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Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: laterz2u on March 20, 2004, 07:39:00 PM
Hi there i have a question about DVI? Well i was just wondering even if you did have a Tv with DVI compatiblility, then how are you supposed to hook that up to the Xbox? I'm just a little confused about this because I'm going to be buying a Plasma Tv soon!!!!
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: SigTom on March 20, 2004, 08:17:00 PM
You cant that Im aware of, we were talking about hooking up Cable/Satellite recievers, DVD players and computers.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: mattb on December 02, 2003, 07:36:00 AM
Just seeing if chasing down Comcast cable for a receiver with DVI is worth it. biggrin.gif
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: switzch on December 02, 2003, 08:35:00 AM
From what i read DVI isnt much better than component cables.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: xboxmodder4life on December 03, 2003, 11:58:00 AM
all i hear is that DVI has less interferance then component. And DVI is all digital. But the way i see it either way i'm getting 480p,720p,1080i or whatever other high def signal
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: Lt. DARRYL on December 03, 2003, 02:16:00 PM
DVI has no equal, it is superior to all other forms of video input/output.  It is all digital, unlike VGA, component, composite, etc., thus there is VERY little or no interference.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: SigTom on December 03, 2003, 03:41:00 PM
Im going to be using the DVI connection this week when I get my new TV (55" Mitshubishi HDTV).  My cable provider (BrightHoust formerly TimeWarner) has an HDTV cable box thats comes with component (RGB, RCA, S-Video) and DVI output.  From what I could tell from researching the TV Im getting is that it does in fact make a difference, as Polaris mentioned, the A/D D/A conversion when using component inputs does degrade the signal quality compared to a true Digital signal you would get thru a DVI connection.  Ive only really seen the DVI input on big screens, LCDs, and I believe Plasma TVs as well.  The smaller sets, under 36" that Ive researched (and to be honest, its not a whole hell of alot of them) come with RGB or lower quality inputs. I do have both the RGB and DVI cables for the big screen when it comes in this week, so I will definately take a look at the quality of both and let you know (at least one mans opinion) what I think of it.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: BlaCkAdDa on December 04, 2003, 06:20:00 PM
If your cable is anything like ours in Australia the cable signal is analogue anyway, so you are already losing quality before the signal gets to your box
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: Mr Ed on December 05, 2003, 06:31:00 AM
QUOTE (BlaCkAdDa @ Dec 4 2003, 08:20 PM)
If your cable is anything like ours in Australia the cable signal is analogue anyway, so you are already losing quality before the signal gets to your box

HD cable is digital.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: Lt. DARRYL on December 05, 2003, 08:28:00 AM
QUOTE (Mr Ed @ Dec 5 2003, 04:31 PM)
QUOTE (BlaCkAdDa @ Dec 4 2003, 08:20 PM)
If your cable is anything like ours in Australia the cable signal is analogue anyway, so you are already losing quality before the signal gets to your box

HD cable is digital.

Not always true Mr. Ed.  If you use component cables to attain HD, like with the Xbox video out, or dvd players, or HDTV tuner boxes, most of them use component out, which is an analog signal.  1080i and 720p are not digital signals unless they are attained using a DVI in/out cable.  Component is and always will be analog, which means interference. :-0
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: mattb on December 05, 2003, 06:07:00 PM
Has anyone ever battled Comcast cable for the HDTV receivers that are compatible with DVI? These options are only available with the Motorola DCT5100 and DCT6200.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: Mr Ed on December 05, 2003, 08:27:00 PM
QUOTE (Lt. DARRYL @ Dec 5 2003, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (Mr Ed @ Dec 5 2003, 04:31 PM)
QUOTE (BlaCkAdDa @ Dec 4 2003, 08:20 PM)
If your cable is anything like ours in Australia the cable signal is analogue anyway, so you are already losing quality before the signal gets to your box

HD cable is digital.

