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Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on July 18, 2005, 02:49:00 PM
http://antibeat.host.sk/vgaguide/

It took me a while to find various information about vga mods here.  people were very helpful, but the tutorials were slightly old and some of the diagrams confusing.  also, i only knew about hex editing after stumbling upon it.

To make it easier for someone to get into making a VGA mod to play xbox games on their PC monitors, i've brought together much of this information from the xs forums.  I made my own diagrams i thought were more clear, and tried to make it all as simple as possible.  Although i tried to keep it simple, i wanted to introduce someone with no information to the terms assosiated with doing the mod so that they could easily search this forum for relevant information.

Includes:
-HD vs s-video comparison with screenshots
-Guide with diagrams on wiring a vga cable
-Quick guide to hex editing the MS Dashboard and other non-HD games to work in 480p
-A list of games with the green-tint problem

This post has been edited by xboxgamer733: Apr 6 2007, 06:20 AM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: EverestX on July 18, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
Hey man this is awsome, thanks I have been waiting fora decently drawn diagram for a bit.  Appreiciate it..
-EvX-
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: dethbox on July 18, 2005, 10:34:00 PM
Splinter Cell (the first one) also does the green wash. I wonder why these games in particular all do this?!
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on July 19, 2005, 06:39:00 AM
Yeah, i'd assume that maybe the programers wanted to use some type of special commands to the video processor, and when they sent them it over-rides the vga-bios.  I'm not too familiar with how all of this works, but it seems that its definitely something paticular groups choose to use since KOTOR and Jade Empire were made by the same people on probably the same engine, and the Splinter Cells were probably on the same engine.

do people have this problem with SOG monitors?  also, does anyone know if the x2vga+ has this, i heard its better and maybe the LM1881 is just a crappy sync seperator and these games throw out a weird sync signal.

I was also wondering why the x2vga people even made the 480i Easyview mode.  They say its for displaying the MS Dashboard, but you could just as easily hold both triggers and hit both thumbsticks and display the whole image on the screen in 480p.  Or is it because they wanted to give people a chance to initially enable HD on their xboxs?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: dr_oldschool on July 19, 2005, 08:00:00 AM
QUOTE(dethbox @ Jul 19 2005, 07:45 AM)
Splinter Cell (the first one) also does the green wash. I wonder why these games in particular all do this?!
*


There are instances when video mode is switched without resetting gpu. In these cases code that sets gpu output to RGB is not called hence it's outputting YCbCr.

Also see my sig for thread with my nkpatcher vga code.
It can patch the retail bios on the fly with vga support and also auto patch 480i only games/applications to output progressive video i.e. no hex patching. It does things a bit differently than all VGA bioses - iND, JunkMonkey, etc that basically use the same Pixel8 vga code.
I have never had any green tint issues with my code in games including Jade Empire and Spliter Cell series.
Of course this is on my 1.4 focus chip, but theoretically it should run even on 1.6 xcalibur boxes.
Only not much people seem to be interested in trying this...
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: grimlock on July 19, 2005, 07:34:00 AM
First of all, kudos for compiling the info.
Second, maybe you should post it here, as a seperate tutorial.

And now for a question: The photos you have comparing S-video to VGA are taken on the same display?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: dethbox on July 19, 2005, 10:37:00 AM
My monitor is SOG and gives me the green problem on all the games listed.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on July 19, 2005, 12:36:00 PM
QUOTE
Second, maybe you should post it here, as a seperate tutorial.


I cant post the pics here since i dont have a host that supports hot-linking.

QUOTE
The photos you have comparing S-video to VGA are taken on the same display?


Yes, they are all taken with a nikon digital camera set up on a tripod.  The actual image is produced from my 800x600 digital projector (epson 51c).  The images were taken one after another so lighting and everything was the same.  All of the digital photos were then corrected for contrast using photoshops autolevel feature.  Its hard to take a picture of a computer monitor as you might know, and the results were similar to what i've experienced on my PC monitor, however in reality, HD looks a little better and s-video through the upconverter that i had looks a little worse.  actually a lot worse, it had discoloration and other artifacts.

QUOTE
Only not much people seem to be interested in trying this...


