Post by: frekkle on April 12, 2003, 06:07:00 AM
Post by: BenJeremy on April 12, 2003, 07:46:00 AM
It does have flash protection for the CPLD, doesn't it?
Post by: frekkle on April 12, 2003, 08:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 12 2003, 02:46 PM) |
| Nobody's mentioned it, but I hope they have flash protection on the CPLD, since it would be trivial for somebody (ahem, ::cough::M$::cough:: ) to screw up your modchip to the point of unusability. It does have flash protection for the CPLD, doesn't it? |
Ben a CPLD cant be writted to from LPC
Look at the pics, they left the Pins (like JTAG) so you can program it
Post by: BenJeremy on April 12, 2003, 08:47:00 AM
OK, seems like a feature that's a LOT more hype than useful to 99% of the users out there.
Likely you'd have some installer/retailers who might field-reprogram the CPLD. I can't see users buying a special programming cable to update the thing, though.
One would hope future mods with programmable CPLDs include the ability to program form the Xbox (with a flash protection jumper, of course)
Post by: frekkle on April 13, 2003, 05:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 12 2003, 03:47 PM) |
| Ah.... I missed that. OK, seems like a feature that's a LOT more hype than useful to 99% of the users out there. Likely you'd have some installer/retailers who might field-reprogram the CPLD. I can't see users buying a special programming cable to update the thing, though. One would hope future mods with programmable CPLDs include the ability to program form the Xbox (with a flash protection jumper, of course) |
bah... home brew programmers were built by people to update their flash
i dont see why they couldnt build a simple JTAG
its only some sires on a LPT port
Post by: nasis x. on April 13, 2003, 09:01:00 AM
I don't really see anything useful than the led changing colour...
Let's start from the installation of this modchip:
- As a matrix add-on all those features go away, but only a biger space has been added in the Flash Rom.
- Quick Solder is not recomended cause in case of a wrong flash,
you will have to unistall the pcb, cause your Xbox will require service...
- Pin Header, the modchip will be upside down, so forget all the dip switch, leds and fancy things...
Software controllable features
Nowdays, All LPC mods are software controllable with EvoX software.
Flash On board tsop
All LPC mods can flash the onboard tsop, and this is possible only for V1.0 consoles.
The meaning of flashing the onboard tsop, is to install the modchip to boot evoX, and then remove it.
This feature is useless:
- As a matrix add on (cause matrix is much more easier to flash onboard tsop)
- Quick Solder, cause then you can't remove the chip after the installation cause it is soldered on the mobo.
- Pin Header, any LPC can do with Plug&Hack actions.
DIP Switches
A cheapmod can be fully controlled with software, without the need of dip switches.
What is the advantage of adding wires and dip switches???
Front panel buttons support
A clever switch is a must in all new modchips,
with the only disadvantage of the addition points to solder.
I thought that Chameleon was offering this feature with software.
What is the usage of this function and the extra soldering???
1Megabyte (8Mbits) FlashROM
This is the only extra feature that I can see.
Of course the extra space is also useless cause 4 bioses is nothing,
compared to the 1000+ that can be uploaded in Xbox HD!
So many features combined togather,
with the only possible result to confuse the end user without a perpose...
The led may be nice to control it with software,
but why don't you get a lighter to do so, than messing up with Xbox???
Post by: xBaNaNaEv0LuTiOnx on April 13, 2003, 09:36:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| - Quick Solder is not recomended cause in case of a wrong flash, |
| QUOTE |
| - Quick Solder, cause then you can't remove the chip after the installation cause it is soldered on the mobo. |
if you take your time and work carefully, u can remove the mod without any damage to the mobo or LPC points
| QUOTE |
| The meaning of flashing the onboard tsop, is to install the modchip to boot evoX, and then remove it. |
maybe some people just want to leave the chip in there, ever thought of that? i myself have the onboard tsop flashed as a "backup" incase my matrix ever decides to crap out (no realignment
).| QUOTE |
| 1Megabyte (8Mbits) FlashROM This is the only extra feature that I can see. Of course the extra space is also useless cause 4 bioses is nothing, compared to the 1000+ that can be uploaded in Xbox HD! |
i dont remember a modchip/bios that loads the bioses off the harddrive as of yet, care to prove me wrong?
Post by: Samara on April 13, 2003, 11:42:00 AM
Ravencry's threads are fun because it's entirely obvious that he's either the biggest Xodus fanboy in the world or an actual employee.
Post by: nautiazn85 on April 13, 2003, 03:34:00 PM
Sure a lot of immature Matrix users were spending too much time bashing the X2:Lite, but the key word was that they were "immature."
The Chamelon has a lot of features the Matrix and X2:Lite has, that is what's so great about it. It combines both chips into one nice little chip, and even throws in a little bit of it's own innovation.
It doesn't have to be used as an "add-on" it can be used an a stand-alone chip, which is probably what it'll be used most for. Sure if you use it as an add-on, there are only a few new features, but if you use it as a stand-alone chip, it's a cheap, and easy solution!
Put it this way, it's better than Nasis_X's chip, and the X2:Lite, and it's about half the price of both of those chips. So why complain unless you're a complete fan boy?
Post by: nautiazn85 on April 13, 2003, 03:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (james_row @ Apr 13 2003, 04:12 PM) |
| Somebody buy nasis zyx stuff to stop this nagging bitch from whining everytime he sees an oportunity to do so (which is when there's a new post regardless of the topic) |
Whomever buys nasis_x's stuff is either extremely rich and doesn't care about paying a bit extra for no apparent reason, or is naive. Simply put it, nobody in their right mind would pay the premium it costs for Nasis's chips.
And even if you do buy his chip, that won't shut him up, it'll just make him post more. He'll think that his posts is what is drawing in customers. If you want him to shut up, either ignore him, or get a smart administrator to ban him.
