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Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: tien1728 on May 19, 2003, 09:17:00 PM
wow i must be smarter than a Electrical Engineer with a PhD. I install my matrix chip and my 80 gb hd in 30 mins.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: kkattfish on May 19, 2003, 09:25:00 PM
i guess that just goes to show, book smarts aren't everything.   ph34r.gif
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: rms2001 on May 19, 2003, 09:46:00 PM
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mine even had filled LPc holes.

Did it come with filled holes? Or did you fill them?
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: pkpss on May 19, 2003, 10:25:00 PM
QUOTE (tien1728 @ May 19 2003, 10:17 PM)
wow i must be smarter than a Electrical Engineer with a PhD. I install my matrix chip and my 80 gb hd in 30 mins.

You would probably come no where close to that stature bud.  Use correct grammar and punctuation first, then maybe we can think a little more highly of you.

On note of this thread though:

IMO any solderless solution for the XBOX is a POS (piece of shit), thats just my opinion of course.

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Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: Heet on May 19, 2003, 10:39:00 PM
dude, if you cant put a matrix in then you should not go any further.
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Post by: feflicker on May 19, 2003, 10:40:00 PM
It seems that no matter how loud we scream, people still buy the pogo's and end up frustrated, on the verge of suicide.  blink.gif

All kidding aside, you should look at replacing it with an X3 when they come out... In the meantime I would live with it.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: Lerxst on May 19, 2003, 10:47:00 PM
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I am an Electrical Engineer with a PhD and I cant get this damn thing to boot using thier recommended install method.


Yeah why buy a chip that has pogo pins if you're an electrical engineer? Many people have installed them that don't even have peach fuzz on their face.

It doesn't take PHD.

BS

~Lerxst
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: FrankDux on May 20, 2003, 05:07:00 AM
I installed many Matrix mods, and none of them were hard at all. ...

Also I would not buy into the X3, only becuase Team X is chopping you off at the knees, First they hype the X2 lite and Pro. everyone runs and buys it, not what, they want to release and X3 right away, so we have to spend more money.. thats nonsense.

The matrix is an awsome chip for someone who doesnt want to solder or doesnt want their motherboard to be moded physicaly. I have installed like I mentioned above many (over 50) and not one problem. when it comes to v1.1 and v1.2 boards you need to fill in the LPC holes thats all you need to remember...
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: bruce1271 on May 20, 2003, 06:25:00 AM
Hey All,

Good to see some responses.  First off, I was an Engineering major and not english, so my grammer is not a concern to me nor should it be to you.  Especially at 1am when I wrote that.

I have v 1.1  I have not scraped, filled or anything.  I followed the directions on the matrix web-site and did not see where I needed to scrape, fill, pluck, kiss or anything to the board.  You can call me stupid, I dont care. What I did was follow the given directions from the manfacturer.

What I get on 1,1 (dips) is a flash of green followed by red. Which is correct.
When I go 1 off 2 on, I get the 3 power on/off. I did get it to boot into Evox 1 time by holding down the damn thing in such a mangled way there that there is no way the screw could hold it. Also, I had to use my PC's dvd-rom drive to get the Evox dashboard to boot.

So, I need a new brand of cd-rw I guess.

What exactly causes the 3 boot thing? D0 or LPC?

Thanks
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: methadone_pretty on May 20, 2003, 07:29:00 AM
LPC
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: bruce1271 on May 20, 2003, 12:10:00 PM
Well,

It appears I got this to work on v1.1 without having to solder anything or scrape anything.
I had to use electrical tape underneath the PCB of the matrix to angle it towards the LPC.  I needed 3 peices ~ 5" in length and doubled them up and put them under the Matrix.  Tightened down the screw a bit and it seems to be working-I need to buy a longer screw though. It boots into EvolutionX using my PC dvd-rom.  Now I have to find a cd-rw that works.  

Anyone have any brands they know works with the samsung drive?

Later
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: sharpie00 on May 20, 2003, 12:32:00 PM
As I posted in another topic, I think the easiest method of installing a Matrix in a v1.1 is by doing the following:

1.  Remove the motherboard.
2.  Solder a wire to the alternate d0 site.
3.  Put the motherboard back in.
4.  Put a piece of electrical tape on top of the original d0 site so there is NO contact between the d0 pogo pin and the d0 point on the motherboard.
5.  Put the matrix into the LPC holes without filling them with solder.
6.  Solder the d0 wire coming from the alternate d0 site to the top of the d0 pogo pin on the Matrix.
7.  Tighten the screw and never worry about the matrix coming out of alignment or screwing up the d0 site by scratching it up.

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sharpie00
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: bruce1271 on May 20, 2003, 01:13:00 PM
Perhaps I will solder the D0 to the alternate site if this does not hold. Where is that alternate D0 point anyway? Is it a large contact?

