUOTE (cool_guy @ Mar 25 2004, 06:22 PM) | ||
SniperKilla, in your own words:
|
ha, i never had a positive attitude towards the xodus team, ever since their first comparison chart stating that the matrix was better then the x2 because it used 58 components vs the xecuter2's 9..
it just showed exactly what this team was about..
and dont think i only like xecuter.. infact im waiting on a smartxx to come in, that will be installed promptly into my xbox..
and about being in the forum.. i saw the post in last reply by thing, and i had to read it and see what it was about..
this situation is like a store owner that dosent install locks on his door's, then comes back the next morning and gets mad because all his items are gone, then coming on the news and bitching that people stole his stuff..
MAYBE my earlier comments were a bit harsh.. and i apologize for them.. i was in a crabby mood because i was sitting in one of my many programming classes.... all im saying is they should have known this was coming by using xilinx..
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 25, 2004, 04:59:00 PM
Until they STATE at the point of SALE: "FAKE or CLONE XENIUM" or "XENIUM LIKE" modchip.. they are defrauding the public. Course.. any name of a chip that does not work.. or is defective with these high failure rates.. is downright FRAUD regardless.
What is worse.. they should not use the name XENIUM at all.
Welcome to the new world. In this world.. clones are as expensive as the real deal.. they don't work.. could fry your box.. and then they will lie to you.
[SARCASM] Thanks CLONERS for your contribution to the scene... [/SARCASM]
Post by: Master-Chief on March 25, 2004, 05:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (HSDEMONZ @ Mar 25 2004, 03:03 PM) | ||||
Think what you like.. you are entitled to your opinion. However.. currently shipping chips from just about everyone has a LEGAL cromwell bios.
Actually.. making the chip.. and shipping it with CROMWELL rips no one off. What you do with it.. determines if MS gets "ripped off" or not. Responsibility for ripping off MS falls squarely on the shoulders of the user. With the long ago introduction of Cromwell BIOS.. what all the chipmakers are doing.. is simply making a peice of hardware. What you do with that hardware. and how YOU alter it via flashing is your business. But it also put the responsibility on the consumers shoulders.. and not the chipmakers. Xecuter, OzXodus, Smartxx, and others are not responsible for your pirate activities. (Iyour = I'm not accusing YOU specifically.. only speaking in general terms of course.) Whatever the overall intention of any modchip is.. real or perceived.. the consumer determines who if anyone gets ripped off. |
LOL!
I love the fact that Cromwell BIOSes make Modchips legal... and then when people say it makes them illegal when you choose to use a hacked BIOS! The funny thing is, everybody here has a hacked BIOS!
Nothing offensive, just found some good ol' humor!
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 25, 2004, 05:08:00 PM
Post by: SniperKilla on March 25, 2004, 05:08:00 PM
and maybe they should be sold as the kenium chips or something
i still sit here in awe that ozxodus act so shocked that their chips were cloned... its simple, use insecure stuff and bad things happen
Post by: Master-Chief on March 25, 2004, 05:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (SniperKilla @ Mar 25 2004, 10:08 PM) |
| man i remember Magic 3 clones in the ps2 scene sold for 1/5th the price of the real deal, and eventually fored the price of chips down all together.. it was a good thing for the mod scene, because it exposed how much mod makers were inflating the price of every chip sold by almost 5x.. but if these clones arent working correctly.. something needs to be fixed and maybe they should be sold as the kenium chips or something i still sit here in awe that ozxodus act so shocked that their chips were cloned... its simple, use insecure stuff and bad things happen |
Why does Team OZXodus have to be bullied by bootleggers!
How come nobody bullies X-Ecuters or SmartXX's!
My Xeniums State: Flashing BIOS with Cromwell in Bank 4!
NOT!
Post by: Xeero on March 25, 2004, 05:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (SniperKilla @ Mar 25 2004, 09:51 AM) |
| haha.. owned next time dont use such insecure chips, and maybe you wont give the cloners a new chip in a weeks time this is probally the fastest cloned chip in history of mods, on ps2 or xbox.. |
Dude, we get it. That's the nth time you've posted that they used an insecure chip, and "got pwned", and you love it.