Post by: nasis x. on April 13, 2003, 10:00:00 PM
A modchip that is offering you many ways to install it,
doesn't mean that has many features,
cause in the end you will have to use only one of them...
You can't say that by using it as an add on you gain anything,
cause you are losing the most of the features, like software controllable mod.
You can't say that it can flash the onboard tsop,
as long as you solder the chip in the mobo and you can't remove the chip afterwards.
Meanwhile, using the onboard tsop as a backup bios, is not a clever idea,
cause as long as you boot from the tsop, then you can't flash an LPC mod...
So, by installing Chameleon with diferent ways, you get diferent features.
Or, to be more clear, if you want to get all the features, you have to change installation everytime...
This is exactly what X-elixis does, but with easy Plug&Hack actions!
No soldering required, exept from X-elixis LPC connector!
Our Plug-Ins:
X-elixis Basic
X-elixis Plug-In
SST49LF020
Coming next week:
X-elixis Programmer
Matrix
Chameleon
X2 Lite
X2 Pro
Xecuter 1
Cheapmod
X-elixis Lpcmod
Any future LPC mod!
Coming soon:
Xtension Switch
Smart mod
IR mod
So, as you can see, I didn't said that X-elixis can do everything,
combining the features of all the above Plug-Ins/modchips,
BUT if you plug THIS you get THIS...
Chameleon is mixing diferent installation ways and diferent modchips,
to increase the list of possible features, without refering what is exactly needed...
X-elixis does all those things, with Plug&Hack way!
Post by: Samara on April 13, 2003, 11:24:00 PM
Oh God now they are fighting.
Post by: frekkle on April 14, 2003, 02:18:00 AM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 14 2003, 05:00 AM) |
| You can't say that by using it as an add on you gain anything, cause you are losing the most of the features, like software controllable mod. |
Nasis if you dont know what you are talking about then shut up!
Nobody said you will loose Software controll when you install it differently
The software control is controlled by the LPC points!
So give it up all ready and go back to your plastic mods
and quit bashing something you have no idea about.
OR even better, if you think you are so good
with what you do, Make your own site/forum
and start charging lessons on
"How to select your own mod without using your own intelligence"
Who knows? You might even make money from it.
Post by: frekkle on April 14, 2003, 02:19:00 AM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 13 2003, 04:01 PM) |
| Software controllable features Nowdays, All LPC mods are software controllable with EvoX software. |
Let me see your XelixShit do what Xodus showed on their site.
You say all mods have software control?
proove it you moron
Or even tell me what YOU think Software Controll is
(this guy is really pissing me off now)
Post by: nasis x. on April 14, 2003, 03:35:00 AM
Taken from Chameleon Chart table:
1. Software Controllable Features (Other mods --> NO)
All modchips can be controlled by EvoX that can directly upgrade the Bios.
Evolution-X is the software that X-elixis Programmer will control Chameleon...
2. LED Indication (Other mods --> NO)
If you see a red led in Xbox, then you definatelly know that is X-elixis.
Matrix has a green or flashing light...
3. Installation Methods
They forgot to mention wires...
4. TSOP Flashing Function (Other mods --> NO)
All LPC mods can flash the onboard tsop. Link
5. DIP Switches (Other mods --> NO)
A fully controllable modchip with software, DO NOT need DIP switches!
Chameleon though requires???
6. Pre-Flashed BIOS (Other mods --> NO)
This is a unique feature from Chameleon... ha ha ha
7. Front panel buttons support (Other mods --> NO)
Are we joking???
8. Expansion Port (Other mods --> NO)
Let me remind you that X-elixis LPC connector is the 1st Expansion Port.
Next week will be compatible with ALL MODCHIPS...
9. Flash with a Programmer (Other mods --> NO)
The only mod in town that can be flashed from a programmer...
I do mine with a photografic flash method...
One is the fact:
Xodus will finally release their Matrix Add-On!
It doesn't matter if it isn't working on the newest Xbox versions,
it doesn't matter if the comparison chart is based 90% on lies,
we will support it as a 1Mb X-elixis Plug-In!
Post by: frekkle on April 14, 2003, 04:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 14 2003, 10:35 AM) |
| Now you pissed me guys: Taken from Chameleon Chart table: 1. Software Controllable Features (Other mods --> NO) All modchips can be controlled by EvoX that can directly upgrade the Bios. Evolution-X is the software that X-elixis Programmer will control Chameleon... 2. LED Indication (Other mods --> NO) If you see a red led in Xbox, then you definatelly know that is X-elixis. Matrix has a green or flashing light... 3. Installation Methods They forgot to mention wires... 4. TSOP Flashing Function (Other mods --> NO) All LPC mods can flash the onboard tsop. Link 5. DIP Switches (Other mods --> NO) A fully controllable modchip with software, DO NOT need DIP switches! Chameleon though requires??? 6. Pre-Flashed BIOS (Other mods --> NO) This is a unique feature from Chameleon... ha ha ha 7. Front panel buttons support (Other mods --> NO) Are we joking??? 8. Expansion Port (Other mods --> NO) Let me remind you that X-elixis LPC connector is the 1st Expansion Port. Next week will be compatible with ALL MODCHIPS... 9. Flash with a Programmer (Other mods --> NO) The only mod in town that can be flashed from a programmer... I do mine with a photografic flash method... One is the fact: Xodus will finally release their Matrix Add-On! It doesn't matter if it isn't working on the newest Xbox versions, it doesn't matter if the comparison chart is based 90% on lies, we will support it as a 1Mb X-elixis Plug-In! |
you stupid idiot!
You dont know what software controll is!
Are you a retard? I guess you are!
SOFTWARE CONTROLL IS NOT FLASHING YOUR CHIP!
