OG Xbox Forums => Hardware Forums => Xbox Audio/Video Technical => Topic started by: fLaPjAk on April 18, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
Title: Halo 2 Subwoofer
Post by: fLaPjAk on April 18, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
Same thing with me... NHL2005 however is the game at question.
It used to work, and all of a sudden, nothing...
If I turn the amp to Pro-Logic or something other than digital, it's fine.
Title: Halo 2 Subwoofer
Post by: richie579 on April 18, 2005, 12:29:00 PM
here's what bungie says:
Several angry audiophiles ask: Halo 2 does not send a signal to my subwoofer/LFE. What's up?
Here is the skinny. In Halo 1 we sent all signal through the LFE as well. After we shipped we realized that 99% of commercial decoders "redirect" the Front-Left and Front-Right signals to the subwoofer. So in effect in Halo 1 we doubled up on our bass unintentionally.
For Halo 2 we decided to do what commercial decoders are expecting and we use a 5 channel mix (four surround plus center) and count on the decoder to be set up properly to redirect the front speaker signal to the subwoofer. We intended on then utilizing the LFE at times (as we can send full 5.1 mixes through the audio chip) but time and disk space got in the way. You have not seen the last of the audio content for Halo 2 however...
This is a long winded way of saying that if your decoder is set up properly your subwoofer should be jumping. Mine is. =)
Title: Halo 2 Subwoofer
Post by: sholi on April 18, 2005, 04:14:00 PM
Thanx but iv sorted it out now. What i did was change the settings on my amp. I told it that my front speakers was small so instead of sending the base to the front two it now sends the base to the sub. Yeah!
Title: Halo 2 Subwoofer
Post by: YoMama1111 on April 19, 2005, 11:03:00 AM
If this was set up wrong on you amp I suggest taking out the manual and going through the initial setup procedure to make sure all your settings, such as crossover freq, etc., are correct for the best possible audio.
Title: Halo 2 Subwoofer
Post by: ChrisF on April 19, 2005, 09:29:00 PM
The issue is that Bungie is assuming that a properly setup 5.1 system doesn't include competent full range speakers for fronts. This is not 'proper' in any way or shape and this is why movies have a separate LFE channel - or maybe all the films and movies have it wrong and only Bungie has figured all this out. A reference or high quality system will absolutely have full range front speakers and someone who knows what they are doing will not set them to 'small' and funnel everything through the sub because there is an amount of directionality to base. Now there is obviously a large portion of people using satelites or bookshelves or smaller towers with their receivers compensating and set to small but that doesn't mean that's 'correct' or the way it should be. There is a big reason why we have 5.1 and not just 5 and it is not because receivers "expect 5 and not 5.1" or because "5 is the right way to do it". Hey Bungie - please learn what you are doing and don't make defacto compensation moves that kill an entire channel based solely on the assumption that everyone is running very limited fronts. Do it right (or at least follow what everyone else who does 5.1 sound does) and don't invent some BS rationalization.
Title: Halo 2 Subwoofer
Post by: Dolfhin on April 20, 2005, 07:11:00 AM
Bungie placed the game on a DVD9 so they shouldn't give me the ''not enough room'' bullshit because there was enough, more than enough and creating a LFE channel doesn't take to much time it's probably in the engine already.
They just rushed the game and couldn't finish this.
Title: Halo 2 Subwoofer
Post by: imthewa1rus on April 21, 2005, 10:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Dolfhin @ Apr 20 2005, 04:17 AM)
They just rushed the game and couldn't finish this.