Post by: Xeero on March 25, 2004, 05:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (roar @ Mar 25 2004, 10:26 PM) | ||
Wow! That amuses me. I bet the folks at MS must be sitting around laughing and pointing and saying something like, "Well, now you know how WE feel" |
I fail to see how any of these modchip mfrs are ripping MS off. They're not selling backups. If people want to rip MS off, they can do it for free with an exploit.
Post by: Kori on March 25, 2004, 06:29:00 PM
Well I was surprised to read this. I have bought modchips from them in person, they only live a few blocks away. It really makes you wonder when a long time mod company starts doing this clone thing. What I found more amusing was the fact they were selling clones, for almost the same cost as the originals. A nice large markup and profit for themselves. Think from now on, I'll just have to go through the hassle of ordering them online and waiting on shipping, than just picking them up in person.
- Kori
Post by: boxer82003 on March 25, 2004, 07:43:00 PM
After sending large payment for large oder of Xenium chips and promissed the chips and a banner on xenium main website within 2 days nothing happened. They kept our payment and shipped nothing and did not reply to our emails or phone calls. Finally after almost 2 weeks of contacting different team members, they finally shipped the goods, but still no banner as promissed simply because they also sell directly to the public from another site in Canada. We are tired of their immature and childish tactics and were very bemused by their crappy business practices - they were obviosuley new to running any kind of business.
We then bought from another source and they tested 100% the same. We will give a guarantee that if ANY of the chips you have sold are faulty or do not work as they should - we will give a full refund AND a working chip in return - We are THAT confident - Xenium need to grow up - We wished we had stuck with only Xecuter as they gave you full support and a professional service.
Post by: running_wild on March 25, 2004, 07:56:00 PM
Whether or not what you say is true, the fact remains that they were still selling non-official products as Official products. This is blatent fraud and is most definatly illegal. To sell clones is one thing, but to sell clones and claim them to be originals is another.
Modcchip.ca is FAR from inncoent in this, and this is a fact.
-RuNNiNG_WiLD
Post by: havocaose on March 25, 2004, 07:57:00 PM
Post by: SigTom on March 25, 2004, 08:05:00 PM
Post by: havocaose on March 25, 2004, 08:14:00 PM
| QUOTE (dietrite @ Mar 22 2004, 11:53 PM) |
| why didn't you follow one of the links on the ozxodus page, and get one from divineo or modwhiz.com?????? no 1 would receive fake xenium's if they followed the official resellers posted on ozxodus's site. |
modchips.ca WAS one of the official resellers on their list... aparently xodus didn't fulfil a shipment to modchips.ca and they got fuckin sick of it and just ordered some fakes to sell out. They aren't on the list anymore.. but at one point they were.
Post by: ibizagtd on March 25, 2004, 09:15:00 PM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 25, 2004, 10:47:00 PM
Post by: running_wild on March 25, 2004, 11:37:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| The Xeniums we are selling are made from another new factory for the following reasons: After sending large payment for large oder of Xenium chips and promissed the chips and a banner on xenium main website within 2 days nothing happened. They kept our payment and shipped nothing and did not reply to our emails or phone calls. Finally after almost 2 weeks of contacting different team members, they finally shipped the goods, but still no banner as promissed simply because they also sell directly to the public from another site in Canada. We are tired of their immature and childish tactics and were very bemused by their crappy business practices - they were obviosuley new to running any kind of business. We then bought from another source and they tested 100% the same. We will give a guarantee that if ANY of the chips you have sold are faulty or do not work as they should - we will give a full refund AND a working chip in return - We are THAT confident - Xenium need to grow up - We wished we had stuck with only Xecuter as they gave you full support and a professional service. |
This is on their Xenium Page. They still aren't even admitting to the fact that these are clones. The statement "Ordering from another factory" would lead you to beleive they are still official xeniums. A modding newbie would order that mod without even realising he is buying a product with a 2/3 failure rate!
Someone needs to set that place right...
