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Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: mrogers on June 22, 2006, 12:29:00 PM
I have a couple of questions about output to VGA using a custom-made cable. I have searched this site and Google extensively, and read every tutorial I can find, but there's a couple things I'm still unsure about.

First, can you or can you not do this with a 1.6? Most posts I have found suggest that getting your homemade VGA cable to work on a 1.6+ is impossible, but I found a changelog for the X3 bios that says VGA mode is supported for all Xbox versions 1.0-1.6b. I don't really think this is possible, but I just want to confirm that.

Second, for my 1.1 Xbox this should work providing I use an X3 bios with VGA support. If I have a monitor with VGA, S-Video, and Composite inputs, my question is: is it worth it to do the VGA, or should I just use S-Video? I'm not well-versed enough in video signal technology to know if the VGA connection will look a lot better than the S-Video. From the little I do know, I think it will, but I'm not sure and I was wondering if I could get some opinions. Obviously computer monitors have much better resolutions than televisions, but I'm not sure how much I'll be able to take advatage of that with an Xbox.

Thanks for any advice!
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: xboxgamer733 on June 22, 2006, 01:23:00 PM
QUOTE(mrogers @ Jun 22 2006, 12:36 PM) View Post
First, can you or can you not do this with a 1.6?
As of now, you cannot output VGA video on a 1.6 Xbox. A separate transcoder is the only way to achieve VGA output.

QUOTE(mrogers @ Jun 22 2006, 12:36 PM) View Post
is it worth it to do the VGA, or should I just use S-Video?
Definitely use VGA if you can. VGA signals are able to carry a few times more information than S-Video.
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: eksLax on June 22, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
can you output VGA signal from a 1.6 using something like x2vga adapter. And when using the adapter is it that still better then s-video.
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: veeper on June 22, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
By adaptors you mean transcoder, I assume. These do work well with any xbox version except the older versions of eg. the X2VGA. No matter wether you use a VDigi-Z3 or a Digital-X X2VGA(2)(+) or a Component to VGA-Box.
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: mrogers on July 12, 2006, 05:44:00 AM
Ok sorry to bring this back after 3 weeks but now that I've got my Xbox working again I'm looking to do this.

I have an extra standard Xbox A/V cable and a spare VGA cable. From what I can tell, the monitor I'm going to use this on (an "old" Dell 2000fp 20" LCD) has Sync-on-Green so I can just use the straight-through method described here with no additional electronic components. The issue I'm still a little lost on is the BIOS. I use EvoX M8+ right now. According to the XS BIOS chart, NO bios is VGA capable, but I know that's not accurate because obviously people make this work. What BIOS should I use? The only features I need are IGR and the abililty to skip the DVD check.

Has anyone ever used one of these? I'm surprised I haven't seen much talk about them considering they're only $25.
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: devilmaycry666 on July 12, 2006, 05:52:00 AM
QUOTE(mrogers @ Jul 12 2006, 07:51 AM) View Post


Has anyone ever used one of these? I'm surprised I haven't seen much talk about them considering they're only $25.


The reason there only $25 is there not HD.
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: Textbook on July 12, 2006, 09:12:00 AM
Use the iND VGA BIOS patched by junkymonkey or something like that.
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: pimpmaul69 on July 12, 2006, 09:28:00 AM
go a few pages back and use dvaders vga patch.. you can patch any non 1.6 bios and it works awesome..ind bios wont display flubber and stuff for me but dvaders vga patch will
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: ClintiePoo on July 13, 2006, 08:15:00 PM
QUOTE(pimpmaul69 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:35 AM) View Post

go a few pages back and use dvaders vga patch.. you can patch any non 1.6 bios and it works awesome..ind bios wont display flubber and stuff for me but dvaders vga patch will


Yeah, patch X2_5035 for VGA with this patch.  It's the best option (in my opinion) for your situation.
Title: Vga Cable Questions
Post by: Agathon on December 30, 2006, 02:50:00 AM
QUOTE(mrogers @ Jul 12 2006, 01:51 PM) View Post

Ok sorry to bring this back after 3 weeks but now that I've got my Xbox working again I'm looking to do this.

I have an extra standard Xbox A/V cable and a spare VGA cable. From what I can tell, the monitor I'm going to use this on (an "old" Dell 2000fp 20" LCD) has Sync-on-Green so I can just use the straight-through method described here with no additional electronic components. The issue I'm still a little lost on is the BIOS. I use EvoX M8+ right now. According to the XS BIOS chart, NO bios is VGA capable, but I know that's not accurate because obviously people make this work. What BIOS should I use? The only features I need are IGR and the abililty to skip the DVD check.

Has anyone ever used one of these? I'm surprised I haven't seen much talk about them considering they're only $25.


But can I have better signal to my old video projector with this?I now use composite (I assume...one cable with RCA) and try to find solution to connect Xbox in to it. The model is this:
http://www.projector...S1024_SUPER.htm
and pic of its connectors:
http://riemun.huuto....561c8e-orig.jpg
Xbox is modded with Duox (I assume...)

Plese, give info which is the best way to connect.

Thanks in advance.