Post by: CeREaL on December 29, 2003, 10:40:00 PM
(edit) one more thing i think using the power and eject button to switch bioses is the best way its easy and you dont have to attach external switches anywhere on the case
Post by: Heet on December 30, 2003, 06:47:00 PM
Post by: MyUtopia on December 31, 2003, 07:03:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| the xenium has the same features as the x3 maybe a few differences but they will both probably add more features before they are officially released ! i just wonder what they are going to add |
This is interesting reading... I do not care for the politics, but its interesting if the OZX2 that is mentioned below is actually the Xenium.
The below was from the Xecuter3 Announced pinned thread in the Xecuter topic...
| QUOTE |
| I wanted to see Uber in private before talking about that but afterall we'll do it here... 3 hours before Uber posted the X3 features list he spoke with Zeus, who gave him the feature list of OZXCHIP2, WHY ? And the X3 list is word for word the same as the OZX2 one. Why did zeus gave him this list ? money or 200 free mods (it makes me remember something) probably... just amazing when few months ago Uber threatened him... Hopefully Zeus only knows 1/3 of the list. |
Post by: Heet on December 31, 2003, 07:57:00 AM
*Just read the above post and as interesting as it is, im not really surprised since they are in direct competition with one another. Business is business and they are both great chip makers, and in the case of Xecuter, great bios devs. Uber seems like a really good guy that does a lot for the scene but gets slammed alot for bullshit reasons that always add up to nothing. If he does screw up he goes out of his way to fix it. I think the last bios revision was what.....9 or 10 hours? Says a lot.
Post by: SniperKilla on December 31, 2003, 10:02:00 AM
i like all the attacks on the xecuter chips on the newest enws update...
very classy
Post by: Heet on December 31, 2003, 10:18:00 AM
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Post by: SniperKilla on December 31, 2003, 11:03:00 AM
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Post by: Potato Bob on December 31, 2003, 07:30:00 PM
Post by: SniperKilla on December 31, 2003, 07:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (jokk @ Dec 31 2003, 08:47 PM) |
| Executor mods has never been the best out there, overhyped, bank1 cause some apps/emu/dash to hang when used and it occurs on any X2.x. Now don't tell us u're not biased SniperKilla, do you remember team gotmod, were you a member ?!? Here . Do we need to remember everyone who is behind system mod.... cmon dude, i didn't think you were an executor fanboy  |
basies aside... the shit OzXodus is pulling is LAME..
and xecuter chips are always the benchmark
Post by: SniperKilla on December 31, 2003, 08:39:00 PM
anyway the attacks are fucking LAME CHILDISH CRAP
Post by: alexh on January 01, 2004, 02:32:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| file away the good and execute the bad. |
I have to say that is is a strange choice in words, but personally I think maybe he's reading way too much into it
Cheers
Alex
Post by: dzv on January 01, 2004, 02:47:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| There is no room for an easy buy with gimmicks and such that really do very little to enhance the consumers ease and experience. |
Post by: alexh on January 01, 2004, 02:55:00 AM
Yeah, cheaky I'd say that's what it was, bit of harmless mocking
Cheers
Alex
Post by: HSDEMONZ on January 01, 2004, 05:20:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| There is no room for an easy buy with gimmicks and such that really do very little to enhance the consumers ease and experience. |
you caught that too huh..
Post by: conc3pt on January 01, 2004, 08:16:00 AM
Post by: Yuyu on January 01, 2004, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: Artifex on January 01, 2004, 12:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (conc3pt @ Jan 1 2004, 06:16 PM) |
| i dont' know about you guys but you remember when the chameleon came out? WAS supposed to be 20$ but what.... they bump it up to 200%+? and if i remember... their reasoning was because they have to give discount in bulk? 20$ sounds alot cheaper than 35$ if you buy in bulks of 20 (not the real numbers) x2 has never changed prices on their customers like that according to what i remember/or have read. if you're talkin about marketing...THAT is the reason why i was turned off by them and have been pro x2 |
You sure that wasn't EB2K's doing?
Sounds more like their M.O. then Xodus'
--A
Post by: Heet on January 01, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
Post by: conc3pt on January 01, 2004, 11:43:00 PM
it jumped from 20$ to 39$ right?
Post by: MaTiAz on January 02, 2004, 06:24:00 AM
I bought a Xecuter2 Lite Plus. It never worked. Ok, I returned it and got a XBIT. Didn't work either. I'm sure that OzXodus is better than Xecuter.