-RuNNiNG_WiLD
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 26, 2004, 12:45:00 AM
I hope that people will see threads like this on XS first before hitting their site. If they come here first.. it's a pretty safe bet people won't be going there and paying full price for their clones. (which don't work.. or work sporadically)
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 26, 2004, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 26, 2004, 01:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (Josh Adams @ Mar 26 2004, 04:00 AM) |
| sounds to me like modchip.ca is just coming up with some more bullshit to take the heat off themselves. |
It's nice that you can see through the bullshit modchip.ca spin control. It's a shame that once again I am forced to change suppliers for local chips in Canada.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 26, 2004, 01:11:00 AM
Post by: SigTom on March 26, 2004, 02:09:00 AM
However if what they say about OzXodus not giving them a banner, taking the payment, not shipping any chips, and not replying for 2 weeks is true, thats even worse in my eyes. The HNIC of the whole shebang couldnt even get thier stuff together to work with an 'official reseller' (at the time they were). If OxZodus cant even work with resellers and have a good professional relationship with them, and on top of that reosrt to childish marketing schemes by referring to competitors in the Press Releases in thinly veiled terms, what sort of opinion of them should I have?
Post by: Lex Luthor on March 26, 2004, 02:13:00 AM
Post by: marksu on March 26, 2004, 02:15:00 AM
| QUOTE (SigTom @ Mar 26 2004, 12:09 PM) |
| Im not trying to defend modchips.ca for selling fakes/clones at all. Its a terrible thing to do a bait and switch. However if what they say about OzXodus not giving them a banner, taking the payment, not shipping any chips, and not replying for 2 weeks is true, thats even worse in my eyes. The HNIC of the whole shebang couldnt even get thier stuff together to work with an 'official reseller' (at the time they were). If OxZodus cant even work with resellers and have a good professional relationship with them, and on top of that reosrt to childish marketing schemes by referring to competitors in the Press Releases in thinly veiled terms, what sort of opinion of them should I have? |
IF IT IS TRUE OR NOT IS NOT RELEVANT HERE!
There is no excuse for Modchip.ca to use business tactics that is considered as fraud.
Post by: marksu on March 26, 2004, 02:23:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| but the manufacturer says if anybody get a clone that does not work they will refund the money & supply a tested working chip, lets see ozxodus answer that one ! |
WTF has that has to have anything to do with this thread!!
We are discussion Modchip.ca business tactics as fraud!!
Post by: SigTom on March 26, 2004, 02:40:00 AM
Post by: SniperKilla on March 26, 2004, 02:52:00 AM
| QUOTE (Master-Chief @ Mar 26 2004, 02:10 AM) |
| How come nobody bullies X-Ecuters or SmartXX's! |
because both secured their chips... im sure if they could, they would be cloned in a heartbeat
Post by: marksu on March 26, 2004, 03:17:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| but the manufacturer says if anybody get a clone that does not work they will refund the money & supply a tested working chip, lets see ozxodus answer that one ! |
| QUOTE |
| Umm actually, marksu, there were multiple threads merged into one, any thread having to do with modchips.ca, and as I had made my original post in another thread and someone replied to it, I was obliged to reply to it in here as well, not start another thread. So it does apply here ya snot nosed kid. |
If that is the case use quote next time.
Edit: I ment Luthor.
Well in that case:
What else could the cloners do to try to fix the bad publicity the clone mods have created cause of the many bad clone mods.
Post by: phunzoid on March 26, 2004, 07:18:00 AM
| QUOTE (SigTom @ Mar 26 2004, 12:09 PM) |
| Im not trying to defend modchips.ca for selling fakes/clones at all....However if what they say about OzXodus not giving them a banner, taking the payment, not shipping any chips, and not replying for 2 weeks is true..... |
like my ol' grand-pappy used to say: "2 wrongs don't make a right"
Post by: lowsodium on March 26, 2004, 07:40:00 AM
Post by: lowsodium on March 26, 2004, 07:53:00 AM
| QUOTE (Funkster @ Mar 26 2004, 05:42 PM) |
| Whoa! So now you've turned this topic into an American VS Canadian debate! We are particularily proud of our modchip business (www.toka.ca)! And for the people who are believing modchips.ca's claim that Oz is hard to deal with and childish and liars is COMPLETELY false! We have been dealing with them for a bit now as Official Resellers and we have had nothing but outstanding customer service! They catered to our every need. Oh, and I don't think that you get a banner just like that, I think you either have to pay for it or earn it. Anyways, I have been following this thread for the last couple of days and I just wanted to say my piece! (And maybe get a little shameless advertising in as well )Funkster |
After the fiasco with modchips.ca, do you really think anyone will buy from you after the big fuss over BANNERS.
