Post by: Jer on December 31, 2004, 07:55:00 PM
Just wondering if I need to buy a $250 DVD players or if there's something that can be done to have the ol' box do it.
Thanks and sorry if this has been asked already.
Post by: WiFiSpy on December 31, 2004, 10:37:00 PM
Post by: Jer on January 01, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
QUOTE(Nathan561 @ Jan 1 2005, 04:52 PM)
At the moment its pretty buggy and doesnt support menu's and certain subtitles etc however they are working on a complete overhaul which is what i am waiting for instead of investing in a proper HDTV player 
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 02, 2005, 03:23:00 AM
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Avalaunch dashboard has it's own dvd player (codec) that upconverts to 720p and 1080i with menu support. It works great.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Perplexer on January 02, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
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It will be a happy day when XBMC has full DVD support!
Until then, I am using a $69.99 Norcent DP-501M player which upconverts to 1080i over component.
[Edit] Crap, just realized Buy.com doesn't stock this any more, and other sellers have them at $170-200. An eBay seller has got some at $75 buy-it-now... eBay link
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 02, 2005, 03:43:00 PM
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Hell guys, save yourself $100 or more and use avalaunch's dvd playback; like i said, it upconverts to 720p and 1080i.
I just wish there was an app that would upconvert xbox games to 720p.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 02, 2005, 07:39:00 PM
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Post by: Foe-hammer on January 02, 2005, 03:23:00 AM
Post by: Perplexer on January 02, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
Until then, I am using a $69.99 Norcent DP-501M player which upconverts to 1080i over component.
[Edit] Crap, just realized Buy.com doesn't stock this any more, and other sellers have them at $170-200. An eBay seller has got some at $75 buy-it-now... eBay link
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 02, 2005, 03:43:00 PM
I just wish there was an app that would upconvert xbox games to 720p.
Post by: Jer on January 02, 2005, 07:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Jan 3 2005, 12:14 AM)
Hell guys, save yourself $100 or more and use avalaunch's dvd playback; like i said, it upconverts to 720p and 1080i.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 02, 2005, 11:07:00 PM
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The built in dvd playback is only in the latest two builds of avalaunch. Just go up to the disc icon image like you normally would when accessing a disc from avalaunch, but instead of it sending you to the ms dvd player, or dvdx2, an avalaunch logo appears which then sends you to the dvd player.
You have to enable the dvd player in setting, under main options, in ava.
To see if the movie is running in a higher res, just hit the display button on your remote, or white button i believe on the controller, and it will give you a bunch of settings. From there you will be able to check and it will tell you what res it is in. This is accessed when a movies is already in progress.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 11:14:00 AM
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Post by: Foe-hammer on January 02, 2005, 11:07:00 PM
You have to enable the dvd player in setting, under main options, in ava.
To see if the movie is running in a higher res, just hit the display button on your remote, or white button i believe on the controller, and it will give you a bunch of settings. From there you will be able to check and it will tell you what res it is in. This is accessed when a movies is already in progress.
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 11:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Jan 3 2005, 07:38 AM)
The built in dvd playback is only in the latest two builds of avalaunch. Just go up to the disc icon image like you normally would when accessing a disc from avalaunch, but instead of it sending you to the ms dvd player, or dvdx2, an avalaunch logo appears which then sends you to the dvd player.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Nathan561 on January 03, 2005, 03:34:00 PM
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Thanks alot Foe-Hammer, just tried playing some of my DVD's in 720p in Avalaunch. The quality admittedly is not as good as XMBC however with full support for subtitles and menu's it is a great substitute to crappy 480p (which looks horribly interlaced on a monitor) in DVDX.
Nice
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
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Okay, so I got it to work (I think, when I hit the white button and check it says 1920x1080 and right below that it says interlaced so I would assume this means it worked??) and have a few questions.
1) If it worked, will it still be anamorphic (black bars across the top and bottom)?
2) It looks slightly pixelated, is this due to being an upconverted source compared to an original 1080i source?
