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Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Boxman on December 05, 2002, 04:32:00 PM
The main advantage of the Matrix is it's "solder free!!!"

But, you could do it. You'd need a forced air station (ideally) to heat up the surface mount female header, though you might be able to do it with some skills and solderwick/solder pump....

then, just solder from the surface mount pads to the corresponding holes on the XBox motherboard.

Just out of curiosity, why do you want to do this...? This is a lot of effort, and depending on how much you value your time it might just be worth it for you to get a more "solder friendly" mod!

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Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Rek on December 05, 2002, 04:38:00 PM
that seems too difficult.
The easiest way to solder it to the board would be to solder wires to the TOP of the pogo pin then to the correct pad on the xbox board. Why the top ? so you can keep the pogo pins clean in case you want to use them later or sell it.

Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Seye on December 05, 2002, 04:47:00 PM
because when i move my box too much, the damn matrix becomes un aligned... so i have resorted to leaving the xbox case off, so i can realign it once in awhile if need be.
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: mickey123 on December 05, 2002, 04:50:00 PM
If you want to solder the matrix, you should definitely use wires.  Connect the wires to the matrix first then too the motherboard.
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Boxman on December 05, 2002, 07:09:00 PM
Rek--

Though I've never handled a Matrix, judging from the pictures the pin acceptor is a surface mount component... meaning the pins don't go through to the other side! Do they also have pads on the bottom? As I've said, never held one, so I'm just going by the pics.

If they do have pads on the bottom, then definitely solder to those pads and don't go through the hassle of the dismount.

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Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Xevious on December 05, 2002, 11:56:00 PM
Here's the IDEAL method:

1) Remove Matrix
2) Sell Matrix to weak-minded friend or younger sibling. If this fails, simply discard Matrix
3) Buy X-ecuter 2 and install using header pins.

Simple, clean, reliable.

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Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: mickey123 on December 06, 2002, 12:27:00 AM
You might be able to solder the pin header onto the matrix?
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Troll123 on December 06, 2002, 05:20:00 AM
Why not just solder one of the pins? That should be enough to hold it in place.
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: vokal4 on December 06, 2002, 05:33:00 AM
if ur usin a v1 console, just apply a small amount of pressure on the matrix and heat the pads from the bottom so the pogos sink in and get surrounded by the flux
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Nailed on December 06, 2002, 06:35:00 AM
This posting is just getting too wierd.  I realize some of you might be having alignment problems (I could shake my box to death and I'd never have one but I guess they can happen) but if you're going to solder, why the Matrix?  You're going to want to unsolder and resolder a new chip when the latest and greatest comes out anyway; why waste the time with a chip not meant to be soldered?
(to be cynical: just trying to get an insite into the minds of people who may think they're 3l33t cause they can solder 9 wires)
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: GTac01 on December 06, 2002, 06:39:00 AM
DUDE!!!, USE A HOT GLUE GUN!!!!, OR LOTS OF TAPE DUH!!
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: drew1969 on December 06, 2002, 10:16:00 AM
One of the main reasons I soldered - after sheer frustration - was that I was doing one for a friends son for christmas - and I could picture the telephone call at 7.30am christmas day - the xbox isnt coming on...........just unscrew it and wiggle that chip around till it goes green it will only take a few days then try and screw it down without actually moving it all - soldering was easier.
Anyway the reason I replied to this was
Whats "l33t" mean?
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Nailed on December 06, 2002, 10:35:00 AM
l33t is older h4x0r (hacker) lingo for elite.

And why couldn't someone solder?  For myself two reasons: first, I simply don't have the nerves.  Second, I like having the latest and greatest.  I don't want wait (which requires additional time & money) for someone to solder the Matrix in place, only to later pay them to unsolder it, and solder an Xecuter2 in place.

More power to you if you can solder... just curious why you picked the Matrix chip since OpenBioxx is much better (although I guess.. difficult to come by now)
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Nailed on December 06, 2002, 10:38:00 AM
One last thing... on the whole, pogo pins may not be reliable... but I could shake my XBox until the harddrive broke and I'm confident my Matrix wouldn't become unlodged.  Seems to me any amatuer could go out and buy a bigger screw, save the 15 or so minutes it took to solder.
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: Antdog24 on December 06, 2002, 10:42:00 AM
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Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: M@verick on December 06, 2002, 11:15:00 AM
Soldering aside, the Matrix is the only real choice when it comes to LPC mods right now.  OpenXbox is too hard to find and X-ecutor2 isn't out yet.  Having done one matrix, I never want to do it again...I'll probably order the x-ecuter2 pro a few months after it comes out (when its available for the masses).
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: drew1969 on December 06, 2002, 12:33:00 PM
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Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: feflicker on December 08, 2002, 11:18:00 PM
QUOTE
Soldering aside, the Matrix is the only real choice when it comes to LPC mods right now. OpenXbox is too hard to find and X-ecutor2 isn't out yet. Having done one matrix, I never want to do it again...I'll probably order the x-ecuter2 pro a few months after it comes out (when its available for the masses).


I don't know about this... I chose the original x-ecuter over the Matrix. Pogo Pins? Screw it down? Come on... An easier install is not the goal for me. I want it to work over the long haul, so I installed my x-ecuter with the pin-header. I am ready for the x-ecuter2 pro, already!
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: blackout_19 on December 09, 2002, 08:19:00 AM
A pin header on the lpc is the way to go. I bought a v1.1 box and it took about 10 mins to solder in the pin header. The holes are already there for the pin header to pass through, just a bit of flux and your good to go. Also means that i'm ready for the x2.

By the way Gtac01, if you want to put sticky tape all over the tracks of your board then go for it. personally I wouldn't advise it....
Title: Soldering Matrix To Xbox
Post by: mafkikker on May 10, 2003, 11:05:00 PM
Does anybody have pictures of succesfully soldering a matrix to a xbox version 1.1 ?