Now what do I do to make "back-ups" of games?

I have a menu with EvolutionX booted.

I am at work now, but I believe the options are:

1)Harddrive
2)Network
3)reboot
4)???

I can set-up the Class C subnet to connect into my hub that has my Linux and Windows PC on it.

How do I fire up the FTP server on my Xbox?  I though Evolution has that installed?  

Also, is there any way I can boot from the harddrive without the boot disk?

I guess I will look at some tutorials.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: CybrJnkie on May 20, 2003, 04:10:00 PM
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Post by: Morglum on May 20, 2003, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE (bruce1271 @ May 20 2003, 06:10 AM)
I am an Electrical Engineer with a PhD....

LOL, neither of you guys could be decent electronic engineers if you had to BUY a damn chip, should have built your own like me, hell you dont even need to be an engineer to build it, my girlfriends 12year old brother could build one.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: CybrJnkie on May 20, 2003, 05:16:00 PM
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Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: bruce1271 on May 20, 2003, 05:34:00 PM
Kiss my Quatum physics ass. I am telling about my problem. I could care less about others it has helped.  I bet all those others had V1.0 not 1.1
If you dont like what I say...too bad chump...move on.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: Fokus on May 20, 2003, 05:51:00 PM
So Bruce did you ge it to work?  If you did could you post it here, it could probably help out a lot of peple who might face the same probs...

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Post by: Morglum on May 20, 2003, 08:32:00 PM
QUOTE (FIREitUP @ May 21 2003, 02:23 AM)
its hard to belive that people can have so much trouble with a concept so simple, i installed mine in under 3 minutes....get a damn cheapmod if you can solder and dont pay double for features that are overpriced on the x2 (and you probably wont use that 1mb bios any time soon, or ever) you wanna call the matrix a POS fine, no one gives a shit about your problem if you're gonna whine because you cant get it alligned you quantum physic fucker.  go flame some other chip because matrix has helped many newbs, but maybe not you....so shut up already bruce almighty.

I agree, just because he had trouble with it dont mean its bad, not that i know, never seen or used one, i built a cheap lpcmod. But ive met many people who have even had troubles with the most expensive of chips that claim to be the best thing since sliced bread and easiest to install and blah blah blah, yet they dont go shitting them to hell because they fucked it up themselves. I dare say for every one person that has trouble or screws up somehow, there are most likely 20+ people who have no troubles at all. You cant blame the chip for your own incompetance bruce1271.

EDIT: Damn typos  tongue.gif
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: leisenstein on May 20, 2003, 08:47:00 PM
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You need to get a job that gives you some hands-on experience. biggrin.gif

I'm about to finish my CS degree and I want to get an MS in EE or Chem.E.  Where did you go?
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: Kiran on May 20, 2003, 11:48:00 PM
allignment and realignment never caused me any trouble!.... and well, I´m glad to have a xbox 1.0, cause they are built most chip-friendly!
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: FIREitUP on May 21, 2003, 03:25:00 AM
its so simple that its a POS......ok......so if you're so fuckin smart get the fuck off this forum you fuckin ass, no one wants to hear you complain.  Go start your own forum and flame good products (though slightly overpriced), this forum is for helping, not flaming, so keep your opinions to yourself and lets all just help each other.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: bruce1271 on May 21, 2003, 06:19:00 AM
I am not flaming the chipset.  I am flaming the premise that the matrix folks convey that this mod can be installed in 30 seconds.  Look at thier little film they get you to download.
I bought this chip to put it in fast and get on with my life.  I have no desire to spend alot of time messing with a mod that is supposed to be fast to install.  


For all those out there, I did get it to work by using electrical tape as a fulcrum/wedge.  I placed the tape between the modchip board and the motherboard.  I used 3 pieces of tape and doubled them back on each other twice(sticky side out).  This caused the matrix to be installed at an angle.  The Chip is angled towards the D0 pin probably at 15 degree angle I would say. Make sure you smash the tape down good so it doesnt give after time.  

After I installed it, I smacked my box a few times and rattled it as well.  Seems like it is in there pretty good now.

I can now boot with EvolutionX.

This chip is probably fine, but dont expect ot have your box opened up and closed back up in 10 minutes if you have V1.1
from what I've read, this V has a tougher time with this chip.  

For the guy who asked where I went to school - Penn State.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: bruce1271 on May 21, 2003, 06:23:00 AM
I am not flaming the chipset.  I am flaming the premise that the matrix folks convey that this mod can be installed in 30 seconds.  Look at thier little film they get you to download.
I bought this chip to put it in fast and get on with my life.  I have no desire to spend alot of time messing with a mod that is supposed to be fast to install.  


