Post by: Gelantious on February 09, 2004, 10:25:00 PM
Atleast all the games I have played have DD sound.
Post by: colt .45 on February 10, 2004, 04:44:00 AM
Post by: d0tn3t on February 10, 2004, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: MThaG on February 10, 2004, 02:29:00 PM
Post by: Gelantious on February 11, 2004, 09:44:00 AM
They must have 5.1 sound. Otherwise MS wont accept the game.
I really hope that on xbox2 the games have to Widescreen support and 1080i support.
Post by: jm_007 on February 11, 2004, 02:49:00 PM
My nf7-s motherboard sends constant 5.1 to my A/V reciever - even when playing 2 channel stereo mp3's. They aren't 5.1 though are they
I remember playing at least 1 game that doesnt make any use of the center channel (so it would be 4.1), can't remember what it was called though.
Post by: scream360 on February 11, 2004, 04:50:00 PM
I work with Audio (Dolby Digital,DTS) all day long @ work so I am pretty familiar with what your saying.
Though the Games I did mention support true 5.1 Dolby Digital Audio.
Scream
Post by: jm_007 on February 11, 2004, 11:57:00 PM
Post by: mejifair on February 17, 2004, 07:28:00 AM
Erik
Post by: manasol on February 17, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| XboxTM video game system from MS will feature the new Dolby Interactive Content Encoder, a breakthrough technology that dynamically encodes multichannel audio into Dolby Digital 5.1. |
That means real time encoding.
Post by: jm_007 on February 17, 2004, 11:47:00 AM
Post by: jm_007 on February 17, 2004, 12:03:00 PM
2) think about it for a second. the xbox can upmix in real-time to 5.1 - thats all gravey. But wait - what if it's sending a 5.1 signal, but not actually sending any information for every speaker - like the center speaker for instance. The "5.1" signal is there, but no sound is actually sent.
Understand it yet?
if a game is TRUE 5.1 - the xbox just does its job and convertes into 5.1 DD. Nice and easy. But if the game isnt true 5.1, then the xbox can still convert, but wouldnt nessaserily use every channel unless told to.
Take my ABIt nf7-s motherboard. That has nvidia soundstorm - just like the xbox. It can upmix to 5.1 in realtime - just like the xbox. But when upmixing say, 2 channel content, it DOESNT use the center channel unless you specifically tell it to.
....Same thing with the xbox, im sure.
Post by: manasol on February 17, 2004, 12:09:00 PM
But as for every speaker my speakers work flawless. Each speaker has sound. The rear speakers play that like LFE or something where they don't have voice but background. Like every other dolby source.
Every speaker works. Also I have an 5.1 speaker set as well without, without Dolby Digital Decoder in it. It also plays all channels with sound as if it was in my dvd with a decoder in the dvd.
Post by: jm_007 on February 17, 2004, 12:12:00 PM
| QUOTE (manasol @ Feb 17 2004, 09:09 PM) |
| I can understand if you mean its not A dolby 5.1 signal sent but still 5.1. Or that specific sounds for each speaker are not there. But as for every speaker my speakers work flawless. Each speaker has sound. The rear speakers play that like LFE or something where they don't have voice but background. Like every other dolby source. Every speaker works. Also I have an 5.1 speaker set as well without, without Dolby Digital Decoder in it. It also plays all channels with sound as if it was in my dvd with a decoder in the dvd. |
none of that has anything to do with the xbox.
i have a full 6.1 setup and trust me when i say there are a few games that do NOT use every channel for effects, even though the xbox is sending 5.1.
Post by: manasol on February 17, 2004, 12:21:00 PM
I'd like to know which games I'd like to go indepth a little more.
I have a $30 gift card for renting games.
I think I can use it now.
Tell me the games please I'll give it a go.
Post by: lansalot on February 17, 2004, 01:56:00 PM
There are others, but I can't recall them right now.
GTAVC website recommends you set the sound to mono in your xbox to counter this - ha !
Post by: Mr Ed on February 17, 2004, 04:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (lansalot @ Feb 17 2004, 03:56 PM) |
| FWIW, I have noticed a few games that don't output some sounds over the digital link. An example that comes to mind is Grand Theft Auto Vice City, which will put the car sounds etc over the digital link, but not the music or speech. It remains in standard stereo at best to the TV. There are others, but I can't recall them right now. GTAVC website recommends you set the sound to mono in your xbox to counter this - ha ! |
Huh? I don't have that game but your saying I wouldn't hear music or speech on that game? My only audio connection is the optical digital one. I don't have any analog audio connections from my XBOX to my amp.
I highly doubt I wouldn't get any music or speech on that game.
Post by: manasol on February 19, 2004, 11:23:00 AM
My neck hurts from all the speaker listening.
It's strange but it works nicely for me.
Post by: soundwookie on February 20, 2004, 09:58:00 AM
If this were the case, that would explain why you are getting, essentially, the center
channel only from the TV.
I use only the optical connection, as that's all you (should) need. The Xbox has no idea what your specific setup is, that's left up to your decoder (ie, your amp/receiver). for instance, my receiver will detect if I unplug my center channel speaker, and re-route the center channel speaker to the mains automatically. If yours doesn't do it, then you certainly must be able to tell the receiver to do so.
Post by: Mr Ed on February 20, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
Post by: XLNC on February 21, 2004, 11:52:00 AM
I then encoded the sound files from the PC version to WAV format and then to the XBOX WAV format, after a whole day of encoding I FTP all the files.
I started up the game and the sound was great quality, encoded perfectly. I began the game with the intro video which shows Tommy coming from the Airport and drug deal which goes bad. I am usually closest to the right rear speaker and I definately heard the helicopter sounds as it was landing and made me think that how can the sound be in 5.1
Also when Tommy gets a phone call from Sonny, when he throws the phone down, I heard the bang on the right right rear speaker. Now I'm just wondering how sound files which were normal MP3 files from the PC version of vice city encoded to the xbox wav format turn out to be in 5.1 sound. Does the xbox encoder encode them in 5.1?
Post by: ideas_man69 on February 21, 2004, 11:15:00 PM
your amplifier will always show that the signal is 5.1, but if the game only is written with stereo sound, only the front 2 speakers will play any audio, the other 3 and the sub will stay silent, depending on your setup.
checkin out this link will show you what games have dobly digital sound.
cheers
Post by: Jimberfly on February 22, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
This may or may not help you...
Post by: irfan on February 24, 2004, 02:13:00 PM
Most of the time, the game supports ProLogic2, which uses 6 channels, but its not a true 5.1 signal.. as in the game does not have 5 tracks and a bass-line to send to each speaker...instead it gives 2 signals and the reciever decodes the rest.
If it supports DD5.1, check the back of the box and it will say so. You will see a diagram ... a square with dots at each corner and on on the top line.. that means its a real DD5.1 source. Dolby Digital can be prologic, proogic2, etc etc.
ProLogic2 is a popular choice since you only need 2 real channels. Your reciever can mix any 2 tracks and make it seem 5.1. heck, give it a mono (ONE channel) feed, and if you press the right buttons, the sound will come from all of the speakers. its a mono track, but its on 5.1 speakers.... big difference from a discrete 5.1 source.