Post by: Textbook on January 22, 2006, 11:06:00 PM
For those expecting to see the tutorial right here, sorry. This time, I wrote my tutorial in webpage format and used a free web host to host it. It was a new experience for me, with it's ups and downs, but all in all, the main point of any tutorial is the user. I chose a web tutorial this time because it can be more interactive, and show you only the stuff you need to see, but still give you a complete tutorial without clutter. I basically compiled information from many other amazing tutorials and put it all into one. I spent a long time working on this, and will be updating it if it needs be. Hopefully, people will find this helpful, and maybe it can be stickied and put an end to all the VGA questions.
Please take a look at the tutorial HERE. Remember it is hosted on a free host, so if a page doesn't load, just hit refresh, it's there.
Please post any comments/suggestions/changes/questions in this forum.
Thanks.
Post by: dstealth on January 23, 2006, 04:05:00 PM
Post by: leeloo5 on January 24, 2006, 08:57:00 AM
You might want to note that the EASIEST way to get a working cable w/o soldering is to use a triple RCA joiner to connect an xbox component cable to a RCA to VGA 15pin plug. Then if you have SOG, you're done, no soldering, plus you still have your component cable. Oh, and for sound you might need to buy an RCA to stereo miniplug adapter.
Post by: simsbox on January 24, 2006, 10:00:00 AM
I dont have a chip, Will i still be able to watch the xbox on my monitor?
Post by: johnnyrico on January 24, 2006, 10:20:00 AM
actually those photo's and the xbox repair guide copyrighted, causing confusion on wether I can consider this guide fully legal or with "Stolen" pictures.
overall I like your guide a lot, but couldn't you perhaps remove the xboxrepairguide.com part under the pictures?
just to keep people like me from saying it contains "stolen" content.
I know I'll get flamed for this, but my intentions are good
Post by: Textbook on January 24, 2006, 12:51:00 PM
QUOTE(dstealth @ Jan 23 2006, 06:12 PM) 
I'm pretty hacked off about there not being a VGA compatible bios out for the v1.6 xbox. Especially when I run Linux on my 1.6 and I was going to buy a VGA adapter.
Actually, Yoshihiro released a BETA 1.6 VGA BIOS, but it's debug only and isn't working very well. And Team Xecuter has the option to enable VGA on their X3 chips. This doesn't work very well either. Maybe with both of them working together, we could see a fully functioning retail VGA Bios compatible with 1.6.
QUOTE(leeloo5 @ Jan 24 2006, 11:04 AM)
i love when websites say copyright ... when they haven't copyrighted anything. anyway, there can never be too many tutorials. If you want, post a link at the end of my pinned topic, or email a mod to ask for a pin. nice lengthy work.
If you notice, the only things I said were copyrighted were other people's work, just so people like that johnnyrico up there wouldn't flip out, but he did anyway. I just didn't want people thinking I made the diagrams, pictures, or anything like that, so I figured a C symbol was the easiest way of mentioning the source.
QUOTE(leeloo5 @ Jan 24 2006, 11:04 AM)
You might want to note that the EASIEST way to get a working cable w/o soldering is to use a triple RCA joiner to connect an xbox component cable to a RCA to VGA 15pin plug. Then if you have SOG, you're done, no soldering, plus you still have your component cable. Oh, and for sound you might need to buy an RCA to stereo miniplug adapter.
Wow, I didn't even know they made those things, looks like I'll be adding to my tutorial.
QUOTE(simsbox @ Jan 24 2006, 12:07 PM)
i heard you need to flash your chip if you want to put on a VGA,
I dont have a chip, Will i still be able to watch the xbox on my monitor?
If you read the guide, it gives you options for 1.0-1.5 softmodded Xboxes.
QUOTE(johnnyrico @ Jan 24 2006, 12:27 PM)
I don't wanna act like an a$$h0le(intentinally put in 1337 speak to do a little bit of censorship), but I see you took some pictures from xboxrepairguide.com
actually those photo's and the xbox repair guide copyrighted, causing confusion on wether I can consider this guide fully legal or with "Stolen" pictures.
overall I like your guide a lot, but couldn't you perhaps remove the xboxrepairguide.com part under the pictures?
just to keep people like me from saying it contains "stolen" content.
