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Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 20, 2005, 07:16:00 PM

Figured I would update with some pictures and what not. I have made a little progress.

The power button = mod disabled
the eject button = mod enabled

This is the reverse of what duox2 is suppose to do. No idea why. Anyhow I have installed slayers 2.6 locked hdd etc etc everything was fine I had rebooted the dash maybe 10 times testing things. All of a sudden it stopped working. I can still boot fine without the modchip into the MS bios, but with mod enabled I am getting no video on my tv. Here are soem pics of the install, looks pretty dam clean to me,

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: antz1970 on February 20, 2005, 07:44:00 PM

yep looks like the install has been fked up , he has connected the Bt point on the chip to the Bt point used by the aladdin chips , it should go to behind the eject button like shown here im not sure if the reason it aint working now is because theres maybe been some damage done to the chip , all you can do is connect Bt to the correct point and try it , id say even if you are a noob @ soldering you can make the Bt connection no problem or you could try the alternative point shown here(thanx chancer)(remember its the duox2 you have,so make sure its the alternative point for that chip u use)

p.s - excellent example of why pics of an install sometimes help to diagnose the problem  

**edit** u wanna be telling the so called "Professional installer" that he aint so "Professional "

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 20, 2005, 09:45:00 PM

Little update, I have moved my bt wire to the rear of the eject switch. The buttons now function as they are suppose to, power = mod on and eject = mod off

But iI still have a blank screen with mod enabled. Any ideas?

Works flawlessly with mod disabled i been playing nhl2005 for a couple hours, no freezes

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 20, 2005, 10:14:00 PM

another BAD update, for some reason now (without changing anything) it boots with miod enabled, mod blinks, but it boots the MS bios. Any ideas?

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: 1nick9 on February 20, 2005, 10:55:00 PM

1st off if i was u i would just send it back to him and make him pay all shipping.
my guess is that the aladdin xt 1.6 board may not b soldered on right. then i would check pinheader.

cheers

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 20, 2005, 11:08:00 PM

Thanks for the reply. The reason I think the lpc was fine because if you read my first post, the MOD worked earlier today. It just randomly stoped and wouldnt work since. I had maybe 5 reboots after installing slayers, than it just wouldnt load anymore. Now it just loads the MS bios everytime, not sure why. My xbox is now worth 650$, I have been through 2 mods, 2 mobos, 2 hard drives, plus a shitload of shipping fees, not to mention lots of time lost.

The installer said I could send it back but I would have to pay shipping both ways. Not such a good deal IMO so im trying to fix it myself I guess. Really dont wanna wait another month or more to get it back again. I first ordered my chip in OCTOBER.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: 1nick9 on February 20, 2005, 11:08:00 PM

yea i like wires for lpc rebulid

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 20, 2005, 11:13:00 PM

both banks are giving me MS bios, with mod enabled or disabled.
When enabled LED blinks but thats it.

I have m8 on bank0
cromwell on bank1

those may be reversed but I have both, unless they disapeared somehow, with my luck Id believe it.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: ckh2004 on February 20, 2005, 11:23:00 PM

Please see my edited reply above. It is definitely your LPC rebuild gone wrong.

QUOTE

My xbox is now worth 650$, I have been through 2 mods, 2 mobos, 2 hard drives, plus a shitload of shipping fees, not to mention lots of time lost.

The installer said I could send it back but I would have to pay shipping both ways. Not such a good deal IMO so im trying to fix it myself I guess. Really dont wanna wait another month or more to get it back again. I first ordered my chip in OCTOBER.

I feel sorry for you, but I am amazed that of all installers/modders, you managed to pick the right "professional"   I am only paid US$30-35 for a complete mod using DuoX 2 (included), regardless of xbox version  

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 20, 2005, 11:30:00 PM

I think I found another problem, On the duo website, their install pic shows that the chip clips into the pins and they are all covered, and 4 of the holes are still visible.
On my board as you can maybe see in my pic there are no holes ont he left side of the chip, I have pins coming out of all of those exept 1

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 20, 2005, 11:43:00 PM

Here are some picks of the pins that I was just talking about above. Hope they are clear enough for you to see.
Thanks for hellping byt he way.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 21, 2005, 12:48:00 AM

I insulated them didnt seem to do anything. Didn't really wanna mess with cutting them etc because ill proly break down and pay for more shipping to have  him fix it. I have a feeling if I start messing with it he wont do shit for me.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 21, 2005, 01:06:00 AM

QUOTE(garland990 @ Feb 21 2005, 07:54 AM)

I insulated them didnt seem to do anything. Didn't really wanna mess with cutting them etc because ill proly break down and pay for more shipping to have  him fix it. I have a feeling if I start messing with it he wont do shit for me.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: Tron[ADS] on February 21, 2005, 01:17:00 AM

QUOTE(garland990 @ Feb 21 2005, 06:36 AM)

I think I found another problem, On the duo website, their install pic shows that the chip clips into the pins and they are all covered, and 4 of the holes are still visible.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: 1nick9 on February 21, 2005, 04:03:00 AM

yep name him and make him give ur money back(take away $15 for the mod to b fair) or fix it and he pay for all shipping.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: HackDaBox on February 21, 2005, 06:57:00 AM

 Where do you live ? maybe someone can help you if your installer won't ! it's really bad reading how some installers treat their customers especially when most of us do a damn good job for a small amount of $ and we take pride in our work.

