Post by: jcwacky on December 28, 2002, 10:10:00 AM
Post by: Knuck3ls on December 28, 2002, 11:03:00 AM
4) LED's? No need for X2
5) If you can solder, don't need a tester mode..
6) X2 has flash protection jumper as well..
7) From my experience, mode 3 is NOT safe for Xbox Live..
8) Tech support? If it's so great, you don't need it! (J/k, I did have a problem with my matrix before, and they do have great tech support)
Post by: MURDERER on December 28, 2002, 12:08:00 PM
Post by: Knuck3ls on December 28, 2002, 12:28:00 PM
Post by: Razored on December 28, 2002, 04:01:00 PM
The Matrix is difficult to setup on a v1.1 box. It took quite a while before I actually got it to work, and the flashing lights were no help at all. With the matrix you are "guessing" about where it is in relation to the d0 point. I feel a lot better just being able to solder on the point and know that I have it right, and it won't come off easily. Also, the alignment holes on the Matrix on my chip were a little off and that was major frustrating.
I also have a friend who "had" a Matrix, but his screw pop out (stripped the hole) after a month of use. Needless to say, he just ordered an X2.
The soft IGR of X2 is a lot better than the hard reset that is supported via EvoX.
The X2 is cheaper...
--Raz.
Post by: Knuck3ls on December 28, 2002, 06:25:00 PM
Post by: MURDERER on December 30, 2002, 06:43:00 PM
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Post by: Knuck3ls on December 30, 2002, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: mickey123 on December 30, 2002, 08:28:00 PM
Post by: knowledgeiv on December 30, 2002, 10:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (Knuck3ls @ Dec 31 2002, 03:24 AM) |
| Who told you that you didn't have to solder to flash the TSOP with Matrix... Ignorance at it's best? =X |
I did; do your research before making any more responses please. And yes, this is ignorance at it's best.
Oh yea, read this...
http://www.geocities...dgeiv/flash.htm
Post by: MURDERER on December 31, 2002, 07:42:00 AM
Post by: equilibrium on December 31, 2002, 07:59:00 AM
Post by: Knuck3ls on December 31, 2002, 08:35:00 AM
Post by: Knuck3ls on December 31, 2002, 12:15:00 PM
Post by: knowledgeiv on December 31, 2002, 12:55:00 PM
The method originally given to flash the TSOP with the matrix is much more difficult than it has to be. Also, if you use my method you don't have to worry about aligning the Matrix w/o the alignment LED and you only have to align it once instead of twice.
Using my method, you have very simple solder points or you can use some conductive grease to connect jumpers (or you could even tape a small piece of wire down to connect the jumpers). I then taped a wire to T1, but you could also solder this. Remember once you do this, the ground wire to T1 can be removed, since you don't need it anymore to re-flash the TSOP, but you would need the 2 jumpers connected. And you may want to solder these points if you want to re-flash the TSOP, but if not, the grease just wipes away.
Post by: MURDERER on December 31, 2002, 07:38:00 PM
Good Job! We all thank you!iMURDERER
Post by: Knuck3ls on December 31, 2002, 07:43:00 PM
Post by: BenJeremy on January 01, 2003, 08:57:00 AM
As for being a no-solder TSOP flash, the pictures in the tutorial clearly show soldered connections being made, particularly to the pins on the TSOP. I guess conductive grease could be used, but that could be pretty messy and a bit hairy, in actual practice. VIAs are hard enough to hit with solder, let alone taped to the board.
Personaly, I'm not too keen on flashing the TSOP, anyway.
I'm of a mind for an X2 because of the larger BIOS capability, and the Lite in particular because of the 2x512k multi-BIOS.
Post by: Knuck3ls on January 01, 2003, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: MURDERER on January 01, 2003, 10:23:00 AM
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Post by: knowledgeiv on January 01, 2003, 12:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Jan 1 2003, 03:57 PM) |
| As for being a no-solder TSOP flash, the pictures in the tutorial clearly show soldered connections being made, particularly to the pins on the TSOP. I guess conductive grease could be used, but that could be pretty messy and a bit hairy, in actual practice. VIAs are hard enough to hit with solder, let alone taped to the board. |
Those pictures are just to reference the points to make contact. When you use the grease all you need to connect are the write-enable jumpers for the TSOP on the bottom and top of the mobo (very simple connection). That's the beauty of this method; you don't have to mess with the pins on the TSOP. And then whether you solder or not, the choice is up to you.