I know I'll get flamed for this, but my intentions are good
Not exactly flamed, but corrected. Yes, I took some pictures from www.xboxrepairguide.com. Although it would be another story if I got those pictures out of the private, pay-for guide, I did not. Those pictures actually come from a completely public "sample" page by www.xboxrepairguide.com. If you don't believe me, you can view the page HERE. And as I said earlier in the tutorial, I do not take credit for any of the pictures/diagrams in the guide. I gave credit to XboxRepairGuide underneath those images, with a link to that sample guide. So I believe I am "OK" here because I didn't claim them as my own, and they are completly public work, meaning it's free game. I would never display images from a pay-for guide.
QUOTE(zwinglio @ Jan 24 2006, 02:00 PM)
Hi Textbook,if you want i could translater your guide in italian and put it on the italian xbox forum ** People linking to that site hosting BIOS files, etc. ** Do Not use that link or site name reference on XS * so many italian people as me can read it;)
^^ Obviously, XS doesn't like the site in question, but by all means, you can save all the webpages to your computer, translate it, and host it on a different site.
Post by: HardcorePooka on January 24, 2006, 03:37:00 PM
QUOTE(leeloo5 @ Jan 24 2006, 10:04 AM)
i love when websites say copyright ... when they haven't copyrighted anything. anyway, there can never be too many tutorials. If you want, post a link at the end of my pinned topic, or email a mod to ask for a pin. nice lengthy work.
Just so you know, you don't have to actually go through the process of copyrighting for it to be considered copyrighted. As soon as someone creates a work it is considered copyrighted.
Taken directly from the US Copyright Office's website:
Copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work. Only the author or those deriving their rights through the author can rightfully claim copyright.
And... I like the tutorial. If I was interested in doing this I would like it even more. Good work nonetheless.
Post by: AfterTheInsanity on January 24, 2006, 08:15:00 PM
Post by: Textbook on January 24, 2006, 09:36:00 PM
Actually, I made mine in MS Publisher, and could have chosen pre-made layouts/templates, but decided on a blank web page. I like it the way it is, nothing distracting, straight to the point. But thanks anyways.
Post by: Devastater on January 24, 2006, 11:24:00 PM
http://photobucket.c...Def_AV_Pack.gif
will this work??? and the kicker.....will it work on a 1.6??? ( of course the version i have)
Post by: Textbook on January 25, 2006, 12:23:00 AM
Q: Will this work on LIVE?
A: Yes, but everything is going to be green
Q: Will this work on LIVE, and not be green?
A: No
Q: How can I then?
A: Buy a transcoder like the X2VGA+ or VDIGI VD-Z3. The first one plugs right into your Xbox and converts it to VGA, and it can be used with no BIOS/Patch, meaning you can use it on LIVE. The second converts component to VGA, so you would also need Xbox HD pack or other Xbox Component cables. This also works with no BIOS/Patch, so you can use it on LIVE. These will also work on all Xbox versions.
Q: Does making the VGA cable/port yourself work with Version 1.6 Xboxes?
A: No, not at the moment.
Post by: Devastater on January 25, 2006, 05:16:00 AM
QUOTE
Q: Does making the VGA cable/port yourself work with Version 1.6 Xboxes?
A: No, not at the moment.
A: No, not at the moment.
do you say that because the port itself will not work for some reason or is it that there isn't a reliable bios for it yet???
amd will all these other ports in this picture work on a 1.6 ???
http://photobucket.c...Def_AV_Pack.gif
Post by: Textbook on January 25, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
By the way, the picture in that album comes from JaredC01's Guide Here On Xbox-Scene. But yes, all the other ports will work. They didn't change any of the connectors/pinouts, they just changed the video encoder.
Post by: johnnyrico on January 27, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Jan 24 2006, 08:58 PM)
Not exactly flamed, but corrected. Yes, I took some pictures from www.xboxrepairguide.com. Although it would be another story if I got those pictures out of the private, pay-for guide, I did not. Those pictures actually come from a completely public "sample" page by www.xboxrepairguide.com. If you don't believe me, you can view the page HERE. And as I said earlier in the tutorial, I do not take credit for any of the pictures/diagrams in the guide. I gave credit to XboxRepairGuide underneath those images, with a link to that sample guide. So I believe I am "OK" here because I didn't claim them as my own, and they are completly public work, meaning it's free game. I would never display images from a pay-for guide.