I'm checking this out right now.  As i said, when i see things like nkpatcher, i dont connect it to vga, so i never knew about this.  I'll have to try it out.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: spinr34 on July 19, 2005, 01:32:00 PM
very nice, i was about to buy another Vdigi box but now seeing this, i think i'll just make it smile.gif
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on July 19, 2005, 01:46:00 PM
to dr_oldschool

i sent you a PM asking about your method.  I couldn't find any precompiled files at the usual places.  If it would be possible for you to put one up somehow for all of us windows people, that would be great.  If not, as i said in my pm, any help would be apreciated.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: dr_oldschool on July 20, 2005, 05:46:00 AM
Added precompiled binary. See here.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: --DANNY-- on July 20, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
QUOTE
A version 1.0-1.3 xbox with a modchip or similar mod

Why is a v1.0-1.3 xbox required? Why wouldn't this cable work for a v1.6 xbox?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on July 20, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
The version 1.0-1.3 work with a conexant (sp?) video processor.  I think its 1.0 to 1.3.  This means that the ind-bios 5001-vga code is specific to this processor.  I've heard that other xbox's might work, but supposedly these ones are the only supported xbox types.

if anyone else has any info that would be great, i have only a version 1.0 xbox, so i cant test any of this info.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: --DANNY-- on July 20, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
So it's not the cable that wouldn't work, it's the BIOS, right?

So is there any VGA compatible bios that supports the Xcalibur video encoder?

Thanks,
-Danny
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on July 20, 2005, 04:54:00 PM
i'm not really sure, but the ones i know of, pixel8, TATX, and the ind-bios shouldn't work, although you could try them.

I've posted a request for someone to incorperate dr oldschools code into a bios since its supposedly better than the ind-bios, so if this is done it might support your xbox, but then i'm not sure about that either.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Jameson42 on July 20, 2005, 05:47:00 PM
I believe PiXeL8 and TATX VGA bioses work only with 1.0 and 1.1.  iND-BiOS VGA works up to 1.5. (both focus and conexant, but not xcalibur)
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: scabbsss jr on July 20, 2005, 06:52:00 PM
WOW i been wantin to do this for a while. a great tut dude.

i wanna do it and put it in my car with my 17inch flat screen monitor for road trips
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: HSDEMONZ on August 03, 2005, 06:30:00 AM
One of the mods for this areas should add this topic to a list of guides/tuts/resources for this forum. In the meantime, It's pinned directly.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on August 03, 2005, 07:40:00 AM
cool, another bad game (green tint) is Brothers in Arms.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on August 09, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
I cant update the guide right now, but i'd like to add a part about PAL users.  Also For enabling 480p blindly.


If you have a PAL xbox, you'll need to switch your xbox to NTSC by using a mod chip or enigmas video mode switcher.  Note, I DO NOT HAVE A PAL XBOX so i take no responsability for things going wrong.  I have not tried any of this switching, but others have tried these methods.  PAL xbox's have HD modes disabled, and you can only enable them with NTSC xbox's.


Once you do that, or even if you have a NTSC xbox, you'll need to enable 480p.  To do this without having another component cable, you'll need to hook up your VGA adapter, then enable the 480p blindly as follows:

When at the MS dashboard do this:
Down 5 times, Hit A
Down 3 times, Hit A
Down 1 time, Hit A
Left 1 time, Hit A
Hit B 3 times to go back to main menu.
Reboot

After you do this, you should be able to connect the cable to the PC monitor and it should work great.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Boba_Fett on August 28, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
Does anyone know how much of a difference there is (if any) between using VGA and component?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on August 28, 2005, 02:50:00 PM
if your outputting in HD the difference between componenet mode and vga mode is that VGA mode is always 640x480 or 480p, while component mode can handle 720p and 1080i.  I think component mode is better, and have heard its more compatable.  I dont know why you'd use VGA mode.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Boba_Fett on August 28, 2005, 08:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Boba_Fett @ Aug 28 2005, 08:23 PM)
Does anyone know how much of a difference there is (if any) between using VGA and component?
*



That's what I was thinking. Someone was trying to tell me the other day that 480p (what the vast majority of xbox games use for above standard resolution) looks better through VGA than component. Guess not :x
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: grimlock on August 29, 2005, 09:24:00 AM
Forgive my lack of patience to explain thoroughly, since I have done so in the innumerable other topics that asked the same question  :P
Primarily the quality of the image depends on your display device (monitor, projector, etc). The specifications for YPbPr (progressive component signal) and RGB (VGA-like) are not so different to  justify significant differences.
However a specific  projector could output a better image with RBG input, while another with YPbPr...

Also (IIRC), YPbPr has a marginally larger  theoretical colorspace, but it's useless for practical purposes.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Pandoriaantje on October 04, 2005, 11:49:00 AM
hey guys.

