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Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 27, 2005, 10:23:00 AM
If Bank 1 is proving unsuccesful boot bank 0 and try eurasia to flash with.
make sure the chip is not a clone. Make sure your bios file is labeled bios.bin
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 27, 2005, 10:32:00 AM

http://members.lycos...2_Flashing.html

This guide will help you ...

HackDaBox !

Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: kingNOTHING42 on May 27, 2005, 10:47:00 PM
Ill try this stuff tomorrow when I'm more alert.  I was at my friend's playing halo all day cuz my box is obviously not working.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 28, 2005, 04:08:00 AM
QUOTE
Hey, on that guide it says that the DuoX2 needs bioses that are 256K, it should be 512K.

The information is referring to flashing via evox because evox automatically resizes the bios file. So with evox 256k can indeed be used.
Using a bios disc the size has to be 512k as it does with eurasia and other flash apps that do not resize the bios
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 06:27:00 AM
Make sure the flash IDs for the chip are in the first 13 lines of the raincoat.cfg file.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 08:33:00 AM
Flash = 0xbf52,"Spiderchip",0x40000
Flash = 0xbf10,"SST 29EE020",0x40000
Flash = 0xbf12,"SST 29LE020/29VE020",0x40000
Flash = 0xbfd6,"SST 39LF020/39VF020",0x40000
Flash = 0xbfb6,"SST 39SF020A",0x40000
Flash = 0xbf57,"SST 49LF002A",0x40000
Flash = 0xbf61,"SST 49LF020",0x40000
Flash = 0xbf52,"SST 49LF020A",0x40000
flash = 0x01d5,"AMD - Am29F080B",0x100000;
flash = 0x04d5,"FUJITSU - MBM29F080A",0x100000;
flash = 0xadd5,"Hynix - HY29F080",0x100000;
flash = 0x20f1,"ST - M29F080A",0x100000;
flash = 0xbf61,"SST SST49LF020",0x40000;
flash = 0x89a6,"Sharp LHF08CH1",0x100000;
flash = 0xda8c,"Winbond W49F020",0x40000;
flash = 0x01a4,"AMD - Am29F040B",0x80000;
flash = 0xda0b,"Winbond - W49F002U",0x40000;
flash = 0xc236,"MACRONIX - MX29F022NTPC",0x40000;
flash = 0x20b0,"ST M29f002BT",0x40000;
flash = 0x01da,"AMD - Am29LV800B",0x100000;
flash = 0x04a4,"FUJITSU - MBM29F040C",0x80000;
flash = 0xadb0,"Hynix - HY29F002TT-90",0x40000;

Copy and paste this into notepad. save as raincoat.cfg  The file extension must be cfg
this goes on the bios disc not on the flash disc. So it goes with your bios.bin file.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 29, 2005, 08:44:00 AM

Chnacer is correct but none of this is needed ! i have prepared everything for you !

All you need to do is either grab

Flash Disc for xbox v1.0 - V1.5 or
Flash Disc 16 for Xbox V1.6

and burn eurasia to a cdrw and the correct flash disc for your console to another cdrw and no editing is needed and it's all in the link i sent you before ...

If you can't follow my guide then you will have no hope flashing your chip as it dont get any easier !

HackDaBox !

http://members.lycos...2_Flashing.html

Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
Hi HackdaBox. how did I forget that you already had these done.Must have been half asleep.
defo use hackDaBox pre prepared stuff the files are accurate and evrything. I can vouch for it as I have used them on many occasions. beerchug.gif
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: kingNOTHING42 on May 29, 2005, 11:31:00 AM
Here, I just went ahead and did it.

UNKNOWN DEVICE Read Only???  manf=0x09, dev=0x00
Try adding the device ID to  raincoat.cfg