^^ Obviously, XS doesn't like the site in question, but by all means, you can save all the webpages to your computer, translate it, and host it on a different site.
yeah, guess that can be considered ok than I guess, since you did give credit to xboxrepairguide.com for the pics
I dunno wether XS doesn't like this site because you need to pay for the guide or some other reasons, but it is a good guide to learn the basics indeed.
BTW: seems the original XBRG page has been taken down or something.
QUOTE(Textbook @ Jan 24 2006, 08:58 PM)
If you notice, the only things I said were copyrighted were other people's work, just so people like that johnnyrico up there wouldn't flip out, but he did anyway. I just didn't want people thinking I made the diagrams, pictures, or anything like that, so I figured a C symbol was the easiest way of mentioning the source.
I wasn't flipping out, I was just making an observation and intended to help with improving your guide(and preventing some of those jerks to come with their lawyer and order you to take down your fine guide)
Post by: Textbook on January 28, 2006, 12:41:00 AM
QUOTE
^^ Obviously, XS doesn't like the site in question, but by all means, you can save all the webpages to your computer, translate it, and host it on a different site.
QUOTE
I dunno wether XS doesn't like this site because you need to pay for the guide or some other reasons, but it is a good guide to learn the basics indeed.
Actually, my quote about XS not liking the site in question was referring to the italian forums that zwinglio tried to post a link to. I was saying XS doesn't like the italian forums (whatever URL it is) not the xboxrepairguide site. Xbox-Scene applies filters to URLs that may contain anything that is against the rules here. Usually piracy, as this is the case with the Italian Forums.
QUOTE
BTW: seems the original XBRG page has been taken down or something.
It's sort of hit-and-miss. It's never been taken down, but every once in a while it will give you a "Page not found" error even though the page is there. I'm guessing the xboxrepairguide server or host is not perfect. But the site is still up, has been for a couple years (I think). Just have to hit refresh.
QUOTE
I wasn't flipping out, I was just making an observation and intended to help with improving your guide(and preventing some of those jerks to come with their lawyer and order you to take down your fine guide) wink.gif
You're correct, I should choose my words more carefully. I do appreciate your post, as I am open to any questions/comments/feedback that anybody will give me. I could see where you were looking out for me, and I appreciate that. Thank you for being honest and intelligent, it's good when I can talk to other civilized people on the internet. I haven't updated the tutorial since the first day I uploaded it, because I have been swamped with work. Will do so in the early future, as well as begin writing my NDURE tutorial.
Just trying to help out the scene in the only way I know how...
Post by: johnnyrico on January 28, 2006, 08:21:00 AM
Post by: Agrooreo on February 09, 2006, 02:10:00 AM
Post by: Textbook on February 12, 2006, 11:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Murmlgrmpf @ Jan 30 2006, 05:49 PM)
your guide is a really helpful compilation!
I built my vga adapter with a poti in order to figure out the best resistance.
One thing you really should add to your tutorial is this comment of Leeloo5 :
In order to enable hdtv 480p blindly under ms dashboard:
boot with vga calbe hooked to your xbox
[go blindly to msdashboard launch in your os]
then type:
When at the MS dashboard do this:
Down 5 times, Hit A
Down 3 times, Hit A
Down 1 time, Hit A
Left 1 time, Hit A
Hit B 3 times to go back to main menu.
Reboot
and voila green tint image !! great.
Not necessary anymore since with the latest MS Dash (5960) you can simply press the Left trigger, Right trigger, and click both thumbsticks down simultaneously to "switch" to 480p temporarily. Then, you can see and enable 480p in the menu the normal way, seeing everything as you go. Of course, the blind mode will still work, but it's no longer necessary to have to be blind.