Post by: SigTom on March 26, 2004, 08:04:00 AM
You cant say that modchips.ca experience with OxZodus hasnt been like theyve prtrayed it, all you can do is speak to the experiences youve had with them. For all you know, part of the payment modchips.ca made to OzXodus was for a banner. So its great your company is havnig a good relationship with them, but apprently, they dont treat all resellers as well as you.
marksu:
dont tell me how to post, Im old enough and smart enough to know how I want to post any replies I have.
Post by: messed on March 26, 2004, 08:16:00 AM
Post by: pewpster on March 26, 2004, 09:51:00 AM
Post by: kronium on March 26, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: marksu on March 26, 2004, 01:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (kronium @ Mar 26 2004, 08:38 PM) |
| SigTom, I find it utterly amazing that you can believe, yet alone quote garbage that was fabricated by modchip.ca. The bastards are lying about their products and ripping off consumers, yet you qoute their website like gospel! Truly amazing. |
Exactly!
Still what ever bad experience they may have had with Ozxodus it is no excuse for Modchip.ca to use business tactics that is considered as fraud.
Post by: SigTom on March 26, 2004, 06:04:00 PM
Where did they lie in thier statement on thier site? They said, yes we have chips from a different facotry. No where does it say this is an Official Xenium from OzXodus, in fact, except for mentioning OzXodus in the rant they posted, no where else are they mentioned or linked to. They went on to explain WHY they had clones, not that it matters, but hey, this is ALOT more than any of us have heard from OzXodus isnt it?
Im quite happy to see the Xenium and OzXodus team has had a bit of a bad time about it all, this is what you get for starting your Marketing Blitz with childish innuendos and tactics.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 26, 2004, 08:41:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Where did they lie in thier statement on thier site? They said, yes we have chips from a different facotry. No where does it say this is an Official Xenium from OzXodus, in fact, except for mentioning OzXodus in the rant they posted, no where else are they mentioned or linked to. They went on to explain WHY they had clones, not that it matters, but hey, this is ALOT more than any of us have heard from OzXodus isnt it? |
Using Official Xenium Pictures, Logos, etc alone shows they are misrepresenting the chips they sell.
Now.. if they called it the "Y" chip.. or anything but "Xenium".. and didn't use official OzXodus photography etc to proote sales of their fake chips.. then most of this issue would go way.
Course.. they won't do that. They are still trying to cash in on the OzXodus Brand Recognition.
If they weren't trying to pass off their fake as the real deal.. they would use a new name.. and not use official OzXodus Pics and photography.
As they say.. a picture is worth a thousand words.
Modchip.ca / .us relative silence in their matter.. on top of the lies.. is a huge dis-service to their customers.. and to the scene.
If OzXodus had bad biz dealings with Modchip.ca.. Modchip.ca should have been vocal about it.. or walked away from it entirely, choosing to not sell Xenium Chips. Instead.. they made a conscious decision to be sneaky, abusing the privilege of being listed as an offiical reseller.. and buying what they clearly new to be non-authentic chips.
As an official Reseller.. they also had the responsibility of alerting OzXodus to the fact that "x" factory was selling these clones.. and were outisde the approved disctribution system. It's very clear.. that modchip.ca has used and abused this situation to their own ends. Fortunately.. people are not gullible.. an what more important.. aren't stupid. Chips that don't work proper.. are useless.
If you still don't see or conceed that point.. you are wasting your time and the time of anyone reading this thread.
XS does not support or condone cloners. Additionally.. we don't support or condone posts that continue to support cloners.
Modchip.ca was caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They are a clone seller. Posts supporting them on this site will note be tolerated. This is the only thread where posts regarding people being scammed by modchip.ca is allowed. People posting in support of modchip.ca and their clone chip efforts.. are not welcome in this thread, forum, or site.
| QUOTE |
| Im quite happy to see the Xenium and OzXodus team has had a bit of a bad time about it all, this is what you get for starting your Marketing Blitz with childish innuendos and tactics. |
It's quite clear from your posts what your PRO clone / Pro Modchip.ca stance is. Carefully consider future posts in the Xenium Forum that you make. Cloners and people blatantly supporting and spamming threads with their support.. aren't welcome here.