And it lists the codes that I put in the raincoat.cfg from Chancer's post above that, I put in the ones from the first mention of AMD, down since my chip says AMD on the top.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
The raincoat.cfg does not go on the flashdisc but on the bios disc. It would seem your chip is not listed in the cfg file built in to the eurasia flashdisc so it tells yuo to insert the bios disc. when you put in the bios disc it looks then for the device id in the raincoat.cfg file on the bios disc.
The exact wording may help in this case.
Do you put in the bios disc when the drawer opens after the "Flashing will continue" message?
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 01:36:00 PM
So it loads the eurasia flash disc ok but fails to load the actual bios disc? Even the one with the raincoat.cfg on it?
If it still does not accept the flash from the bios disc with the raincoat file on as well as the bios then the problem is either in the way you are making the bios disc or the chip could be a clone with a flashrom thats not recognised
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
So your bios disc has bios.bin (your 512K hacked Bios) raincoat.cfg (the list of flash iDs) and a dummy file and you burnaed this as  a regular data disc.
If this is a yes to all the above then check the chip carefully because the only whites that were giving the problem have all turned out to be clones. They are usually quite obvious though so its unlikely. (Silver contacts, poor quality writing) Flashrom type sanded off under the AMD logo.
The other choices now are try a hotswap or flash it in another box with Flashbios 3.03 bank. If both these options produce a failed flash then return the chip for replacement
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
You seem to have gone through everything correctly and you have more than tried all ways to get it to work as it should. If you have another chip i would fit that but you certainly want  the non flashable one you have now exchanging by the supplier.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: appleguru on May 29, 2005, 02:24:00 PM
Hmm.. I'm willing to bet you have a bad solder point on LPC that's letting the chip load a bios (flashbios, cromwell), but not letting you flash over it... Check your soldering nd try again.. If that fails then by all means exchange the chip.. it just seems odd to me that a chip without flash protection would load a bios but not be able to be reflashable...
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 02:32:00 PM
Chip looks genuine. definiteley go with the resolder as advised by appleguru. You need to exhaust all possibilities first.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 29, 2005, 03:59:00 PM
This will need to be repaired by bridging the traces with kynar wire before you can go on now. The solder should flow easily unless your iron is too low powered (15watts). The top D0  trace has to be bridged to the bottom with wire and the other point you damaged repaired as well
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: hippo on May 29, 2005, 05:38:00 PM
Get kynar wire cat. number 278-501, it's 30 gauge silver plated kynar wire wrap. Also consider sending to someone comfortable linking traces.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: cubistproject on May 29, 2005, 09:14:00 PM
I have the same 'flash not writable' problems with the white clones. They flash fine via EvoX. Not too sure about eurasia - I'm using a 1.6b and cromwell won't boot.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 30, 2005, 06:55:00 AM

HackDaBox needs your help !

 Please flash a clone duox2 chip using EVOX and write down the flash ID's for me and post the info here ...

 My original Blue Duo X2 says

 Manufacturers ID 04 Device ID d5
 Flash Type FUJITSU - MBM29F080A

I will then update Eurasia to flash these babies without hassles !

HackDaBox !


Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 30, 2005, 08:02:00 AM
beerchug.gif

Other wise do the same for the top D0 and solder a piece of wire from the top d0 to the bottom d0.

Remember you can allways take it to a pro and get them to fix this little problem.

HackDaBox !

PS i dont think you did anything wrong while trying to flash your chip using eurasia , it may be case that the clones are using a different flashrom and just writing AMD on it as eurasia and flashbios both support AMD flashroms without having to add any lines , they are internally supported.

Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 30, 2005, 04:05:00 PM

OK so you have repaired the trace damage ? looks like to have fixed 2 broken traces ? i can't see the pics very good. Do you have D0 going to the chip ?

Does the chip boot to cromwell bios with power button ?

Does the chip boot to MS DASH with eject button ?

If yes then dont do anymore soldering , let me try and work out what the flashing issue is with these beasts !

Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: kingNOTHING42 on May 30, 2005, 05:17:00 PM
I took the mobo outside for better light and took some MUCH better pictures, so you can check those out if you wanted a better look at it.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 30, 2005, 05:40:00 PM
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Congrats on a good job ... a l ot of people would not have been able to fix trace damage themselves smile.gif

Don't even look at your install anymore and i will try to sort out the flashing issue.

One last question ... Why didn't you use the pinheader set ? It makes it easier !

HackDaBox !

Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 30, 2005, 06:29:00 PM

Sorry to hear about thumb !

The male pin header gets soldered to the mobo ( easy ) and the female one gets soldered to the chip ( easy ) and then the connections are very good and its easy to remove the chip if you should need to. It's also brilliant for hotswapping ! Next time use the pinheader sets !

Can you take it outside ione last time and tell me all the printed info on the chip ?

It will have AMD written in large white letters but it should have some other little letters written in black ( hard to read ) and i need to know what they are !

HackDaBox !

Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: cubistproject on May 30, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
That's a real DuoX2 - I can see the AMD logo from the pic.

If your install is right, you will have no problems flashing.

PS: Hack da Box, the clones have the ST M29F080A flashroms. Didn't look at the ID via evox - just read off of the chip :-P I can find the other info if you like, but it's prolly already on your disc.

It's SUPPOSED to be supported by flashbios too (Says Team Xecuter), but... it doesn't work!!!

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Ooh - look at the wires soldered to the chip. You've got some problems there. Use some flux to make baby bottom smooth solder points.

You need alot more solder on the pinheader install. Those don't look like thier making contact at all. I don't know what to say.

I wish I could just pull the mobo out of the screen and take it into the shop.