QUOTE(Murmlgrmpf @ Jan 30 2006, 05:49 PM)
Ah yeah one last question: i have got a tsopped xbox v1.0 (with fan on gpu) thus connexant. what would you recommend:
either to flash tsop with ind bios
or to install a "softmod" on top and using
-pbl and ind bios
-nkpatcher and doctor's patch
Option 1 and 2 that you listed will both work. In fact, it's pretty much using the same BIOS, just in a different method of launching it and a different bootable form of the BIOS. Option 3 that you listed (NKP and DR's VGA Patch) will not work with Conexant video encoders. All blacks will be red on an LCD and all reds will be blacks on a CRT. He still hasn't figure out this issue. He came out with a new build for people to test out. When they tried it, it would lock up the Xbox. I hope he is still going to work on it, but I don't think he will unfortunately. So yeah, either flash the TSOP to the 1mb VGA iND 5001 BIOS by junkmonkey, or you can boot PBL and have it load a 1mb VGA iND 5001 BFM BIOS by junkmonkey.
QUOTE(Murmlgrmpf @ Jan 30 2006, 05:49 PM)
i could even just launch the two last ones using my bios. (without a softmod)
If you are interested, i could help you validate your results (in a different thread i read you were testing some patches for nkpatcher)
Well, I would basically just like to get Conexant VGA support with Dr's patch because it is a lot easier than my current setup.
Right now, my current setup is:
1. Set up a dual-altdash with Krayzie's NDURE 1.1
2. PBL-Lite as the altdash, loading 1mb VGA BFM iND BIOS
3. Since that BIOS is set to load C:/evoxdash.xbe, I had to go into Krayzie's Extras, then Proffesional Mode, and upload an XBE shortcut to the true C drive and named it evoxdash.xbe
Post by: JaredC01 on February 17, 2006, 05:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Feb 12 2006, 12:15 PM)
Not necessary anymore since with the latest MS Dash (5960) you can simply press the Left trigger, Right trigger, and click both thumbsticks down simultaneously to "switch" to 480p temporarily. Then, you can see and enable 480p in the menu the normal way, seeing everything as you go. Of course, the blind mode will still work, but it's no longer necessary to have to be blind.
Option 1 and 2 that you listed will both work. In fact, it's pretty much using the same BIOS, just in a different method of launching it and a different bootable form of the BIOS. Option 3 that you listed (NKP and DR's VGA Patch) will not work with Conexant video encoders. All blacks will be red on an LCD and all reds will be blacks on a CRT. He still hasn't figure out this issue. He came out with a new build for people to test out. When they tried it, it would lock up the Xbox. I hope he is still going to work on it, but I don't think he will unfortunately. So yeah, either flash the TSOP to the 1mb VGA iND 5001 BIOS by junkmonkey, or you can boot PBL and have it load a 1mb VGA iND 5001 BFM BIOS by junkmonkey.
Well, I would basically just like to get Conexant VGA support with Dr's patch because it is a lot easier than my current setup.
Right now, my current setup is:
1. Set up a dual-altdash with Krayzie's NDURE 1.1
2. PBL-Lite as the altdash, loading 1mb VGA BFM iND BIOS
3. Since that BIOS is set to load C:/evoxdash.xbe, I had to go into Krayzie's Extras, then Proffesional Mode, and upload an XBE shortcut to the true C drive and named it evoxdash.xbe
Not a bad little tutorial... I've actually been thinking about working on a tutorial in flash using my diagrams, with all of the extra's. You've just inspired me to start working on it
. Expect to see something about it in a few days.
Post by: Textbook on February 17, 2006, 11:45:00 PM
EDIT: I just now realized I used two of your guides. The VGA one and the Halo 2 crouch switch. Just letting you know both of your tutorials have helped me out. I guess we have the same interests. I love my crouch switch controller! When I play on a different controller, I'm always hitting my left hand middle finger down and thinking "Oh, stupid non-crouch switch controller - noob"
Post by: JaredC01 on February 18, 2006, 09:48:00 AM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Feb 18 2006, 12:52 AM)
EDIT: I just now realized I used two of your guides. The VGA one and the Halo 2 crouch switch. Just letting you know both of your tutorials have helped me out. I guess we have the same interests. I love my crouch switch controller! When I play on a different controller, I'm always hitting my left hand middle finger down and thinking "Oh, stupid non-crouch switch controller - noob"
Haha, glad to know I've helped you out in more than one way
.
