Post by: frekkle on October 22, 2002, 10:52:00 AM
I know someone that would love to do this !
Great Idea Btw
Post by: ravencry on October 22, 2002, 11:23:00 AM
What would you call that? doggie style?
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 12:06:00 PM
we're not saying xodus/matrix sucks - its a nice peice of hardware albeit a little overpriced, its just that they havent actually done anything in regard to cracking anything - thats just the point we'd like to make
heres to X2 : the REAL next gen mod
first mod to work on new console AND old version console at the same time
first mod to provide lpt programming / cd programming / 4 x different kernel switching ALL while the mod is installed and without ever needing to open it up again
fully compatible with xbox live - including the new problems discovered
wanna solder or not solder - you choose - we dont care
all at $45 - wow - sucks huh ?
[edited due to accusation of lack of compassion
]heheh on a serious note - same fix can of course be applied when fitting xecuter2 - just in case you were wondering
thanks for listening
Post by: frekkle on October 22, 2002, 01:02:00 PM
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (frekkle @ Oct 22 2002, 07:02 PM) |
| kind of ironic but xecuter2 is ripping off matrix pogos? |
thats like saying we're ripping off XYZ installer cus we use torx drivers to open up the console - pogo pins are a standard component whos cost far outweighs the requirement.
the pogos are by demand - in our eyes they suck and are the lamest shit we've ever had to deal with - we've always thought soldering was part of the fun and the accomplishment - its not like its hard is it ?
pogos are optional - in fact we hope we dont have to make any of the adapters at all
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (falz @ Oct 22 2002, 06:57 PM) | ||
A week or two and there will be pre-release pix, or an actual release of something? A friend is looking to get an xbox, but I'm not happy with current mods since there's no more bioxx. The specs of the new x-ecutors seem quite nice, however. |
we'll hook you up with some pics when it looks nice
right now its a butchered mess hehe
Post by: M3_DeL on October 22, 2002, 01:23:00 PM
Edit: Do you really want me to flood this board every day with how great my Xecutor really is? I didn't think so
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (formosauk @ Oct 22 2002, 07:22 PM) |
| i dont own any of these mods yet . but! although i dont want to and wont order an xodus because i dont trust that company eb2000. i do think the makers of the xecuter are totally jealous of the makers of the xodus because they failed to see that you can make the chip without soldering it onto the board , i dont care if the chip is there design the point is there pissed off because they have lost out a lot really. i know for a fact now people are going to say to me that i dont know what im talking about and that xecuter are so great .maybe they are but i didnt see anyone at all in these past few months says how great they are only when someone brings a new chip out then people stick up for them . personally i dont give a crap who brings it out as long as i can get it delivered when they say they will then i dont care. and i bet if the xecuter came up with the idea of a no solder chip in the first place they would have charge 59 and not 45 are we really suppose to believe they will only sell it for 45 or whatever the price is just because they feel sorry for us by charging 59. they are selling it for 45 because there is more competition fuck it anyway i dont want to yap on any more |
well of course it was known - many talked about it within the scene but thought too lame and too expensive no one would buy into it
we didnt envisage there being THAT many techies who couldnt solder (don't take that to heart)
I think it boils down to the fact that the ones that cant solder or who cant make their own from numbnutts designs are just in it for the piracy aspect and not the accomplishment / homebrew development etc.
you say we're jealous ?
dude we do this for free - our work is for fun - its the china guys that make the money and shit we dont care
if we were jealous trust me we would be releasing v2 kernel and make it NOT work on xodus - that would be so easy to do, but we're not like that.
thanks for replying
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:33:00 PM
| QUOTE (RedSlug @ Oct 22 2002, 07:25 PM) |
| Well lets hope the Xecutor2 is a little more flashable than the Xecutor1. New buyers deserve that. |
the specs speak for themselves
Post by: RedSlug on October 22, 2002, 01:40:00 PM
Basically it's the Xbox live problem that worries me.
