Post by: D0wnXcaST on November 18, 2003, 04:46:00 PM
thanks for the information, but does it mean that EB2k wont have new stock, so they wont be able to ship out order ? should we canceled our order from eb2k right now and find somewhere else to buy it ?
Post by: JonDante on November 23, 2003, 06:12:00 AM
JD
Post by: HSDEMONZ on November 23, 2003, 03:01:00 PM
EB2K has been less than honest and fair about this situation. XODUS does the hard work and designs the chip.. EB2K produces and imports it.
EB2K has apparently and intentionally hijacked/stolen the CHAMELEON away from it's creator.. and the creator currently has little recourse.
EB2K, being both manufacturer and importer, have full 100% control of the inventory of CHAMs.. meaning they can pick and choose now who gets to sell it, what it's prices at, and have the ability to sell the chip themselves at a price that is lower (undercut) the prices that resellers who buy chips from them are forced to charge.
It would appear that XODUS has had little luck in securing new manufacturing (but I'm sure they can.. as the design has merit)
It isn't hard to see where this is going.. and that would be the eventual public release of the chip design onto the market.. where a dozen cloners will reproduce chams at an astonishing rate/price, breaking what appears to be an EB2K stranglehold.
It would seem critical for EB2K to retain their relationship with XODUS.. to further advance the design of the CHAM and future chips.. as EB2K had nothing to do with the design of either matrix or cham. Newer motherboard designs are sure to come from MS.. and without XODUS designing the "fixes" eb2k may end up with stockpiles of chips that won't work on newer boards.
I would hope that EB2K will sit down.. and at least hammer out a new deal.. paying the XODUS people what they deserve. It the right, moral, and ethical thing to do.
Post by: cybrpunk on November 24, 2003, 09:47:00 AM
I've since decided to purchase a chip from a different manufacturer and already have it installed and up-and-running. It's a shame that EB2k has such bad business practices, but I could see from reports across the web that the Chameleon was an extremely hard to find mod - and now I know why. It was their complete and total mistreatment of me as a customer that led me to use a different mod and I'm glad to see Xodus has written them off as well.
Best of luck with the new webshop, JD. From what I've seen here on the forums you seem like you'd do the "scene" justice as a reseller. Now I know who to refer people to for the Chameleon.
Post by: JonDante on November 24, 2003, 02:07:00 PM
Thanks for the referrals all. My shipment should be here TOMORROW!!! So get in line!
JD
Post by: HSDEMONZ on November 24, 2003, 06:09:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| OK, this is shitty. heres my question. what about the 20 winners of the EB2k Giveaway? i still havnt got my chip. should i not be expecting it now? i hope they are still going to send those out, the 1 time i DO win something and i probably get shafted. that blows.....hopefully they come through..... |
I've explained the EB2K 20 Chip prize situation in this thread..
EB bumfucks XS contest winners
Anyway.. the winners of that contest are getting chips one way or another.
Post by: X-ace on December 01, 2003, 11:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (JonDante @ Nov 24 2003, 11:07 PM) |
| Give me a little time to get going and I will have a contest and FIX it for you to win at least ONE Chameleon Dank!!! Thanks for the referrals all. My shipment should be here TOMORROW!!! So get in line! JD |
JonDante,
Let me know when you contest gets going as I also *won* a chip from EB2K.