Post by: jeff d on February 22, 2006, 02:43:00 PM
I got fed up with trying to solder my own cable so I went to Best Buy and got a "GameShark Universal Component Video/Audio Cable" for $15. It had connectors on one end for both the PS2 and XBOX, Component and audio on the other. I borrowed a 15 Pin VGA<-->RGBHV cable as well as 3 adapters to go from male RCA to BNC (Essentially the same as a Component<-->15 Pin VGA with RCA couplers because I didn't use the leads for H & V Sync). I hooked it all up to the VGA port on a Sharp PG-A20X projector and it worked at 480P!
No bios reflash necessary. I actually tried reflashing with the VGA BIOS and only then did I get the all green screen that I should be seeing with the xecuter BIOS. It even works with the factory MS BIOS.
I then tried it on my Dell 18" UltraSharp and there I did have to use the VGA BIOS in order to get more than just green on the screen.
Anyway, apparenly at least some Sharp projectors will accept a pure "Component" signal through the VGA port with no BIOS modification. Not sure why they just didn't put component inputs right on the side and save a lot of trouble.
Post by: Icantfindanick on February 24, 2006, 04:40:00 AM
I have built my own VGA cable, using those guides, I didn't need to use the LM circuit as my monitor (Dell UltraSharp 1800FP) supported Sync on Green. The first cable I built used the pins 13-14 and 9-10 as activated swithces (VGA), and this allowed me to get a nicely shown green Xbox error 21 screen on my monitor. I figured out that I would have to change the switches to component output (pins 13-14 and 11-12). I connected that to my monitor but I'm unable to get any image shown, so my guess was that I would have to switch to 480p mode.
My Xbox was originally PAL, but I edited the eeprom to make it work as NTSC so I could enable HD modes if I needed to. So I blindly try to get to the Video settings on the MS Dashboard and enable 480p, but I'm still not getting an image of any kind on my monitor after rebooting, (although by the sounds my guess is that the 480p - Yes setting was stored properly).
Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance.
Post by: Textbook on March 08, 2006, 05:33:00 AM
Post by: yojimbo2k on March 09, 2006, 07:04:00 AM
Great tutorial - all these tutorials are great as I'm attempting to get VGA output from my box... with no joy as of yet I might add. I updated to the latest MS Dash, am using an Iiyama flat panel that claims to sync on green, and have a mod chip installed. two quick questions for you though:
are your pin diagrams viewed from the back of the plug? e.g. I presume the 15pin d layout is from the back of the plug where the solder points are?
the avip plug numbering is throwing me a little. I presume the top end is the narrow point. however when I orient my plug to the same as your diagrams the pin tracks go lshort/long/short etc. instead of long/short/long like yours (if you follow me). Should I just ignore that entirely and presume that the numbering it the same just from the plug orientation?
I'm close to heaving the board out and attempting to solder direct to the board but my soldering inexperience (i managed the mod chip install but it was pin header) is putting me off a little - not to mention my first lovely burn from my iron that I got last night.
Post by: yojimbo2k on March 09, 2006, 02:56:00 PM
you sir are a genius. that's the only tutorial I managed to get working. thank you!
Post by: Textbook on March 09, 2006, 04:11:00 PM
Haha, all 3 of your posts are in this thread, I feel special.
Post by: Joshua Wood on March 10, 2006, 02:18:00 PM
Post by: ClintiePoo on March 10, 2006, 07:22:00 PM
Post by: ClintiePoo on March 11, 2006, 11:20:00 PM
Post by: Joshua Wood on March 14, 2006, 03:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Icantfindanick @ Mar 14 2006, 01:26 AM)
Well, forget the previous post I did some time ago =x
I've done the cable properly, without the right bios the image looks green, with the vga ind-bios the colours look perfect, however there is a small problem in both modes: the screen goes black for a few seconds randomly, sometimes some minutes pass without happening but sometimes it happens every few seconds and gets really annoying, not to say that games get unplayable.
Hm, I use an x2vga+ and have noticed the screen blacking for a few seconds repeatedly, at times. Never had it longer than a few secs. The x2vga is converting component signals to vga singals, so not sure if this is technically any different from the monitors point of view. The sound the monitor makes appears like it's trying to change video modes for some reason (even though the end mode is exactly the same). Wondering if it's confusing the signals it's receiving? I'm not sure if this in an xbox issue or a monitor issue.
