Post by: gnutellafan on December 15, 2003, 08:14:00 AM
Ok, the chameleon is v1.
Just read that the LED needs to be blue but I cant find any reference to a green LED. Was this changed since v1?
Post by: JonDante on December 15, 2003, 12:46:00 PM
The chameleon does not have a green LED, it has a blue LED.
Do you have a second adapter? Or just the one.
Also are you using the stock A/V cables?
JD
Post by: gnutellafan on December 15, 2003, 01:06:00 PM
The chip and the adaptor are both in. Wish I could get a scew driver to the screw to lossen it up and wiggle it like the xodus.
Just the one adaptor.
I am using the A/V cables that came with the xbox.
Post by: JonDante on December 15, 2003, 01:09:00 PM
JD
Post by: gnutellafan on December 15, 2003, 01:12:00 PM
| QUOTE (JonDante @ Dec 15 2003, 11:09 PM) |
| I would go ahead and take the box apart, and give it a look. Loosen it and then reseat the adapter. JD |
Ive tried that around 10x now. I used a brush and alcohol on the connection points. I read the other post on the half filled LPC 2. This box has that. I tried cutting one of the rivets in half and putting in in the hole and worked pretty well but Im still getting the frag. AHHHHHHHHHH, damn this is the worst time Ive ever had with a mod.
Post by: gnutellafan on December 15, 2003, 01:23:00 PM
Or did Xodus just send out bad chips?
And what about the green LED ?
Post by: gnutellafan on December 15, 2003, 01:44:00 PM
Power on
Fan starts, LED lights up green and the eject button goes green x1, then orange x3 (I think), and the GREEN LED on the chameleon goes off
Repeats x2
On the 3rd time instead of repeating again the eject light start going red and green and the LED on the chip is off.
Hitting the power button causes the LED on the CHIP to light up green once more then goes off as the box goes off.
Post by: JonDante on December 15, 2003, 02:02:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Or did Xodus just send out bad chips? And what about the green LED ? |
As you have read, Xodus did not make ANY of the chips... EB2K did. Neither have they ever "sent out" chips.
I have no clue about the green LED.
My question is...how long have you had this? Did it work before? Have you used something else in between? I mean the 1.3 Cham has been available since well before summer.
There are a dozen things that can be wrong. I know the 1.0 Cham will NOT work with a 1.3 Xbox.
The chip is likely bad, given all the problems you have had with it. If you have had it while, did you ever even check it when it came in to see if it was ok?
JD
Post by: gnutellafan on December 15, 2003, 02:42:00 PM
The xbox is version 1.0 (maybe 1.1)
One more thing, I cant flash with the matrix programmer. It give me the error msg:
"Unknown Flash"
Another thing, will I cont to get the frag regarless if the xbox is apart (hd, and dvd out, ect)? Ive tried it both ways but its such a pain to put it all back together each time to check and see if its working
Post by: chameleonindabox on December 15, 2003, 03:46:00 PM
The only thing I can suggest is to use desoldering braid and remove the solder form the lpc holes. Than use the rivets. I have a 1.0 box and thats what i did although I didn't know that I didn't have to do this. Regardless, my box works fine modded just like JD's manual says so those are my two cents. Good Luck!
Happy Chameleon owner
P.S. When using the desoldering briad, don't bother with lpc #2 because I couldn't get that one out for some reason. You can try but if you cant clear that hole, just fill that one with a really tiny bit of solder so the pin touches it. And when your using the briad, watch out that you don't leave it on the motherboard too long (about 10 sec at a shot is good) because when you pull it off, you might rip something out of the board.
Post by: JonDante on December 15, 2003, 04:48:00 PM
You might fool around with your printer port settings, but I ran into that with all the rejects that various users sent me from EB2K. Everyone of them was unflashable.
JD
Post by: gnutellafan on December 15, 2003, 04:52:00 PM
I was trying to flash again (still getting unkown flash error --- anyone, help, please)
And the LED finally became a nice very bright blue instead of the dim green that it has been. Tried to stick in back in the box but nothing.
I even pulled the chip out of my box and stuck it in. In my box the xbox led around the eject stays green but the led on the chameleon doesnt lite up at all (and the xbox doesnt work - with large HD in it)
Post by: gnutellafan on December 16, 2003, 08:37:00 AM
Any ideas??