Don't get me wrong though, I do love my X-ecutor1!
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (M3_DeL @ Oct 22 2002, 07:23 PM) |
| Hey sweet it is the xecutor team... Ok quick question for you guys as I have the orig Xecutor mod.....I do love it yes I do, but I am getting worried about the whole live thing and I read that someone has successfully flashed their Executor (the orig) is this possible and if so could you spread some light? Edit: Do you really want me to flood this board every day with how great my Xecutor really is? I didn't think so |
no one has flashed their xecuter
it contains a crc encryption so impossible to flash as it is - we never thought it necessary at the time as it had all the features you need and still does (unless you have the crc tool and wanna desolder / flash manually - if anyone wants that you can request by email no problem)
if you cant remove the mod yousrelf (and to be fair if your'e using a matrix its highly likley that you're not too good at soldering or donet want to solder) simpley cut the power wires and install an updateable version and use a kernel that allows boot to an alternative dashboard
i'd just like to make this point to others who make silly commenst like im screwed cus i brought this mod 3 months ago and now there are better ones out boo fucking hoo (sorry for the crudeness - but thats how we fell on those commnets)
thats life people - a better dvd player always comes out, so does a better car or a tv or computer - thats life. we dont see people moaning when a faster hard drive appears when they just paid their hard earned money on a sweet 7200rpm baby. If they want that 10k sweetness they just go out and buy it - i dont read any bitching or whining there - but jees when its mods - you really should see some of the mails we get when we announce improvements over an older version - like... fuck you xecuter why didn you tell us aboiut these new features 2 months ago. same reply as always send us a fucking crystal ball and we'll make sure you're updated next time.
but lets look at mods - most of you are in it for the piracy - so your mod cost 1 game and you probably have 150 - so dont complain about having to get another when a new model appears. and yes a better one will be out in 5 months time and a better one after that. If your attitude is to always wait for the next version you will NEVER own a mod. SO just get one - use it - if it does everything you need fine. If you discover you need more - get another. If you cant afford to pay $30 - $40 for the latest mod then you have no business owning a console where the games cost $50. - our 2 cents
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (RedSlug @ Oct 22 2002, 07:40 PM) |
| aGeMo just posted what I was going to in a much clearer way Basically it's the Xbox live problem that worries me. Don't get me wrong though, I do love my X-ecutor1! |
yes this issue is of note and of course only affects those who use evox dash - but thankfully theres a fix - we have implemented a check for evoxdash.xbe also in the new v2 kernel
thanks for your support !
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (aGeMo @ Oct 22 2002, 07:35 PM) |
| xecuter2 I think it's great about what you guys are doing. I myself own an Xecutor1 but am considering buying an xodus just for the ability of flashing another bios. Sure don't want to shell out the extra cash or the extra time of installing the xodus over my xecutor or removing my existing xecutor but I have the need for the ybox bios. It's a pain having to switch my dash back and forth from evox to the ms dash everytime I want to use xbox live. Now what would really make me happy is if you did release this flash addon for xecuter1 which the xecuter team said they were working on. Was this just scraped for the next xecuter version leaving us existing xecuter customers out in the cold? Just need to know if this fabled device will ever be offered or should I just buy another modchip. |
tell you what - we'll take a look at the add on again this week to see if its worth it ok
if its cheap / easy to do then sure - we'll even release it for free
but you are correct the new project took over - sorry
i'd just like to add you werent left in the cold - v1 had all the features - no one could forsee this particular issue - in fact its so new it wasnt even implemeneted within our new v2 kernel until today
we cant please everyone but we try
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (tscotsman @ Oct 22 2002, 07:46 PM) |