Post by: lowsodium on March 26, 2004, 10:25:00 PM
. I mean WTF? 4th Gen and no >137 GB support? Hopefully this gets addressed soon. The real issue here is that Ozxodus offers an incredible chip that I have used in 2 XBOX's and they work flawlessly.
Number 2, I followed their link to Divineo.com and had my Chip on the 3rd day for $66.74 (1 day to process, shipped on the second day, and delivered on the third day). Why anyone would stray from the manufacturer's website list of credible resellers is beyond me and opens the door to fraud.
Post by: thegame_evolution on March 26, 2004, 10:49:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| It is clear that Hsdemonz and sigtom are affiliated with Ozxodus and modchips.ca respectively. |
They are the only two who are bringing sense to this thread and they are the insiders???? why the fuck would someone as respected around here as HSDEMONZ affiliate himself with a fake modchip seller???
| QUOTE |
| I think it is shameful that Ozxodus doesn't support HD's larger then 137 GB in their 1.1 release . I mean WTF? 4th Gen and no >137 GB support? |
I could be wrong in some form but isnt it the bios you flash on the chip that determines if you can put bigger than 137 GB??
| QUOTE |
| The real issue here is that Ozxodus offers an incredible chip that I have used in 2 XBOX's and they work flawlessly. |
*sniffs* sounds like a modchip.ca rep to me....... howdoyalikethat???
Post by: marksu on March 26, 2004, 11:08:00 PM
WHY DOES HE NOT GET THAT?????????
HSDEMONZ made a very good point by saying to SigTom:
| QUOTE |
| If you still don't see or conceed that point.. you are wasting your time and the time of anyone reading this thread. |
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 26, 2004, 11:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (cool_guy @ Mar 27 2004, 02:46 AM) |
| jesus hsdemonz, calm down. Why is it that you are discouraging people from posting their opinions? It's not like he is a selling the damn things. It seems you are taking this WAY to serious, even more than those who are actually loosing money over this; chill out dude. |
I felt the same way when I was ripped off during the Xecuter Fakes Scandal.
This is the second time I've ended up with FAKE chips.. and seeing the PRO Clonechip cheerleaders in here is annoying.
I will tone it down some.. but the sentiment will remain.. as will the policy.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 26, 2004, 11:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (lowsodium @ Mar 27 2004, 03:25 AM) |
| It is clear that Hsdemonz and sigtom are affiliated with Ozxodus and modchips.ca respectively. |
I can't speak for SIG.. but I have no more allegiance to OzXodus then I do to SmartXX, Xecuter, or EB. It's been said before.. but it bears mentioning again.. that I buy and use chips from all the popular makers. There really isn't a chip that has been made that I haven't used at onetime or another. (for xbox)
The customer is always right.
I'll buy what they want.
In fact.. Xecuter is still the chip I sell the most of in my premods. That is based on my customers decisions. That is quickly changing.. as more and more people are requesting authentic Xeniums. Also highly requested and anticipated is the offerings from Xecuter and EB around the corner.
So.. don't mistake passion.. for being an Xenium Fanboy. I do however recommend and endorse people to use and try an Authentic Xenium Modchip. 4th Gen Chips (real ones.. not clones) are paving the way for some interesting ideas and concepts.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 26, 2004, 11:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (thegame_evolution @ Mar 27 2004, 03:49 AM) |
| They are the only two who are bringing sense to this thread and they are the insiders???? why the fuck would someone as respected around here as HSDEMONZ affiliate himself with a fake modchip seller??? |
You misunderstood him.. he implied I was an OzXodus suckhole and that Sig for a Clone Promotor.
So.. to clarify.. He is the clone promotor..
...and I'm just a schmuck who buys everything on the market.. including Xeniums.
Post by: marksu on March 26, 2004, 11:51:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| So.. to clarify.. He is the clone promotor.. |
true and note that this forum is not the only one where SigTom has been promoting the clones.
