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Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 05, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
I use composite video (yellow plug) for my xbox. Video as u all know, aint so good but O.K.
I wanted to upgrade to a component cable(considering MADCATZ UNIVERSAL).

My TV Supports 480i but not 480p.

So my question is ,

1) What difference would there be, if I switch to component (480i)(the max possible quality on my T.V) ??

2) Will there be any quality difference between madcatz cable & MS's OFFICIAL Hidef component cable??

I expect a massive difference.
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: phrozenfeonix on July 05, 2006, 06:47:00 PM
i have a samsung 20" flat tube tv, it has component in, but doesn't supports HDTV, even still, the picture quality between the composite and component cables is stunning. Although between the 2 brands, i'm not sure how much difference you'd notice at those resolutions.
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 05, 2006, 07:30:00 PM
What cables are u using?
U mean 480 interlaced, right??
BTW i hv a 32" Sony WEGA FLAT(anyone else using the same T.V.???)
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 06, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
Some bump.... sleep.gif
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 08, 2006, 06:58:00 AM
sleeping.gif  (72 hours)
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: lusal on July 08, 2006, 07:36:00 AM
The difference between composite and component is very noticeable. (Yes...upgrade to component!)

The difference between various component cables or brands of component cables is not as noticeable.(Buy MS or MadCatz - whatever you want...it's your money.)

It's common sense, here.  Use the best form of connectivity that your TV/Monitor allows for all of your devices (DVD Player, Cable Box, Satellite Receiver, game consoles etc.).  In your situation, it's clearly component all the way.

<grumpy old man post> mad.gif

Back in my day, the 27" Sony Trinitron I owned used to have an S-Video input (great signal 12-15 years ago).  I had to order expensive custom S-Video cables for all of my older systems.  Redmond Cable took a lot of my money back then.

Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 08, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
Well then,
I'll go with the best in class MONSTER CABLES FOR XBOX!!
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: pimpmaul69 on July 09, 2006, 01:21:00 AM
you can use the cheapest shittiest crappy component cables or 90 dollar monster cables and get the same damn effect..my 75 dollar a peice cables werent necessary but free to me..unlike composite wich is an analog signal you do not get the same quality loss from a component/digital signal
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: deadparrot on July 09, 2006, 03:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Hyperiority @ Jul 5 2006, 08:11 PM) View Post
1) What difference would there be, if I switch to component (480i)(the max possible quality on my T.V) ??

You will see NO difference if you use component cables on that TV.

Everyone who sees a difference on non-hdtv sets are using edtv sets which support 480p.  Since yours is simply sdtv, you will not see any difference and are wasting your money.
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: pimpmaul69 on July 09, 2006, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Jul 9 2006, 10:51 AM) View Post

You will see NO difference if you use component cables on that TV.

Everyone who sees a difference on non-hdtv sets are using edtv sets which support 480p.  Since yours is simply sdtv, you will not see any difference and are wasting your money.

i beg to differ..even s-video is a big improvement over composite so  component even on sdtv is gonna be an improvement
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 09, 2006, 10:32:00 AM
oh... ok...

MADCATZ       >            Psyclone             >            Monster XGL400X

Since there isn't gonna be much difference unsure.gif on my 480 Interlaced set, i'll go with Psyclone(24.95)  and see how it works!!

Replies are most welcome....
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: TheIrishLad on July 10, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
QUOTE(deadparrot @ Jul 9 2006, 04:51 AM) View Post

You will see NO difference if you use component cables on that TV.

Everyone who sees a difference on non-hdtv sets are using edtv sets which support 480p.  Since yours is simply sdtv, you will not see any difference and are wasting your money.

What?  I believe that you are wrong...Even on an ordinary TV (640x480) composites signal will give you a fuzzy picture.  But with component cables it will sharpen up the image, and remove the fuzziness, it won't look as good as 480p, but 480i with component will look better then 480i with composite.
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 10, 2006, 10:37:00 AM
Hey IrishLad,

what do u think about

MADCATZ > MS HD AV  >  Psyclone > Monster XGL400X
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: TheIrishLad on July 10, 2006, 02:03:00 PM
If you want the best, then Monster is the way to go, here is the Monster cable for 20$ shipped off of flea-bay http://cgi.ebay.com/...1QQcmdZViewItem

If you can't see an improvement from composite->component then there is something very wrong....  wink.gif
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 10, 2006, 02:30:00 PM
Hey,
1 ?n Can ebay be trusted??? Because I mostly use Buy / amazon / shop.com
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: TheIrishLad on July 10, 2006, 03:07:00 PM
Yeah, eBay is great, just look at the "feedback" score of the person you are buying from, for example the link I posted the seller was 99.4% which is extremely good, with over 20,000 sales.  

If your new to Ebay you will have to make an account though, which requires the usual things, credit card or banking account etc...I've been using Ebay for years, and never once have I been cheated.  Its the best place to buy used anything from, or new!
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: The Zep Man on July 10, 2006, 09:14:00 PM
Trust me, on standard TV's (only capable of 480i and/or 576i) component or RGB SCART makes a huge difference compared to composite video or even S-video. The image is sharper and colors are less flickering/blurring.

General rule of thumb with analogue video: The more you split the different signals over different wires/cables between source and destination, the better the quality.
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 11, 2006, 08:29:00 AM
Yeah! I'm gonna buy one for sure.
Mean while One question > When I set the flicker filter in XBMC to 0, It flickers like HELL... [w/ Composite]

Is there gonna b any difference w/ Component like NOT flickering/NOT being Reddish.... Like that???


Title: Video Output Question
Post by: pimpmaul69 on July 11, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
QUOTE(The Zep Man @ Jul 11 2006, 04:21 AM) View Post

General rule of thumb with analogue video: The more you split the different signals over different wires/cables between source and destination, the better the quality.

 just so you know component is a digital signal unlike s-video and composite so it is a better signal anyways
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: veeper on July 14, 2006, 12:29:00 PM
QUOTE(pimpmaul69 @ Jul 11 2006, 07:10 PM) View Post

just so you know component is a digital signal unlike s-video and composite so it is a better signal anyways


In fact, component is analog like the others. But it's the best you can get unless you want DVI or even HDMI.
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: pimpmaul69 on July 16, 2006, 12:37:00 AM
QUOTE(veeper @ Jul 14 2006, 07:36 PM) View Post

In fact, component is analog like the others. But it's the best you can get unless you want DVI or even HDMI.

your right im wrong.. forgive me
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: Hyperiority on July 16, 2006, 08:08:00 AM
PAL t.v's have better resolution than NTSC's right ??
I remember 525 lines drawn in odds and evens. RIght??
Title: Video Output Question
Post by: pimpmaul69 on July 16, 2006, 07:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Hyperiority @ Jul 16 2006, 03:15 PM) View Post

PAL t.v's have better resolution than NTSC's right ??
I remember 525 lines drawn in odds and evens. RIght??

dunno about the resolution i just know there is a lag in pal video that ntsc does not have