I already have a VGA mod but i used 74HC14 Hex inverting Schmitt trigger to 'buffer' the sync signals straight from the conexant chip (pin 35-36).

Now, i was wondering if one would be better then the other.
Since using the 74HC14 you get the signals straight from the chip, but when using the LM1881 they are extracted/sepperated right?

*edit*
Here's the diagram: http://members.lycos.nl/pandoriaantje/file...itung_07_12.pdf (page 8)

This post has been edited by Pandoriaantje: Oct 4 2005, 06:51 PM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: grimlock on October 04, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
Actually, one could be more or less the same as the other. Let me explain myself:
1. The LM1881 is 10x more expensive ($1.5 compared to $0.15) -kidding  :P
2. The 74HC14 maybe a "cleaner" solution, but I am worried that there could be timing issues -the sync signal could be faster or slower than the video signal, due to the buffer. Also, is somewhat more difficult to solder on so small pins...
3. What about focus video encoders? (only saw conexant there)

All in all, this pdf is an inspired resource, worthy of mention. I would recommend trying out the buffer solution if you're up for it -you certainly have nothing to lose.  :beer:
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Pandoriaantje on October 05, 2005, 08:14:00 AM
QUOTE(grimlock @ Oct 4 2005, 09:14 PM)
...
 I would recommend trying out the buffer solution if you're up for it -you certainly have nothing to lose.  :beer:
*


I already did the mod some time ago. (back then i found a thread wich had alternative soldering points for the conexant, on this forum).

I just havent used it yet  :D
But since i'm going  to redo the whole output (I will be desoldering the original xbox connector and use a custom backplate) i was wondering if i should go with a LM or stick to the 74HC mod.

This post has been edited by Pandoriaantje: Oct 5 2005, 03:22 PM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Helios on October 09, 2005, 02:02:00 AM
Awesome. Just awesome. I can't wait to try it out!  :beer: thanks buddy
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Spectrobozo on October 25, 2005, 03:18:00 PM
http://antibeat.host.sk/vgaguide/
is not working here! sad.gif
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on October 25, 2005, 06:20:00 PM
works for me, try again, its a free hosting service.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: angerynewb on November 07, 2005, 09:41:00 PM
Can anyone tell me how I can create a fail proof vga, without playing around with bios or finding some sort of software on the web and is easy for a newb like me to follow? Pictures would be nice also ^_^.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on November 07, 2005, 10:33:00 PM
my guide has pictures.  It sounds like you're interested in buying one though.  no need to mess around with anything or do any thinking, just lay down that money.  go with the x2vga.  or vdigi or whatever.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: angerynewb on November 07, 2005, 10:51:00 PM
Buy one..... naw. I just don't want to deal with tampering with bios (have a bad past with flashing bios) and finding software on the web (unless you can point out the torrent). I just can't find it and I hate using anything that's not a simple click to download. Other than that, if it's just get a chip and solder then I'm ok with it.

BTW I ran into this: http://photobucket.com/albums/v205/xboxexp...Def_AV_Pack.gif
Will this do the job or is it flawed?


----edit--------
Just noticed something about bios. Do I have to tamper with it in this case?

This post has been edited by angerynewb: Nov 8 2005, 06:53 AM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: angerynewb on November 08, 2005, 10:37:00 PM
Anyone going to help? Whats "vga" BIOS? A chip I have to add or something I have to put into the xbox bios????
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on November 08, 2005, 11:18:00 PM
did you read through this thread, or the tutorial that it points to?

if you want to run a vga (to pc monitor) cable, you will need to solder together a circuit in a audio/video cable.

then you will need to install a vga bios on your modchip.  this outputs the video signal in the correct colors RGB.

dl the bios from the usual places, thats the only place to get it.

i should really just say to read, i'm not answering any more questions that are contained in the begining of this thread.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: angerynewb on November 09, 2005, 12:18:00 AM
Sorry, I was just looking for a way to bypass the bios modding (I realy have a bad time with them, almost killed my computer a few times)
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: angerynewb on November 09, 2005, 01:32:00 AM
Thanks for helping me get those files leeloo5.

BTW make sure to answer those PMs and is TATX_Debug_Dual_VGA_LameOne_beta trust worthy? I have 1.0 Should I go with that diagram I showed ya? :rolleyes:

This post has been edited by angerynewb: Nov 9 2005, 09:33 AM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Jameson42 on November 09, 2005, 11:12:00 AM
Use iND-BiOS 5001 VGA, the others aren't very good at all.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: angerynewb on November 09, 2005, 05:43:00 PM
Should I install it prior to the vga mod or will i screw up the current video mode. I not doing it anytime soon, but I'd like to have it installed early.