Post by: hand_of_LAW on March 27, 2004, 02:13:00 AM
Modchip.ca are SCUM !
If you defend anything they have done you are as stupid and ignorant as they are, WAKE UP you fools !
D.
Post by: marksu on March 27, 2004, 02:39:00 AM
Look at the following modchip.ca page:
CLICK HERE TO IDENTIFY FAKE MAGIC MODCHIPS
Their statemenet goes following:
| QUOTE |
| All the chips below are FAKE many websites show a picture of a real magic modchip but then send you one of the chips below, if you have been sold a fake chip and stated it was a magic product they have to give a full refund by law! Do not risk the clones always buy real magic which is all we sell at www.modchip.ca . |
EDIT:
Here is one other statement I found on modchip.ca site
| QUOTE |
| WARNING many sites show our picture or say magic 3.2 and send you a clone or a 3.1 , dont risk the clones, they look the same but do not work correctly! Also there is no REAL magic modchip higher then 3.2 if they state magic 4 the site is a Fraud |
Post by: lowsodium on March 27, 2004, 05:14:00 AM
| QUOTE (thegame_evolution @ Mar 27 2004, 08:49 AM) | ||||||
They are the only two who are bringing sense to this thread and they are the insiders???? why the fuck would someone as respected around here as HSDEMONZ affiliate himself with a fake modchip seller???
I could be wrong in some form but isnt it the bios you flash on the chip that determines if you can put bigger than 137 GB??
*sniffs* sounds like a modchip.ca rep to me....... howdoyalikethat??? |
Man you got your head up your ass so far you can't even read straight. It amazes me someone can read but can not understand what they are reading.
Dumbass...I clearly state that HSDEMONZ is not affiliated with modchips.ca...you do not know what respectively means?
#2 No shit the Bios dictates what size HD you can use once booted into a dashboard. But where in my Fucking post do I mention anything about a dashboard or booting into another Bios? Like I said, the Xenium does not support larger then 137 GB HD's while in the Xenium OS. WHICH MEANS YOU CAN'T DO A F'ING SMART HD COPY FROM THE MENU. So dummy, say you want to replace your 120GB HD with a 200GB HD...you have to use slayer's or some other tool to format F: to use the rest of the space so it shows greater then 137GB.
#3 I SAID O Z X O D U S makes good chips, so how the fuck do you get that I am endorsing modchips.ca?
Man it is so frustrating when people have such little comprehension of the english language when they live in the US. If you are not from the US, then I appologize and you are forgiven for your incoherent post.
Post by: SigTom on March 27, 2004, 07:20:00 AM
Edit:Oppsie, damn keyboard moving around on me.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 27, 2004, 02:02:00 PM
Dude.. you spelled my name wrong.
Do what you must to the rest of the words.. but always make my name correctly. In all seriousness.. Just be careful...
I've removed a number of PRO-CLONE people (well.. they weren't so much pro clone.. as they were THE CLONERS themselves.
.. and if the pro-clone thing is being pumped inot the other forums.. especially after the recent policy change.. we won't be happy.
Post by: Morglum on March 27, 2004, 02:24:00 PM
Anyways the site is ***************modchip.ca needs to take a leaf out of their book, atleast they admit theyre clones they sell.
ADMIN EDIT: thanks for the link.. XS isn't interested in helping them sell more clones. We know you only posted it as a fact and not as a PRO-Clone or spam. Thanks.
Post by: marksu on March 28, 2004, 04:08:00 AM
So some of you out there give your vote.
Post by: marksu on March 28, 2004, 09:25:00 AM
Hope somebody can give you the answares that you need.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 29, 2004, 03:15:00 AM
| QUOTE (PoiDog @ Mar 28 2004, 12:26 PM) |
| Use a magnifying glass when soldering, never saw that advice yet. |
If you haven't seen it yet.. it is likely just an oversight on the part of experienced people.
My soldering station includes bracks to hold parts, and a large lense to make viewing of the small area large and easy to see. Proper soldering stations aren't expensive.
As I imagine.. probably just an oversight.
Nothing on the XBOX.. actually require a lense though.. unless the ole' eyesight isn't what it should be.
