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Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 03, 2006, 03:16:00 PM
Right, firstly I have read s much of this site but I think I've reached overload.

I have a DuoX2 white installed and each bank looks fine (Cromwell and Flash 3.0.3)

What now?
Sounds like a proper noob question but I'm lost!

I have Slayers ready but firstly I need some help with what order to be doing things.

1) Do I now need to flash BIOS? If so, which bank, with what and how?
      I have tried flashing in Flash 3.0.3 but I keep getting "unknown flash! Halting" but I'm sure I'm using proper   flash file

2) Do I just burn Slayers to a DVD (is DVD+R and +RW ok) and boot then I use menu to install features?

3) Whats the use of having 2 BIOS banks?

Cheers for the help!
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 03, 2006, 05:07:00 PM
I've tried that link before and it's been so helpful but I keep getting this screen

IPB Image

which is
QUOTE
This is what happens if your X3 has its flash protection enabled. You wont
be able to update anything at this stage. You need to make sure the flash
protection is set to off on the mod and on the switch if you have it connected.
You will need to start over from the beginning.


Is this right?
If so how do I unprotect?
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: smokingmods on January 03, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
burning a bios disc sux, if you have a router and a cable just select network flash and do it like that, way easier then screwing with trying to find medial your xbox will read well. in fact in my opinion a good enough reason to get dsl LOL, just so you can have high speed and a router to get to your xbox mods
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 04, 2006, 03:11:00 AM
Thanks for all your help people.

Dummy file created
DUMMY.BIN (100mb)

Network flash attempted on Flash 3.0.3 (don't know how to do Cromwell) and get same message as above

I'm using a 512K BIOS as stated in the guide.

I do consider myself to know enough because I have been reading site for over a month but this has just thrown me
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: HackDaBox on January 04, 2006, 04:59:00 AM

Hello there ...

Does your duox2 have gold BT and D0 pads ? if not then it's a clone chip that has been poorly created. The idiots that made it did not flash it with a version of flashbios that can flash the included flashrom.

To flash a duox2 clone you will have to use CROMWELL and it doesn't have http flashing so you will have to use discs.

HackDaBox !

PS check out my website for loads of duox2 info !



Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 04, 2006, 01:52:00 PM
Cheers HackDaBox

I can't check chip as it's now soldered but using the info on your site I've looked at the AMD chip and can see a small AMD symbol, AMD and AM29F080B, there's other numbers but harder to make out.

I've used the Eurasia Generic Pro Flash Disc 1.2 which works.........but when it asks for a BIOS I put my BIOS CD in but then it displays the following

UNKNOWN DEVICE red only manf=0xFF, dev=0xFF
Try adding device ID to raincoat.cfg

Any other boot CD I make isn't working!

Is there a flash protect on the chip?
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: novakpower on January 04, 2006, 02:40:00 PM
Sounds like your chip is a real one.  The two banks are nice to have, you switch to the other bank just before you flash so you can keep your current bank for a backup.  Honestly if you can hook the xbox up to a DHCP router and http flash from the PC it you would save yourself the headaches.  Also I assume your trying to flash it with a X2 bios resized to 512k if its a version 1.0-1.5 box.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 04, 2006, 03:06:00 PM
I am using x2.4981.06.bin which is 512K for my 1.3 xbox

I have tried flashing via HTTP on Bank 1 which has Flah 3.0.3 but I get the screen I posted above, have no idea how to flash the Cromwell

Also my xbox connects direct to pc
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 05, 2006, 03:01:00 AM
Only with the Flash 3.0.3 on bank 1

It displays the IP address so I input to PC and I get the flash screen, I locate the BIOS I want to use but I still get this screen
IPB Image
(but with 512K)

Not sure about doing HTTP flasing on cromwell as when I select the Network flash option I starts looking for DCHP then nothing happens.

I have only ever had the Eurasia CD boot but get an "error" as stated in previous post.

Why won;t it work!!!
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 05, 2006, 06:25:00 AM
Just found this
http://www.duomodchi...ish/install.htm

QUOTE
What do I have to add to evox.ini?
- The latest version of EvolutionX should already contain the relevant information.

ie.
0x01d5,"AMD - Am29F080B",0x100000
0x04d5,"FUJITSU - MBM29F080A",0x100000
0xadd5," HYUNDAI - HY29F080",0x100000


In a previous post I stated the Eurasia says UNKNOWN DEVICE, adding this to something would help??
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: HackDaBox on January 05, 2006, 07:01:00 AM
You need to double check your install. You see when it says manf=0xFF, dev=0xFF then it's reading nuthing at all !

