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Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: Moleman on February 28, 2004, 01:22:00 PM
Post your thoughts on the chip.
Personally, I think this will be just another 3rd gen with extra flash.

BTW: First!
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: Code-X on February 28, 2004, 01:42:00 PM
It looks ok, Probally best for Developers as it can be Flashed via USB. I wonder if it can use a USB Stick.
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: AE6689 on February 28, 2004, 01:52:00 PM
Yea looks like a 3rd gen chip with extra flash space and 2mb of ram (any idea what you can do with that)
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: Orgness on February 28, 2004, 04:25:00 PM
whats can i do with all that memory?!? but i might actually try to buy one of these
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: Virge123 on February 28, 2004, 05:41:00 PM
Is it just me but didn't they never even sell the cameleon 2 before bringing out a "better chip"?  Sounds like a shell game, just keep shifting the pre order $$ untill you have no idea where it was.  Been ripped off by them once and it won't happen again.
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: heinrich on February 28, 2004, 07:01:00 PM
QUOTE (Virge123 @ Feb 28 2004, 10:41 PM)
Is it just me but didn't they never even sell the cameleon 2 before bringing out a "better chip"?  Sounds like a shell game, just keep shifting the pre order $$ untill you have no idea where it was.  Been ripped off by them once and it won't happen again.

I think they are one in the same.
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: Mast3r Ch13f on February 28, 2004, 10:49:00 PM
QUOTE (xBaNaNaEv0LuTiOnx @ Feb 28 2004, 10:28 PM)
is it just me, or is anyone else bothered by the way they (EB2k) write their specs? especially when they had announced the supposed "chameleon 2."  megaBYTES is usually written with capitals -> MB. whereas megaBITS is written with a capital and lowercase -> Mb. if it is indeed the latter, the chip would only be 512k with 256k for this supposed SRAM  blink.gif

i hope someone can clarify this up for me. maybe by telling them not to use ancronyms  wink.gif

Common sense will tell you it's megabytes because this chip is suppose to be better than the Chameleon. wink.gif
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: xBaNaNaEv0LuTiOnx on February 29, 2004, 06:00:00 AM
QUOTE (Mast3r Ch13f @ Feb 29 2004, 08:49 AM)
Common sense will tell you it's megabytes because this chip is suppose to be better than the Chameleon. wink.gif

whoever said the chip is supposed to be better than the chameleon  wink.gif
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: player1 on February 29, 2004, 06:08:00 AM
QUOTE (xBaNaNaEv0LuTiOnx @ Feb 29 2004, 04:00 PM)
QUOTE (Mast3r Ch13f @ Feb 29 2004, 08:49 AM)
Common sense will tell you it's megabytes because this chip is suppose to be better than the Chameleon. wink.gif

whoever said the chip is supposed to be better than the chameleon  wink.gif

What would be the point in going backwards ?
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: xBaNaNaEv0LuTiOnx on February 29, 2004, 06:36:00 AM
QUOTE (player1 @ Feb 29 2004, 04:08 PM)

What would be the point in going backwards ?

it was just a joke  tongue.gif  we'll all have to wait and see when it comes out...
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: shavedrat on February 29, 2004, 08:36:00 AM
I dont understand what the hell easybuy2000 is doing either. They steal the chameleon designs, and then add a meg of memory to it, jack up the price and call it the chameleon 2, then the day the cham 2 is released, they double the memory again, jack up the price even more and give the mod a new name. hmmm interesting... If you try to figure out what the hell is going on by visiting their site, you get some vague descriptions, coming soon messages etc. Why not display the things this mod does to encourage people to purchase? no way in hell i'd order one of these for 65$ with a solderless adaptor. Isnt the xecuter lite like 52$ or around there? plus, who the hell could possibly need 4 megs of memory! 1 meg is plenty. Most people only use 1 bank anyways.  I dont need 16 different bioss
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: HSDEMONZ on February 29, 2004, 09:55:00 AM
This was the same arguement with the first 1 MB bios chips.. now we got chips from different camps giving us 1, 2, and 4 MB to flash different bios with.

We've already seen proof of concept bios from xecuter.. with embedded xbe/ftp.  Expect more once x3 ships.

As for EB stealing the Cham.. that's not exactly what happened.  EB and Xodus were business partners.. on designing the chips.. the other manufacturering and distributing the chip.  That relationship soured.. and Xodus got screwed out of alot of money.

Both sides retained the cham designs. Xodus decided to wash their hands of the Chameleon designs and project.. meanwhile EB had released another batch or two after the separation and wouldn't you know.. there were ALOT of problems with the EB only batch.

