Post by: Chancer on December 31, 2008, 10:55:00 AM
Don't be afraid to use a higher wattage iron to do the soldering.
most people use a 15 watt one believing low wattage is the best and it is not the case (unless the iron is a high quality brand) The solder should flow within 2 seconds of applying the iron to the joint. If it doesn't pool and flow then the iron is not hot enough.
The type of issue you are having is nearly always down to the soldering.
Post by: litspliff on January 06, 2009, 02:49:00 AM
it's a much easier connection to make, although it doesn't sound like your problem here.
listen to chancer.
reflow, check connectivity. try again.
i use a temperature adjustable soldering iron at ~335c.
that always seems to do the trick.
Post by: litspliff on January 08, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
if it's not the DVD drive, another thing you can try is to jump BT to the chip, not the eject board.
here is a pinout, jump BT to the X, and see what happens. 1's are pins, 0's are spaces.
CODE
101111
(BT) 1001X1 (D0)
(BT) 1001X1 (D0)
you're not supposed to leave the BT open,
and i know chancer is gonna flame me for this,
but if all else fails,
just unhook the BT from everything and leave it open...just to see if there's a change in behaviour.
don't leave it like that though, or you'll have problems...maybe even an angry brit knocking down your front door...
i gotta say, this really sounds like it's coming from the DVD drive.
if you don't hit the button, it loads M$ dash, correct?
that's because it's finished trying to read the DVD medium, and has decided to boot from the HD.
the freeze at the splash screen is most likely your xbox...
- waiting for you to shut the DVD tray that's already shut
- waiting for the imaginary disc to load
- going slope-faced when it looks for a dash
- freaking out negotiating a data stream with the DVD drive (but not enough to error code).
Post by: Chancer on January 09, 2009, 12:57:00 PM
Did you reflow the LPC pins? (most likely cause)
Do you have any pics of the work.
Presumably the box worked before you installed the chip so it is something related to what you have done.
I doubt the DVD drive would fail between being a working unit and soldering in a chip.
Post by: Chancer on January 10, 2009, 03:00:00 AM
Post by: steveo1978 on January 11, 2009, 04:26:00 PM
And what did you mean you you just pushed the chip onto the pinheader
Post by: expandingman on January 11, 2009, 05:24:00 PM
I soldered that to the motherboard. Then I just slid the chip on top of it without soldering because the chip has holes in it, and it just slides right on
Post by: deilzfcjk on January 11, 2009, 06:47:00 PM
Post by: expandingman on January 13, 2009, 01:49:00 AM
Post by: steveo1978 on January 16, 2009, 10:34:00 AM
Post by: litspliff on January 16, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
you could also try swaping your ribbon cable and yellow DVD dongle, but that's kind of a long shot.
if you get it to boot off a good DVD drive, then you can boot to a slayer's disc and build your HD.
Post by: litspliff on January 16, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
just throwing shit out there.
i sell chips if you wanna try another. check out the link in my signature. very affordable.
they are duoX2, so you could just replace without any fucking around.
Post by: Chancer on January 17, 2009, 12:56:00 PM
This was so common it is unbelievable a few years ago.
Post by: deilzfcjk on January 17, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
Post by: deilzfcjk on January 17, 2009, 10:26:00 PM
QUOTE(expandingman @ Jan 17 2009, 07:54 PM) 
Yeah I realize that modding an xbox is no longer what's hot in the streets. I just need to be able to install a new hard drive because the factory one went kaputz so that's why I'm chipping.
Here are the pics
http://homepage.mac..../xbox_front.JPG
http://homepage.mac....s/xbox_back.JPG
http://homepage.mac....s/xbox_chip.JPG
You can't do it like that! The female header socket can't be solder to the motherboard. The pins are too short. There's your problem. You have it reversed. The part that you soldered ot the chip needs to be in the motherboard. But given you're able to boot once in a while was surprising to me. Anyways if you want to just leave it like that.....then fix up the soldering a bid on the underside of the mother board.
We're not saying something bad about you wanting to explore....just that it was a common source of problems back in the day of xbox modding. Hey we were all noobs at one time or another. You will learn from this experience that's all.
Post by: _GhOsT_ on January 18, 2009, 03:19:00 AM
this may help
Post by: Chancer on January 18, 2009, 07:43:00 AM
The soldering needs correctly reflowing on the LPC. this is definitely down to the LPC install.
Be careful removing the female header now as you can easily damage the LPC
Post by: litspliff on January 18, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
dude, that shit is ugly.
first, what's the deal with the white wire on the back? if you need it, clean it up. that shit looks horribile. i don't even know what you're trying to do there. did you kill a trace?
the D0 connection is crap. your D0 wire has so much insulation missing it could be crossing with any of those points in the area back there. cut the wire so it's only stripped back barely enough to make the connection.
your pinheader (male on the chip)...needs to be removed. sorry i said it was okay earlier. the pins are all uneven, and that's gonna cause problems. your pins need to be even so they all sit proper. you can do this by wicking out the solder and just starting over fresh. do not install the male pinheader on your mobo looking like this. the male pins must be even.
the LPC isn't as bad as i expected, but it's still bad. clean all the flux off with 91% isopropyl (and don't apply power until it's bone dry). and take some new pictures with the pinheaders in the new locations.