| I agree you guys are great at what you do, but people like myself are just scared they f*** the Xbox and end up with nothing, the no-solder solution is the best idea for most. I need a no-solder solution and want to go with you guys, Ive been in contact with Bald Bouncer and he certainly sings your praises but, Matrix is there right now. Can you give everyone and idea when these new chips will be available so that we dont have to deal with such a shit company as Easybuy. BTW Keep up the good work, dont let the others wind you up, it seems like some want to start some kind of conflict between Executer/Matrix People |
yes point taken - i suppose when you look at your own abilities (e.g soldering) you just automatically expect everyone to have the same skills - or even some skills
trust me though if youve ever soldered - xbox is the easiest EVER console to solder a mod too - you really must try it - you'll feel a great accomplishement
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:50:00 PM
| QUOTE (RedSlug @ Oct 22 2002, 07:49 PM) |
| "it contains a crc encryption so impossible to flash (unless you have the crc tool and wanna desolder / flash manually - if anyone wants that you can request by email no problem)" So passing the design for a flashing tool to your chinese friends was, um, a little white lie? Don't take what we say to heart. We DO appreciate what you do honest -- "boo fucking hoo" |
no we did they just never did anything with it
thanks for paying attention also
Post by: Drakull on October 22, 2002, 01:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (xecuter2 @ Oct 22 2002, 07:27 PM) |
| we didnt envisage there being THAT many techies who couldnt solder I think it boils down to the fact that the ones that cant solder or who cant make their own from numbnutts designs are just in it for the iracy aspect and not the accomplishment / homebrew development etc. |
Well.. the point is not only that as long as we're used to get almost everything already done, there are more and more people like me that are having no experience at all on soldering. Another point is that a lot of people that is having no idea on soldering (but are really good ones using a screwdriver) prefer paying a bit more for having the pogos than paying more than that amount to a guy for installing the modchips.
Another reason for wanting the non-soldering pogos is people who's selling pre-modded consoles: the ones selling them with a chip probably find faster just un-screwing and screwing the xodus than having to solder each one they chip... also the people who just flashes the tsop on those consoles... that skip the unsoldering part when flashing the console... just solder the flash enable points in the mother board, install xodus, flash bios & remove xodus...
On the other way, i agree that the only worthy thing the guys on the xodus project have done by themselves is choosing using the pogo's and the screw for attaching the chip without soldering, but that's a really good idea for people with no soldering knowledge.
The fact is that the chips are always becoming better ones as long as the time is going on and people is having time for improving them, but it's not fair saying that a certain modchip sucks or not just because a new one has something we like more than a previous one we bought. I've an enighmaX and i'm thinking on buying a new one so i can upgrade the HD and use a debug bios (that discards xodus 'cos is only having a 256 chip, and the debug bios is 512... not too clever when the 512 bioses were already released some time ago before knowing about xodus... but problably cheaper for the xodus makers...). There are a lot of better than enighmax or extender modchips, but that doesn't mean that they're bad designs or works. It was what i was thinking it was the best when i bought it and it has fit all my needs by the moment...... so why complaining now if two or three months later it appears a new design?? i could also wait those two or three months without modchip, but it was not worthy for me.
Please, people executer is the first modchip that allows using a different HD, and we've to thank executer team for that, that doesn't mean that their chip is the best in this moment (the lack of upgradeability has made other chips more "recomendable" at this moment), but it's a great job and there's no reason for blaming them at all.
Regards all
Drakull
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (RedSlug @ Oct 22 2002, 07:51 PM) |
| "tell you what - we'll take a look at the add on again this week to see if its worth it ok" Thats really cool of you, thanks |
np whatsoever
hey i dont wanna cause a shit storm i heard 30 seconds ago easybuy just got nailed - can anyone confirm pls ?