BTW: If I somehow screw it up, how to I go about recovering it. For my PC its a jumper change and floppy recovery. If the bios screws up what will happen. Also I've been hearing thing about some chips being """clones""'' and that they can't be flashed properly. I have a Duo X2. Or are clones not that big of a deal.

Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: angerynewb on November 09, 2005, 05:36:00 PM
sleep.gif......  hmmmm..  I only downloaded three files......  >>>Anyway is it considered more than one penalty if I try to reconnect.<<<< It took me some time to realize I was banned. This is first time to do this.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: ephesith on November 21, 2005, 12:02:00 PM
dry.gif

Radio Shack, nor the local computer store has them.  Can I use a larger resistor or will that screw things up?  I know NOTHING about circuitry.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on November 21, 2005, 10:50:00 PM
you could chain them together, or you could buy a ton on ebay for a total of about $3-$5 after shipping.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: deadparrot on December 01, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
So, does this only output in 480p?  What would I need to do to get it running at say, 1024x768?  Would a YPbPr adapter be what I'm looking for, or would this do the job?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: life-less on December 05, 2005, 03:20:00 PM
I believe your drawings of the plastic piece of the end of your scart are wrong/backwards... looking at mine from the top oriented the same direction as your drawings... my pins go from small to tall '|'|'|'|'|'|
so are the schematics still the same, or are they backwards too???

please help.... thank you

This post has been edited by life-less: Dec 5 2005, 11:22 PM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: X_Gamer7 on December 31, 2005, 12:16:00 PM
life-less, yes they are wrong.  Go by the numbers, not the drawing.  In the meantime, leeloo5, you should change the drawings so there is no future confusion.  The xbox scart cable pins should be flipped around.  As life-less said, the first one is small, then the second is tall.  You have the drawings showing tall then small.  Good tutorial though.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on January 01, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
I think i understand the problem.

1.  I live in the US, and we don't use SCART from what i understand.  I looked on the internet, and SCART is nothing i've ever seen before, it doesn't look like anything i see on the xbox either.  The xbox in the US might have this, but if it does, it looks very different.

2.  Since my connections look nothing like this, i'm not going to try and figure out this mess, if other people want to, feel free.

3.  I made these drawings with the cable in front of me and i'm pretty sure that's what mine looked like, maybe they make them different ways, it shouldn't really matter.

therefore, this guide should work for people who live in the US.  as far as the cable goes, who knows, maybe they made a totally different system for those in the UK or wherever this SCART business is used.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: goldstar0011 on January 26, 2006, 08:54:00 AM
SCART is a european connection IIRC

Anyways,
If I make this cable but want to be able to choose to use TV or monitor, my DuoX2 has 2 banks, I flash one normally and another with the the VGA bios?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: NHJ on February 03, 2006, 02:57:00 PM
hello, the link with the vga guide is down, can someone post a mirror please?

thanks
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Chad N. on March 11, 2006, 08:51:00 AM
As many of you that have used a X2VGA or Vdigi may have noticed, games played on a monitor look darker than on a TV.  Is this true for this VGA mod as well?  If not, what video chip do you have in your Xbox?

On the Xbox 360, the VGA cable displays games "lighter" than with the component cables.

By darker, I am refering to something known as crushed blacks in the video world, where details in dark areas are lost.

Here is an example:
click thumbnail to view full size

IPB Image
original image (as it looks on a television)

IPB Image
same image with crushed blacks (as it looks on a PC monitor)
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on March 15, 2006, 01:43:00 PM
1.  Try the link again, it worked for me a second ago, try copying it into the address bar.

2.  There will always be the green tint for those games unless you use the softmod version which supposedly fixes the problem (i dont have a softmod so i dont know), I think for some people HD mode doesn't work so they use VGA mode, I don't and never have so dont know how that works.

3.  if a monitor can support 720p it will be fine.  Here are my various experiences (never cropping).  one monitor displayed fine, awesome!!!!, one monitor wouldn't display at all, flickering in and out or not at all.  The other will display fine but tear the very top of the image in a weird way, so I just used 480p.

4.  My games dont seem darker, I have an xbox v1.0.  You could adjust the contrast / brightness i suppose.  I also noticed that many computer monitors wont display bright enough in general, maybe that's your problem.