Post by: litspliff on January 18, 2009, 05:13:00 PM
get it cleaned up and ready for the fresh chip.
Post by: deilzfcjk on January 18, 2009, 09:57:00 PM
QUOTE(deilzfcjk @ Jan 17 2009, 03:01 PM)
The days of xbox modding are pretty much gone. I'm glad I was able to take part. Hehe. It was very enjoyable. I liked it alot...thanks to you Chancer. You provided much insight.
QUOTE(litspliff @ Jan 18 2009, 02:38 PM)
first of all....
it doesn't matter which pinheader is on which side.
i don't want to say you wasted 4 hours, but you kinda did.
it really doesn't matter if your connections are solid.
the way you did it is bad form, but it's perfectly valid.
oh well. move on from here. you're in the same place you were before.
sorry, i should have said something before. i left it to the rest of these guys to say and nobody did.
second. i don't want to hear criticism about how "modding is dead". i sold almost 1000 duoX2's this year. go tell them xbox modding is dead. why would you even make the comment? a comment like this has no place in a technical support forum.
Firstly, look at my post! Please tell me where it says, xbox modding is dead?
If, you sold 1000 duoX2's good for you....you don't have to brag.
Secondly, in response to these words by you.
CODE
why would you even make the comment? a comment like this has no place in a technical support forum.
I said that xbox modding is pretty much gone only because I was making an addition to what Chancer said. He was saying how just a few years ago that the type of mistake by expandingman was common place.
I give you props for selling modchips that contain no bios. You are doing a very smart thing. I never meant to step on no ones toes. I even sent a former customer your way. I sent uberdeev your way. I know he bought from you too. I saw him leave you a feedback on your thread. I didn't have anymore duoX2's.
I really wasn't focusing on selling duoX2's.
Litspliff, I don't want beef with you! We cool
Peace out!
Post by: litspliff on January 19, 2009, 05:29:00 AM
QUOTE(deilzfcjk @ Jan 18 2009, 11:33 PM)
Firstly, look at my post! Please tell me where it says, xbox modding is dead?
If, you sold 1000 duoX2's good for you....you don't have to brag.
Secondly, in response to these words by you.
CODE
why would you even make the comment? a comment like this has no place in a technical support forum.
I said that xbox modding is pretty much gone only because I was making an addition to what Chancer said. He was saying how just a few years ago that the type of mistake by expandingman was common place.
I give you props for selling modchips that contain no bios. You are doing a very smart thing. I never meant to step on no ones toes. I even sent a former customer your way. I sent uberdeev your way. I know he bought from you too. I saw him leave you a feedback on your thread. I didn't have anymore duoX2's.
I really wasn't focusing on selling duoX2's.
Litspliff, I don't want beef with you! We cool
Peace out!
no bragging, i'm not getting rich over here. in fact, i don't really make any money worth mentioning off of them. i'm just trying to spread the disease, if you know what i mean. one day my source dried up, so i became the new source. nothing more.
who's got beef? nobody here. i think you are taking this the wrong way. it's cool dude. chill.
thanks for the referral, also. i'm just saying that xbox modding is alive and well. many people are getting into it for the first time now that killing an xbox won't set you back an entire paycheck. a 50$ fuck up is way softer than a 100$ fuck up, so in that respect, a lot of people that stayed away before, are just now getting into it.
i wasn't calling you an asshole, i just think you are wrong about that specific statement. we can disagree and still be friends. and much love for sending people my way. did you sell chips at one point? i kinda got that impression from your "I never meant to step on no ones toes" comment. if so, the scene owes you props for bringing the goods, and you get mad props from me for helping this dude out with his mod-gone-wrong.
anyway, this is the wrong place to debate the state of modding xboxes. maybe we can debate that on a different forum in a civilized manner.
expanding:
your chip is ready to go, but i can't ship on a holiday, so it'll go out on tuesday.
in the mean time work on what we talked about, and be gentle with that board, as it's been through quite a bit already.
you'll get a new pinheader set with the new chip, so if you clear the solder from the LPC, all you'll have to do is drop the fresh pinheader in and flow fresh solder.
you will have two banks you can boot off of, and they give you some diagnostic information on boot which may be useful if your problem is not with the LPC.
Post by: litspliff on January 24, 2009, 03:01:00 AM
Post by: deilzfcjk on January 24, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
I probably only sold 10 duoX2's during my modding days. I sold alot more aladdin XT/Xeno Fx and Xchanger1.2's back in the day. It's all good brother.
@ expandingman
I hope you have some good tools at your disposal. Get out the magnifying glass and some isopropyl alcohol. When rebuilding traces you need some sort of fiberglass pen, alot of rosin core flux, and patience. The isopropyl is to remove the excess flux. You want to use as little flux as possible, but an ample amount is necessary to rebuild traces. You have to run jumper wires from point a to point b. It's the "in between" that you may have to strip back some of the lacquer enamel on the traces to get a hold. Good luck bro.
Post by: litspliff on January 24, 2009, 09:55:00 PM
or you can try this, using the topside D0...
Post by: expandingman on January 24, 2009, 11:50:00 PM