Post by: Xboxohaye on September 22, 2002, 05:24:00 PM
ps. Cool tune in the background of the alignment vid!
See you later
Post by: Xboxohaye on September 22, 2002, 05:37:00 PM
By the looks of things that green light tells you when the chip is docked successfully? It looks like the boys at Xodus H.Q have put a lot of thought into this chip, now, all we need to know now is what them switches do....
Post by: berzerko on September 22, 2002, 05:46:00 PM
Post by: Xboxohaye on September 22, 2002, 05:48:00 PM
For the second switch i think its gotta be to 'lock' the bios if u will, to ensure that new security features from the boys at M$ don't put bios replacements on new games or something? I dunno, there's a million things it could be.
Apart from that tho, the chip looks to be sweet already (barring any bugs, touch wood). We just need EvoX to knock us up a new bios which will get all them features we crave!
Post by: atomon on September 22, 2002, 06:40:00 PM
Post by: Xboxohaye on September 22, 2002, 06:43:00 PM
We'll have to wait and c, in a couple of days, someone will no doubt have one up and running so they can tell us.
Post by: atomon on September 22, 2002, 06:45:00 PM
Post by: cerebi86 on September 22, 2002, 06:49:00 PM
Post by: cerebi86 on September 22, 2002, 06:58:00 PM
Post by: atomon on September 22, 2002, 06:59:00 PM
Post by: Xboxohaye on September 22, 2002, 07:01:00 PM
DITTO, LOL
Post by: cerebi86 on September 22, 2002, 07:06:00 PM
Post by: Xboxohaye on September 22, 2002, 07:12:00 PM
Post by: Coolgeek on September 22, 2002, 07:42:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Failing that there's a parallel connector anyway |
Ther is no parallel connector [on the chip]... that is corretc... but the Programmer has one, and the programmer connects to the chip ;-)
Post by: deuces on September 22, 2002, 08:34:00 PM
... be waiting to see how the first batch of installs go but looks to be promising at least!
Post by: ferrell on September 22, 2002, 08:43:00 PM
Post by: Ronnie on September 22, 2002, 09:09:00 PM
And they never said it would hold more than a single bios,right?
Post by: RickH on September 22, 2002, 09:30:00 PM
Post by: ferrell on September 22, 2002, 09:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (RickH @ Sep 23 2002, 03:30 AM) | ||
WARNING... RANT ON! Tell me why I am the only person here thinking how dumb this idea is. Don't you guys realize how unreliable a compression fit on something like this will be??? Do you realize the heat stresses exerted on all the components inside the X-Box will make this thing very, VERY unreliable after just a short time? I don't want to burst your bubble but I can see a couple problems with this. Any item that relies on pressure to hold the 9-10 pins in place is guaranteed to fail. I know they are giving you people what you want but a soldered on Xecuter will be much more reliable in the long run than any compression fit device. This new mod will be lucky if it works for a couple of weeks before becoming intermittent. Heating inside the machine is going to cause intermittent contact on the pads and cause the installation to fail within a short period of time not to mention corrosion. That is not to say that just opening the box and loosening the screw and retightening it will not fix it but come on, aren't we just asking for trouble? How many times do you think you can open a static sensitive device like the X-Box and adjust your mod before you cause a new problem.. I guess it should be looked at this way, if you plan on keeping your box for an extended period of time, go with the Xecuter and don't ever worry about the install. If you just want something that you connect to the X-Box and use for a while until something better comes out, go with the Matrix! Sorry for the Rant but you guys really need to step back and take a look at things before you jump heads first into this. Those on the bleeding edge of this one may bite off more than they can chew! RANT OFF! |
Do you really believe that the heat inside the xbox is going to be a problem? I'm guessing the maximum heat inside the xbox will be 120F - 140F. This is not anywhere near the point where the solder will begin to soften. Even taking into the account of the on-off heat cycles present inside the xbox (60F - 140F at most), is this going to cause enough mechanical stress on the materials (metal, solder, fiberglass) to have them deteriorate into a situation where prolonged physical integrity is not possible? Also keep in mind that in addition to the force bearing down on the board in the Z axis, the board is held securely in place along the X axis and Y the axis by at least five points.