This is my xbox now, version 1.0
about to try it in my friends v1.1 xbox
Post by: gnutellafan on December 16, 2003, 08:50:00 AM
Are both the chips bad?
Post by: gnutellafan on December 16, 2003, 11:07:00 AM
"unknow flash"
So instead of flashing you get an error.
Post by: gnutellafan on December 16, 2003, 11:46:00 AM
-Why do the 2 dif chips have the same problems in each xbox?
Xbox 1 goes green/orange x2 the frags in- both chips, led pail green on chip 1
Xbox 2 goes solid green but fails to boot, no led on either chip
-Chip 1 give "unknown flash" error with matrix programmer
-Chip 2 flashable with matrix programmer
Adaptor - the only constant: I know 100% that its in the right place in both the 1.1 and the 1.0 xbox and D0 is correct. Is the adaptor bad also? It has a very loose connection with the chameleon
Post by: staticfl on December 20, 2003, 05:42:00 AM
Any ideas or suggestions?
Post by: wipsaw on December 20, 2003, 06:28:00 AM
- yep, I need to reset the dip switch. thanks JD (i'm learnin')
Post by: JonDante on December 20, 2003, 07:37:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Originally I flashed it with the M7, but after it booted into factory OS, I reinstalled Cromwell |
What did you think it would do? M7 looks just like M$ bios. Flashing your chip is just step one of a two step process. You now need to boot with Slayers or an Evox XISO CDRW.
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staticfl says:
| QUOTE |
| The adapter and chip installed flawlessly and booted up in Cromwell and asked for a cd. I installed EvolutionX V2.5.256k.bin in default mode (all 4 dips off so it's 4x256). The box shutdown after the flash, I waited like 10 mins the powered it back up. Now it frags. The power cycles twice and stays on the 3rd time with the green/orange lights flashing. I've tried booting to all 4 banks, 0,1,2,3. And I get the same problem |
First you need to get more current with a BIOS. Even with a 1.2 box, you should at LEAST be using X2 4977. Second, it DEFINATELY sounds like your chip became misaligned...especially if all banks do not work.
gnuetellafan says:
| QUOTE |
| Adaptor - the only constant: I know 100% that its in the right place in both the 1.1 and the 1.0 xbox and D0 is correct. Is the adaptor bad also? It has a very loose connection with the chameleon |
Your adapter should tight and flush with the motherboard. Anything less than that will definately cause problems.
Best to all,
JonDante
Post by: wraunch81 on December 20, 2003, 11:05:00 AM
Post by: JonDante on December 20, 2003, 11:23:00 AM
JD
Post by: wraunch81 on December 20, 2003, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: JonDante on December 20, 2003, 12:19:00 PM
JD
Post by: wraunch81 on December 20, 2003, 12:44:00 PM
Post by: JonDante on December 20, 2003, 01:09:00 PM
I did not have to scrape anything...not even the D0 point.
JD
Post by: wraunch81 on December 20, 2003, 01:15:00 PM
Post by: wraunch81 on December 20, 2003, 01:28:00 PM
Post by: gnutellafan on December 20, 2003, 02:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (JonDante @ Dec 20 2003, 05:37 PM) | ||
gnuetellafan says:
Your adapter should tight and flush with the motherboard. Anything less than that will definately cause problems. Best to all, JonDante |
Read VERY carefully what I said. IT is VERY tight with the motherboard and properly aligned, BUT the Chameleon to the adaptor connection is loose.
Post by: JonDante on December 20, 2003, 02:37:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| -Why do the 2 dif chips have the same problems in each xbox? Xbox 1 goes green/orange x2 the frags in- both chips, led pail green on chip 1 Xbox 2 goes solid green but fails to boot, no led on either chip -Chip 1 give "unknown flash" error with matrix programmer -Chip 2 flashable with matrix programmer |
Backwards to the front:
Chip 1- Since you cannot flash it with the programmer we know this chip PROBABLY has a problem. However since this chip reacts just like chip 2 in both boxes...let's not go blaming chips on anything just yet.
Chip 2- Since chip 2 IS flashable, tell me what you have flashed it with. And, is it in mode 1 bank 0 (all dips off)?