Hope all of these answers help, I haven't been to the board in a while.

note:  its funny, I dont like any of the non-working green tint games except KOTOR and Jade Empire, but i've already beaten both a couple times.  its as if they dont want me to play them.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Mooner2 on April 11, 2006, 07:44:00 PM
Great tut leeloo5, worked fantastic. Yet I have one problem that is making me angry. I have enabled 480 auto on the m$ dash via the hex code edit and if m$ dash works in 480, unleashx is supposed to work in 480 to but it won't let me change it. Any hints from anybody that has got unleashx to work?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: africamagical on April 18, 2006, 12:39:00 AM
ok, ive double and triple checked my wiring, and i can only get audio and no video through my monitor, anybody have any trouble shooting ideas?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on April 30, 2006, 11:12:00 PM
try another monitor.  not all work, especially lcds.  You could also try turning the xbox on and then plugging in your monitor.  sometimes this works better.

unleash x:  no idea.  If you want to use this as a perminant solution and you like unleash x, i dont know what to do.  if you just want it for certain situations, you could use XBMC those times.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: timo1023 on June 13, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
Can someone tell me why this won't work on a v1.6b? Also, this mod can't go up to 720p?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: No.1 G on June 20, 2006, 12:53:00 PM
Which 0.1uf capacitors shall i get? For use with the LM1881 chip, should it be the Ceramic Disc capacitors? If so what voltage rating should it be?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: veeper on June 20, 2006, 06:30:00 PM
QUOTE(timo1023 @ Jun 13 2006, 05:53 PM) View Post

Can someone tell me why this won't work on a v1.6b? Also, this mod can't go up to 720p?


 pop.gif Please read rhough the whole thread!  pop.gif

Anyways, until now nobody figured out how to manipulate the gpu/ video encoder in order to output RGB instead of YCbCr. For the resolution, there is of course no limitation except for your monitor, assuming you are using a cable in HDTV-mode.
Maybe one day there is someone who can make a hack/bios which will output resolutions like 640x480 and 1080x720 or 960x720?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: No.1 G on June 25, 2006, 01:31:00 PM
All my games have a green tint but dashboard is normal etc, i got the correct bios but i must say the ind-5001 is buggy it doesnt pick up my g partition using .67 bios version.
Whats the problem?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: TheIrishLad on July 18, 2006, 10:02:00 AM
I have a 1.0 modded Xbox with a Xenium Ice.  I was wondering what at the moment is the best, most reliable, most games work, etc...VGA bios for use with the VGA cable.  So far I have seen pixel8, TATX, and the iND-BiOS 5001 bios.  Are there any newer ones, or better ones available?  I'm just looking to get the best wink.gif

Edit* And X2-5035 I saw somewhere was said to have worked.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on July 28, 2006, 07:21:00 AM
1.   I use the ind bios 06 since my Hard drive is 120gigs.  Sorry, but I can't help you with not picking up the G partition.

2.  I also have a 1.0 with Xenium ice and i use the Ind bios 5001 vga patched 06.  

3.  Any capacitors should work, but i'm not perfectly sure about that.  I picked some standard ones up from Radioshack.  the cheap ones should be fine, but more expensive ones just allow for higher voltages (which should not occur anyway).

4.  I don't know why your games would be green and your dash fine.  Unless your games are on the non-working list, there should be no problem.  for example Halo 1 and Halo 2 work great for me.  

5.  For any display problems, it might be good to unplug the monitor cable and replug it in after the game / dash has loaded.  this way the monitor is recieving a steady signal that doesn't change around.  some monitors are pretty picky.

Note:  I'm only someone who sifted through many tutorials I felt were vague and unclear.  I only have one setup, a US xbox 1.0 with a Xenium Ice and I can only test so many monitors.  I wrote the guide to give people another perspective with what i think are clearer images.  I'm sorry if I can't solve your problems, I hope you guys understand and good luck.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: notonxbox on July 30, 2006, 07:28:00 AM
Been trying to find an answer on something......

I'm assured I'm getting the best pic I can with my setup. hd pack with the components to a component - vga cable. high res options enabled using enigma. I can see an improvement when I use a 720p game.

So my question is - why make the vga mod? Is the mod cheaper? Or does it give you something that my setup won't? Will something like x2vga give me anything i don't have now?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on August 08, 2006, 08:37:00 AM
you have SoG (sync on green).... YAY.  so no, you can use your setup fine, no difference.  I dont have any monitors with SoG, so i need to incorperate a sync splitter circuit.  Only benefit to x2vga is that you can play some games like Jade Empire without the green tint.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Textbook on August 08, 2006, 09:34:00 AM
QUOTE(leeloo5 @ Aug 8 2006, 10:44 AM) *

you have SoG (sync on green).... YAY.  so no, you can use your setup fine, no difference.  I dont have any monitors with SoG, so i need to incorperate a sync splitter circuit.  Only benefit to x2vga is that you can play some games like Jade Empire without the green tint.


