Post by: moistness on December 02, 2003, 08:37:00 AM
Post by: ashe on December 02, 2003, 08:50:00 AM
Post by: WaRnINg| on December 02, 2003, 09:19:00 AM
Post by: LepPpeR on December 02, 2003, 09:35:00 AM
Xodus developed the chips and EasyBuy2000 manufactured them. Easybuy2000 walked away from xodus and started to take the profits themselves. The only problem was they are not putting out shotty chips because there is a lack of oversight (XODUS).
XODUS is working with a couple of manufacturing companies to produce more chips (updated chips for future versions as they still know how to do it.).
So for right now, Easybuy2000 is producing the chips themselves and cutting xodus out of the loop.
Just a small update.
Post by: SenseiKage on December 02, 2003, 02:34:00 PM
'They're' obviously chickenshit.
They've ripped a multitude of us off with nothing but the run around for our money spent. We might as well have bought these from the back of a truck on the side of the road, it would have been about as safe. They're support is shit, they're shipping is shit, they're quality is shit. I'd compare them to a ghetto dump drug dealer but i personally feel that would give them too much credit.
I ordered from them without researching into their history or track record, so my loss is my fault. I take full repsonsibility for that. But this is really where the clear cut lines between a hustler and a real business comes into play. These guys are no better than an e-bay scam. It's a shame they used a good product to pull something off like this.
I've posted on another thread that there should be a sticky warning about purchasing through them, not so much as a slam against them but as fair warning to the public. I'm not in charge here, hell i'm a n00b, so it's not up to me to say anymore than that. But if they aren't going to answer for this mounting tension and poor service they've given then maybe it's not a bad idea.
What do you guys think?
Post by: joeyshabado on December 02, 2003, 05:51:00 PM
It seems to me that Xbox modding is something where a majority of information is shared word of mouth. I'd think that easybuy would want to correct any bad information about them immediately. That is unless, as somebody said earlier, the story is true and they really can't explain it in a positive way.
Oh and good job to sp8rky for being blunt. I like it.
Post by: razoruk on December 02, 2003, 06:22:00 PM
I hope this is where my troubles with Easybuy2000 end and the chip is ok on arrival. If not I will be sending it back for a refund and ordering from JonDante.
Post by: pontfirebird73 on December 02, 2003, 07:51:00 PM
hopefully i can expect some good news buying from an actual member of this board, (JD).
Post by: temjin46 on December 02, 2003, 08:06:00 PM
Post by: Easybuy2000 on December 03, 2003, 05:39:00 AM
To EVERY story there are 2 sides of it. You have heard ONLY 1 side of the story.
This story is NOT true.
As for us to comment on this we have chose to not go public with it.
This is a matter for the 2 parties to resolve by themselves.
This is a closed issue.
Post by: sp8rky on December 03, 2003, 06:16:00 AM
| QUOTE (Easybuy2000 @ Dec 3 2003, 10:39 AM) |
| This is to answer the original post by sp8rky. To EVERY story there are 2 sides of it. You have heard ONLY 1 side of the story. This story is NOT true. As for us to comment on this we have chose to not go public with it. This is a matter for the 2 parties to resolve by themselves. This is a closed issue. |
OK, let me see if I understand... you correctly...
1) The members of xbox-scene are not hearing the whole story .... and in fact there is another side to the story.
2) You claim that the story that was posted is NOT true.
3) You're setteling this matter privately.
4) You've chosen not to comment... with the exception being only to make the aforementioned comments...
It looks like your being selective in what you reply to... once again.
If it's not true... then what exactly are you setteling?
And by the way... this issue will be closed when the xbox-scene members say it's closed.
Post by: Easybuy2000 on December 03, 2003, 06:51:00 AM
Post by: LepPpeR on December 03, 2003, 07:17:00 AM
Just my thoughts.
P.S - sp8rky is a member with a voice just like everyone else.
Post by: Iriez on December 03, 2003, 07:38:00 AM
eb2k has, and has always had, HORRIBLE service.
End of facts.
Now, beggining of *speculation*:
The story makes sense. Infact, with such a disreputable company, i would not doubt it whatsoever. Leppper may not have anything against EB2K, but *i do*. I have had personal experiences with the company, in which i waited 2 months for my product.
The above poster posts that the story is not true, but gives *no* insight into the situation. They are only hurting themselves by keeping their mouthes closed (and most likely hurting xodus aswell).
Now, i have never spoken to the xodus guys, nor would i care too. It was their decision to sell with eb2k (or manufacture with aswell if thats true) and THAT was a bad idea.
They knew eb2k's reputation. Everyone does. And they STILL decidided to go with them. THAT was a bad idea, and i will forever hold it against them.
This was a capitalistic decision, and a bad one at that. It was based *solely* off money, and not off of what is most important: customer service.
What does this tell everyone?
Dont buy from eb2k.
Quite frankly, with all of their mistakes and horrible reputation, i am highly surprised they are still in buisness.
Post by: ashe on December 03, 2003, 08:26:00 AM
| QUOTE (Easybuy2000 @ Dec 3 2003, 05:40 PM) |
| We dont want to keep quiet but a lot of the information is sensitive . If Xodus team whishes to talk public about it we will respond... however we wont give in to innuendo and rumors. |
Than how about issuing a "press release" and explain the facts to us. This is really starting to leave a very bad taste in my mouth and I don't care to do business with people that have no ethical stature.
Post by: Easybuy2000 on December 03, 2003, 08:53:00 AM
Post by: moistness on December 03, 2003, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: moistness on December 03, 2003, 08:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (Easybuy2000 @ Dec 3 2003, 06:53 PM) |
| Cheers until then |
Dont get cocky!
