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Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: Dolfhin on December 09, 2004, 04:11:00 PM
Use XBMC that will allow you to upscale the video to a higher resolution.
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: Foe-hammer on December 09, 2004, 05:13:00 PM
Yes you have to have an xbox component cable or vga transcoder (a cable that will allow you to set up the higher res modes in the ms dash) to watch/play anything higher then 480i.

While xbmc 720p dvd playback looks great, it doesn't work with all dvd's (kind of buggy), and there is no menu screen (the movie will just auto start to play), which isn't that big of a deal.

Or, you could get the latest build of Avalaunch dashboard, which has a built in dvd player (codec) that allows 720p dvd playback.  It works flawlessly, and has menu support too.

EDIT: Also, 720p looks better then 1080i (720p gives a much cleaner, solid picture with less flickering then 1080i).
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: generalnewbie on December 09, 2004, 08:38:00 PM
how do i go about getting the Avalaunch to play DVDS that way?

i checked the XML file and my settings are like this

<audioplayer enabled="1" path="C:\xboxdash.xbe" />
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 <movieplayer enabled="1" path="E:\apps\dvdx2\default.xbe" />

should i change that to a 0 or something?
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: Shipitinshag on December 10, 2004, 08:01:00 AM
Is there somewhere in XMBC settings where I have to enable 720p? I can play soulcalibre II at 720p but my DVDs are still playing in 480p

I am using X2VGA+
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: parkerbender on December 10, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
yeah, how do you turn on the dvd player in avalaunch, i don't know how to either, thanks for the help,
    -parker
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: Foe-hammer on December 10, 2004, 04:25:00 PM
Only the most recent avalaunch has the new featured dvd player.  Just go into the menu settings under dvd, and enable it.  It's as simple as that.  There is no need to go into the .xml and set it.
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: jo77 on December 10, 2004, 06:41:00 PM
You are nearly there...

change "Use internal DVD movie player: disabled" to enabled,  no need to touch the xml file,  reboot and put a dvd in.

I find though that the chapter select etc. doesn't seem to work but it's no biggy.
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: generalnewbie on December 10, 2004, 07:48:00 PM
ok i did that.. and put in a DVD now i guess im using there DVD codec but....
what about selecting a higher playback IE 720P
if i press the black button i come up with
Audio Info Menu Settings
where would i change.. the playback settings...?

thanks
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: ntloser on December 11, 2004, 05:54:00 PM
QUOTE
what about selecting a higher playback IE 720P


 There are no seperate settings for the AVA DVD player. The DVD playback is upsampled to whatever resolution the  Avalaunch dash is using.

Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: DarkJedi664 on December 12, 2004, 02:16:00 PM
what about if it's in 1080i?  will the dvd player play at 1080i?
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: ntloser on December 12, 2004, 02:36:00 PM
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what about if it's in 1080i? will the dvd player play at 1080i?


I am not sure if Avalaunch has problems with displaying the dvd at 1080i. I know XBMC has issues displaying certain DVD at 1080i.

But why use 1080i ? I find that 720p looks better than 1080i. Although 720p has fewer lines it also has the advantages of progressive scanning and a constant vertical resolution of 720 lines, making it better able to handle motion. 1080i has more scanning lines but suffers from interlaced scanning. 1080i is only displaying 540 lines lines at a time.

EDIT

http://alvyray.com/D...lTV/default.htm
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: ntloser on December 12, 2004, 03:02:00 PM


Well, try popping in a dvd while avalaunch is at 1080i then see what happens.



Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: DarkJedi664 on December 12, 2004, 03:15:00 PM
seems it's only 720p hmmm.
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: Shipitinshag on December 13, 2004, 02:40:00 AM
Yes but how do u get XMBC to output at 720p or 1080i?
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: rabbler on December 13, 2004, 03:21:00 PM
some tv's can't accept a 720p input for HD only 1080i
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: reznaur on December 13, 2004, 10:14:00 PM
Yeah, i have a Mitsubishi 65" HDTV which can only do 480p/1080i... very frustrating since there are only a few games that support 1080i, and the new Ava dash only supports up to 720p... Team Ava said they couldn't get the 1080i to work reliably enough to enable it in the release...
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: Shipitinshag on December 14, 2004, 12:16:00 AM
My plasma can def accept all three siganals... 480p 720p 1080i But in XMBC all I get for DVD playback is 480p.... I wish to enable 720p, I hear there is no point with 1080i as the XB has'nt the power to upscale it properly....
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: ntloser on December 14, 2004, 12:44:00 AM
Okay..I think I found a sure fireway to play DVDs at 1080i with the xbox. Using XBMC I disabled the FTP and the option for Internet Time Sync then rebooted directly to XBMC. I set the res to 1080i and tried playing A-v-P from the HD. Instead of locking up, I saw the LED go out, (which is good because I set XBMC to shut off LED when video is playing),  it started playing. Next, I tried The Incredibles from the DVD drive.... It worked too.

I am definitely going to get a RAM upgrade. I think the 1080i playback on XBMC is limited by the amount of free memory.

These pics are really big and I am too lazy to resize them so I am posting links insted of embedding them.

One
Two

NOTE-- The pictures are no so much to show the quality of playback as my monitor and camera suck. The pics are just to show  it  worked.

I am using the Dec 10th CVS build
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: generalnewbie on December 14, 2004, 01:06:00 PM
how can you tell you are watching a Movie on the xbox in a certain format?

will it tell you somewhere when it starts playing?

im using the Avalaunch method.. as i heard the 720P is the better way to go.
but where will it tell me what its playing at.. in the menu?

Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: YoMama1111 on December 14, 2004, 04:25:00 PM
What is the point anyway? A DVD is standard 720x480 resolution anyway. Anything above 480p and you're just upconverting.
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: thefilepirater on December 14, 2004, 04:56:00 PM
well...when you use dvdripped or dvdscr...from the internet, your not gonna get the full qaulity there ntloser
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: ntloser on December 14, 2004, 05:49:00 PM
QUOTE
well...when you use dvdripped or dvdscr...from the internet, your not gonna get the full qaulity there ntloser

Some screeners that have been ripped improperly or recompressed  can look like shit. That holds true for any DVD. However, the actual DVD screener is of the same quality as the retail copy.  

QUOTE
What is the point anyway? A DVD is standard 720x480 resolution anyway. Anything above 480p and you're just upconverting.

I agree but this thread isn't about upscaling vs native it is about acheiving higher than 480p DVD playback.
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: DarkJedi664 on December 14, 2004, 09:14:00 PM
w00t, the new avalaunch adds 1080i for DVD's!!!!!!  Thank YOU avalaunch!!!!
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: Codename_Falcon on September 12, 2005, 07:28:00 AM
QUOTE(DarkJedi664 @ Dec 15 2004, 12:25 AM)
w00t, the new avalaunch adds 1080i for DVD's!!!!!!  Thank YOU avalaunch!!!!
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: grimlock on September 12, 2005, 07:07:00 PM
QUOTE(generalnewbie @ Dec 10 2004, 01:16 AM)
i know the MS HDTV pack thats Component only allows up to 480 on DVD playback
Title: Anyway To Achieve Higher Then 480
Post by: deacon187 on September 13, 2005, 04:58:00 PM
i guess i need to check that auto update link in my avadash, i was about to HEX  my M$ dash to play 480p for movies but now i wont have to if ava can play them in 480p and 1080i, my tv doesnt support 720p user posted image