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Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 18, 2004, 05:15:00 PM
I have a pretty strong feeling that smartxx's 4mb memory is going to start wiping Xenium on the floor like a ragdoll....

How are we supposed to get half the features they have with only 1mb of room?!?!

I think the ftp linux setup they have is 2mb by itself... as much as I hate to say it we will not be able to do a whole lot with only 1 meg of bios room...

Why why ozXodus do you have to screw us over so bad?!?! we paid good money to get this chip, and they take 2 months to come out with a wimpy update that only rivals the first update of the Smartxx... How lonng till an update with features the smartxx doesn't have?!?!?! 3 yrs.... dry.gif

I am feeling sorry I got a xenium... we are getting pwn3d.

Let me know how you guys feel about this.
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: heinrich on March 18, 2004, 05:23:00 PM
afaik, xenium is cheaper than the smartxx...

You know what you are buying when you buy it, I dont see how anyone is getting screwed.
If you want to find some people who are getting screwed, you should talk to the people buying x2's for more than the xenium.  laugh.gif
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 18, 2004, 05:30:00 PM
Or people buying clones of XENIUM and are now discovering the problems.. lag.. corrupting memory.. staggered bootup.. did I mention Lag?

Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 18, 2004, 05:32:00 PM
hmm....very good point!

Still, that does not dismiss the fact we are getting screwed over, like when is OzXodus going to start bringing out all the Uber features like upgradeable memory?!?!?

It will make me(and a lot more Xenium Owners very happy)...They are talking big I think they need to let us know about what is in the works.

Why is it I have a strong feeling that they don't want to say anythin because SmartXX will have every feature they mention in their next O.S. update?

I guess we should be grateful we even have a mod-chip that let's us flash whatever bios we want...
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 18, 2004, 05:37:00 PM
QUOTE (Tidusblitz111 @ Mar 18 2004, 10:32 PM)
Why is it I have a strong feeling that they don't want to say anythin because SmartXX will have every feature they mention in their next O.S. update?

If I was designing features.. I'd sit on them until they are ready. no Point in giving the competition a roadmap of my plans. smile.gif

Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: NikAmi on March 18, 2004, 07:01:00 PM
QUOTE (heinrich @ Mar 18 2004, 09:23 PM)
afaik, xenium is cheaper than the smartxx...

You know what you are buying when you buy it, I dont see how anyone is getting screwed.
If you want to find some people who are getting screwed, you should talk to the people buying x2's for more than the xenium.  laugh.gif

I would definitely pay a measely $8 more for a ridiculously far superior chip with unbelieveably far superior support and updates. Sucks to be you, but hey don't cry. Pawn your crappy chip to some clueless newb and upgrade to a SmartXX! ;P
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Xeero on March 18, 2004, 07:11:00 PM
All these crazy, ub3r l33t pimptastic features you're talking about have nothing to do with a 4MB flashROM.  All the larger flashROM is good for is holding more BIOSes.

I'm pretty sure the Ed @ Chip crap they have is part of their OS itself, if I'm not mistaken, and that doesn't go on the portion of the flashROM dedicated to holding BIOSes.

I own a Xenium, and I do not feel as though I'm getting "pwn3d".
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Xeero on March 18, 2004, 07:12:00 PM
QUOTE (NikAmi @ Mar 19 2004, 12:01 AM)
a ridiculously far superior chip with unbelieveably far superior support and updates

Ohhhh, but let's talk about the....erm, never mind.  I'd hate to have to go into one marketing lie after another.  These OzXodus guys don't spend a lot of time in the SmartXX forum, so they may not be familiar with all the debacles.  Another day, right?  smile.gif
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Xeero on March 18, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE (Xeero @ Mar 19 2004, 12:11 AM)
I'm pretty sure the Ed @ Chip crap they have is part of their OS itself, if I'm not mistaken, and that doesn't go on the portion of the flashROM dedicated to holding BIOSes.

I take it back.  Looks like it's a 2MB BIOS all by itself.  2MB is way too big just to allow FTPing in...has that not occurred to anyone?  Christ, just have an EvoX disc handy.
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: heinrich on March 18, 2004, 07:20:00 PM
QUOTE (NikAmi @ Mar 19 2004, 12:01 AM)
QUOTE (heinrich @ Mar 18 2004, 09:23 PM)
afaik, xenium is cheaper than the smartxx...