Actually OzX is good in the software side, since their OzXchip was simply a Cheapmod with jumpers and a pcb. Xodus m,ade a little more in the hardware.
Well, I should raise a hat for Xecuter since they made their mods from scratch. OzX and many others made only Cheapmods. Xodus changed the cheapmod concept a little.
Post by: Xeero on January 02, 2004, 06:34:00 AM
| QUOTE (Heet @ Jan 1 2004, 07:01 PM) |
| No it was the Xodus Team decision. I was pissed at first but once I got one in my hands I realized that it was a hell of a deal even for a few bucks more. |
What makes you think that was Xodus' decision rather than EB2K's?
Post by: Flagg3 on January 02, 2004, 08:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (Orgasmic Chilli @ Jan 2 2004, 07:40 PM) |
I know that only time will tell but I have found an xbox under the xmas tree. what a Suprise (not really  )! but should I wait for this chip and/or the exceturer 3? or just order a chip which is already availableps. I got a shitty Thomson drive in my xbox  looks like i'm gonna have to look for a samsung drive |
I would wait a week or two for the new chips. Even if you don't want one, the prices on the older chips will drop almost immediately.
From what I can tell, the X3 and the Xenium will both have basically the same features. It appears that the Xenium will ship sooner than the X3, so if you can't wait then the Xenium will most likely be available first.
After they both ship, you probably couldn't go wrong with either one. I would choose between the two mainly on price.
Flagg
Post by: Flagg3 on January 02, 2004, 08:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (conc3pt @ Jan 1 2004, 01:16 PM) |
| i dont' know about you guys but you remember when the chameleon came out? WAS supposed to be 20$ but what.... they bump it up to 200%+? and if i remember... their reasoning was because they have to give discount in bulk? 20$ sounds alot cheaper than 35$ if you buy in bulks of 20 (not the real numbers) x2 has never changed prices on their customers like that according to what i remember/or have read. if you're talkin about marketing...THAT is the reason why i was turned off by them and have been pro x2 |
The Chameleon was supposed to be $25 at launch, and they honored that price. They also gave about a weeks notice to everyone who wanted the chip at that price they could receive it.
I bought 5 chameleons at $25 each at launch. After the price increase, they wen't from $25 + shipping to $35 with shipping included, so if you were buying only one, then the price increase was only a couple of dollars.
So, while it wasn't the best move, there was no deception. It was simply a price increase.
Flagg
Post by: Heet on January 03, 2004, 03:46:00 PM
Post by: swolsten on January 06, 2004, 05:53:00 PM
Good luck with the mod guys, I know it will take off and I will be one of the first people ordering a few of them. Please pm me if you are accepting pre-orders
Happy Hacking
Post by: bartdesign on January 06, 2004, 10:38:00 PM
I hate the ugly switches. Xenium OS BjB
Post by: gOoBaLL on January 06, 2004, 11:39:00 PM
Personally, I don't mind it. If loading XoS is the only trade-off in moving everything to being solely software controlled then I'm happy.
The thing I'm wondering about, though, is the amount of time it actually takes XoS to load. i.e. if you set 'bios load delay to 0, how much longer will it take to boot into games?
Good to see things such as dvd region changing being so seamlessly integrated, though.
Post by: swolsten on January 07, 2004, 12:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (gOoBaLL @ Jan 7 2004, 08:39 AM) |
| Personally, I don't mind it. If loading XoS is the only trade-off in moving everything to being solely software controlled then I'm happy. The thing I'm wondering about, though, is the amount of time it actually takes XoS to load. i.e. if you set 'bios load delay to 0, how much longer will it take to boot into games? |
The OS is loaded from flash rom and has a max size of 1MB, a bit like the cromwell flash bios (althought thats only 256k). I cant see it taking that much longer to boot than a normal bios, its not like you need to mount any drives or init many hardware devices, all you need is screen, joypad and the flash rom its self.
Who knows what will be added to with XeniumOS in the future, still think its one of the best mod concepts around.
Post by: gOoBaLL on January 07, 2004, 02:27:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Hopefully it loads as quickly as the Cromwell BIOS. Damn that thing loads fast! The bootscreen seems to appear even before my finger has left the power button! |
I hope that's the case, and I'm pretty sure it will be. The review led me to believe (due to it listing loading time as a con) that it would be signficantly longer.
I think I'll try and contact the review author to get a clarification....