Post by: Icantfindanick on March 14, 2006, 04:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Joshua Wood @ Mar 14 2006, 11:13 PM)
The sound the monitor makes appears like it's trying to change video modes for some reason (even though the end mode is exactly the same). Wondering if it's confusing the signals it's receiving? I'm not sure if this in an xbox issue or a monitor issue.
My monitor doesn't do any sound as it is an lcd, but it is exactly the same kind of blacking that would do on a video mode change. What I'll try is adding the circuit to separate the sync signal and check if that solves the problem in my case.
Post by: fixxxer575 on March 14, 2006, 11:58:00 PM
QUOTE(yojimbo2k @ Mar 9 2006, 06:11 AM)
Hi Textbook
Great tutorial - all these tutorials are great as I'm attempting to get VGA output from my box... with no joy as of yet I might add. I updated to the latest MS Dash, am using an Iiyama flat panel that claims to sync on green, and have a mod chip installed. two quick questions for you though:
are your pin diagrams viewed from the back of the plug? e.g. I presume the 15pin d layout is from the back of the plug where the solder points are?
the avip plug numbering is throwing me a little. I presume the top end is the narrow point. however when I orient my plug to the same as your diagrams the pin tracks go lshort/long/short etc. instead of long/short/long like yours (if you follow me). Should I just ignore that entirely and presume that the numbering it the same just from the plug orientation?
I had the same problem the long pin tracks are short and the short ones are long compared to the diagram. I just went ahead and assumed that the pinout was correct.
I'm not sure if my CRT monitor supports SOG its a Nokia Multigraph 447Za and it wasn't on the list. When I plug my Xbox into my monitor the screen just has lines going down it. Does this mean my monitor doesn't support SOG or does it mean that the xbox isn't configured to the right resolution? I'm using XBMC as my dashboard and I have it set to autodetec my resolution. Does that work or do I have to set it blindly?
Thanks
Post by: Textbook on March 15, 2006, 08:26:00 AM
QUOTE
Simultaneously hit all these buttons and hold them down for a second:
- Left Trigger
- Right Trigger
- Left Thumbstick (click down)
- Right Thumbstick (click down)
- Left Trigger
- Right Trigger
- Left Thumbstick (click down)
- Right Thumbstick (click down)
This will temporarily enable 480p and you should then be able to at least see the MS Dash. When you can see it, go to the Video settings and set the 480p to enabled so that it will stay enabled until you want to change it back again.
Post by: Foe-hammer on March 15, 2006, 03:49:00 PM
For those who use dr oldschools nkpatcher, does 720p work flawlessly, or at all? If so, we need it for conexant xbox's, and need them included in some hacked bios.
Because of this the vga bios are not a good solution for xbox vga, and a transcoder is the only complete solutions.
Post by: pulnip on March 16, 2006, 12:34:00 AM
PAL box
50hz ?
Post by: Textbook on March 16, 2006, 08:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Mar 15 2006, 05:56 PM)
The main problem with the vga bios, not to mention that some games revert back to green, is that there is no viable solution for 720p. First of all, most monitors will not be compatible with the tri-level sync for 720p, and thereby produce an unbalanced, dark, color ratio. And even if your monitor does except a tri-level sync, there is still problems with 720p, that being the corners of the screen are fubared; the blacks are white, and there is a wave pattern.
For those who use dr oldschools nkpatcher, does 720p work flawlessly, or at all? If so, we need it for conexant xbox's, and need them included in some hacked bios.
Because of this the vga bios are not a good solution for xbox vga, and a transcoder is the only complete solutions.
I use my VGA for 480p. 720p would be nice, but I'm not pushing it. I have a monitor that supports 720p, but it will not display the Xbox VGA correctly. Although a transcoder would work a lot better, it was a lot cheaper to make a cable and it was kind of fun.
I actually want to do this project where I would make my own VGA transcoder that would convert Component to VGA much like the V-Digi does. It looks challenging so I would love to try making it. Plus, I could use it on XBL, so that would be great. Anyway, HERE is the link to the XS forum topic, and my post has a link to an old, translated schematic. I have asked if anybody has an updated schematic or perhaps clearer (English) instructions.