Post by: DaGamePimp on September 23, 2002, 12:58:00 AM
-- I have heard some other things that I will not mention just in case it is not true but if it is - Oh Brother is this THE chip to own
!!! The above post about heat issues is not a very valid point , if the box gets hot enough to effect the solder then there are other issues to be dealt with [ under normal conditions this should never happen ] . I wouldn't use it as a portable Xbox with the screen however . -[DGP]-
Post by: HOF on September 23, 2002, 02:09:00 AM
Post by: ^^^Maximus^^^ on September 23, 2002, 02:42:00 AM
Post by: stiGGy on September 23, 2002, 03:18:00 AM
Post by: Blueboy on September 23, 2002, 04:54:00 AM
But I have a question since I decided to modify my xbox:
Is there a connector on the pcb, for the programmer, right? Why the hell, do not use another connector instead of pads???
I think I'm reinventing warm water, it's so difficult to understand it for these groups (Xodus and Xecuter)? Boh?
Post by: kloenie on September 23, 2002, 05:09:00 AM
i live in the netherlands, where can i buy it best ?
Post by: ravencry on September 23, 2002, 05:21:00 AM
i think they are the only ones selling it
Post by: mvm on September 23, 2002, 05:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (kloenie @ Sep 23 2002, 11:09 AM) |
| where can i buy this chip ? i live in the netherlands, where can i buy it best ? |
Tot nu toe is easybuy de enige reseller. De verschepingskosten naar nederland zijn 29$ Mischien is het een goed idee om een groepsbestelling te doen, dan kunnen we de verzendkosten delen.
Post by: RickH on September 23, 2002, 08:28:00 AM
Post by: RickH on September 23, 2002, 08:32:00 AM
Post by: falz on September 23, 2002, 08:48:00 AM
I couldn't tell by the pictures if it somehow had borders and edges which made it nudge nicely against other chips on the xbox motherboard. It seems to me that it could easily just pivot, and potentially short something out.
Also, since the screw is on one side only, the tighter you get it, the less the contact will be on the opposite side of the board. A good idea, I guess I will just have to hear the success rate to see how they did.
If there were TWO screws (and obviously there cannot be unless the board had some strange wing off the other side) it would be a different story.
Post by: tmac852 on September 23, 2002, 11:44:00 AM
with this mod u can simply install it update the bios remove it and install it in 20other xbox's...
i remember reading that awhile ago...
so why would it matter if it moves or shit?
btw...the ppl that think itll like twist around and shit cuz its only one screw...dont u think they tested that shit?
lol
Post by: opjose on September 23, 2002, 11:52:00 AM
The only thing you will be flashing is the LPC mod itself.
Post by: Ronnie on September 23, 2002, 11:55:00 AM
And you think everything ever made is reliable?When people get their chips they will let everyone know how it goes.
Shit n Shit
Post by: opjose on September 23, 2002, 11:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (RickH @ Sep 23 2002, 03:30 AM) |
| Tell me why I am the only person here thinking how dumb this idea is. Don't you guys realize how unreliable a compression fit on something like this will be??? Do you realize the heat stresses exerted on all the components inside the X-Box will make this thing very, VERY unreliable after just a short time? I don't want to burst your bubble but I can see a couple problems with this. Any item that relies on pressure to hold the 9-10 pins in place is guaranteed to fail. I know they are giving you people what you want but a soldered on Xecuter will be much more reliable in the long run than any compression fit device. This new mod will be lucky if it works for a couple of weeks before becoming intermittent. Heating inside the machine is going to cause intermittent contact on the pads and cause the installation to fail within a short period of time not to mention corrosion. |
This is very true.
I have all too much experience with this very scenario.
Anyone here ever get a bad Network RJ-45 connector contact due to corrosion, coating, humidity, weakened springs, etc.
Same thing here.
While I'm sure that people will have great luck with the new mod (that is for those with pre August Xboxes) this will prove to be somewhat problematic.