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (Drakull @ Oct 22 2002, 07:52 PM) | ||
Well.. the point is not only that as long as we're used to get almost everything already done, there are more and more people like me that are having no experience at all on soldering. Another point is that a lot of people that is having no idea on soldering (but are really good ones using a screwdriver) prefer paying a bit more for having the pogos than paying more than that amount to a guy for installing the modchips. Another reason for wanting the non-soldering pogos is people who's selling pre-modded consoles: the ones selling them with a chip probably find faster just un-screwing and screwing the xodus than having to solder each one they chip... also the people who just flashes the tsop on those consoles... that skip the unsoldering part when flashing the console... just solder the flash enable points in the mother board, install xodus, flash bios & remove xodus... On the other way, i agree that the only worthy thing the guys on the xodus project have done by themselves is choosing using the pogo's and the screw for attaching the chip without soldering, but that's a really good idea for people with no soldering knowledge. The fact is that the chips are always becoming better ones as long as the time is going on and people is having time for improving them, but it's not fair saying that a certain modchip sucks or not just because a new one has something we like more than a previous one we bought. I've an enighmaX and i'm thinking on buying a new one so i can upgrade the HD and use a debug bios (that discards xodus 'cos is only having a 256 chip, and the debug bios is 512... not too clever when the 512 bioses were already released some time ago before knowing about xodus... but problably cheaper for the xodus makers...). There are a lot of better than enighmax or extender modchips, but that doesn't mean that they're bad designs or works. It was what i was thinking it was the best when i bought it and it has fit all my needs by the moment...... so why complaining now if two or three months later it appears a new design?? i could also wait those two or three months without modchip, but it was not worthy for me. Please, people executer is the first modchip that allows using a different HD, and we've to thank executer team for that, that doesn't mean that their chip is the best in this moment (the lack of upgradeability has made other chips more "recomendable" at this moment), but it's a great job and there's no reason for blaming them at all. Regards all Drakull |
good post - nice comments thanks
if you like whats out now - you aint see nothing yet
Post by: RedSlug on October 22, 2002, 01:55:00 PM
Not a good time to be in the mochip business...
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 01:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (RedSlug @ Oct 22 2002, 07:55 PM) |
| They are the obvious next target after Lik-Sang. But no I can't confirm it.. Not a good time to be in the mochip business... |
not at all no
thankfully we dont sell mods at all - its for fun only - ppl should be allowed to "improve" products that they legally own - M$ are just throwing their bullying weight around a little too much right now
i dont think they realise what a bad taste this is leaving people - even Sony know how to deal with the mod makers - pull the big guns and leave the little guys to it - they KNOW that mods sell consoles for them - not everyone who has a mod uses 100% copies - i buy originals all the time, and just think of all the xb live subscriptions they'll be taking even if copies are used on the system
calm down MS you are gonna bite the bullet on this if you push any harder - I thought you guys wnated to beat Sony - this is NOT how to go about it
Post by: M3_DeL on October 22, 2002, 02:10:00 PM
If i switch it would be to the new xecutor but I really do not wanna try to de-solder the orig Xecutor as it might end up ruining my Xbox all together. Not the best solderer here but was able to solder the Xeccutor no prob. was my first time with an iron also.
Post by: M3_DeL on October 22, 2002, 02:19:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| But only the X-Ecuter V1 is available and for a horrible pricing.65 Euros that's about 64 $ I think.For only one mod. |
Don't worry, you'll make your money back in a day
Post by: M3_DeL on October 22, 2002, 02:37:00 PM
Post by: M3_DeL on October 22, 2002, 02:50:00 PM
Post by: falz on October 22, 2002, 03:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (aGeMo @ Oct 22 2002, 02:08 PM) |
| Well with every xbox that MS sells they loose a great deal of money... it's the games that bring in the cash for them. In their eyes, take out the modchip sellers and the only way to play games on the xbox will be to buy them. |
I hope MS is reading this.
I bought my xbox primarily to play mp3s and mame/console emus. Since then, I've been impressed with a few of the games on the xbox and have purchased them. Since then I've purchased the DVD playback kit, two controllers, and a few games.
I don't know what their formula is for making cash (7 games?), but certainly I'll purchase more games in the future, and they will see that money.