Its the ability to Select Banks (without changing the dips) and more (EOS)
NO Tsop flashing is not done with every LPC mod (You have to add additiontal hardware to do it)
What Xodus say is that you can do it With no aditional hardware to add ro buy (EOS)
Yes Dips are there because you have a default selction you want to use (and software controll is there to overide the settings when you want to change them with software) (EOS)
Dont forget that dips can change modes (not only banks) (EOS)
They say Preflashed LINUX auto update bios! (not just a preflashed chip (EOS)
Yes Front panel switches (whats so funny about that ? ITs another way to boot up with a different mode (EOS)
Expansion port! you call an Xelisis LPC Connector a Mod chip? NO its an addon... Chameleon has it built on! You are saying you have to buy an expensive addon to compete to a CHIP with everything on it?
Yes it can be used with a programmer (let me see your XelixSHit recover a bad flash) I sorry I forgot I can just buy another moded xbox and use your shit idea to take off the chip of that and reflash it (MORON!) (EOS)
Who said chameleon cant work on Newer xbox's? You can install it on the New v1.2 either with solder or with a future non solder adaptor (EOS)
If you really like to play with your stupidity then go play with that kid arround the block!
You are getting smashed by everyone in this forum... dont you get the point? You are an idiot!
But then again, you like it and come back for more! and more!
and because you are and idiot i know that you dont know what (EOS) is
Do yourself a favour and stop humiliating yourself and your products
End of Sotry
Post by: nasis x. on April 14, 2003, 05:59:00 AM
| QUOTE (frekkle @ Apr 14 2003, 12:10 PM) |
| If you really like to play with your stupidity then go play with that kid arround the block! You are getting smashed by everyone in this forum... dont you get the point? You are an idiot! But then again, you like it and come back for more! and more! and because you are and idiot i know that you dont know what (EOS) is Do yourself a favour and stop humiliating yourself and your products End of Sotry |
Because you are calling bad names to me that doesn't mean anything...
You may see people in these forums talking bullshit under my name (Nazis X.),
and you may also see people that their posting exclusivelly to flame GRmods products...
I am coming here as a modchip developer and user of xbox scene forums to say my opinion,
without flaming or calling bad names to anyone...
So, it is as clear as you gonna read the following lines:
You are a LIAR if you support Xodus team, that claims in their web page that:
1. No other mod is software controlable (Link)
2. No other mod is using Led (Link)
3. No other mod is capable to flash the onboard tsop (Link)
4. No other mod is using Expansion Port (Link)
Post by: Ubergeek on April 14, 2003, 06:30:00 AM
Post by: frekkle on April 14, 2003, 07:01:00 AM
As i said with Chameleon, "I've got to get me one of those"
I always do when i see something new and cool
Post by: nasis x. on April 14, 2003, 08:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (Shafted! @ Apr 14 2003, 02:18 PM) |
| It seems to me that you have a misunderstanding of 'software controllable.' I checked out the link, your modchip does all for the flashing of a new bios via evolution-x, but that is not the same thing as xodus' 'software controllable.' The chameleon uses software controlabe as meaning, you use the dashboard to change what bank of the 1mb you want to start from. Your mod chip does not allow this to the best of my knowledge. I'm not bashing your chip, just trying to clarify things out. |
First of all I have to clear up that I don't have anything against this new chip,
but my opinion is that it doesn't offer anything new...
Chameleon is using dashboard to control which of the 4 parts will start from.
Thats great!
Cheapmods are using dashboard to control which bios will be flashed on the chip,
and will start from.
This is much better cause in the 1Mb chip you can store only 4 bioses,
while in a 4Gb Hd space you can upload unlimited bioses...
So, i want to make it clear once again,
that flashing the modchip with software is very easy,
and last only 4 sec, while it can be done more than 100000 times!
All modchips are software controllable,
while 1Mb chips are a way more confusing than 256Kb ones,
cause they require from you to use your PC and Special software,
to make a 1x1024Kb=4x256Kb that you will finally end up uploading to the HD,
to flash it with EvoX software.
Why don't have them uploaded all in the Xbox, and flash them when you need them???
Post by: Ubergeek on April 14, 2003, 08:08:00 AM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 14 2003, 04:04 PM) | ||
First of all I have to clear up that I don't have anything against this new chip, but my opinion is that it doesn't offer anything new... Chameleon is using dashboard to control which of the 4 parts will start from. Thats great! Cheapmods are using dashboard to control which bios will be flashed on the chip, and will start from. This is much better cause in the 1Mb chip you can store only 4 bioses, while in a 4Gb Hd space you can upload unlimited bioses... So, i want to make it clear once again, that flashing the modchip with software is very easy, and last only 4 sec, while it can be done more than 100000 times! All modchips are software controllable, while 1Mb chips are a way more confusing than 256Kb ones, cause they require from you to use your PC and Special software, to make a 1x1024Kb=4x256Kb that you will finally end up uploading to the HD, to flash it with EvoX software. Why don't have them uploaded all in the Xbox, and flash them when you need them??? |
man you have absolutley no idea what you are talking about
go back to the ps2 scene where you had at least a noob amount of knowledge
oh and fekkle - you will REALLY say you've gots to get me one of those when you see the puppy ive got coming
in fact im sure ill fix you up on the beta program so you can give me some of your good input
Post by: xBaNaNaEv0LuTiOnx on April 14, 2003, 08:18:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| Cheapmods are using dashboard to control which bios will be flashed on the chip, and will start from. |
cheapmods basically "override/replace" the bios through the LPC points, the dashboard has nothing to do with what it boots from.