Not always true Mr. Ed.  If you use component cables to attain HD, like with the Xbox video out, or dvd players, or HDTV tuner boxes, most of them use component out, which is an analog signal.  1080i and 720p are not digital signals unless they are attained using a DVI in/out cable.  Component is and always will be analog, which means interference. :-0

Dude he was talking about to the house...not from the decoder.  Of course the decoder output is analog if you use an analog connection.

He was saying that cable up to the house in Australia was analog. I was saying that in the US, with a provider with HD service, they deliver digital cable to the house.  That's all.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: Mr Ed on December 05, 2003, 08:30:00 PM
QUOTE (mattb @ Dec 5 2003, 08:07 PM)
Has anyone ever battled Comcast cable for the HDTV receivers that are compatible with DVI? These options are only available with the Motorola DCT5100 and DCT6200.

I use Cox and haven't signed up for their pathetic HD service (yet...don't even own an HDTV...yet) but if there's a way, I'd fight for the DVI connection.

I know you were worried about using a DVI connection on your TV when you only have one, but I did some searching and found some DVI switch boxes, so don't let that stand in your way.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: mattb on December 06, 2003, 02:57:00 PM
Comcast is pretty good considering their HDTV receivers are $5 a month rental. They also offer all the local channels in digital plus INHD1and2, HBOHD, ShowHD, and ESPN HD. Well I guess i should wait for HD PPV. sad.gif
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: Mr Ed on December 06, 2003, 04:52:00 PM
The reason I hate Cox HD, is because they only offer 3 local channels in HD, even though there are 6 or 7 that are broadcasting some stuff in HD.  grr.gif  muhaha.gif
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: AceCon on December 07, 2003, 02:59:00 PM
i have a 57 in toshiba which has dvi. I have heard there is very little difference in the
picture. Im very happy with my picture using component cables and not about to buy a DVI
cable for $99-$110, its just not worth it for a change only some can see. Only way i will
use a DVI cable is when the cable price is cheaper. Their asking way to much for a cable that just transfers a signal from a device to the tv. They Smack you for money for TVs and
Resevers with DVI inputs and outputs and never mention you have to pay out of your ass for a cable that in no way costs that much. Its a huge rip off!! Just Another way they can make money off of the people who need new things first.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: gerzand on December 07, 2003, 03:38:00 PM
QUOTE (AceCon @ Dec 7 2003, 11:59 PM)
Im very happy with my picture using component cables and not about to buy a DVI
cable for $99-$110, its just not worth it for a change only some can see. Only way i will
use a DVI cable is when the cable price is cheaper. Their asking way to much for a cable that just transfers a signal from a device to the tv.

blink.gif  DVI cables can be cheap if you look in the right places! There are 15 feet cables for around $24.00 each + shipping on ebay!  biggrin.gif   Cheers!  beerchug.gif

LOOK AT EBAY AUCTION HERE!

Gerzand
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: Mr Ed on December 07, 2003, 09:02:00 PM
Dude I have more DVI components in my computer room that I have VGA components and I can tell you the cables are not very expensive.

Also, I hate to repeat things when I haven't seen them for myself, but I've been told the DVI makes a huge difference.  I did see one DVD player that used DVI (it unconverted to 1080i) and the difference between component and DVI was huge, but that still could've just been that the DVD player had better handling for DVI than component and that's the only test I've seen so I can't trust that the difference will always be that great for all components.  Still, I hate the signal loss I get from a VGA cable so I always go DVI whenever possible with my computers, and I will do the same whenever I buy that HDTV.
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: xbiker321 on December 08, 2003, 05:35:00 PM
biggrin.gif

My DVI cable cost me $15 at a PC Show in white plains NY, it was a pretty good deal. Now we do not have Comcast Digital Cable but I am looking into it...seeing if its worth the extra money. Comcast already kills us with the internet and basic cable prices. I wish we had Optimum Online speeds for the price we pay but there is nothing we can do  sad.gif
Title: Do You Use DVI For You TV?
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on December 08, 2003, 06:58:00 PM
I just use component