Anyway.. they didn't STEAL the chameleon.
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: X2Gamer on February 29, 2004, 10:02:00 AM
Eb2000 isn't a relieble site and I belive its just trying to do something with the fact that it can't fulfil cutomer demands for the chameleon 2. This new chipslooks rather useless compared with the xenium or smartXx
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: player1 on February 29, 2004, 12:47:00 PM
QUOTE (imamafackinhokie @ Feb 29 2004, 10:42 PM)
Why are mod chips becomming more and more expensive????

going the ps2 way , but Im sure theyd tell you the components cost more.
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: blackbishop on February 29, 2004, 03:20:00 PM
dry.gif

Unless this chip as an OS like the Xenium or SmartXX it will not be worth it.
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: blackbishop on February 29, 2004, 04:45:00 PM
blink.gif  ummmm ok
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: Mast3r Ch13f on February 29, 2004, 08:46:00 PM
smile.gif .
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: blackbishop on March 01, 2004, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE (Mast3r Ch13f @ Feb 29 2004, 09:46 PM)
This thread is supposed to be a discussion of EB2K's new chip the X-Chip.  It's not a place to flame EB2K.  So everyone, please stay on topic before a mod closes it smile.gif .

Sorry but EB2K has alot of bad blood with user's of the forums  wink.gif
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: heinrich on March 02, 2004, 05:29:00 AM
I haven't ever heard of anyone getting 'scammed' by eb2k (scammed = they took your $$ but never gave you a product).  Sure, they take a while to ship, I have tried to get a chip from the before.  But they answered their emails promptly, and when I asked for a refund, they gave it to me immediatly.  I think they got their bad rep with the whole matrix thing, when there were 10,000 people who wanted the chip, and they only got 1,000 a week (my made up #'s)
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: Yuyu on March 02, 2004, 06:16:00 AM
QUOTE (heinrich @ Mar 2 2004, 09:29 AM)
I think they got their bad rep with the whole matrix thing, when there were 10,000 people who wanted the chip, and they only got 1,000 a week (my made up #'s)

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what happened...

It had to have been a nightmare for there ordering and shipping department, because within one or two months there, everybody suddenly "got it", "Wow I can mod my Xbox and do what?; Oh and its easy too with this Matrix thingy? Then suddenly EB2K was swamped with orders they could not fulfill and everyone assumed it to be there fault because of all the shipping delays... Which in essence you could say, that a buisness that is online has to be ready for such mass orders since, they are offering there services to a very large crowd, but there was no way with the amounts the chip maker could produce that they could have fulfilled all those orders in a short period of time... I have had my share of problems with almost every single seller that has sponsored X-S, it just happens, but I have always received my product in the end, which if not functional, was replaced with a new one...
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: blackbishop on March 02, 2004, 07:02:00 AM
I never said anything about scammin' peeps.

All I said was bad blood.

And more then likely it a gen 3 chip with the extra's added not a gen 4
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: Yuyu on March 02, 2004, 07:14:00 AM
QUOTE (blackbishop @ Feb 29 2004, 07:20 PM)
Now they better ship my order so that I can finish up my project.
dry.gif

I believe this comment is what may have made it "appear" you were saying "They better ship my chip and not rip me off"
But, that can be read several different ways actually....

As for my comments, I was just trying to stop the finger pointing when it comes to EB2K, I do not personally use them anymore, but as I said, I have had problems with almost all dealers not just them...
Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: blackbishop on March 02, 2004, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE (Yuyu @ Mar 2 2004, 08:14 AM)
QUOTE (blackbishop @ Feb 29 2004, 07:20 PM)
Now they better ship my order so that I can finish up my project.
dry.gif

I believe this comment is what may have made it "appear" you were saying "They better ship my chip and not rip me off"
But, that can be read several different ways actually....

As for my comments, I was just trying to stop the finger pointing when it comes to EB2K, I do not personally use them anymore, but as I said, I have had problems with almost all dealers not just them...

damn,  Thanks for pointing that out to me

It was ment that their shipping times are long that is, and I need my order like ummmm friday and not 3 fridays from now  wink.gif

Title: Opinions and thoughts (don't be an ass)
Post by: HSDEMONZ on July 03, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
Since my original reviews.. I've had 4 shipments of ships, with all working as advertised.  1.0 - 1.3 boards. (I don't have 1.4/1.5)

Solderless working extremely well for those that wanted it that way.. while the others.. in Pinheader installs.. are doing equally as well.  

Haven't personally found a real use yet for the 3.5 mb of usable stoarge for bios.. except for an insane variety of color mods  etc.  Nice gimmick that help to sell the premods.. so what do I care.