For all those out there, I did get it to work by using electrical tape as a fulcrum/wedge.  I placed the tape between the modchip board and the motherboard.  I used 3 pieces of tape and doubled them back on each other twice(sticky side out).  This caused the matrix to be installed at an angle.  The Chip is angled towards the D0 pin probably at 15 degree angle I would say. Make sure you smash the tape down good so it doesnt give after time.  

After I installed it, I smacked my box a few times and rattled it as well.  Seems like it is in there pretty good now.

I can now boot with EvolutionX.

This chip is probably fine, but dont expect ot have your box opened up and closed back up in 10 minutes if you have V1.1
from what I've read, this V has a tougher time with this chip.  

For the guy who asked where I went to school - Penn State.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: bruce1271 on May 21, 2003, 06:30:00 AM
I am not flaming the chipset.  I am flaming the premise that the matrix folks convey that this mod can be installed in 30 seconds.  Look at thier little film they get you to download.
I bought this chip to put it in fast and get on with my life.  I have no desire to spend alot of time messing with a mod that is supposed to be fast to install.  


For all those out there, I did get it to work by using electrical tape as a fulcrum/wedge.  I placed the tape between the modchip board and the motherboard.  I used 3 pieces of tape and doubled them back on each other twice(sticky side out).  This caused the matrix to be installed at an angle.  The Chip is angled towards the D0 pin probably at 15 degree angle I would say. Make sure you smash the tape down good so it doesnt give after time.  

After I installed it, I smacked my box a few times and rattled it as well.  Seems like it is in there pretty good now.

I can now boot with EvolutionX.

This chip is probably fine, but dont expect ot have your box opened up and closed back up in 10 minutes if you have V1.1
from what I've read, this V has a tougher time with this chip.  

For the guy who asked where I went to school - Penn State.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: Morglum on May 21, 2003, 06:53:00 PM
Why post the same thing 4 times, no need for that is there, and you cant go claiming refresh button, look at the time gaps between posts. Whats going on with you? Are you deliberatly out to piss people off?
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: PENTIUM75 on May 21, 2003, 10:55:00 PM
QUOTE (bruce1271 @ May 20 2003, 09:10 PM)
Anyone have any brands they know works with the samsung drive?

My samsung reads everything I put in it, shit if I could burn on a piece of wood it would probably read it
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: rickyd on May 21, 2003, 11:48:00 PM
For those with a 1.1 that did not solder in the lpc  holes, you can try
aligning the D0 point and aligning the lpc points and the pogo
pin but make sure the pogo pins do NOT go into the holes.  I got this to work yesterday afternoon and it took me probably a little less than 30 mins to put it on the 1.1.  I had a solder gun ready to go but I wanted to see if I could get it to work without using it.  Good luck!
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: FIREitUP on May 22, 2003, 03:12:00 AM
muys retardos
1. x2lite has shitty pogos i've used both and i know that matrix's is much much better
2. dont judge a modchip until you use it.
3. i can't speak for the modchip, maybe its you maybe its just defective.
4.  stop fucking posting, loser.
5. if you are doing quantum physics and you have kids, then you have no time for xbox, you have better things to do.
6. get a life.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: ranciddc on May 22, 2003, 12:07:00 PM
does anyone have any pics of their chip with the tape under it. I too got a matrix just today and have a v1.1  I messed around for 3 hours same thing...would get the green light to flash for a half second then red in test mode. By reading this thread looks like i have a few choices 1) fill in the lpc with solder and solder the alternate d0 point 2) tape method or 3) get a new chip lol. thanks for any help in advance
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: SMP_Homer on May 23, 2003, 07:08:00 PM
I must be doing something wrong...

I've installed a whole bunch of these, 1.0 and 1.1, and the hardest part is the breathing...
I did find that not using a washer is easier to lign up... I don't even test, I just slip into Mode 2, place on the mobo, screw, and power, and I'm done.

And I haven't had a single one go loose on me yet, and a few travel regularly for gaming meets...
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: Morglum on May 23, 2003, 07:16:00 PM
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You'd be much better off soldering a set of header pins into the LPC holes and getting a chip that uses that, atleast then all you'll ever need to do is replace the chip, you can leave the pins in forever.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: beaumac on May 24, 2003, 12:56:00 PM
I think it is a  pos, i cant even program the stupid thing. any tips?
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Post by: rickyd on May 24, 2003, 01:15:00 PM
What kind of programming problems are you having?  I couldent flash it with the software windows based software because it said there was a problem erasing the device but I used wmilk instead.  Wmilk worked like a charm.
Title: Matrix Sucks
Post by: beaumac on May 24, 2003, 01:21:00 PM
well i wrote this in the other matrix prog thread but, everytime i open winLPC it says device not detected. the red light is on, the chip is fit on to the prog, the prog is fit into the LPT, the port settings are correct, I installed the getIO driver, i pinch the stupid thing together,   NOTHING.