Post by: BenJeremy on January 01, 2003, 07:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (MURDERER @ Jan 1 2003, 01:23 PM) |
| The X2 cannot be made to flash the TSOP. The big difference is that d0 is hardware/software controlled on the Matrix. D0 on the X2 is not controlled by any hardware, therefore it would be quite difficult to control d0 properly in order to enable a flash on the XBOX TSOP chip. D0 on the X2 is hardwired to ground. iMURDERER |
Huh?
The D0 is connected via an external wire, won't a switch handle the necessary chore? IT should be easy enough to break the D0 connection to the X2.
Post by: ZildjianKX on January 01, 2003, 08:11:00 PM
Post by: Knuck3ls on January 01, 2003, 08:12:00 PM
Post by: MURDERER on January 01, 2003, 08:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Jan 2 2003, 02:25 AM) |
| Huh? The D0 is connected via an external wire, won't a switch handle the necessary chore? IT should be easy enough to break the D0 connection to the X2. |
Yea, a switch that is software controlled could handle the chore. Too bad d0 on the X2 isn't microprocessor controlled like the Matrix.
iMURDERER
Post by: obiwan on January 02, 2003, 02:41:00 AM
The reason no other LPC mod can flash the TSOP is because they are not
hardware controlled
Matrix Has a PIC that proccesses the reset signals realtime and can
control the D0 point.
This is how it flips in time to use the Flashing TSOP trick.
It cannot be done with an external switch becuase its up to perfect timing.
Bottom line, Yu cannot flash the TSOP with an LPC mod other than the MatriX
Post by: senator on January 02, 2003, 02:58:00 AM
Post by: knowledgeiv on January 02, 2003, 06:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (senator @ Jan 2 2003, 09:58 AM) |
| Matrix is good, But very soon it will be time to solder the bitch in as we know pogo pins are garbage....Been good since install, but had the dreaded flashin light syndrome. Dropped the box from 2 inches height then started working....I do not want to fix it this way too many more times...So it will be a header pin/ plug set up shortly.... |
Use a bigger screw and you won't ever have to worry about that bitch moving.
Post by: .HasH. on January 02, 2003, 09:55:00 AM
but if not, what the heck, sum of the stuff u guys write is very entertaining!
Post by: MURDERER on January 02, 2003, 12:47:00 PM
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Post by: MURDERER on January 03, 2003, 04:50:00 PM
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Post by: TheKraken on January 04, 2003, 12:57:00 AM
Post by: MURDERER on January 04, 2003, 11:20:00 AM
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[edit - lol thanks knuckles]
Post by: Knuck3ls on January 04, 2003, 11:34:00 AM
I think you mean Easybuy2000
Post by: cyphex on January 04, 2003, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: MURDERER on January 05, 2003, 08:36:00 PM
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Post by: MURDERER on January 06, 2003, 02:52:00 PM
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Post by: MURDERER on January 07, 2003, 11:33:00 AM
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Post by: biosboy on January 07, 2003, 11:40:00 AM
| QUOTE (MURDERER @ Jan 7 2003, 06:33 PM) |
| There aren't many issues with Matrix coming out of alignment. Most people in the forums are satisfied with the pogo pins as an alternative to soldering. iMURDERER |
they are many issues indeed
however zero issues when soldered
do the math you ass kissing whore lol
Post by: biosboy on January 07, 2003, 01:04:00 PM
| QUOTE (hitman8728 @ Jan 7 2003, 07:29 PM) |
| i had an x2 lite and i hated it i had some guy put it in for me and boy did it suck it did not work half the time and i got banned of live with it when it was disabled so i really dont liek the x2 lite . the matrix is much better. and i can get on live with my other xbox fine with it. |
banned when disabled ?
the only time it doiesnt work half the time is if its not fitted correctly
why spread bullshit and lies ?