Post by: Puckster069 on January 07, 2004, 10:09:00 AM
Post by: swolsten on January 07, 2004, 03:03:00 PM
I am convinced that even if the XeniumOS does add a few seconds to the boot time it is well worth the sacrifice. And I think everyone should remember that this review is of a pre-production sample with a beta XeniumOS, I am sure that when the final release comes out it will have some extra features. Best of all we can always upgrade the XeniumOS as many times as we want to keep adding new stuff.
Post by: LepPpeR on December 26, 2003, 03:55:00 PM
The following is a brief description of the componentry found on the XENIUM as seen in the recently released sneak preview photos.
* Removable D0 Connector - This connector and wire loom will allow the modchip to be removed without any desoldering when installed using the Pin Header option.
* Quick Solder + Wire Install - The XENIUM is able to be soldered directly onto the LPC bus by using the Quick Solder installation method, larger solder pads also cater for those users who wish to install the XENIUM using wires.
* Power (V1.5) - Primerily to be used for the solderless install of the Xenium into v1.5 consoles.
* Pin Header (+ D0 Control) - Female socket for the optional Pin Header or Solderless Adaptor installation methods.
* Emergency System Recovery - The XENIUM will never be rendered useless as a result of a bad flash or bad update, the flick of a switch to enable the XENIUM's inbuilt recovery mode. A solder pad on the underside of the device allows for easy installation of an optional external switch.
* Expansion Port, RGB LED & Dual SPI - Unlimited upgrade options are available for the XENIUM with it's dual Serial Peripheral Interface (SPI) ports. An External Tri-Color (RGB) LED can also be installed for monitoring the XENIUM's Status.
* Controller - CPLD Controller.
* Status LED - Programmable ultra bright Tri-Color (RGB) Status LED.
* 2Meg Memory - 2Mb Flash Memory for a variety of different bios sizes.
[/QUOTE]
Official Site: http://www.ozxodus.com
Post by: heinrich on December 26, 2003, 04:00:00 PM
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Post by: MyUtopia on December 26, 2003, 09:28:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| I wonder why this chip is considered to be a 4th gen modchip? Has anyone heard about what features it might have? I'm not sure, but... |
Expandability....
All the former chips (3rd generation and older) chips were not expandable hardware-wise (aside from the dumbest suggestion of expanding a Matrix with a Chameleon add on - LOL).
I am sure that an external LCD will be available for the Xenium as this has also been announced for the executor 3 chip. It is not very difficult to add and the feature set that would be provided with this add-on would make it an attractive option to add at a later date.
Best Regards,
MyUtopia
Post by: georgc on December 27, 2003, 01:35:00 PM
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Post by: Arakon on December 27, 2003, 03:15:00 PM
Post by: douceur on December 27, 2003, 04:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (Arakon @ Dec 27 2003, 07:15 PM) |
| it's pretty likely that the new chip supports software bank switching just like the chameleon did. |
Yes, but if the booting bank were to become corrupted, wouldn't it be tough to switch by software?
Post by: SecurityGuy on December 27, 2003, 05:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (douceur @ Dec 27 2003, 08:56 PM) | ||
Yes, but if the booting bank were to become corrupted, wouldn't it be tough to switch by software? |
* Emergency System Recovery - The XENIUM will never be rendered useless as a result of a bad flash or bad update, the flick of a switch to enable the XENIUM's inbuilt recovery mode. A solder pad on the underside of the device allows for easy installation of an optional external switch.
Post by: X2Gamer on December 27, 2003, 05:57:00 PM
Post by: Perplexer on December 29, 2003, 03:16:00 AM
[edit] image problem, too lazy to fix
Post by: douceur on December 29, 2003, 11:26:00 AM
| QUOTE (Flagg3 @ Dec 29 2003, 02:22 PM) |
| Being as how the method that the Chameleon currently uses (Soft switching or changing banks based on Power/Eject press) are the most elegant already I'd be amazed if the Xenium didn't offer this method among others. Flagg |
One thing I do like, though, is the ability to do things like that before the box is ever turned on. But yes, as someone who answered me a while ago said, software switching does seem most likely. I stand corrected (for the most part).
Post by: dzv on December 29, 2003, 03:14:00 PM
Post by: douceur on December 29, 2003, 03:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (dzv @ Dec 29 2003, 07:14 PM) |
| To me, using the Power & Eject buttons to control functions of the modchip is a much nicer method than having to use a switch. I think the external switches on the X2 are extremely ugly! |
Oh, I didn't mean external switches. I meant something more along the lines of what the chameleon has already. But either way, I'm sure the Xenium will be great as-is!