Post by: ashe on December 03, 2003, 09:07:00 AM
| QUOTE (Easybuy2000 @ Dec 3 2003, 07:01 PM) |
| Like I said and I will say still.... I am ready to answer publicly to any allegation from Xodus team . What JoeDante or anybody else thinks its not of our concern... So you can droll all you.. and if you decide not to buy from us "moistness"... hey its a free country right? |
Ah I think this basiclly qualifies as a "we don't care what you (customers) think" line. That sums up their/his business practices.
Thank you for showing your true colors... and I guess I will be one of many who decide never to buy another ripped of chip from EasyRIPOFF2000.
EasyRIPOFF2000
Post by: moistness on December 03, 2003, 09:12:00 AM
| QUOTE (Easybuy2000 @ Dec 3 2003, 07:01 PM) |
| What JoeDante or anybody else thinks its not of our concern... |
So your public image is of no concern to you? Thats just sad.!
I run my own business(totally non xbox related) and if someone publicly made false allogations about my business then i would be very eager to set the record straight as quickly as possible! since you are so reluctant to do so i can only ASSUME that the allogations, if only in greater part, are true!
Post by: ashe on December 03, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
| QUOTE (Easybuy2000 @ Dec 3 2003, 07:17 PM) |
| Yes it is of of our concern (public image) but not to the point that someone can hold us hostage over it. I repeat. We are ready to answer any alegation from Xodus Team directly. Innuendo is not important for us. |
What the F#$@ are you waiting for??? An invitation?
Post by: MyUtopia on December 03, 2003, 09:45:00 AM
Allow me to play devil's advocate here...
EB2K states that they will only respond to XODUS' accusation.
JonDante claims to have had an interview with XODUS and states the following in a thread he created earlier: "But my interview with Xodus was refreshing, and they granted me permission to share this arduous story/adventure with you folks here."
Lepper claims that all this is true - but then later recants by stating that he has nothing against EB2K and asks for *their* side of the story.
Jon, since you have permission from XODUS, please publish the full interview for all to see. This should be sufficient enough of an accusation from XODUS and not *heresay* as was published in your thread.
Lepper, if you claim the above to be true - is this a matter of opinion or do you have proof?
TEAM XODUS, and any folks familiar with Patent laws, would it not be possible to patent your products? Especially the blue PCB (or would that fall under copyright since it is a *printed* circuit board?)? How the heck are customers suppose to know the difference between one manufactured by you and/or EB2K since they will both be exact identicals?
Disclosure: I am not affiliated with any of the above parties - Am just merely a member who is interested in this story. And excellent design by the way on the Chameleon chip.
Best Regards to all...
Post by: ashe on December 03, 2003, 09:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (MyUtopia @ Dec 3 2003, 07:45 PM) |
| Hi All, Allow me to play devil's advocate here... EB2K states that they will only respond to XODUS' accusation. JonDante claims to have had an interview with XODUS and states the following in a thread he created earlier: "But my interview with Xodus was refreshing, and they granted me permission to share this arduous story/adventure with you folks here." Lepper claims that all this is true - but then later recants by stating that he has nothing against EB2K and asks for *their* side of the story. Jon, since you have permission from XODUS, please publish the full interview for all to see. This should be sufficient enough of an accusation from XODUS and not *heresay* as was published in your thread. Lepper, if you claim the above to be true - is this a matter of opinion or do you have proof? TEAM XODUS, and any folks familiar with Patent laws, would it not be possible to patent your products? Especially the blue PCB (or would that fall under copyright since it is a *printed* circuit board?)? How the heck are customers suppose to know the difference between one manufactured by you and/or EB2K since they will both be exact identicals? Disclosure: I am not affiliated with any of the above parties - Am just merely a member who is interested in this story. And excellent design by the way on the Chameleon chip. Best Regards to all... |
well here is the offical line from Team Xodus.
http://forums.xbox-s...T&f=51&t=133616
Post by: MyUtopia on December 03, 2003, 09:58:00 AM
However, this is rather odd:
XODUS says "1) The fact that our personal stock WAS limited by eb2k. ( we are now officialy out of stock and eb2k is still selling them ??) "
Does this mean that they were/are still using EB2K with the blue Chameleons? And if so - this does not support the "hijacking" of the design since XODUS is still having them manufacture the chips (LE-blue ones).
Best Regards...
Post by: sp8rky on December 03, 2003, 01:26:00 PM
Likewise, thank you to JonDante for making this disturbing allegation public.
If we've done nothing else here but place the notion of caution into the minds of potiential customers of Eb2k, then we have suceeded.
This forum is about sharing thoughts and helping the "scene". I think we've acomplished just that.
Post by: pontfirebird73 on December 03, 2003, 07:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (MyUtopia @ Dec 3 2003, 07:58 PM) |
| I just saw this post after I have sent mine... However, this is rather odd: XODUS says "1) The fact that our personal stock WAS limited by eb2k. ( we are now officialy out of stock and eb2k is still selling them ??) " Does this mean that they were/are still using EB2K with the blue Chameleons? And if so - this does not support the "hijacking" of the design since XODUS is still having them manufacture the chips (LE-blue ones). Best Regards... |
i think what that means is eb2k has cut xodus out of the loop in terms of manufacturing the chips. how could they be selling something that xodus is out of stock? easy, eb2k is making them.
Post by: WaRnINg| on December 08, 2003, 05:33:00 PM
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