You may want to trim the exposed wire down - you barely need any exposed wire.

Good luck! I really hope you get this booting. I don't know where you are, but if you're around Toronto, you should come down and we'll get you fixed up (I'll help you free of charge)
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 30, 2005, 07:14:00 PM
Cubist,

When you tried to flash with flashbios / cromwell & eurasia  what error did you get BIOS FOUND but not supported ?

 Yeah dig up the info for me ... i just wanna make 100% sure i have all the codes for flashing.

 You said it flashed ok in evox. Can you post the flash section of the evox.ini you are using to flash those clones with the ST M29F080A flashroms ?

kingNOTHING42,

 If we can't find anything wrong with the flashing your next step is to remove the wires from the chip and fit those headerpins as they are a better connection and will rule out any lpc connection problems !

HackDaBox !
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: cubistproject on May 30, 2005, 07:24:00 PM
Hey HackDaBox - I just remembered - It DID flash fine in eurasia - I did the X2 5xxx tests with eurasia.

It said 'flash not recognized' or some shit when I tried in flashbios.

I'll grab the flashrom info shortly and PM it to you.
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 30, 2005, 09:02:00 PM

Flux healps the solder and its in the solder anyway so you shouldn't need to add any. I really would love for you to remove the wires from the chip using solder braid / solder wick  ( tandy's ) and then solder the pinheaders in. You place the solder wick on the solder you want to remove and place the clean iron on it for a couple of seconds and the solder should run up the wick and off the job. Cut the end off once it's been used and repeat the process to clean up all the solder. Clean your iron after each joint. Your install should still work if the wires are attached properly and not touching as you have described but from the pics its hard to see as the underneath is not soldered well on the lpc area. You could first try adding some more solder to the underside lpc holes so they are soldered well with little round balls of solder.

If you wanna use the pin header follow my duox2 install guide.

http://members.lycos...x2_Install.html
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: cubistproject on May 30, 2005, 11:25:00 PM
I'm a flux junkie. I find it REALLY helps the magic happen.

If you paint a little flux on the joints you want to solder, you can close your eyes, jab around then iron, and then open your eyes. When you open your eyes, you'll be suprised to see a professional soldering job.

Look a little to the left. The burn marks and heavy corrosion are what you just did ;-)

I'm just joking. I find it does really help me now, tho, and it definately did when I was learning how to solder. It helps the solder flow away from the source of heat and onto the target joints. It's a highly corrosive acid which helps the solder 'stick' and flow as it would at very high temperatures.

Solder contains rosin in it for use as flux (rosin is an acidic solid made from pine. Good for playing the violin, too). Many people say that this is all you need, but I believe you need higher temps wothout additional flux, too.

Most people recommend against using it, but as I said, I'm a flux junkie. Your bubble-but joints would look like babies bottoms if you used a little. Just make sure you clean up with rubbing alchohol and a q-tip after.

You should be very proud of yourself for all of the work and dedication that you've poured into your xbox. I really hope that you get it working.

Good on ya.

-Jay
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Dra60nSlayer on May 31, 2005, 03:42:00 AM
I've had problems flashing a Duo X2 when having too long LPC wires... (i had an "external LPC bus" on my xbox) using a pinheader solved that problem...

i only had problem flashing... once flashed everyting worked normal...


(Try shorten your LPC wires)
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 31, 2005, 07:13:00 AM
Sorry to disagree with everyone here. But the soldering looks a problem to me. The solder does not look to have flowed correctly, the stripped wire ends (even on the repair) are far too long and could easily short out onto something else.Pins 1 and 2 on the wiring of the chip already look to be touching
maybe I looked at the wrong pictures
Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: HackDaBox on May 31, 2005, 08:31:00 AM

 Yeah i hear what your saying Chancer but did you read this ...

Cubist: the majority of the solder is on the top of the LPC and thats where the connection is. Although I admit that it is messy to the point of embarrasing, those wires are solid enough to pick up the entire mobo by individually and none of the solder joints touch each other on top. (Those connections are the first I did on the project, and my skills have improved a lot even since then!)


 I am just trying to rule out everything else and then i will ask that the install is re-done this time using the pin headers.

 HackDaBox !

Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: Chancer on May 31, 2005, 09:30:00 AM
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Title: Problem Flashing Duox2
Post by: kingNOTHING42 on May 31, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
All right guys, I see all of your points and although I'm not sure that I'm going to get to fixing all of it tonight I will get back to you when I have it all done better, get more supplies, etc.

My parents are starting to get on me about doing something else, cutting my losses(on money spent on the chip), and all that great stuff parents do.  Like you said Cubist, lots of time and energy has been spent the past three weeks on this.