3) Has anyone had issues loading from certain DVDs? For instance, I kept trying this with Chronicles of Riddick and it would load the white background Avalaunch 'A' and then loop back to the main Avalaunch menu. I swapped out Napoleon Dynamite and it loaded fine and this time it had a black background Avalaunch 'A' and loaded the root menu of the DVD just fine. Once it gets to this point, I can eject Napoleon and put Riddick in and then it works fine. I also tested from the beginning with Borne Supremacy and it loaded fine as well. Seems as though Riddick will not load and I wonder how many others are like this. Is there a bug that can be worked out by editing some settings?
Thanks.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 03, 2005, 04:57:00 PM
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I recommend using 720p, and disabling 1080i in the avalaunch menu. IMO 720p looks better, and is less buggy then 1080i.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
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Post by: Nathan561 on January 03, 2005, 03:34:00 PM
Nice
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
1) If it worked, will it still be anamorphic (black bars across the top and bottom)?
2) It looks slightly pixelated, is this due to being an upconverted source compared to an original 1080i source?
3) Has anyone had issues loading from certain DVDs? For instance, I kept trying this with Chronicles of Riddick and it would load the white background Avalaunch 'A' and then loop back to the main Avalaunch menu. I swapped out Napoleon Dynamite and it loaded fine and this time it had a black background Avalaunch 'A' and loaded the root menu of the DVD just fine. Once it gets to this point, I can eject Napoleon and put Riddick in and then it works fine. I also tested from the beginning with Borne Supremacy and it loaded fine as well. Seems as though Riddick will not load and I wonder how many others are like this. Is there a bug that can be worked out by editing some settings?
Thanks.
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 03, 2005, 04:57:00 PM
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Jan 4 2005, 01:28 AM)
I recommend using 720p, and disabling 1080i in the avalaunch menu. IMO 720p looks better, and is less buggy then 1080i.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 05:53:00 PM
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Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 05:53:00 PM
QUOTE(FooLiP @ Jan 4 2005, 02:10 AM)
i think your best bet would be to experiement around to see what configuration gives you the best picture quality.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 06:19:00 PM
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Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 06:19:00 PM
QUOTE(FooLiP @ Jan 4 2005, 02:48 AM)
yeah i personally find that XBMC DVD playback is better for me than avalaunch.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 07:41:00 PM
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Post by: Jer on January 03, 2005, 07:41:00 PM
QUOTE(FooLiP @ Jan 4 2005, 03:00 AM)
actually if your TV likes 1080i signals, and upconverts 720p to 1080i then i would stick with 1080i output from the xbox.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: -FourDoor- on January 04, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
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I guess it's time to update Ava on my xbox and give it a shot at 720p and 1080i. But reading posts so far, it sounds like the PQ is lacking @ 720p and 1080i in ava's dvd playback.
Anyone else notice a lack of PQ between the a the 480p hacked ms dash dvd player vs ava's 720p/1080i dvd player?
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: FooLiP on January 05, 2005, 05:15:00 PM
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Post by: -FourDoor- on January 04, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
Anyone else notice a lack of PQ between the a the 480p hacked ms dash dvd player vs ava's 720p/1080i dvd player?
Post by: FooLiP on January 05, 2005, 05:15:00 PM
QUOTE(-FourDoor- @ Jan 5 2005, 01:34 AM)
I guess it's time to update Ava on my xbox and give it a shot at 720p and 1080i. But reading posts so far, it sounds like the PQ is lacking @ 720p and 1080i in ava's dvd playback.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: jkjk on January 06, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
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sounds like i need to try xbmc at 720p. thx
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Perplexer on January 08, 2005, 06:02:00 AM
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for the movies!
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 10, 2005, 02:23:00 PM
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Post by: jkjk on January 06, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
Post by: Perplexer on January 08, 2005, 06:02:00 AM
for the movies!
Post by: Jer on January 10, 2005, 02:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Perplexer @ Jan 8 2005, 02:33 PM)
As an update, thanks to Foe-hammer for the Avalaunch suggestion. I don't keep up with that dashboard and had no idea it upconverted to 1080i.
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Title: Dvd Playback 1080i Upconversion
Post by: Jer on January 11, 2005, 04:33:00 PM
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Post by: Jer on January 11, 2005, 04:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Jan 4 2005, 01:28 AM)
I recommend using 720p, and disabling 1080i in the avalaunch menu. IMO 720p looks better, and is less buggy then 1080i.