| QUOTE |
| This is much better cause in the 1Mb chip you can store only 4 bioses, while in a 4Gb Hd space you can upload unlimited bioses... |
true, but you still have to edit the evox.ini file to accomindate the new bioses and flash commands
| QUOTE |
| All modchips are software controllable, while 1Mb chips are a way more confusing than 256Kb ones, |
you have my pity if 1MB chips confuse you. and for reference, as long as the flash chip is declared in the evox.ini file with the right parameters, newer versions of EvoX will make the image fit before flashing (ie. making a 256k to 1MB or 512k to 256k AUTOMATICALLY)
| QUOTE |
| Chameleon is using dashboard to control which of the 4 parts will start from. Thats great! |
at least i agree with you on this
Post by: nautiazn85 on April 14, 2003, 08:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (james_row @ Apr 14 2003, 08:25 AM) |
| More like...Fantasy turned into insanity. Oh by the way, if you buy an X-elixi$hit, you can use it as a bookmark and a door stop. Those are only two of the features but those are the most you can do with it. nautiazn85, How can you take me seriously? My post was full of sarcasm all over the place. Sorry, it wasn't obvious to you. And ignoring him won't do no good as you can probably see already. You can beat him with a stick, take his X-elixi$hit, turn it sideways, and shove it up his f'n a$$, but you can't stop him from giving his intelligent (gwarrkk -i'm puking) insight on things. To quote you, last resort is smart administrators, |
My apologies... I really didn't know it was sarcasm.
On a side note:
As for Nasis_X, your arguments are terrible, and so is your product. Quit bashing please, especially when your product is horrible. Where did all the smart administrators go? (We should conduct a poll to ban Nasis_X from this forum, it would be something out of Survivor).
Post by: frekkle on April 14, 2003, 08:53:00 AM
Thats it, I am editing my Signature!
Post by: nasis x. on April 14, 2003, 09:45:00 AM
when you don't have any thing to say you start flaming all togather...
Before I leave this discusion,
I want to say that new features are those that really offering something new.
Something that you may phase in the real Xbox hacking,
and not fancy features under new names...
I still want to see:
- How you will expand the mod if it is hooked upside down on Pin Headers?
- How you will remove it if it is quick soldered after flashing the onboard tsop?
- How you will disolder the chip and all the extra wires and dip switches, to program it with a programmer?
- What extra usage this software controlable chip will offer?
Of course I would like to remind you that Chameleon has totally failled as a Matrix Add-on,
based on a non-steady and non-compatible with newest Xbox, base...
In the end,
X-elixis Programmer Plug-In will be ready soon,
where new features will be definatelly added to the current design,
and compatibility with all other Plug-Ins, Modchips and Versions has perfectly taken care.
Our designs are giving the end user only one possible way to go,
cause even the 0.01 mm is important for Safe console Hacking.
Don't take it as an advertaisment cause we have nothing against Chameleon,
that is our suggested low voltage 1Mb chip,
when 256 Kb bios are only available for the moment...
So, keep on hacking under "Software Control",
while we Plug&hacking with "Modchips Control"!
Post by: frekkle on April 14, 2003, 10:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 14 2003, 04:45 PM) |
| I still want to see: - How you will expand the mod if it is hooked upside down on Pin Headers? - How you will remove it if it is quick soldered after flashing the onboard tsop? - How you will disolder the chip and all the extra wires and dip switches, to program it with a programmer? - What extra usage this software controlable chip will offer? |
1. expand it with wires! besides, have you seen the chip? you can use the dips upside down also
2. you wouldnt solder it if you want to TSOP flsh it you dick,
3. ever heard of a pin header install?
4. something your little brain will never understand...
and yes chameleon does work with the v1.2
now fuck off before i really do something nasty
Post by: nautiazn85 on April 14, 2003, 03:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 14 2003, 04:45 PM) |
| I still want to see: - How you will expand the mod if it is hooked upside down on Pin Headers? - How you will remove it if it is quick soldered after flashing the onboard tsop? - How you will disolder the chip and all the extra wires and dip switches, to program it with a programmer? - What extra usage this software controlable chip will offer? |
Okay I will actually spend time to answer your questions nasis, since you pee-sized brain can't seem to come up with them yourself. In addition I'm going to add comments to why your chip sucks.
Question: How you will expand the mod if it is hooked upside down on Pin Headers?
Answer: Quite simply, Team Xodus will have to adapt any new hardware (add-ons) to its own hardware configuration. Now this can be done by either forcing users to solder new add-ons onto the chip, or building a design that wouldn't need to be soldered. Also remember that the Pin Header installation is only ONE method of the three available on the XODUS. All this for $25!
Why does Nasis_X's chip sucks: a.)Your chip only offers one method of installation, in addition it has NO leds. You've came up with NO HARDWARE add-ons (talk about innovation).
b.) In addition, how the fuck do you know "users can't see the led once the chip is installed by pin headers." Have you seen the finalized product?
c.) Plus your shitty chip is about double the price of the Chamelon.
Question: How you will remove it if it is quick soldered after flashing the onboard tsop?
Answer: It's pretty simple actually Nasis_X, if you knew anything about soldering, you'd already know this. You can simply use a de-soldering braid (wick)/solder suction bulb with a soldering iron to remove the solder. It's actually not a difficult process, but as always, it should be conducted by a professional.
Why does Nasis_X's chip sucks: Your chip only offers the "quick" installation. It doesn't allow for pin header or pogo pin installation. If you think people can't remove the Chamelon after a "quick" solder, how the fuck are they going to remove yours (other than yanking your stupid add-on out, but even then you have the base of the chip still soldered in)?
Question: How you will disolder the chip and all the extra wires and dip switches, to program it with a programmer?
Answer: First of all, it's "de-solder," not disolder. If you install by pogo pins or pin header installation, it's easy to remove. A newbie could do that. If you installed by "quick" installation with Chamelon, "it's pretty simple actually Nasis_X, if you knew anything about soldering, you'd already know this. You can simply use a de-soldering braid (wick)/solder suction bulb with a soldering iron to remove the solder. It's actually not a difficult process, but as always, it should be conducted by a professional."