You know what you are buying when you buy it, I dont see how anyone is getting screwed.
If you want to find some people who are getting screwed, you should talk to the people buying x2's for more than the xenium.  laugh.gif

I would definitely pay a measely $8 more for a ridiculously far superior chip with unbelieveably far superior support and updates. Sucks to be you, but hey don't cry. Pawn your crappy chip to some clueless newb and upgrade to a SmartXX! ;P

uhm, I have a smartxx.  wink.gif
QUOTE
I take it back. Looks like it's a 2MB BIOS all by itself. 2MB is way too big just to allow FTPing in...has that not occurred to anyone? Christ, just have an EvoX disc handy.

flash the ed@chip via the webserver, ftp the xbox, copy over a dash, then flash over the ed@chip.  And with the formatting and locking options as well, you can flash your bios, replace your hard drive, format, and install a dash, all w/o burning a single cd.
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: hand_of_LAW on March 18, 2004, 10:50:00 PM
U Dik !





D.

Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Xeero on March 19, 2004, 02:19:00 AM
QUOTE (heinrich @ Mar 19 2004, 12:20 AM)
QUOTE
I take it back. Looks like it's a 2MB BIOS all by itself. 2MB is way too big just to allow FTPing in...has that not occurred to anyone? Christ, just have an EvoX disc handy.

flash the ed@chip via the webserver, ftp the xbox, copy over a dash, then flash over the ed@chip.  And with the formatting and locking options as well, you can flash your bios, replace your hard drive, format, and install a dash, all w/o burning a single cd.

Not saying it's not a handy feature.  I'm just saying it's really not enough for these people to gripe about.
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: xboxhackcrack on March 19, 2004, 03:14:00 AM
the smart(ass)xx chip looked nice, but the Xenium chips will have the same capabilities with LCD screens and bigger memory.
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Artifex on March 19, 2004, 03:48:00 AM
Good things come to those who wait.

Flash size is not an issue.  The fact that it takes "them" 2mb to do some things does not mean it HAS to take 2mb to do them.

Patience.

All will be revealed in good time.

--Artifex
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 09:05:00 AM
tongue.gif  nifty thrifty, thrifty nifty ) we will wait...and....wait....and...wait..and wait........ And then we'll teabag those smartxx hoes! ohmy.gif  unsure.gif  Lol did  I really say that?!?!?  muhaha.gif

Thanks everyone for the replies,  everyone...I am sure we have boosted the moral of many Xenium owners, and realized that many people *cough* NikAmi *cough*..don't really know anything about anything...

Ok, patience is a virtue correct? But...honestly a month an a half for 1 update?

Maybe it's just me...
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 19, 2004, 02:48:00 PM
blink.gif

don't act 1337, Tidus... we all know you're not 1337.....

JK  laugh.gif
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 03:15:00 PM
QUOTE (EmperorPsiblade @ Mar 20 2004, 12:48 AM)
ummmmmmm... ok......  blink.gif

don't act 1337, Tidus... we all know you're not 1337.....

JK  laugh.gif

Lol, watch it Psi I might  uber h4x0r j00 to d347h!!!!!1111...

Lol, just messin with ya man, but when did I claim that I was a 1337 "xbox" h4x0r?

stop hating on me Emperor tongue.gif   jester.gif


Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Master-Chief on March 19, 2004, 05:40:00 PM
QUOTE (Flagg3 @ Mar 19 2004, 08:43 PM)
QUOTE (heinrich @ Mar 19 2004, 12:20 AM)
QUOTE]
flash the ed@chip via the webserver, ftp the xbox, copy over a dash, then flash over the ed@chip.  And with the formatting and locking options as well, you can flash your bios, replace your hard drive, format, and install a dash, all w/o burning a single cd.

Definitely a useful feature, no question.  But in real life, it's not like you have to burn an evox disc every day.  As long as you have burned an evox cd/dvd at some point in your life, you will never need to burn another one again, and so it's not exactly an end all be all feature.

Either way, I would be astounded if OzXodus doesn't add ftp at some point in the future.  Team Xecuter was able to add ftp to a 512k BIOS, I'm sure OzXodus can figure out how to add it into 1mb.

Flagg

They were? Which BIOS was that?  blink.gif
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: heinrich on March 19, 2004, 06:05:00 PM
4978 (1mb - broke on x2lites)
4978 fixed (1mb)
4978.02 (512k - IGR broke)
4978.03 (512k)

There was simply an .xbe in the bios image, and was dependant on the bios already loading of course.
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
dry.gif

If the XOS itself is 1mb how do they plan to get more features including ftp, and something like LAN flashing into 1 meg....that's physically impossible..right?
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Master-Chief on March 19, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
QUOTE (heinrich @ Mar 19 2004, 11:05 PM)
4978 (1mb - broke on x2lites)
4978 fixed (1mb)
4978.02 (512k - IGR broke)
4978.03 (512k)

There was simply an .xbe in the bios image, and was dependant on the bios already loading of course.