Post by: DDz on April 07, 2007, 05:55:00 AM
Some backround info:
- I want to use my Xbox with my 19" 16:10 Viewsonic VA1912w-v2.
- I have v1.0 PAL XBOX with Conexant videoencoder, Kernel 4034 and Dash 5960.
- I have Krayzies Softmod 1.1.1 installed with dualboot (like the quide said)
- I am using standard RGB cable with 3RCA (1xcomposite video and 2xaudio)
- When I start Xbox from powerbutton, all works as should. Just love XBMC!
- When I start Xbox with tray open, Xbox loads the ind 5001 bios, goes to EvoX and looks pink/green.
- When I choose MSDash from there, screen goes unreadable ("Green fast moving small boxes tilt") ;P
This is with the standard av cable.
When using the SOG VGA cable I Get:
- Start from Powerbutton = NO IMAGE, go to MSDASH = NOIMAGE
- Trayopen start = NO IMAGE, go to MSDASH = NOIMAGE
- I now have ordered the LM1881 Video sync separator
And on with THE QUESTIONS:
- When I get no picture with SOG VGA-cable, does that mean my monitor does NOT support SOG?
- Will VGA output work with softmodded PAL Xbox?
- Do I have to change videomode to NTSC? How?
- Can I change the videomode to NTSC / 480p without flashing the real BIOS?
- Can the videomode be selected between PAL / NTSC only with the AV cable modeselect grounding?
- I think I have done quite well since I am this far, but what should I do next?
Post by: DDz on April 07, 2007, 08:58:00 AM
I have managed to change the REAL eeprom from PAL to NTSC with enigma.
Still no image comes from the SOG VGA-cable..
- When I get no picture with SOG VGA-cable, does that mean my monitor does NOT support SOG?
- Can the videomode be selected between PAL / NTSC only with the AV cable modeselect grounding?
- I think I have done quite well since I am this far, but what should I do next?
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Post by: DDz on April 07, 2007, 11:08:00 AM
-The Xbox Recognising the cable as HDTV cable.
-A readable B/W video feed from luminance out.
Which I used to start XBMC where on system info, I can see what type of cable I have..
After that I restarted Xbox, Went to M$Dash and set the following video settings:
Normal, 480p=YES, 720p/1080i=NO Then went back to mainmenu in M$Dash, restarted Xbox....
Now I get only black/White Flickering screen where I canNOT see any menus etc from luminance..
The Luminance lead is also the Green Component video out in HDTV mode..
So Now I just need to wait for the video sync separator to arrive? The LM1881 that is.. ???
Should the TFT Display show something even if it does NOT support sync on green???
Thanks.
Post by: mcbeat on April 08, 2007, 08:19:00 PM
i'v got a vga cable like the one you metion
http://www.pcconnect...SourceID=k22350
i'v cut off the end to get the wires and solder them onto the AVIP
i opened the AVIP not the vga connecter , my question is how do i knw what wires to solder where?
the reason i say this, i cant see the pins on the vga cable
there inside the cable its just the wires exposed on the other end of the cable
but the tut shows this as VGA---->AVIP, thats not what i can do
im going from vga---->other end of vga cut off---> inside avip
so i just got a bunch of wires from a vga cable(other end) i dont have a clue which wires are from what vga pins
thanks
will try post a pic 2mro
Post by: brilliantdonkey on April 11, 2007, 04:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Textbook @ Mar 15 2006, 11:33 AM)
You will have to set it manually to 480p, one way or another. Easiest way is to plug in your VGA cable hooked up to your monitor and boot to the MS Dash. You won't see anything, but you can temporarily enable 480p with the button pad combo.
This will temporarily enable 480p and you should then be able to at least see the MS Dash. When you can see it, go to the Video settings and set the 480p to enabled so that it will stay enabled until you want to change it back again.
Is there any equivalent for this for XBMC? I'm having the same problem with not seeing anything if I plug in my VGA cable, and if I use my regular composite cables, I can't set the HD mode in the MS Dash.
Anyway, great tut.
Post by: brilliantdonkey on April 14, 2007, 02:05:00 PM
I'm using an LM1881N, too.