Had it not been for the homebrew apps, MS had a zero percent chance of me buying an xbox. Thanks to mods and a leaked XDK, I bought one, and eventually they will make money. Not only that, I'm convincing several freinds of mine to do exactly the same.
I don't know if this is typical, as many of you idiots probably just pirate EVERYTHING, including games you really enjoy. Note to you: Don't do this. If you want to see good games in the future, SUPPORT THEM. GO GET A JOB.
Post by: bo1e on October 22, 2002, 03:33:00 PM
Post by: formosauk on October 22, 2002, 03:55:00 PM
anyway im getting one no matter what because i dont trust easybuy and i am getting the solder version
thing is there were other chips out before the xecuter so they could probably say you stole there idea.
Post by: formosauk on October 22, 2002, 04:23:00 PM
Post by: Satan00 on October 22, 2002, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: forcelite on October 22, 2002, 05:19:00 PM
1)To all the people who say the gay comment "I bought my xbox so I can do whatever I want to it"
Well yes you do own your xbox and you could use it as a pillow for all I care, but its when you have something you dont own (like backups) that you are now stealing, you are not kidding anyone when you say you are using it for backups only.
2)Having mods like the matrix KILLS the console market cause now 12 year old kids can install one. Before you had to at least go through some trouble of finding a modder.
3)for the Xecutor team to get mad at the makres of the matrix is being very nieve. They know they are in a shady business and if they think that people are going to be all honest then they best stick to selling bibles. The matrix team inproved on a already existing deign, its what us Americans call being an Entrepreneur. It doesnt take a genius to know that the easier the install and the more features you add, the better the chip will sell.
Lastly I do appreciate the Xectors software, although we all know that software is easy to copy, heh
I think the xecutor team is still a little pissed by how well the matrix is doing and they cant stand it
Post by: turbo on October 22, 2002, 06:46:00 PM
When do you think the chip will be released for the public to buy? Not just some pictures.
thanks
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 06:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (formosauk @ Oct 22 2002, 10:23 PM) |
| stop talking shit and get back to work , im waiting for my new chip here |
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 07:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (Ace25 @ Oct 22 2002, 11:01 PM) |
| Man, 3 pages of crap from the Xecuter team and your all bowing to them like their gods, even when they insult you to your face.... whatever. "after typing this im STILL amazed that any of you think this is some cool fix - just cut the power - would any of you have not thought of that ?" Well, if the Xecuter was not so terribly designed to make someone have to think of this method to install the matrix we wouldn't be having this conversation would we? "we didnt envisage there being THAT many techies who couldnt solder" "i'd just like to make this point to others who make silly commenst like im screwed cus i brought this mod 3 months ago and now there are better ones out boo fucking hoo (sorry for the crudeness - but thats how we fell on those commnets)" Ok, your sorry for those comments but not calling everyone that had issues installing Xecuter to the motherboard an idiot is not something to be sorry for? Hmmmmmm... Well, sorry again, but most of us have installed mods in other consoles and have NO problems at all. If you think the XBox is the easiest console to mod, pass some of that stuff my way, I need a hit. I still think, after doing oabout a dozen XBoxes, that PSX was by far the easiest console to mod. Notice something about the majority of modchips? I have, they all use WIRES... wow, I know hard concept to grasp I guess. But using wires with Xecuter works sooooo much better. Why not just redesign the PCB like L.S. did to openbox when it was here. Bottom line, Xecuter team sucks for personality and compasion. They are always bashing the end users trying to put in the mod. I give them all the credit in the world for the software. No argument there. The PCB design (fuse a chip to a motherboad like that, and NOT be flashable, CRAZY!) is just terrible. The team (ones that come here to speak) are just as bad as the PCB design. Why are you guys so worried that Matrix copied you? Isn't that obvious to all? Plus the fact is has no bios should be a HUGE clue that they in no way know anything about coding the xbox. Come on, this is EB2K we are talking about here... never known for their great business practices. Still, I wish the Xecuter team would just forget about the matrix and stop yelling at anyone who bought on. |
point taken
for the sake of argument we did redesign the pcb - its called xecuter2
im sorry you didnt like the original - many thousands did - but you cant please everyone.