I wouldn't say that's the only benefit.  I think there are a couple other major benefits of the X2VGA.  First, it doesn't need a hacked BIOS so that means you can still play on Live / unmodded just fine.  I think another advantage it has is the great 720p, 1080i support.  Many (not all) monitors will give a purple tint with homemade cables and a VGA BIOS.

This post has been edited by Textbook: Aug 8 2006, 04:35 PM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: jippie on August 28, 2006, 10:31:00 AM
I'm going to feel stupid but anyway.....

Can someone tell me how to make a SOG cable without the LM1881 chip??
I really did look though this guide but saw nothing on just a cable!!!


EDIT...

found what I needed here
http://www.360mods.net/News/article/sid=32.html

sorry again.

jippie

This post has been edited by jippie: Aug 28 2006, 05:35 PM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on August 28, 2006, 11:22:00 AM
Scroll to the bottom of that page and click on 'My monitor supports sync on green', and follow the prompts.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: drukenslob on October 26, 2006, 01:37:00 PM
Hey,

Im trying todo the vga mod but I find the information scattered and sometimes un-useful


I did this diagram:
(IMG:http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/drukenslob/vgapinout.jpg)

Along with this tutorial
http://www.360mods.net/News/article/sid=37.html


It should make the mod easier and less of a pain.


Please feel free to use, distribute in your tutorials, post etc


Feel free to comment on the above, thanks.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: rogerlike on October 31, 2006, 10:57:00 AM
I'm not sure where this info belongs so I'm sorry if it's OT... The new Splinter Cell: Double Agent resets the GPU properly so unlike previous Splinter Cell games (1 2 and 3 all have the green problem) the colours are all fine with the VGA bios and cable hack. Good news for stealth co-op fans who run system link off a couple of xboxes... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by rogerlike: Oct 31 2006, 07:07 PM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: rogerlike on October 31, 2006, 03:41:00 PM
I'm sorry, I was wrong about that... :/
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: circusmonki on November 24, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
QUOTE
So my question is - why make the vga mod? Is the mod cheaper? Or does it give you something that my setup won't? Will something like x2vga give me anything i don't have now?


My complete cable with the sync splitter cost around AU$13. The annoying thing is the LM1881N cost me AU$12 sad.gif. But some people rekon you can get the LM1881N for about $3 so that I think would make it a hell of a lot cheaper then your setup.

Also I would recommend the NKPatcher vga method even for people with chips. have your xbox activate the softmod when you switch the chip off i think tongue.gif

I wanna thank leeloo5 and especially FrostyTheSnowman for this perfect picture tongue.gif

IPB Image

XBMC in 720p on a 19" Polyview V396 lcd monitor. Just beautiful tongue.gif
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on November 25, 2006, 12:55:00 PM
VGA on the XBOX is just gorgeous, isn't it?

Now you know why i'm such a big supporter of VGA on the XBOX. biggrin.gif

Nice picture by the way.  happy.gif
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leeloo5 on December 05, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
QUOTE(drukenslob @ Oct 26 2006, 03:37 PM) View Post

Hey,

Im trying todo the vga mod but I find the information scattered and sometimes un-useful
I did this diagram:
....


Your VGA plug only has 14 pins wink.gif.  anyways, I like my diagram since it visually draws each pin to each pin.  color coded too, anyways as long as you get it working its all good.

QUOTE(circusmonki @ Nov 24 2006, 10:07 PM) View Post

thanks leeloo this cable works perfect. with the help of FrostyTheSnowman i was able to get the NKPatcher10-vga10 working (for softmods).
My complete cable with the sync splitter cost around AU$13. The annoying thing is the LM1881N cost me AU$12 sad.gif. But some people rekon you can get the LM1881N for about $3 so that I think would make it a hell of a lot cheaper then your setup.