Yes, soldered chips are better. But on the other hand, wow are there a lot of screwed up Xboxes floating around due to people who have no right to pick up an iron.
Post by: M3_DeL on September 23, 2002, 12:06:00 PM
but yeah guys lets get real here.....when executer was in the mix of being developed everyone was pissed and saying it couldn't be done blah blah blah.......then it came out and it worked and it was the easiest to install. and mine works flawlessly
People are just pissed because they installed 5,000 wires on theirs and now there is an easier one out. Xodus is nice......The only thing that might hinder sales is the fact that new xbox's are resisting chips 
Might have taken to long to start selling (for newbs at least) Shout out to all the xbox-scene newbs
Like myself
Post by: kkattfish on September 23, 2002, 01:37:00 PM
Post by: 82ross on September 23, 2002, 01:42:00 PM
The corrosion, coating, humidity, weakened springs problems, should be minimum as long as people respect what type of chip they have. If its treated correctly it should last a long time, maybe as long as any other component made of the same materials (well maybe not as long, a little less but not as short as some people might think).
If i expected my box to not stay in the same position 99% of the time i would use a solder mod. If your gonna plonk you box next to your tele and hardy ever move it, this mod could be perfect. Only time will tell imo, highly dependant on the quality of its manufacturing and design.
Ill wait till i get a hands on look at it. Before then this is all just an vague opinion. Not something id stand by.
Post by: formosauk on September 23, 2002, 02:34:00 PM
if you really dont like soldering why dont you just buy an xbox already modified.
im getting a pcbioxx.
Post by: RickH on September 23, 2002, 02:42:00 PM
Post by: captain1284 on September 23, 2002, 03:03:00 PM
about how crap the executer just because they carnt solder and killed
another box.
got to agree with rickh in a few weeks time i expect to see posts about
how crap this chip is just because theyve got to pop the top and re seat
the chip. spring connects are ok for short term use but for prolonged use
its just asking for trouble..
i hope im wrong about this but i doubt it
Post by: jjstecchino on September 23, 2002, 03:35:00 PM
Post by: DaGamePimp on September 23, 2002, 05:36:00 PM
__Give it a chance people ,
-[DGP]-
Post by: RickH on September 23, 2002, 06:05:00 PM
Post by: Dark Schneider on September 23, 2002, 09:07:00 PM
Now I'm not saying it's the best, and yes I did say I would consider getting one myself, but it still has to be put through the rigors of a real world test. So give it a week, and we will see what kind of threads appear about the people using it.
Yes I do see overtorque'd chips becoming a problem, and yes there is the possibility for corrosion around the points that make contact with the board. Gold will not stop this, infact it may cause an electrolisis effect around the surrounding area depending on the trace composition. But that's all BS for now, so we'll just have to see how it goes.
All in all it is what the X-ecuter was supposed to be, but I would still rather have my X-ecuter as it is...and NOT blobbed onto the mainboard might I add.
What everyone was REALLY bashing was the fact that EasyBuy so nonchalantly told everyone that ordered a PcBioxx that they were not getting it, and they decided to give them what THEY wanted to, not what was ordered. So there was a hell of a lot of p.o.'d people out there feeling like they had been scammed. EasyBuy still does suck for doing that , and they did hurt public opinion of the chip in the short term.
Post by: neksone on September 23, 2002, 10:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (bwn82k @ Sep 24 2002, 04:06 AM) |
Now some of you are complaining about the fact the X-ecuter came out with that design first. In a way this is true. Xodus just improved it. I don't see anyone flaming Pepsi just because Coke came out first. You really can't change the shape of the chip too much because the design is based on the Xbox's motherboard. You could say that the X-ecuter chip has pioneered a 'generic' shape of these types of mod chips. |
good point bwn82k
Post by: obiwan on September 24, 2002, 01:43:00 AM
yes its much easier to install because they thought of everything about connectivity! that spacer did solve our question about the screwing.
Post by: jjstecchino on September 24, 2002, 12:15:00 PM
Post by: jjstecchino on September 24, 2002, 12:15:00 PM