Post by: MURDERER on January 07, 2003, 01:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (biosboy @ Jan 7 2003, 06:40 PM) | ||
they are many issues indeed however zero issues when soldered do the math you ass kissing whore lol |
Are you retarded? Zero issues when soldering Biosboy? Have you even seen how many people have been messing up their XBOXs trying to fit the X2 lite? Yea, a broken xbox and thats not an issue? At least you wont trash your XBOX with a Matrix. Why call the guy who got banned from XBOX Live using an X2 a liar? Its a damn shame you don't realize anybody using a LPC mod chip could be banned from XBOX Live, d0 grounded or not.
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Post by: Knuck3ls on January 07, 2003, 01:20:00 PM
Post by: biosboy on January 07, 2003, 05:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (MURDERER @ Jan 7 2003, 08:17 PM) | ||||
Are you retarded? Zero issues when soldering Biosboy? Have you even seen how many people have been messing up their XBOXs trying to fit the X2 lite? Yea, a broken xbox and thats not an issue? At least you wont trash your XBOX with a Matrix. Why call the guy who got banned from XBOX Live using an X2 a liar? Its a damn shame you don't realize anybody using a LPC mod chip could be banned from XBOX Live, d0 grounded or not. iMURDERER |
bad soldering is not the fault of the mod
pogos not being permanent IS the fault of the mod
and I love your d0 comments - at last you show us all you really dont know what you're talking about
there is no i/o data whatsoever from the lpc when d0 is grounded - but of course you'd know this if you actually tested this data yourself with a scope as opposed to copy/pasting your information
Post by: biosboy on January 07, 2003, 05:20:00 PM
iMURDERER and his d0 theories
Post by: biosboy on January 07, 2003, 06:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (hitman8728 @ Jan 8 2003, 01:10 AM) |
| [/QUOTE]bad soldering is not the fault of the mod pogos not being permanent IS the fault of the mod and I love your d0 comments - at last you show us all you really dont know what you're talking about there is no i/o data whatsoever from the lpc when d0 is grounded - but of course you'd know this if you actually tested this data yourself with a scope as opposed to copy/pasting your information bios boy wtf is your prob man why do u have to get on every one case |
im correcting everything this iMURDERER says cus he is full of shit
also dude - did you make sure your HD was locked perm before using xbox live ? XBL works 100% disabled with XBL but of course you need to have your HD locked
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Love my Xodus/Matrix not problems at all ..is the best chip i ever had...
Post by: MURDERER on January 07, 2003, 10:17:00 PM
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Post by: FlyinHawaiian on January 08, 2003, 04:57:00 AM
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Post by: MURDERER on January 26, 2003, 07:26:00 AM
, I had to flash the Matrix at my Moms house. I got home, took apart the XBOX, moved the DVD Tray and HDD out of the way. I examined the XBOX d0 point before I installed it, rubbed off a little plastic with my thumb. I left the XBOX on when aligning the chip, so I could see when it flashed green. I installed the chip in under 5 minutes. I expected to have some issues like having alignment problems or broken screw... It was an absolutely easy and flawless install. I even shook the XBOX, hard, and it didn't come out of alignment. Matrix gets two thumbs up!iMURDERER
Post by: BMW on January 26, 2003, 08:28:00 AM
Post by: renegadeduckie on January 26, 2003, 04:34:00 PM
But what people say is true: it is a temporary solution. For some people, including one of my friends, it doesn't stay aligned forever.
I've vowed that if mine ever comes lose, i'm just going to buy a solder chip, because the soldering doesn't look that difficult to do (besides D0.. but we'll deal with that when we get to it).
Post by: nautiazn85 on January 26, 2003, 07:45:00 PM
Post by: blindguy on January 27, 2003, 06:41:00 AM
The pogo pins would work much better if there was another screw location nearby the LPC pads to help keep the pins aligned and provide even preasure to the mod board.
Personaly, I'll stick to the X-ecuter2's solder solution.
Post by: ExOrCizT on January 27, 2003, 12:50:00 PM
ppl that voted for matrix just like pongo pin no solder installiation.. thats the only reason they Could of voted for it... unless its just what they use
Post by: jesterrace777 on February 01, 2003, 09:03:00 AM