Why does Nasis_X's chip sucks: Okay I'll give you one thing, your "plug-in" mod is supposed to be easy to remove. But the Chamelon, installed by pogo pins or header pins is just as easy to remove. Best of all the Chamelon once again... only costs about half the price of your chip.
Question: What extra usage this software controlable chip will offer?
Answer: First of all, it'll allow you to have backup bios's in case of a bad flash. Second of all, it'll allow you to have multiple bios's without the need to re-flash each time you want a new bios. Third, it'll allow any user to switch to a different bios without getting up (instead of using external switches to switch bios). Last of all, it's an awesome development tool so that you can test multiple bios's, and still have a valid bios on your chip.
Why does Nasis_X's chip sucks: Your stinking chip only allows for ONE 256k BIOS! Don't give me that bull shit that people can place multiple bios's on their hard drive. They would have to re-flash the chip each time, and not does that deduce the lifespan of the chip, but it's also a pain in the ass! In addition, one bad flash of your chip, and say buh bye. Your users will have to pay for a new external programmer to fix the chip. Not with the Chamelon, because with the Chamelon you'll have 4 BIOS's (only a COMPLETE dumbass would be able to ruin all 4 banks).
All-in-all nasis, your chip stinks. It's a design exploited from Andy's, and sold for a premium price. Whomever buys your chip is a COMPLETE dumbass, and should be hit in the head by a 4x2 to knock some sense into him/her. As a professional installer with a lot of customers on this forum, I would recommend EVERYBODY to stay away from Nasis's chip. Boycott it
Post by: frekkle on April 14, 2003, 03:40:00 PM
Want to Laugh your head off even more?
go to his idiotic website and check out the wording
he sounds like a drugged 5 year old!
Post by: nasis x. on April 14, 2003, 11:11:00 PM
Chameleon is a new modchip, welcomed as any other new development!
We also suggest this Plug-In as 1Mb X-elixis Add-On...
We have told Xodus team right from these forums,
that if they wanted to build something nice,
thaty sold make it as X-elixis Plug-In!
They could have saved ALL these sockets and pin headers,
providing their customers with user-friendly and usefull Plug&Hack functionality,
on a reduced cost...
They have chosen to go as a matrix Add-On,
that is non-compatible with newest versions of Xbox...
What do you gain if you Chameleon as X-elixis Plug-In ???
1. Plug&Hack functionality!
All the soldering will be done once and for all, to X-elixis LPC connector!
A special designed Flaxible film of 0.08 mm thikness, can be soldered sooooo easy over the LPC Bus,
compared to the 1 mm thikness hard pcb. If you want to remove the chip, then you simply unplug it without needing to de-solder anything!
2. Chameleon Programmer!
By unpluging Chameleon from X-elixis LPC connector, you can Plug X-elixis Basic Plug-In,
or any other LPC modchip you have access, and recover a bad flash!
It is soooo easy as: Plug X-Basic --> Boot EvoX --> Unplug X-Basic --> Plug Chameleon --> Recover!
3. Modchip Programmer!
With the same easy way you can recover your friends modchip! it is sooooo easy!
Plug Chameleon --> Boot EvoX --> Unplug Chameleon --> Plug your frinds modchip and recover!
4. Program your SST49LF020!
If you chose X-elixs Plug-In, you may also program your SST! it is soooo easy!
Plug SST(programed) --> Boot EvoX --> Unplug SST --> Plug SST(unprogramed) --> Program!
Of course if you use X-elixis Plug-In you gonna discover that it is sooo easy that Chameleon is not needed. For this reason Chameleon is usefull only for bigger bioses than 256Kb that currently don't exist!
5. X-elixis Compatibility:
X-elixis design is based on extendibility!
All Plug-Ins are compatible togather, and each one is giving REAL new features to the existing designs!
Xtension Switch is the way to work externally with your modchips!
Do all the above tasks with your Xbox closed, Safe and Easy, avoiding an electrical sock!
If you want to go on XBox Live, simple unplug the mod, and be 100% sure,
that M$ won't detect anything!
sorry, now I got to go, cause I am building X-elixs Pro today and I am late...
Post by: james_row on April 15, 2003, 01:02:00 AM
| QUOTE |
It is not right to talk about other mods in Chameleon Chart... |
Then why the f*** do you keep on mentioning your X-elixi$hit
| QUOTE |
Chameleon is a new modchip, welcomed as any other new development! We also suggest this Plug-In as 1Mb X-elixis Add-On... We have told Xodus team right from these forums, that if they wanted to build something nice, thaty sold make it as X-elixis Plug-In! They could have saved ALL these sockets and pin headers, providing their customers with user-friendly and usefull Plug&Hack functionality, on a reduced cost... They have chosen to go as a matrix Add-On, that is non-compatible with newest versions of Xbox... |
Reduced cost? at an added profit to you? To whose expense? Who the f*** are you trying to kid here, bozzo? What are you trying to pull man?
| QUOTE |
What do you gain if you Chameleon as X-elixis Plug-In ??? 1. Plug&Hack functionality! All the soldering will be done once and for all, to X-elixis LPC connector! A special designed Flaxible film of 0.08 mm thikness, can be soldered sooooo easy over the LPC Bus, compared to the 1 mm thikness hard pcb. If you want to remove the chip, then you simply unplug it without needing to de-solder anything! |
What do you loose/have to spend spend: $50
| QUOTE |
2. Chameleon Programmer! By unpluging Chameleon from X-elixis LPC connector, you can Plug X-elixis Basic Plug-In, or any other LPC modchip you have access, and recover a bad flash! It is soooo easy as: Plug X-Basic --> Boot EvoX --> Unplug X-Basic --> Plug Chameleon --> Recover! |
What do you loose/ have to spend: Another $50
| QUOTE |
3. Modchip Programmer! With the same easy way you can recover your friends modchip! it is sooooo easy! Plug Chameleon --> Boot EvoX --> Unplug Chameleon --> Plug your frinds modchip and recover! |
It is soooooo easy, you don't even need an x-elixi$hit at all, unless you're in dire need of a bookmark.