Xbox 1- If Chip 2 has no different reaction in either box than a non-flashed chip has, then I can assume one thing based on what you gave me above. First boot it with the adapter in, but no chip. What does it do? Remove the adapter from Xbox 1 (green/orange frags). Does the box boot normally without the adapter in it? If not, we know the xbox has problems. If it boots normally it is the adapter or the installation of such at fault.
Xbox 2...what do you mean it "fails to boot"? Blank screen? XBox screen? What happens? If it goes straight to the XBox screen...for sure there is a connectivity error. The adapter could be to blame in XBox 2. But I need to first know what happens. Also tell me what happens when there is NO chip in it...and then also no adapter.
This might take you some time, but I think given how much you have wasted thus far on it, as well as the golden opportunity to get this thing fixed might make it worth your while. Hell, I know I could have done all of this faster than it took me to type this to you.
JD
Adaptor - the only constant: I know 100% that its in the right place in both the 1.1 and the 1.0 xbox and D0 is correct. Is the adaptor bad also? It has a very loose connection with the chameleon
Post by: gnutellafan on December 20, 2003, 03:30:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| gnutellafan I read your comment fine. And I have read your problems. BTW, the last time a Chameleon did not fit snugly on an adapter in one of my boxes was because it was only HALF on. It has to be a snug fit...but let's look at your questions. |
I have pushed it on all the way down. It cant go on any further and it has alot of play.
| QUOTE | ||
Backwards to the front: Chip 1- Since you cannot flash it with the programmer we know this chip PROBABLY has a problem. However since this chip reacts just like chip 2 in both boxes...let's not go blaming chips on anything just yet. Chip 2- Since chip 2 IS flashable, tell me what you have flashed it with. And, is it in mode 1 bank 0 (all dips off)? |
Yes, all dips off. Ive also tried other modes and all modes fail with both chips.
| QUOTE |
| Xbox 1- If Chip 2 has no different reaction in either box than a non-flashed chip has, then I can assume one thing based on what you gave me above. First boot it with the adapter in, but no chip. What does it do? Remove the adapter from Xbox 1 (green/orange frags). Does the box boot normally without the adapter in it? If not, we know the xbox has problems. If it boots normally it is the adapter or the installation of such at fault. |
Not at home right now, but Ill give it a try.
| QUOTE |
| Xbox 2...what do you mean it "fails to boot"? Blank screen? XBox screen? What happens? If it goes straight to the XBox screen...for sure there is a connectivity error. The adapter could be to blame in XBox 2. But I need to first know what happens. Also tell me what happens when there is NO chip in it...and then also no adapter. |
Blank screen with chip, boots normally to regular xbox with no adaptor/chip, will try just adaptor later.
Post by: wraunch81 on December 20, 2003, 03:34:00 PM
The xbox boots to the default xbox screen with or without the chip in it. The chip has been flashed with Cromwell 2.7 and it never ejects the tray or prompts for a cd. If it was a connection error wouldnt it frag? Also if not then what would be the things you would check to see if connection is good? The adapter is tightly fitted and the d0 pt is soldered accurately. What else is there?
Post by: gnutellafan on December 21, 2003, 05:26:00 AM
| QUOTE (wraunch81 @ Dec 21 2003, 01:34 AM) |
| Answers: The xbox boots to the default xbox screen with or without the chip in it. The chip has been flashed with Cromwell 2.7 and it never ejects the tray or prompts for a cd. If it was a connection error wouldnt it frag? Also if not then what would be the things you would check to see if connection is good? The adapter is tightly fitted and the d0 pt is soldered accurately. What else is there? |
Since it boots to the xbox screen with the chip in it you do not have all the contact points connected correctly.
Post by: gnutellafan on December 21, 2003, 07:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (JonDante @ Dec 21 2003, 12:37 AM) |
| Xbox 1- If Chip 2 has no different reaction in either box than a non-flashed chip has, then I can assume one thing based on what you gave me above. First boot it with the adapter in, but no chip. What does it do? Remove the adapter from Xbox 1 (green/orange frags). Does the box boot normally without the adapter in it? If not, we know the xbox has problems. If it boots normally it is the adapter or the installation of such at fault. |
With the adaptor ONLY (no chip connected) the xbox boots in normal sequence to the MS Dash.