Most dont care if its fused - its staying there as no need to update or pull it out as it ws the first complete kernel and nothing has improved on it
yes there are now issues with evox and xbox live - but thast an issue with evox not xecuter
sure we can get around it with a kernel hack and thats life
but i see where you are coming from and appreciate your input
i'd juts like to argue that i do have personality but can confirm I have no compassion whatsoever
thank you
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 07:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (forcelite @ Oct 22 2002, 11:19 PM) |
Lastly I do appreciate the Xectors software, although we all know that software is easy to copy, heh I think the xecutor team is still a little pissed by how well the matrix is doing and they cant stand it |
software always released for free so sure it can be copied
- thats the point no profit from any of that at all fuck it i dont care - buy a matrix
Post by: xecuter2 on October 22, 2002, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: tweety on October 23, 2002, 10:18:00 AM
LOL VERY clever idea
Post by: forcelite on October 23, 2002, 12:55:00 PM
Post by: telo{+} on October 23, 2002, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: flubba86 on October 24, 2002, 05:25:00 AM
Looking forward to it...
Post by: cONEction on October 24, 2002, 06:09:00 AM
| QUOTE |
you say we're jealous ? dude we do this for free - our work is for fun - its the china guys that make the money and shit we dont care if we were jealous trust me we would be releasing v2 kernel and make it NOT work on xodus - that would be so easy to do, but we're not like that. thanks for replying |
wtf? you say your doing this for free? are you nuts?
i really cant believe this, i thought Xecuter team was as rich as bill gates after the x2 release
but really, you guys deserve a lot of money, just mail bill and make him a offer.
No hacking for next xbox release for 1 million bux
Post by: xecuter2 on October 24, 2002, 08:05:00 AM
ok yeah we're fucking lame like you say
so get this - if you happen to come across a v2 xbox that you have to mod for your freind or yourself or whatever
you still gonna call us fags when you have to use the free kernel we give you ?
telo - xodus havent said shit cus they havent done shit
wqe dont have to be professional as we aint selling to your ass - this is all fun baby
and to the other guy who asked if it would be cheaper - read buddy we already said it'd be around $45 for the pro kit - even less for the non pogo pin version
peace
Post by: Ace25 on October 24, 2002, 12:17:00 PM
Nuff said?? Hope so.
Post by: M3_DeL on October 24, 2002, 12:27:00 PM
Hehe Neways tell me your still looking into that programer for the xecutor1.....
Post by: steinola on October 25, 2002, 06:53:00 PM
It looks like Xecutor2 (the member, not the mod) is out of here... so it probably doesn't make a lick of difference... but did no one else catch the huge contridiction is his statements? Probably because he vailed it by insulting everyone.
1) He says the Xecutor has all the functionality we need ("still does"), so there was no need to design it to be flashable (or even removable).
2) Yet, later, he stated that there's always newer, better mods coming out... that "5 months from now there'll be a better one", etc. (I think he exact words were "boo hoo").
Wouldn't knowing #2 as fact dictate that #1 was a hugely BAD idea?!?
Now with MS stating that they're going to do everything they can to defeat the mods, it would seem that mods will be in a continual state of flux... MS shifts things to check for mods, and the mods will need to evolve to defeat the checks... it'll be a forever moving target.
Anybody that thinks that a flashable, modifiable, and ultimately removable modchip isn't absolutely essential down the road hasn't been paying attention.
From where I stand, the Xecuter team wasn't paying attention with version 1. With version 2, it looks like they woke up. Though they seem a bit peeved that MatriX was paying attention all along.