| QUOTE |
4. Program your SST49LF020! If you chose X-elixs Plug-In, you may also program your SST! it is soooo easy! Plug SST(programed) --> Boot EvoX --> Unplug SST --> Plug SST(unprogramed) --> Program! |
OMG, so you actually believe that cheapMods are not using SST49LF020? OMG, this has got to be the biggest proof of your stupidity
| QUOTE |
Of course if you use X-elixis Plug-In you gonna discover that it is sooo easy that Chameleon is not needed. For this reason Chameleon is usefull only for bigger bioses than 256Kb that currently don't exist! |
You got your head so mixed up that you forgot that your x-elixi$hit is an adaptor, not a modchip. And what's an adaptor without a chip, a $50 worth of BS.
| QUOTE |
5. X-elixis Compatibility: X-elixis design is based on extendibility! All Plug-Ins are compatible togather, and each one is giving REAL new features to the existing designs! Xtension Switch is the way to work externally with your modchips! Do all the above tasks with your Xbox closed, Safe and Easy, avoiding an electrical sock! If you want to go on XBox Live, simple unplug the mod, and be 100% sure, that M$ won't detect anything! |
Your missing a few item XWires, Xlead, XFlux, XSolder,XGrease,XHot Air. All plug-ins must be joined together till it's about a kilometer long, then it probably would work. Nice and sooooo easy -you don't need anything except a truck load of money.
| QUOTE |
sorry, now I got to go, cause I am building X-elixs Pro today and I am late... |
OMG, this is gonna be hilarious. X-elixi$hit basic is funny, wait till you hear about this one. There's gonna be a f'n explosion, I tell you.
Post by: hertzsae on April 15, 2003, 01:18:00 AM
The Chameleon looks like a great chip, especially for that price.
However, that chart of thiers linked in the first post is the biggest bunch of misleading bull I have ever seen. If they had put an X2 lite or pro in that chart, you would probably see a little more green. Thats why I have so much respect for Uber, the best always love to compete on even ground. He'll give an exact comparison of his chip. And when he releases pogo-pins he says why you shouldn't buy them, but still lets the buyer have what they want.
I have an x2 lite right now and I don't ever plan on buying another chip. However, I hope Uber changes my mind with his next chip!
Post by: frekkle on April 15, 2003, 02:51:00 AM
f** off and stop trying to make money from another product by fooling people
(yes, who ever bought any type of X-elix$shit is a fool to beleive that a flex pcb + cheapmod is worth 55$)
note to nasis: the more you go on, the more flaming you shall get by everyone that knows you and your bullsh*t.
Post by: Ubergeek on April 15, 2003, 07:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (Samara @ Apr 15 2003, 07:49 AM) |
| Not sure if Ubergeek is still reading this but speaking as a satisifed X2 Pro user with a pin header install I think I speak for a lot of people when I say please do your best to make it use the work that has already been done. |
im always reading bud
question for nasis x
what does his shit do that we (xecuter) and xodus haven't already done ?
what is his chip GOING to do that we or xodus havent done
you should also ask what we are about to do that no ones done yet
you're always gonna play the cloner mokey boy nasisx - deal with it
Post by: Ubergeek on April 15, 2003, 07:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (hertzsae @ Apr 15 2003, 09:18 AM) |
| However, that chart of thiers linked in the first post is the biggest bunch of misleading bull I have ever seen. If they had put an X2 lite or pro in that chart, you would probably see a little more green. Thats why I have so much respect for Uber, the best always love to compete on even ground. He'll give an exact comparison of his chip. And when he releases pogo-pins he says why you shouldn't buy them, but still lets the buyer have what they want. I have an x2 lite right now and I don't ever plan on buying another chip. However, I hope Uber changes my mind with his next chip! |
Thanks for the kind comments
Yes we do hope to change your mind with the next design - of course no comparison charts needed - it does everything that EVERY mod (released and unreleased) does plus a couple more funky features which will definatley take mods (and bios's and xbe's) in a new direction
I promise no hype or whatever - we'll announce the day its finished (or at least ready for testing) - then you can all make your own minds up
Im sure chameleon is a great chip - certainley a good price, and will be a great add on for many matrix uers. I have absolute respect for xodus and evox even though we have creative and competitive differences at times (all part of the fun
)But competition is what its all about and if anyone out there wants to throw their hat into the ring - bring it on
Post by: Ubergeek on April 15, 2003, 07:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 15 2003, 02:17 PM) |
| On the subject of nasis x.'s ragging on the header connection: The simple solution is for chip makers (listening Ubergeek?) to KEY THE SOCKET. A simple bit of plastic, stuck in the position of the LPC there there's no hole anyway would prevent dumbasses who can't be bothered to actually LOOK at pics of a proper installation from plugging in their mods incorrectly. Does Chameleon do this? Hopefully, the X3 will |
there's only so much dumbing down we can do bro
Post by: BenJeremy on April 15, 2003, 08:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Apr 15 2003, 10:43 AM) | ||
there's only so much dumbing down we can do bro |
Heh, heh... yeah, I still find it amazing that people actually install the header and D0, using, apparently, ancient diagrams for homebrews or something, never once looking at an actual pic of how the X2 is positioned on the header (yes, people actually do that).
Even I keep pics handy and double check EVERYTHING I do inside a console... I always question every least little thing I do for fear of screwing something up.
What's totally unbelievable (yet it happens) is when these dufuses end up blowing things up because they lack the simple common sense to look at a picture.
Anyways, the X2 is still the king, and we're still waiting on the Chameleon. Have they even shipped Matrixes lately???!?