HackDaBox !

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: Chancer on February 21, 2005, 10:04:00 AM

Bite the bullet and get someone who knows what they are doing to get it working right. Its alright saying send it ot the original installer but he will most likely make it worse.
these are easy chips to install and get working. the installer is no Pro so name him in here and save someone else the misfortune of letting him mod their box.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: Perplexer on February 21, 2005, 11:14:00 AM

That LPC rebuild looks a bit spotty...  And not testing a mod once it's installed is a HUGE no-no!  ESPECIALLY if it's a mail-in mod!!

I will say, however, that there is no harm in installing the 16-pin header.  In fact, I do it as well on my Duo-X2 installs, if for some reason the customer wants to "upgrade" to an Xecuter chip in the future.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: xboxmodder4life on February 21, 2005, 04:37:00 PM

that sucks when installers screw people like that. I prefer using wires to rebuild the LPC my self. But either way it does look alittle shotty where he used the rebuild LPC board. I  be willing to fix your xbox if u'd be willing to pay shipping to me, and shipping back. Basically send me your xbox and 10$ and i'd ship the xbox back to you. I gotta alot of time on my hands lately. So if you cant get it fixed i'd glady help you out. You'd just need to send the motherboard, and chip

PM me if ur interested, because i probally wont look at the thread again

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 21, 2005, 08:24:00 PM

Ok I keep finding things that dont seem to be right....On the duo website they say to remove 2 pins from the connecter...located right next to each other(4 and 6 i assume). My board only has pins 4 and 16 missing.
I am reading the xecuter website as well and looks like I could use my x2.6 if i removed pin 6, which apparently is the same as the duo. Is pin 6 important? Can I remove a pin once its been soldered int here?

Thanks for the help guys.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: ckh2004 on February 21, 2005, 08:59:00 PM

QUOTE

On the duo website they say to remove 2 pins from the connecter..

refers to pin 3, 4 & 5 from the female pin header which is soldered to the DuoX 2 chip.

QUOTE

My board only has pins 4 and 16 missing.

refers to the male pin header which is soldered to the LPC holes on the xbox motherboard. If you use the 12-pin male pin header that comes with DuoX 2, you only have to remove pin 4 from the male pin header. However, your "professional" chose to use 16-pin male pin header (to screw you further by recommending X3 later after intentionally screwing up the DuoX 2 instal ?!?! ), so he removed the unused pin 16 which is OK.


As I said before, don't bother about the pin headers, just concentrate on redoing the LPC rebuild. Though wired LPC rebuild is more reliable / consistent, you can still repair the soldering for the LPC Rebuild PCB.

As others have mentioned, mod chip install, especially DuoX 2, on v1.6 is not difficult at all - any decent modder can make it work 100% without much difficulty. What a lame "professional" that doesn't even check his work. To me he is more like a con man than a modder!

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 21, 2005, 09:26:00 PM

Looks like I should have done it myself int he first place. I made some bigger beads of solder on the LPC points to make sure they were connecting. He actually missed soldering 1 pin (lad3), only soldered the lad not the pin. I cut off pin #6
now the duo still wont work, so i can screw it.....plug in my xecuter.....solder the grey wire from its harness to my d0 wire coming outta pin hole 16, boom first time I hit power im at flash bios on my xecuter chip. Hopefully it stays working

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: Indecline on February 21, 2005, 09:56:00 PM

The solution to all this crap is simple:  the installer amends EVERYTHING.  Nobody should claim to "professionally install" these chips, and send them mucked up-- AND expect the buyer to just fix it themselves, thats not what you paid for.  You paid money so you wouldnt have to do what you're doing.  To me, it sounds like this chump just made a good $75 off you playing around with a soldering iron.  As for him willing to fix it if you pay shipping both ways, tell him no-- he messed up-- he bites the bullet and loses money in this.  His bad, not yours.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: ahroberts on February 21, 2005, 11:18:00 PM

You are missing a wire. If the cromwell duo-x install is the same as the Duo-x 2 install, you need another wire that goes from the 4th pin down on the left to a solder point with "R7R5" or something similar to that printed next to it. Check the Duo-x 2 install diagram for the v1.6 on www.duomodchip.com and you will see what I'm talking about. I always have to add this wire with these aladdin lpc rebuild boards in order for the duo-x 2 to work reliably

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: spyman on February 21, 2005, 11:38:00 PM

yes you need to link that wire to where ahroberts said, or even pin #15 should work.

I can't believe your installer is putting you through that shit, and the quality of his work is far from professional, heck it doesnt even classify as n00b.

I see you are using the xecuter chip, now but if it does stop working, send me a PM I am located in Toronto, Canada, but I will fix it up for you free of charge, since you've been through all this shit.  I think you should name your installer though if he is off these boards so no one else gets shafted in future.

Title: Duox2 Professional Install, Doesnt Work
Post by: garland990 on February 21, 2005, 11:49:00 PM