You may have some dodgy soldered connections. Just re-heat each of the connections on the male pinheader and the female pin header thats soldered onto the duox2.

Re-test the flashing again after re-soldering. If it still doesn't work then please post some pics if you can !

HackDaBox !
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 05, 2006, 08:27:00 AM
Thanks again!

Will do, but how does it boot into a BIOS if it's not detecting?
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 05, 2006, 03:48:00 PM
I have resoldered all connections

FlashBios on startup shows manf=9xFF, dev=0xFF
But as stated when boot with Eurasia when it tries to flash i get UNKNOWN DEVICE red only manf=9xFF, dev=0xFF, Try adding device ID to raincoat.cfg

I noticed with Eurasia that the AMD AM29F080B is stated in the list of chips to flash which is on my chip so it should work

I have a smasung DVD andtried booting with Eurasia on a Smasung CD-R which works, BIOS cd's are detected in Flash 3.0.3 and Eurasia but still gettingthe problems stated.

Here's a bunch of pics showing the install and pin header
Pics
I removed a pin near label "LPC DEBUG" and the 3 on the chip header.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: gjm on January 05, 2006, 04:32:00 PM
Will help to see the LPC connections on the bottom of the motherboard too..
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: novakpower on January 05, 2006, 04:34:00 PM
By the pictures you provided I think you may have a clone chip.  I have never seen the switch blue before and usually the writing on the PCB is gold not black.  A few words of advice, you may want to use a 26-30gauge wire for the install.  The wire your using is way to thick.

 Also taking a good picture of the lpc from the bottom of the board this will shed some light on possible LPC connection problems.

If its a clone ask Hack about flashing them, I think you need to use a 256k bios and add a flash type to the .ini for the chip.  You should try to see if the smaller AMD bios writing looks like it was added in a clever way.  Most of the clones try to sand the surface down, repaint it black and then add the AMD in white.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 06, 2006, 03:35:00 AM
I can get some pics but digicam can't get any good close up pics.

Never noticed about different switch (but they might have just changed supplier), everything else about chip seems ok, can't see anything to lead towards it being a clone.

I have tried 256K BIOS but no luck.

If chip is a clone, can I still use it and how would I find out the type and add to INI?

I have tried switching banks before flashing but no luck there.

All help is being appreciated guys.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 06, 2006, 12:56:00 PM
Have added some more pics
Pics
Also, I decided to scrap the AMD chip to see the writing fully, a bit of black scrapped off too but heres the info on chip, I can't see any marks being hidden and I can feel the writing on the chip

((amd logo)) AM29F080B
-90EC
0211GBB K
© 1997 amd



Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 06, 2006, 02:40:00 PM
FlashBios 3.0.3 is getting chip as manf=0x09 dev=0x00
whats this mean?

IPB Image
But mine doesn't say READ ONLY ??

I've rewired D0 and BT with thiner wire
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: novakpower on January 06, 2006, 05:47:00 PM
Your LPC looks good from what I could make out in the pictures.  I hate to say it but trying another chip you know that is working may be your best option.  You already tried to flash it using the HTTP method and it failed as it started to initialize.  If you dont have an extra chip, try a Sunday chip from Hippo.  Hes the designer and sells them in the US.  His support is rock solid.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: hippo on January 06, 2006, 05:48:00 PM
If the chip boots reliably 10 times in a row and you get that each time it's a bum chip that get's confused between flash core space and register space. I make this assumption because 0x09 and 0x00 are the first two bytes you'll find at 0x ff00 000 and   0x ff00 0001 for most bios.

If the chip ever mis-boots there is a bad connection that wont allow verification of the SDPC during flash.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 06, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
Bummer!

Unfortunatly don't know anyone with a DuoX2 let alone a modded xbox.
Is it worth getting trying the blue chip?

Sunday Chip?