Post by: Ubergeek on April 15, 2003, 08:46:00 AM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 15 2003, 04:03 PM) |
| What's totally unbelievable (yet it happens) is when these dufuses end up blowing things up because they lack the simple common sense to look at a picture. |
and when this happens of course the mod is faulty, xecuter sucks, i installed it perfect etc etc
i get this all the time
Post by: nasis x. on April 15, 2003, 08:54:00 AM
| QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Apr 15 2003, 03:37 PM) | ||
Yes we do hope to change your mind with the next design - of course no comparison charts needed - it does everything that EVERY mod (released and unreleased) does plus a couple more funky features which will definatley take mods (and bios's and xbe's) in a new direction I promise no hype or whatever - we'll announce the day its finished (or at least ready for testing) - then you can all make your own minds up Im sure chameleon is a great chip - certainley a good price, and will be a great add on for many matrix uers. I have absolute respect for xodus and evox even though we have creative and competitive differences at times (all part of the fun )But competition is what its all about and if anyone out there wants to throw their hat into the ring - bring it on |
This is it!
I love this part of the game,
cause I thought that the whole party was ended...
X-elixis also have big plans for the future, with one basic goal:
X-elixis will support all previous and future users,
regardless of what LPC modchip they are using or thinking to use!
Welcome to the 3rd Dimension!
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One final definition is that Chameleon is definatelly a nice mod!
The Chameleon chart though has nothing to do with the reality,
as also some flames about X-elixis prices that are totally faulse!
Real Prices of X-elixis can be found here
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Post by: Ubergeek on April 15, 2003, 08:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 15 2003, 04:54 PM) |
| X-elixis also have big plans for the future, with one basic goal: X-elixis will support all previous and future users, regardless of what LPC modchip they are using or thinking to use! |
dude, you couldn't even develop herpes if you lived in a thailand brothel for 12 years let alone develop anything for the Xbox - give it a rest already
I was talking about REAL developers - not cloner monkey boys like you
Post by: nazis X. on April 15, 2003, 09:08:00 AM
| QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Apr 15 2003, 04:57 PM) | ||
dude, you couldn't even develop herpes if you lived in a thailand brothel for 12 years let alone develop anything for the Xbox - give it a rest already I was talking about REAL developers - not cloner monkey boys like you |
I second that thought.
Post by: frekkle on April 15, 2003, 09:17:00 AM
this is really funny
Yes Ben I got my batch of Matrix's and afaik they have stock now
Quote from the X-elixis so called site
"CAUTION: X-elixis can be used as a modchip, by your own risk!"
And its 5 euros mode to get a socket!! so called PRO
And the plastic costs 40Euro? thats 40-45$ !!!
Nasis please, take down your marketing plan and feed it to the Iraqy's
Make PISS not war
Post by: nautiazn85 on April 15, 2003, 02:23:00 PM
Post by: rjm2k on April 15, 2003, 02:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 15 2003, 03:54 PM) | ||||
This is it! I love this part of the game, cause I thought that the whole party was ended... X-elixis also have big plans for the future, with one basic goal: X-elixis will support all previous and future users, regardless of what LPC modchip they are using or thinking to use! Welcome to the 3rd Dimension! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One final definition is that Chameleon is definatelly a nice mod! The Chameleon chart though has nothing to do with the reality, as also some flames about X-elixis prices that are totally faulse! Real Prices of X-elixis can be found here ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
I have one question which I've asked you before and never had an answer, Has ANYONE actually bought any of these X-elixis chips? and if so, where from?
Post by: mirx999 on April 15, 2003, 02:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Apr 15 2003, 11:46 AM) | ||
and when this happens of course the mod is faulty, xecuter sucks, i installed it perfect etc etc i get this all the time |
Yeah I hate it when people do that on the xecuter forums. haven't seen you around there lately, uber. nice to have you back
Post by: hertzsae on April 15, 2003, 05:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (rjm2k @ Apr 15 2003, 05:44 PM) |
| I have one question which I've asked you before and never had an answer, Has ANYONE actually bought any of these X-elixis chips? and if so, where from? |
I'm getting one next week, I'll let you know how it works. My kitchen table is wobbly and it looks like the perfect size to prop up one of the legs. My buddy says to use a matchbook, but "X-elixis will support all previous and future users", so I'm going with that.
Post by: james_row on April 15, 2003, 10:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (hertzsae @ Apr 16 2003, 12:58 AM) |
| My kitchen table is wobbly and it looks like the perfect size to prop up one of the legs. My buddy says to use a matchbook, but "X-elixis will support all previous and future users", so I'm going with that. |
What??? I know X-elixi$hit is an all-in-one chip but I never imagined it could also be use as a table-leg prop. So you can use it as a bookmark, as a door stopper, and now as a table-leg prop? Man, the possibilities are endless with this chip. Next thing you'll know somebody will use this as a chopping board.
Post by: nazis X. on April 16, 2003, 12:46:00 AM
Post by: frekkle on April 16, 2003, 01:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (nazis X. @ Apr 16 2003, 07:46 AM) |
| X-Elixis PRO can do more than leg-prop and bookmark and stopdoor! It can tell TEMPURATURE of your eats! easy stick X-Elixis PRO into food and does it melt? YES so eats is done! Welcome to the 3nd DEMENSION! Had to get that one out of my system, sorry. |
lol
i heard nasis was arrested for running naked in public, nasis is this true?