Thats awsome, I'm about to put that on my Xenium! Does that mean I can transfer stuff to my Xbox while like playing Halo online?  ohmy.gif
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 06:21:00 PM
no.. it means you can boot the FTP segment of the BIOS.. and have basic FTP.
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 06:28:00 PM
YOU LITTLE PUNK MASTER-CHIEF STOP SPAMMING MY TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glad I got that out of my system...

Anyways, if you would like more info go to the modchip section on the front page, goto cracked bios/kernels and it will give you a list of every bios made and what they do....

but, please bring you bios talk to the "Hacked Bios" forums....
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: NikAmi on March 19, 2004, 08:13:00 PM
QUOTE (Tidusblitz111 @ Mar 19 2004, 01:05 PM)
Well...uhh.. I didn't exactly expect this to draw so much attention, but great!

And for real, Artifex replying that's gangsta.....

Ok, sounds nifty(god I love that word... tongue.gif  nifty thrifty, thrifty nifty ) we will wait...and....wait....and...wait..and wait........ And then we'll teabag those smartxx hoes! ohmy.gif  unsure.gif  Lol did  I really say that?!?!?  muhaha.gif

Thanks everyone for the replies,  everyone...I am sure we have boosted the moral of many Xenium owners, and realized that many people *cough* NikAmi *cough*..don't really know anything about anything...

Ok, patience is a virtue correct? But...honestly a month an a half for 1 update?

Maybe it's just me...

Tidus...be a good little noob: sit down and shut the fuck up.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and are posting for the sake of posting. You the most twisted around, fucked up person I have ever seen on these forums. Hell, you were the one who started this topic with the title "Xenium Owners are so Screwed" and now you are getting mad at me when I am pointing out why. As to all you other people, references to the SmartXX team releasing "sloppy" code are completely unbased. Take the OS for example. The Xenium's is 1 MB (versus 0.5 for the SmartXX) and it does less. The ED @ Chip may have to be that big because the ftp's that were on bioses, even though they were very small, they were extremely buggy and hence they were eliminated in the next revision. Yeah, you could burn an EvoX boot disk, but then what is the point of shelling out the excess money for one of these 4th gen chips? In fact, if you were going to do it this way, it makes less sense as you have to manually (only in Xenium) flash the BIOS from the cd. For any experienced user, these 4th gen chips are mostly useless with a bunch of unneeded features (SmartXX included), but for noobs, these chips are godsends so it would make sense to make these things as noob friendly as possible. I personally don't care that the Xenium has less flash space than the SmartXX, but (at least for noobs) they should definitely revamp the OS to include an HTTP server (maybe even FTP though HTTP is all that is needed) because with the chip's hardware, there is no reason that a customer should have to bother burning a new disc everytime there is a new OS update, although judging by recent events, or lack of them, that isn't too often. Anyways, I am not flaming the Xenium chip I am just pissed at them because I almost bought theirs (I would have if I had had my XBox at that time) and I don't people getting screwed by them especially seeing as how they were so excited to receive their chips. It's like telling a child that they're going to Disneyland and then taking them to the park. Anyways, go ahead TidusBlitz, away with your trademark, headless chicken flaming. I laugh at you.  rotfl.gif
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
sleep.gif  Luckily I am a calm type of guy NikAmi and I can take some 6yr. old's punk flame...but when I ask you how many FAQ's have you written, can you say "Tidus is a n00b, he has not gotten one FAQ pinned!, I NikAmi on the other hand have contributed greatly to the scene" Can you...can you honestly say that you have contributed greatly to the scene?

1) judging one by your post count I would say you have not done 1/4 of what I have done...

2)Your quality of Posting is repetitive, I bet you do not realize that you say the sam thing over about 4...no wait 5 times?

3)Any halfway educated person would know how to FUCKING SEPERATE PARAGRAPHS....

4)You are clueless as to the world around you, because no halfway decent chip- maker would come up with a marketing scheme like the banning and crypt-stealth level 1 lie...

5)No self respecting modder would call any other modder a n00b because they would like to get a response from the community on the speed of progress in features of their chip.

6) And, last but not least, being that you are claiming yourself to be so 1337 why would you waist your time to bother some "noob" in a forum that is rivaling a forum about your chip.

So, unless you would like to settle this in a professional manner(you talk to me on AIM, we direct connect, and see who can gain r00t first)..

GO BACK TO THE DUMP YOU CAME FROM AND HAVE A NICE DAY WITH "Rosie the Palm"..

tongue.gif nuff said
Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Ferris23 on March 20, 2004, 04:19:00 AM
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Title: Xenium Owners Are So Screwed...
Post by: Xeero on March 20, 2004, 04:41:00 AM
Then it's settled.  Nobody is screwed, and anyone who wants to flame can take it up in PM.