Also I would recommend the NKPatcher vga method even for people with chips. have your xbox activate the softmod when you switch the chip off i think tongue.gif

I wanna thank leeloo5 and especially FrostyTheSnowman for this perfect picture tongue.gif

....
XBMC in 720p on a 19" Polyview V396 lcd monitor. Just beautiful tongue.gif


1.  Happy it works
2.  Prices all pretty much depend on ebay at the time for me, since that's where I got the parts, for me it was about $20 total.
3.  My modchip does not like softmoding plus I like being able to use the dashboard.  I know I can use UIX (which I setup for my friends softmods), but I like the MS dash for 480p enabling and just to have it.
4.  exams are often crappy.

edit: images removed
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: losman on December 07, 2006, 03:50:00 PM
I made my system thanks to everyone here. Here is a picture of my VGA cable:

(IMG:http://www.picantemedia.com/ebay/images/xbox8.jpg)

Unfortunately for me - I am selling my system:
System on eBay
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: joesnose on December 14, 2006, 07:36:00 PM
ok ive read the tread but didnt see an answer, if i use a vga bios can i still use my xbox on my telivision or is the bios purely vga?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: quickline on January 13, 2007, 01:36:00 PM
Thanks for the great tutorial.

I just have one question - I built the cable with all of the components (lm1881, capacitors, resistors) and it works fine on my 19" LCD, but I get a green tint on my 19" CRT - what does this mean?

Which supports SOG, which doesn't?

What can I do to fix it?


Thanks
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: beenieman4355 on March 12, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
Can this work with a soft modded XBox using AUto Installer Deluxe 3 and XBMC 2.01?

Are there any commercial product that use the LM1881.
I was thinking of desoldering it if it comes in a popular electronic I might have knocking around.

This post has been edited by beenieman4355: Mar 12 2007, 09:44 PM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: brilliantdonkey on April 02, 2007, 01:01:00 PM
You can order samples from the National Semiconductor website.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: bobsupercow on June 21, 2007, 05:15:00 PM
If anyone would be interested in building a cable for me for some extra $$$ drop me a PM.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: proverclocker on August 26, 2007, 07:29:00 AM

Hey guys,

after reading these interesting threads about the whole VGA thing, I just decided to build such a cable and try it by my own. So now after a long time of soldering its done, but I can't get no picture on one of my 3 screens except the flubber animation. I used the LM1881N and the other standart parts as in the guide...
The only way to get a picture is at the moment to switch the cable to standart VGA mode and after the flubber animation with a green tint its over...black screen. All other switch positions like HD or AV didn't work at all...
So please help me... I'm lost...

greetings from germany!

P.S. You are the best here, great work so far!
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on August 26, 2007, 02:38:00 PM
1. Switch your console over to NTSC (using Enigmah's NTSC-PAL Switcher)

2. Switch your mode setting on your VGA cable to HDTV (2+3 Mode)

3. Enable 480p in your Microsoft Dashboard using an HDTV cable (or blindly using your VGA cable...)

4. Boot your XBOX with a VGA BIOS and your VGA cable, and you're set.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: Essenar on August 28, 2007, 06:17:00 PM
Be nice if this said specifically which .1 cap and 680kO resistor to get.

There's 1/4 watt, 1 watt, etc etc and NO search doesn't come up with results on which is best.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: proverclocker on August 29, 2007, 07:49:00 AM
Hey there!

Thanks Frosty, my Pal xbox V 1.1 runs now properly at 2 of my 3 screens. You've done a very awesome work!
The only problem is with my IBM G74 screen. There are many dropouts (the screens goes blank very often). And the whole picture is very bright, when I have a picture (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). I can't even go to the screen settings menu because the picture goes blank when I try to do this. Could the resistor I used be the trigger of this failures? I took a 470kΩ resistor.

Thanks for the support!

Greetings from germany

Proverclocker

P.S. Sorry when my english is a bit strange (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Is it?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: lostboyz on November 12, 2007, 03:07:00 PM
I just got around to building one of these. Got some issues

I didnt have the exact componoents on hand, I used a 470kO and a 220kO in series for the 680k, and for the .1uF caps I used 2 .047uF in parallel. I think that part should be fine

I flashed my second bank on my duox2 with frostys x2 5035


Problem is i dont get anything on screen when i boot from either bios, on either of my monitors.