Re-Confirmed that attaching either chip FRAGS xbox 1 (v1.1), while xbox 2 (v1.0) goes solid green but does not boot to either the cromwell screen or the ms dash.
Post by: JonDante on December 21, 2003, 08:36:00 AM
Xbox 1:
No Adapter- Boots normal
With Adapter- Boots normal
With Chip 1- Multi-colored frags
With Chip 2- Multi-colored frags
XBox 2:
No Adapter- Boots normal
With Adapter- Boots normal
With Chip 1- Blank screen
With Chip 2- Blank screen
I this correct?
The problem I am having is this: when I remove my chips but leave the solderless adapter in, all 3 of my Xboxes frag! This leads me to believe there is a problem with the adapters. However, I'm not going to put that in "stone". If you are interested, PM me. Maybe we can work something out for me to test your chips.
JD
Post by: gnutellafan on December 21, 2003, 12:12:00 PM
However there is ZERO reason for just an adaptor to FRAG an xbox. It is not making connections to anything. It is simply extending the contact points further off the motherboard. It has not crossed any contacts or made any new contacts so there is NO reason that JUST the adaptor should affect the xbox. And it doesnt in my box which makes perfect sense to me.
Post by: JonDante on December 21, 2003, 01:18:00 PM
However, if we assume that you are right, then both your chips are crap and you need to buy new ones. Sorry. I gave you all the info I know, and have offered to let me try to program them.
JD
Post by: gnutellafan on December 21, 2003, 03:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (JonDante @ Dec 21 2003, 11:18 PM) |
| Actually, connecting the solderless adapter to the D0 causes the entire LPC point to have a ground (otherwise the XBox is not even aware it is there...thus the whole reason for using that as an exploit). However, if we assume that you are right, then both your chips are crap and you need to buy new ones. Sorry. I gave you all the info I know, and have offered to let me try to program them. JD |
Look at one of the adaptors. What exactly does the D0 connector ground to? Unless there are some internal circuits IN the plastic the adapter alone doesnt do anything to the DO (at least the one I have). There is a wire going from the D0 wire, across the adaptor to a pin that does NOT extend through to the other side. It just sticks up to connect to the mod chip. This should do anything to the d0 point other then essentially "relocate" the point.
BTW, where are the team XODUS guys. I submitted a request via their site as well as PMed them here. EB2k actually seems to give better customer support then team xodus.
Post by: JonDante on December 21, 2003, 04:20:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| There is a wire going from the D0 wire, across the adaptor to a pin that does NOT extend through to the other side. It just sticks up to connect to the mod chip. This should do anything to the d0 point other then essentially "relocate" the point. |
Mine connects to pin 4. This is probably your problem.
| QUOTE |
| BTW, where are the team XODUS guys. I submitted a request via their site as well as PMed them here. EB2k actually seems to give better customer support then team xodus. |
Don't be a moron. EB2K hasn't given SHIT except for shipping dates. You do read the boards yes?
I support everyone here, whether they have bought a chip from me or not. Even the idiots who have continued to support EB2K gets my support.
Xodus cannot support something they did not sanction. Neither can they support something that they had no quality control over.
I have spent a lot of time posting here to you, trying to help you out. Xodus has very well documented manuals on installing the chip.
Bottomline...if your chips don't work, send them back to where you got them from, cause it is THEIR responsibility to check them for problems BEFORE passing them on to you. I DO!!! Anyone here ever got a bad chip from JonDante??? Hell no!
Don't cross me on this, and especially not after I have offered my help while having the damn flu!
JD
Post by: gnutellafan on December 21, 2003, 04:43:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| There is a wire going from the D0 wire, across the adaptor to a pin that does NOT extend through to the other side. It just sticks up to connect to the mod chip. This should do anything to the d0 point other then essentially "relocate" the point. |
But my pin 4 doesnt go anywhere. It would just go into the chip, but it doesnt go through the adaptor to the motherboard. So with no chip on the adaptor their is no way what the D0 / pin 4 should matter.
Post by: JonDante on December 21, 2003, 05:03:00 PM
I really feel like your chips have problems. Either with memory, or bad-flashed from the factory.
JD