It's never mis booted
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: novakpower on January 06, 2006, 06:04:00 PM
I'm going to say go for the Sunday chip from Hippo.  The link is in his sig.  I've used eight of his chips in all the various version xboxes, and they all perform flawlessly.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 06, 2006, 06:43:00 PM
I live in the UK though

Is it worth getting a more pricier chip?
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: HackDaBox on January 07, 2006, 04:32:00 AM


Hi Guys,

I have never seen a blue switch on any duox2 modchip clone or original so i am very suspicious of it being an original. But even if it is a clone thats not your problem. The error you are getting tells me that it's not installed correctly. Please re-flow each and every solder point on the bottom of the lpc and the top of the duox2 modchip. It's not a clone issue , it's a no connection issue !

You can get a sunday chip from hippo or get anoher duox2 , it doesn't matter which for if the new chip works then your old duox2 white was faulty. If the new one doesn't work then you still need to fix your lpc !

HackDaBox !
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 07, 2006, 09:14:00 PM
Well, in my slighty stressed mode today I think I broke chip but not too bothered as weren't working.

Is the Aladdin chip any good or am I just being silly going for cheap chips?
The xbox will mainly replace the PC's function of video and audio player and obviously play stored games off HD.
Don't need fancy X3 LCD's etc
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: HackDaBox on January 07, 2006, 09:45:00 PM

Stay away from aladdins as they have issues booting on V1.6 consoles. No you dont need to stay away from cheap chips i have installed heaps of duox2's and they all work fine ! You could have the same problem with a X3 if the install is to blame !

Get a blue duox2 or a sunday chip and see if it works. These cheap chips work fantastic when installed and flashed correctly.

HackDaBox !
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 08, 2006, 07:16:00 AM
Excellent, anyone recommend a reliable UK place to buy a blue DuoX2, don't fancy using same place again.  Would the site that sold me the chip know it's a clone?
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: Chancer on January 08, 2006, 08:58:00 AM
If you live in the UK. I will hotswap your chip and flash it for you. All it will cost is the stamped addressed jiffy bag to get it back to you.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 09, 2006, 02:05:00 AM
Cheers chancer!
Brought chip into work due to it not working, appears that during my resoldering I've knocked a pin on the little square chip so it's being repaired.
I will test again tonight see if it's still alive, will try flash few times more, if no luck will take you up on that Chancer
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 09, 2006, 02:29:00 PM
As Dr Frankenstein once said

"It's alive"

Chip had solder bridges so lovely lady at work removed xlink chip I think it was and resoldered on (did have one more but she's showed me how to solve it)

Also, the guys at work who to the chip re-programming had a look and said the chip is right one specified from what they see of them (which is loads), so doesn't appear to be a clone but if it was and having trouble flashing they can identify chip and flash with the progrmmer machine.

But gladly I've managed to flash with the 512K x2.4981.06.bin and am now running Slayers EvoX

Plan to mess about with that but will probably end up posting about something else, huge thanks for all the help and offers, hope to return the favour.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: HMAWL411 on January 09, 2006, 07:56:00 PM
instead of starting another thread since this is about bios banks and flashing ill just ask it here, unless someone wants me to make a new thread.

1. bank 0 is for 1.0-1.5 xboxs and has cromwell on it correct.

2. bank 1 is for 1.6 xboxs and has flashbios on it correct.

3. so if i wanted to flash bank 1 since i have a 1.0 xbox i would bootup with it on bank 0 go through all the steps up until flash bios then switch it to bank 1 and choose flash so that i would then have cromwell on bank 0 and whatever bios i use on bank 1.

am i correct in all of this, also what would the best bios be for a 1.0 xbox on a duo x2 white.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: novakpower on January 09, 2006, 09:26:00 PM
Your steps for flashing are sound. Make sure to use the flashbios bank, its the easiest, then switch to the other bank just before you flash to save it.  Use the X2_4981.06 bios for your 1.0 box, and make sure you size it to 512k.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: gjm on January 10, 2006, 06:06:00 AM
QUOTE(HMAWL411 @ Jan 10 2006, 03:03 AM) View Post

1. bank 0 is for 1.0-1.5 xboxs and has cromwell on it correct.

2. bank 1 is for 1.6 xboxs and has flashbios on it correct.

3. so if i wanted to flash bank 1 since i have a 1.0 xbox i would bootup with it on bank 0 go through all the steps up until flash bios then switch it to bank 1 and choose flash so that i would then have cromwell on bank 0 and whatever bios i use on bank 1.

am i correct in all of this, also what would the best bios be for a 1.0 xbox on a duo x2 white.