Do i have to enable 480p/720p/1080i before anything shows up? if so whats the easiest way to do so (I dont have a tv with component imputs around)
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: FrostyTheSnowman on November 12, 2007, 07:59:00 PM
My X2 5035 will actually boot into VGA on any XBOX v1.0-v1.5 regardless of whether or not the HDTV settings are on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) But you do need an HDTV cable to use it... no other mode setting will work at all with this BIOS except for HDTV (Mode 2+3). (no other cable of any kind will work with this BIOS)

What mode setting are you using on your cable? (some guides use Mode 1+3 which does not work with my X2 5035)

Follow this guide to build a cable that is compatible with my X2 5035:

 http://www.360mods.net/News/article/sid=32.html

This post has been edited by FrostyTheSnowman: Nov 13 2007, 04:01 AM
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: lostboyz on November 14, 2007, 12:07:00 AM
I followed a different guide before that i messed up the wiring (box was being turned on by plugging in the cable)

used the guide you pointed to, wired perfectly, but I suppose the 1881 may have been damaged (doubtful), but I will try some things

Is there a site that says whether my monitor is SOG or not?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: smoke_screen_uk on November 16, 2007, 01:29:00 PM
Here's a couple of links to pages that should help.

VGA Mod Tutorial on 360Mods.net

PS2-Linux Monitor Sync-on-Green Compatibility List
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: richards30004 on August 02, 2008, 08:59:00 PM
ok i got a question  i have a moniter that the vgs end that connects to the computer is a hd15 pin male and it is bad or lose wires in it  if i cut a end off of a old moniter that doesnt work can i splice the wires and it work and on the moniter cables there is a round thing about 3 to 5 inches away from the end  what is that and does it need to be there or not  i dont know if it is doing anything or just a straight throw thing
i would like to get this moniter working  so any help that i can get on this will hopefully help
thanks so much

QUOTE(leeloo5 @ Jul 18 2005, 05:25 PM) View Post

http://antibeat.host.sk/vgaguide/

It took me a while to find various information about vga mods here.  people were very helpful, but the tutorials were slightly old and some of the diagrams confusing.  also, i only knew about hex editing after stumbling upon it.

To make it easier for someone to get into making a VGA mod to play xbox games on their PC monitors, i've brought together much of this information from the xs forums.  I made my own diagrams i thought were more clear, and tried to make it all as simple as possible.  Although i tried to keep it simple, i wanted to introduce someone with no information to the terms assosiated with doing the mod so that they could easily search this forum for relevant information.

Includes:
-HD vs s-video comparison with screenshots
-Guide with diagrams on wiring a vga cable
-Quick guide to hex editing the MS Dashboard and other non-HD games to work in 480p
-A list of games with the green-tint problem

Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: ldotsfan on August 02, 2008, 09:08:00 PM
QUOTE(richards30004 @ Aug 3 2008, 11:35 AM) View Post

on the moniter cables there is a round thing about 3 to 5 inches away from the end  what is that and does it need to be there or not  i dont know if it is doing anything or just a straight throw thing

Ferrite core, http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ferrite_bead
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: jakejm79 on October 01, 2008, 08:57:00 AM
Do you know if your monitor supports Sync on Green (SOG, if you check the specs on the manufacturers website it should say). If it does then you shouldnt need anything other than a component to to VGA cable, if not you will have to build/buy one with the sync separator circuit. The other problem is some newer monitors dont like running at such a low resolution as 640x480 (480P) have you tried starting an app/setting your dash so it uses 720P and then plugging in the monitor and see if you get a picture in that mode?
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: obcd on September 18, 2009, 02:41:00 AM
It might help if you could tell us what region you live in.

For europe, there are 2 postorder companies specialised in electronic components. Farnell In One and RS components.

They work together with american companies doing the same thing. You can find the name of that company on their website.

In some cities, you have component shops that sell integrated circuits for repair purposes. A phonecall is usually all it takes to know if they can find that component for you.

regards.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: xoramos on September 18, 2009, 03:33:00 PM
Ah, sorry - I'm in New Zealand, I find it's really hard to get anything in this country due to our remoteness. >:-(

Aiight, I'll ring spam my local computer stores.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: swagerr on July 28, 2010, 11:53:00 PM
All are taken with a Nikon digital camera set up on a tripod. The actual image was produced with my 800x600 digital projector. The images were taken one after another, in the light and everything was the same. All digital photos are then adjusted for contrast with Photoshop Autolevel function.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: ldotsfan on August 01, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
The link in post #1 worked for me today.
Title: Complete VGA Mod Guide (Diagrams, Hex Edits)
Post by: leealden06 on September 15, 2010, 04:03:00 AM
Rock Band is a music video game developed by Harmonix Music Systems, published by MTV Games and Electronic Arts. All are taken with your Nikon digital camera on a tripod set up. The real image is produced by my digital projector 800x600. It may be true, is not the fact that digital signals are encoded in different ways and should be amended, and that these signals are scaled and address are displayed.