Post by: PoiDog on March 29, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
Post by: Josh Adams on March 29, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 30, 2004, 01:21:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| This forum is for help and support with official OZXodus Products. Posts promoting or supporting technical discussion about clone chips.. are NOT to be made in this forum. People ignoring this rule, and abusing their posting privs on XS.. will be removed. Just as we didn't expect Xecuter to support the clone/fake chips.. nor do we expect OzXodus. This isn't a judgement on the quality of these CLONES.. only that the TEAM OZXODUS forum here on XS is the wrong place for such discussion. Period. |
| QUOTE |
| NO POSTS, SPAM, or ADS or PROPOGANDA for CLONE/FAKE modchips on XS XBOX SCENE is not the place to discuss, promote, or ask for support for CLONE or FAKE modchips. XS is not the place to promote sales of FAKE or CLONE chips in the forums. We have no CLONE of FAKE chip forum.. so there will be no discussion supporting those chips. (and definitely no more bums with clear ties to the cloners pumping threads with slaes pitches that are designed to drive up sales of what is clearly BAD CLONE CHIPS.) People blatantly posting and promoting these chips.. including ads, spam, reviews designed to pump sales will find their posting privs removed and likely their accounts suspended. XS is here to support the authentic chipmakers. These modchip forums are here for the discussion and support of those chips. XS is not here to support the problems associated with FAKE x2 chips.. or with Fake Xenium Chips.. or future fakes that will no doubt hit the market. People who discover they have unknowingly purchased a FAKE or CLONE chip.. contact the seller.. demand a refund. If you don't get it.. contact your Credit card company or PAypal and reverse the charges. So far.. there are NO GOOD CLONES/FAKES for 3rd or 4th Generation XBOX MODCHIPS.. Don't buy one.. unless you want to support yourself.. and the cloners won't be supporting you.. and will lie and state they didn't know where they got them from.. or will claim they can fix with software etc. People wishing to promote their FAKe/CLONE chips.. feel free to contact me personally.. and we'll save you the time of posting and just ban your account now. There is NO acceptable forum to make posts to support CLONE/FAKE Chips. Feel free to find other XBOX sites to post that "info" on. FAKE IS FAKE IS FAKE. If you aren't interested in buying a real chip with real support both from the manfacturer and their websites/forums.. and from unofficial support forums like XS.. consider a SOFT MOD/EXPLOIT. Moderators will remove posts that promote the sale of clone/fake chips.. inclding posts that are vbascially ads, spam, or propoganda for them... or otherwise support the cloners and their defective chips. |
Now.. if case this isn't clear.. CLONE SELLERS posting in ANY forum on XS.. and promoting their site.. their clone chips.. etc.. will be BANNED from XS.
XS does not endorse or condone the use of clone chips.. especially since they have already been confirmed to be defective.
This policy is global on this site.
If you sell clones.. don't expect to be allowed to post and promote your crap here. Also.. any contests posted on XS.. require ADMIN approval. No Approval.. no contests. (includes POST here shit)
People ignoring clearly posted rules.. will not be welomce here.
There is NO forum on XS.. where discussion, promotion, testing and review, etc of clone chips is allowed. That extends to PM spamming. People PM spamming members randomly.. will also not be welcome.
This policy is not limited to CLONE SELLERS. Individuals who feel the need to break the posted rules.. save yourself the time.. contact me.. and we'll process the ban on your account right away.
Clone Chips, CLone Sellers, CLone discussions.. are not welcome on XS.
Post by: shodanjr_gr on April 14, 2004, 01:50:00 AM
| QUOTE (ibizagtd @ Mar 25 2004, 06:15 PM) |
| It seems Divineo is ripping off people in the UK and abroad with their over priced chips and also they are very stupid talking about clone chips as all of there magic chips etc are clones!,our advice is don't ever buy any chips from them as they are the biggest rip off site on the net! You can buy all your chips and accessories much much cheaper from other sites on the net including us! |
Thats a bunch of BS. Yes, maybe divineo is just a small tad more expensive than other modchip resellers but they are so responsible they deserve a price.
Countless people i know have ordered from them. 100% satisfaction.
Post by: fLiPsKiLLz on April 14, 2004, 07:02:00 AM
What a waste...