Post by: Marmite on January 12, 2003, 07:45:00 PM
Post by: Unregistered on January 12, 2003, 08:02:00 PM
$59 + $25 = $84
yeah rocket science there lol
and i dont need anyone to tell me to have "comun sence" who spells like a retard
get it ?
Post by: Unregistered on January 12, 2003, 08:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (Marmite @ Jan 13 2003, 03:45 AM) |
| the 1 mg adapter also doules as a chip itself. You can get the actual matrx for 45 at spotted horse, and it can flash the tsop. I think thats worth 45. I hope spotted horse offers the adapter for a cheaper price as well. |
you can flash the "TSOP" as you call it* with ANY lpc device and the neurosys device (cost less than $3) or the very simple xecuter 12c508 pic chip (3 wires and cost $0.50) - (*its not called TSOP, this is only what people with zero elctrical knowledge call it - i.e. Matrix Generation Newbies - its a Flash ROM that happens to be using a TSOP package - but i'm not going to get picky)
Post by: Marmite on January 12, 2003, 08:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (Unregistered @ Jan 13 2003, 04:06 AM) |
| - but i'm not going to get pricky) |
Too late.
Post by: Marmite on January 12, 2003, 08:27:00 PM
Post by: ZildjianKX on January 12, 2003, 08:40:00 PM
Post by: BenJeremy on January 12, 2003, 08:47:00 PM
At $25 for a 1MB chip, that would be pretty decent. Is that price just as an addon, or does it include whatever wiring hookups required to install it standalone too? Will the programmer be included?
It would be nice if Team Xodus could clear this up for us all, to avoid any misinformation.
Post by: blueinfinity on January 12, 2003, 08:49:00 PM
cheaper and u get more.
Post by: Marmite on January 12, 2003, 08:54:00 PM
Post by: blueinfinity on January 12, 2003, 09:01:00 PM
it allways has been...
it wont change now heh
Post by: Marmite on January 12, 2003, 09:25:00 PM
Post by: blueinfinity on January 12, 2003, 09:39:00 PM
i like the pro better if u want to go with large size
if not get a normal matrix
1mb isnt use dmuch except for those who know wut there doing
if your just a noob
stick with the normal chips
Post by: Unregistered on January 12, 2003, 10:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (ZildjianKX @ Jan 13 2003, 04:40 AM) |
| Still pretty sweet that a modchip maker is actually offering an upgrade, first time ever. |
what ?
LOL
Upgrades are offerd all the time for different mods
different features / different installs / add ons
you only have to look at what xecuter did with the LITE - gave a FREE design to make your own cable
what Matrix should be doing is offeering the designs for this upgrade FREE as their customers have already paid enough - why should they pay more for a product that should have had a full 1MB flash in the first place. Its common knowledge that the price difference between 256k and 1MB is only a $1 if you buy wholesale.
If they release for free (so it'll cost most people $3) then they would regain my respect
until then I think its a bit of a cheek asking $25 for something that they havent even released details of yet (even though its been announced for over a month)
I believe its mute anyway - only useful for current matrix owners
A cool thing for xecuter to do would be to get all matrix owners to send them their matrix chip and they give a $30 rebate against any xecuter mod - that'd be funny
Post by: nautiazn85 on January 12, 2003, 10:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (Unregistered @ Jan 13 2003, 02:07 AM) |
| I don't get it What they are saying is $59 for the 256k mod + $25 extra to upgrade it to 1MB = $84 and you support these guys ? |
Okay lets compare:
Matrix = $59
1 MB Mod = $25
Total = $84 for a matrix mod (WITH POGO PINS & PROGRAMMER) and a 1 MBIT EEPROM
X2:Pro = ??? (X2:Lite sells for ~$49 WITHOUT PROGRAMMER... so lets add an additional ten dollars and you get the same $59... maybe more?).
Pogo Pins = $22-$25 (they said it'd be really expensive)
Total = ~$84
SO in the end... it all ends up being about the same...
It all depends on what type of fan boy you are... obviously you're not a Matrix fan boy.
(oh yah.. I don't own either one... i got myself an aladdin universal
(aka CheapMod))
Post by: blueinfinity on January 12, 2003, 10:26:00 PM
the x2light is only 42
i think 8 bucks is worth it
check out the topic thats stickied in the sales section
Post by: ZildjianKX on January 12, 2003, 11:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (Unregistered @ Jan 12 2003, 09:07 PM) | ||
what ? LOL Upgrades are offerd all the time for different mods different features / different installs / add ons you only have to look at what xecuter did with the LITE - gave a FREE design to make your own cable what Matrix should be doing is offeering the designs for this upgrade FREE as their customers have already paid enough - why should they pay more for a product that should have had a full 1MB flash in the first place. Its common knowledge that the price difference between 256k and 1MB is only a $1 if you buy wholesale. If they release for free (so it'll cost most people $3) then they would regain my respect until then I think its a bit of a cheek asking $25 for something that they havent even released details of yet (even though its been announced for over a month) I believe its mute anyway - only useful for current matrix owners A cool thing for xecuter to do would be to get all matrix owners to send them their matrix chip and they give a $30 rebate against any xecuter mod - that'd be funny |
I'd have to disagree, the Matrix is the only upgrade to a modchip made so far so you don't have to run out and buy a new modchip like the Xecuter1 folks have to.
Saying that the matrix should have been 1 meg to start with is also like saying the X2 lite should have come with a cable to flash it in the first place, which I actually think is a stronger argument.
When the matrix came out, it was only the 2nd flash upgradeable modchip (Openxbox beat it), and the first evox flashable modchip. Even now if you're not running debug BIOS, 256k is enough.
Post by: BenJeremy on January 13, 2003, 05:59:00 AM
It took me a few times going over to understand you are implying that an Xecutor 1.x upgrade is what you are referring to.
Of course,you are absolutely WRONG in your equation, so I'm guessing that, instead of being an objective poster, you are a Matrix Fanboy posting with the usual FUD we've been seeing from fanboys on both sides.
FACT: There are documented options for upgrading with an Xecutor 1.x on the motherboard (so it seems that removal is not required, and you don't use the pogopins option with the upgrade)
FACT: No programmer is required, since the latest BIOS is on the Xecutor 2 Lite already.
So your "upgrade" is basically the cost of the X2L chip, $89 and a little soldering, to upgrade an even EARLIER modchip.
Rather than let this devolve with your misinformed start, I'm going to merge it with the other thread. X-S doesn't need another thread devolving into fanboy rants.
Post by: Marmite on January 13, 2003, 03:49:00 PM
Post by: veilside on January 13, 2003, 04:21:00 PM
sure xodus they may have some flaws in their ideas but what company doesn't (some more than others)? flame me for this if you'd like but think about it.
Post by: crackz0r on January 13, 2003, 05:13:00 PM