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Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: fahrenheit on June 20, 2005, 04:01:00 PM

Jade Empire is a region free title, highly unlikely that it does not support 60Hz NTSC.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: thehunter1320 on June 20, 2005, 04:03:00 PM

well then explain to me why it's skipping and isn't in color

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: tycho.467 on June 20, 2005, 04:12:00 PM

i have almost the same problem, except it's with the star wars episode 3 game... and it was $35 and it was PAL

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: benmandude on June 20, 2005, 09:38:00 PM

Same here i have a few PAL games. I really want to know how to convert the signal to NTSC.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: celinedrules on June 20, 2005, 10:08:00 PM

I have a softmodded Xbox (UXE w/ UnleashX). Every game I tried in PAL works just fine.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: benmandude on June 20, 2005, 10:50:00 PM

Well your tv must support PAL. Mine does not so im kind of stuck.

XBMC does not fix it.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: Darkshamo on June 20, 2005, 11:36:00 PM

You can always patch up the game. All you need to do is bring the image file to your pc, then patch, then bring it back to your xbox.

Just do a google search for a good region patcher, for xbox.


Also, since pal tvs have more tv lines then american tvs, you won't see the whole image on your tv. you can get it really close, using a good patcher, but not the whole thing.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: tycho.467 on June 21, 2005, 12:16:00 AM

good info... but help with finding a region patcher would be nice... can't find anything

thanks alot!

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: The Zep Man on June 21, 2005, 01:08:00 AM

As far as I know, PAL games shouldn't give much trouble on NTSC-machines. Better said; some games even work better on it. (60hz vs. 50hz)

Maybe someone can mod a BIOS so that the video encoder outputs NTSC50 (yes, this 'standard' does exist )?

[edit]
To kill some misfacts in this topic: when you play a PAL-game on an NTSC-machine, you will not miss any lines (the resolution will simply be different), so no loss of image. Also, if you use an NTSC-Xbox, it will NEVER output PAL unless you change the EEPROM. So your TV doesn't have to support PAL with an NTSC-box.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: xboxgamer733 on June 21, 2005, 02:30:00 AM

What dashboard are you using, thehunter1320? If you're using Evox, try running the game from another one, like UnleashX or even XBMC, and tell us what happens.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: benmandude on June 21, 2005, 10:22:00 AM

If my xbox does NOT put out PAL why is the image b&w, scrolling and distorted.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: total_ass on June 21, 2005, 02:22:00 PM

download xboxhdm and use a backup of your eeprom to unlock and rebuild your hard drive. also make sure in future you use nkpatcher with a virtual C partition and a virtual EEPROM to avoid screwing things up. if you haven't backed up your eeprom than that's your own fault and you'll have to hotswap.

as for the black and white, that is because it is outputting in a format your TV does no support, if you live in the US its most likely PAL.

the majority of games will play fine in the other video mode (NTSC to PAL and vice versa) but several games will only play in the video mode corresponding to the region it was developed for.

many dumbasses think enigmah will solve all their problems but it doesn't as its not a case of it not switching correctly, it is forceably switching to its native mode and the TV simply does not support it.

either acquire an NTSC copy of the game, get a TV that supports NTSC and PAL, or search for a Jade Empire region patch and get lucky  other than that nothing more can be done.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: total_ass on June 21, 2005, 03:00:00 PM

you can fix it without but you will have to hotswap your hard drive into your pc.

search the xbe exploits forum for daddyj's guide to hotswapping.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: benmandude on June 21, 2005, 09:49:00 PM

So there is no way to convert the game from PAL to NTSC.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: The Zep Man on June 21, 2005, 10:27:00 PM

QUOTE(benmandude @ Jun 21 2005, 06:33 PM)

If my xbox does NOT put out PAL why is the image b&w, scrolling and distorted.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: total_ass on June 22, 2005, 01:01:00 PM

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Jun 22 2005, 07:56 AM)

I am positive the game isn't the problem. It will come down to a software conflict. If you need to convince yourself, then get rid of your softmod and return the Xbox to stock NTSC and I guarantee the game will play fine.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: benmandude on June 22, 2005, 05:24:00 PM

Alright Zep Man heres my specs for you.

Xbox - v1.0
TV - Sony Trinitron/ USA
Mod - Xecuter 2.3b Lite+ w/ Evox M8 FC 06 Bios
Dash - Evox (Evox Auto-installer 2.6)
EEPROM - No changes i no of
Games - Conker: Live and Reloaded, NBA Street V3

There you go.

Title: Playing A Pal Game On A Modded Ntsc Machine
Post by: The Zep Man on June 22, 2005, 09:05:00 PM

QUOTE(benmandude @ Jun 23 2005, 01:35 AM)

Alright Zep Man heres my specs for you.