Post by: nazis X. on April 16, 2003, 06:16:00 PM
Post by: BenJeremy on April 17, 2003, 05:18:00 AM
| QUOTE (kryo @ Apr 17 2003, 08:02 AM) |
| Ho ho ho Nice one guys Bunch of people makes a nice and good (or so it would seem) modchip for $25 - what's the logical way to comment it? Flame it to deepest hell! OF COURSE! Anyways it's by those, well, suspicious Xodus guys - after all they don't know shit about xbox-modding, since they're using the LPC! And besides made modding the xbox TOO EASY, like, u know, like even people who can't solder could do it! LIKE NO WAY like thats so lame... like! And then they make this $25 mod! LIKE THE BASTARDS! like! and then they actually make NEW FEATURES like WE WON'T ACCEPT THIS! And NO the features AREN'T good features! No f*cking way!... or something. Ehh... |
Well, the $25 part is nice.... but when there are questions about credibility, they have to be taken to task on these sorts of things. If Team Xodus had never engaged in outright deception in the past (the infamous 'comparison chart' incident), then features discussed MONTHS ago as 'working' that suddenly disappear on release might not raise too many eyebrows. After all, Team Xodus is the one who promised these features.... all some of us are doing is asking what happened to them (did they die of old age, waiting for the chip to get released?)
As I said before, I do plan on getting a Chameleon, and look forward to checking it out.
I'd just like to understand more fully what's hype and what's ripe.
Post by: nasis x. on April 17, 2003, 06:06:00 AM
1. Quick solder (the modchip is permenatelly installed)
2. Pin Header (Removeable)
3. Matrix Add-On (no soldering)
This doesn't mean that installation is
Quick+Removeable+No soldering
but you have to choose one of those installations and get diferent features...
All the hype is for Chameleon Chart that has nothing to do with the reality,
and NOT for Chameleon Modchip,
that has exactly as X2 series, limited installation advantages.
This can be clearly seen now on an experienced eye,
and in the future when add-ons will be very dificult to be connected,
that might require from you to uninstall the mod ending up with a destroyed modchip...
For this reason, I would like to thanks all the people above,
that made Chameleon Chart post as a funny thread,
exactly as the comparison chart that is posted in the official site...
Post by: BenJeremy on April 17, 2003, 07:08:00 AM
You see no adapter! For the two dimensional high voltage infidels are commiting short circuits at the gates of Gates! There is nothing to see but the failure of innovation and nonprogrammability! The mercenaries of Xodus and Xecutor are stupid infidels using stupid technology and will be struck down as the people rise up in quest of the holy three dimensional x-elexis! This Xecutor 2 and Chameleon are merely figments of infidel propaganda, as you will soon see!
Post by: Shafted! on April 17, 2003, 07:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 17 2003, 02:06 PM) |
| Some people cannot understand that there are 3 suggested ways of installation: 1. Quick solder (the modchip is permenatelly installed) |
And some people here fail to understand here that:
There is a magic device called a solder sucker, or soldapullit, or whatever, that allows for extremely removing of solder.
I've soldered some tough things before, but the solder header isn't anything bad or complex or anything that will result in a perm install.
WTF?
Post by: Ubergeek on April 17, 2003, 07:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (nasis x. @ Apr 17 2003, 02:06 PM) |
| that has exactly as X2 series, limited installation advantages. |
you have to be fucking joking yes ?
X2 were the first to offer multiple installation methods you dick head
we made the first solder-to-board pcb (although we dont use this now as many ppl had problems - just as many more will have problems now its been used again - I do believe its called learning from mistakes?)
we offered wire install and pin header install in the same package
we were also the first to offer optional adapters (pogos)
so get your fucking head out of your ass nasis-x - you need to learn some xbox modding history before you open your mouth in future
Post by: Ubergeek on April 17, 2003, 07:27:00 AM
| QUOTE (Shafted! @ Apr 17 2003, 03:09 PM) | ||
And some people here fail to understand here that: There is a magic device called a solder sucker, or soldapullit, or whatever, that allows for extremely removing of solder. I've soldered some tough things before, but the solder header isn't anything bad or complex or anything that will result in a perm install. WTF? |
as you know we made the first mod with this method (xecuter1)
I suggest you do some reading before saying its easy
we're talking about mostly noobs here - almost EVERYONE had trouble removing that mod whilst screwiung their boards
this is the reason it was scrapped
so for MANY yes it is permanent - hence the reason we changed on X2
Post by: nasis x. on April 17, 2003, 09:00:00 AM
that X-elixis film pcb thikness, varray from 0.3mm - 0.08mm.
The solder points is only 0.08 mm thikness!
This has nothing to do with hard pcbs that are 0.5 mm thikness,
and require longer time to heat with a solder iron,
till the soldering melt between Xbox LPC holes and modchip pcb.
Even if you solder 5 X-elixis Film pcbs, one over the other,
it will still be easier than installing an Xecuter1!
If you are proud for the diferent types of installation that Xecuter is using,
then I can tell you that X-elixis also can be installed with Pin Headers and Wires and Press&Fit connectors and from the bottom side of LPC Bus(!) and ++++
But we are supporting ONLY the best,
without leaving an non-experienced user to decide...
Meanwhile, having the absolute contor in the installation,
we can build our future Add-ons with high standarts,
supporting User-Friendly and Safe Console Hacking!
Your theory is based more on a bigger bios support,
that is useless for the moment...
We have also taken care about that, and it is as far as a Plug-In for us!
So, if you consider to upgrade your systems, think about building an X-elixis Plug-In...
Post by: Ubergeek on April 17, 2003, 01:13:00 PM
first you say we dont use different types of connectors - then you say we do
INNOVATE DONT IMMITATE MORON
Post by: nautiazn85 on April 17, 2003, 02:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Apr 17 2003, 02:08 PM) |
| nasis x. replies: You see no adapter! For the two dimensional high voltage infidels are commiting short circuits at the gates of Gates! There is nothing to see but the failure of innovation and nonprogrammability! The mercenaries of Xodus and Xecutor are stupid infidels using stupid technology and will be struck down as the people rise up in quest of the holy three dimensional x-elexis! This Xecutor 2 and Chameleon are merely figments of infidel propaganda, as you will soon see! |
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL! THAT WAS HILARIOUS! THANKS FOR THE LAUGH!