This isn't quite correct. With respect to the DuoX2 whites, in general, it is easier to always use Flashbios (bank 1) as it supports network flashing etc. On version 1.6 xbox's sometimes Flashbios can have trouble booting, this is why Cromwell is supplied on bank 0.

- Bank 0 = Cromwell: works on all Xbox versions but slightly less convenient
- Bank 1 = Flashbios: works on all Xbox versions but has occasional problems on v1.6.

So i would boot up with bank 1 (flashbios), and overwrite the contents of bank 0. Then you always have access to Flashbios in future. I would only ever boot with bank 0 (cromwell) if i had trouble booting bank 1 (should only ever happen with some 1.6's).

Common bios reccommendations:
Xbox V1.0 - V1.5 use X2 4981.06 bios (512k)
Xbox V1.6 - V1.6b use Evox M8 Plus V1.6 bios (512k)
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: HMAWL411 on January 10, 2006, 12:53:00 PM
so i basically had it backwards, in regard to the flashing process i had the version stuff all screwed up. so i should bootup on bank 1 and choost http flash or whatever type in the ip and look for the bios, then before i hit flash i should move the switch to bank 0 then hit flash so that it flash's bank 0 and i still have http flashing with bank 1 and flashbios should bank 0 ever become corrupted
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: gjm on January 10, 2006, 04:35:00 PM
Yep boot up Flashbios, then flick the switch and overwrite the other bank. Use something non-metal to flick the switch and keep your hands away from the power supply!
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: HMAWL411 on January 10, 2006, 06:18:00 PM
cool, well i already have the lpc holes desoldered, my chip should be here around friday, hopefully i wont screw something up trying to solder in the pin header or the d0
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: HMAWL411 on January 15, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
well i started flashing the bios at 7:30 and its still loading and its just showing the flashbios screen on the xbox. i  shouldnt close the tab should i, how long does it usually take?

also, the led on the chip is flashing red, i didnt pay too much attention to it since it loaded up the cromwell and the flashbios screens but is it supposed to be flashing red?

it just finished, does it usually take an hour and a half, im gonna check in a couple of minutes to see if it worked, the tv its on is in the livingroom and im gonna have to wait until a commercial is on, since my parents are watching some show
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: Chancer on January 16, 2006, 08:55:00 AM
QUOTE
 t just finished, does it usually take an hour and a half

It should only take a few minutes.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: gjm on January 22, 2006, 04:54:00 AM
cd /path/to/your/bios/file
cat bios_256k.bin bios_256k.bin > bios_512k.bin


This will leave you with a 512k BIOS image. I have tested this process on a linux box and byte-for-byte the file seems fine when compared with a 512k BIOS i created using other methods. I would definitely recommend that you boot up from one bank, and then before you flash - flick the switch (with something non-metal) to the OTHER bank and flash over that, so you can have another go if the resize above doesn't work. Let us know how you get on.
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: appleguru on January 22, 2006, 08:31:00 AM
QUOTE(gjm @ Jan 22 2006, 07:01 AM) View Post

Well i dont know OSX but i'm sure it has a UNIX style command shell.. And i'll be amazed it you don't have the 'cat' command installed. That command concatenates (joins) files. So that will resize your BIOS for you..

Go to your command shell, you'll need to know the directory which your bios file is in (i will asume it's called bios_256k.bin) and type the following commands:

cd /path/to/your/bios/file
cat bios_256k.bin bios_256k.bin > bios_512k.bin


This will leave you with a 512k BIOS image. I have tested this process on a linux box and byte-for-byte the file seems fine when compared with a 512k BIOS i created using other methods. I would definitely recommend that you boot up from one bank, and then before you flash - flick the switch (with something non-metal) to the OTHER bank and flash over that, so you can have another go if the resize above doesn't work. Let us know how you get on.



BTW, yes, that works just fine on OS X wink.gif (How I resize bioses actually.. heh)
Title: Duo2 Fashing Help
Post by: Distrt on January 22, 2006, 12:12:00 PM
Awesome, I'll definitly try that out and post what happens.

After this is all said and done, I'm definitly making a tutorial for Mac users on how to get this cheapmod to work.